New Tory leader

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He actually got his name wrong on Have I Got News For You. When asked for his full name, he replied Boris Johnson, when of course it is Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson. Where he got 'de Pfeffel' from is anyone's guess.

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Yeah, I remember that.~:joker:

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Curoiusly enough, he is the great-grandson of the last interior minister of the Imperial Turkish government. I believe his great-grandfather was nailed to a tree, but I may be wrong.

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Really?~:confused:

Lancelot - not only are Labour red, but these terms have been part of the second most influencial socialist government in our history. Look from funding to society and it is done, in main, a red way.

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And considering your democratic tendencies, Im surprised you favour such a suck ass voting system...

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I don't, I support a form of proportional representation which also holds the historic, strong local bonds.

@Jag

But even you must admit they have moved so far right from what is really labour that a) its not even funny and b) they are not red anymore, more of a pinkish colour.. ~;)

And didnt they remove clause 4 of their manifesto, something about a pledge to common ownership?

I dont see you as much nowdays JAG, but I do enjoy reading your perspectives on things, even if I dont agree with half of it!

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Originally Posted by InsaneApache

er... Peter Mandelson (x2), Donald Dewar, Ron Davies, Geoffrey Robinson, Mike O'Brien, Keith Vaz, Stephen Byers, David Blunkett (x2), Beverley Hughes...and then there was the Bernie Ecclestone incident....oh yes as pure as the driven slush this bloody lot, no suggestion of impropriety at all.

Jeesh some people ...........~:joker:

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Any of them used rent boys, tried to get their children to lie in court for them...Do I need to go on? There's "impropriety" & being a criminal. Also none of them have been found dead in womens underwear with an orange shoved in their mouth.

wasn't Ron Davies' walk in the park epsiode about rentboys?

No comment...I just didn't take kindly to having the assumption made that I'm a labour supporter because I dislike the tories more.

In another post I clearly stated that all politicians should be exterminated & replaced by the landed gentry.

I think i will wate and see what polcies they come up with before i make a decision of water there any good or not.

throw with voter tern out of 30% or so do they have a right to do anything rely? as the majority did not put them there. i think people should all vote and it was applied to the last election we would get 60% or so of ballot papers counted as destroyed in the ballot box, i would like to see there faces if that happened that more people thought that no 1 was worth putting in power ehehe