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Originally Posted by Gelatinous Cube

That's like saying a murderer is to thank for his own capture, because he commited the crime in the first place.

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Nope it's to say that another murderer is to thank because he learned the police enough to catch this murderer. ~;p

Pointless right?

Do you know something else that I've find pointless? It's to even consider that a country owns your country for fighting a war, because it was an earlier alliance, when the stuff happened for more than 200 years ago.
It's to say that that country owes you because that you got involved in the same wars as the first one, because of thier own reasons (in WW1 because the Germans sank everything to Britain, even US passanger ships and in WW2 because of some Japanese bombings, thus dragged into it) and then comment things that have very little with reality to do (in WW1 did Germany declare war on France, because France was an ally to Russia, the French relationship with Serbia had nothing to do with it, the Russian relationship with Serbia however... And the losses (AKA people killed) in both WW:s for the US was about 600k, not even close to a million).

Sure, others have done it to in this thread and I still find it as pointless, but this one was commenting material.

So you're comin around, eh?

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Originally Posted by Ironside

Nope it's to say that another murderer is to thank because he learned the police enough to catch this murderer. ~;p

Pointless right?

Do you know something else that I've find pointless? It's to even consider that a country owns your country for fighting a war, because it was an earlier alliance, when the stuff happened for more than 200 years ago.
It's to say that that country owes you because that you got involved in the same wars as the first one, because of thier own reasons (in WW1 because the Germans sank everything to Britain, even US passanger ships and in WW2 because of some Japanese bombings, thus dragged into it) and then comment things that have very little with reality to do (in WW1 did Germany declare war on France, because France was an ally to Russia, the French relationship with Serbia had nothing to do with it, the Russian relationship with Serbia however... And the losses (AKA people killed) in both WW:s for the US was about 600k, not even close to a million).

Sure, others have done it to in this thread and I still find it as pointless, but this one was commenting material.

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I find it compulsively necessary to add that France suffered the largest percentage of population loss, of all the countries involved in World War 1... so, technically, I think we owe them on this one, for not getting involved earlier. ~;p

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Originally Posted by Xiahou

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My God............................

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Its full of stars? ~D

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(Oddly enough, I just saw another Kubrick movie, A Clockwork Orange... man, that guy needs to have his head examined... if he's still alive.)

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Originally Posted by Zorba

(Oddly enough, I just saw another Kubrick movie, A Clockwork Orange... man, that guy needs to have his head examined... if he's still alive.)

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He died from overexposure to Tom and Nichole. Sad business.

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Its full of stars?



(Oddly enough, I just saw another Kubrick movie, A Clockwork Orange... man, that guy needs to have his head examined... if he's still alive.)

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Actually being the pedant that I am, the quote 'It's full of stars' is from 2010 which was dirested by Peter Hyams. Kubrick directed 2001.:hide:

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Originally Posted by Lemurmania

He died from overexposure to Tom and Nichole. Sad business.

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LOL.

Oh and SPAM!

I concur...a spamicide if ever I saw one.

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Originally Posted by Just A Girl

Well all thats well and good.

But am i left or right?

"tree loving war opposing person"
never understood these Dumb pigeon hole things.

I THINK IM A LIBERAL CONSERVATIVE WHO SUPORTS GREEN PEACE AND VOTES PLAID CYMRU.

So whats this left n right c*ap?
which am i or does it only encasuplate americans?

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If you believe it's impossible to have freedom of choice if you have justice and equal rights, you're left wing

If you believe it's impossible to have equal rights and justice if you have freedom of choice and you like war, you're right wing

If none of that applies, if you believe a combination of freedom, equal rights, justice and peace is the way to go, you're all wings at the same time, i.e. common sense ~:)

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Originally Posted by LegioXXXUlpiaVictrix

If you believe it's impossible to have freedom of choice if you have justice and equal rights, you're left wing

If you believe it's impossible to have equal rights and justice if you have freedom of choice and you like war, you're right wing

If none of that applies, if you believe a combination of freedom, equal rights, justice and peace is the way to go, you're all wings at the same time, i.e. common sense ~:)

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Great,
Im none the wizer :)
I was closest to option 3

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Originally Posted by Just A Girl

I was closest to option 3

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welcome to the club ~:grouphug: ~:cheers: :balloon2:

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Originally Posted by LegioXXXUlpiaVictrix

If you believe it's impossible to have freedom of choice if you have justice and equal rights, you're left wing

If you believe it's impossible to have equal rights and justice if you have freedom of choice and you like war, you're right wing

If none of that applies, if you believe a combination of freedom, equal rights, justice and peace is the way to go, you're all wings at the same time, i.e. common sense ~:)

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That would make me all-wings, which I am definitely not... :thinking:

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Originally Posted by InsaneApache

Actually being the pedant that I am, the quote 'It's full of stars' is from 2010 which was dirested by Peter Hyams. Kubrick directed 2001.:hide:

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I could have sworn that line was in 2001... I know it was in 2010.

Well, I am about to watch 2001 anyway.

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I could have sworn that line was in 2001... I know it was in 2010.

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Just to keep the spam level high: I believe the "full of stars" line was in the Asimov book, but not in the film. Then they flogged it to death in 2010.

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Originally Posted by Lemurmania

Just to keep the spam level high: I believe the "full of stars" line was in the Asimov book, but not in the film. Then they flogged it to death in 2010.

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Dear o dear....Mr. Pedant is coming out to play again. Azimov although an excellent sci-fi authour was nothing to do with this story. 2001/10 comes from an Arthur C Clark short story in one of his anthologies, not Isaac Azimov. Dear o dear....~D

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"Behind every man now alive stand thirty ghosts, for that is the ratio by which the dead outnumber the living. Since the dawn of time, roughly a hundred billion human beings have walked the planet Earth.
--Now this is an interesting number, for by a curious coincidence there are approximately a hundred billion stars in our local universe, the Milky Way. So for every man who has ever lived, in this universe, there shines a star."

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http://www.clarkefoundation.org/

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Originally Posted by InsaneApache

Dear o dear....Mr. Pedant is coming out to play again. Azimov although an excellent sci-fi authour was nothing to do with this story. 2001/10 comes from an Arthur C Clark short story in one of his anthologies, not Isaac Azimov. Dear o dear....~D



http://www.clarkefoundation.org/

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That's right... I wonder if they will ever make 2061 and 3001? The story is long from finished with 2010.

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That would make me all-wings, which I am definitely not... :thinking:

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Well, officially both blocks want freedom, justice, equal rights and peace, don't they? ~D ~:joker:

Joking aside, the left right probably originates from the ancient Greek democracy, where conservatives sat to the right and those wanting renewal sat to the left. It's a quite old concept which IMO can't be applied well to modern politics, but despite that, modern politics is mostly built up around it... I think today both sides want almost the same things, but the main difference is the methods used to get there. The left wing has oddly lost the "freedom" part of "equalité fraternité liberté" lately, which means modern left wing is more of what I described jokingly above, than the last alternative I described above, but true socialism with it's original ideals, is also considered left besides including freedom, which is now considered not a part of the left wing, so you can be left wing if you're socialist, even though modern left wing in many countries unfortunately is more of what I described above and doesn't follow the bottom alternative, but uses the name socialists ~:confused: This confusion is one of the reasons I dislike the ordering of politics into left and right wings in this manner, but I'd probably say I prefer left wing personally, although the party in my own country is hard for me to like. Btw, environmental concerns are not considered parts of either left or right wing with the left right model... ~:handball:

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Originally Posted by InsaneApache

2001/10 comes from an Arthur C Clark short story in one of his anthologies, not Isaac Azimov. Dear o dear....~D

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Sorry, got my '50s and '60s prominent SF authors with Really Big Glasses mixed up. Mea maxima culpa.

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Originally Posted by Gelatinous Cube

If it wasn't for the USA, France would be flying the Hammer and Sickle right now.

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To be honest, I just wanted to see which American member would bite first there ~;p

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Originally Posted by Gelatinous Cube

Oh please. They wasted their opportunity to have America be greatful for that. They turned around and started attacking our shipping not a decade after the war ended! Since then, the only thing France has done, that involved the US in any way, the hasn't cost of money, or thousands of dead soldiers, was the Lousiana Purchase.

Bravo, France. You sold us a large chunk of land. You gave us a boost during the revolution. You also violated the very soveriegnty you helped to create not a decade after it had seen victory, got yourself into two World Wars (Hey, France didn't have to honor it's alliance with Serbia. In fact, why the hell would they? France wanted war just as much as Germany did.) that have cost the US easily in the neighborhood of a million lives, cost us more money than I am sure I will ever see in my lifetime, or would even be capable of spending in my lifetime if for some reason I had it all before me!

No, no my friend. When you put the chips down, France owes us. And big time.

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I personally think you're wrong. Even though they gave little help they gave help none the less. America had promiced to help France with a conflict with Britain. When they were fighting Britain later America decided to stay neutral. Smart, but very dishonorable.

I'd have to say it's old news now and neither we nor them owe any one anything, but we should have really lived up to a promice.

My two cents...

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Originally Posted by Brutus

If some primitive Homo Sapiens wouldn't have left Africa many thousands of years ago, you wouldn't be having this discussion anyway.

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And those illegits wiped out the entire Neanderthaler population! I want compensation for the Neanderthal genocide. ~:pissed: Oh, don't forget the Floresienses either. Poor hobbits... ~:mecry:
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Originally Posted by LegioXXXUlpiaVictrix

welcome to the club ~:grouphug: ~:cheers: :balloon2:

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I`ve been a member of this club all my life, and I prefer to call it centrum politics. ~:cheers: It takes the best from both sides and eliminate the bad.

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And those illegits wiped out the entire Neanderthaler population! I want compensation for the Neanderthal genocide. ~:pissed: Oh, don't forget the Floresienses either. Poor hobbits... ~:mecry:
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:laugh4: That was funny...

Speaking of which, come to the chatroom RIGHT NOW!