Re: BLIAR surrenders to federal Europe
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Originally Posted by InsaneApache
link?...or rhetoric?
Sad but true.
Once you produce one yourself you'd have some right to criticise the lack of links in others' posts; thus far, only Redleg has produced links in this particular thread.
Or do people only need to produce links if their opinions run contrary to your own? :san_undecided:
Re: BLIAR surrenders to federal Europe
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Originally Posted by Geoffrey S
Once you produce one yourself you'd have some right to criticise the lack of links in others' posts; thus far, only Redleg has produced links in this particular thread.
Or do people only need to produce links if their opinions run contrary to your own? :san_undecided:
I was questioning AII use of figures. We (UK) keep hearing of how much we get from the EU in trade and employment. I find it difficult to find any unbiased figures.
Re: BLIAR surrenders to federal Europe
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Originally Posted by InsaneApache
I was questioning AII use of figures. We (UK) keep hearing of how much we get from the EU in trade and employment. I find it difficult to find any unbiased figures.
If you mean the GDP, then we are indeed fourth by these figures:
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Re: BLIAR surrenders to federal Europe
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Originally Posted by ShadesWolf
A false economy created by idiots borrowing money they dont have to buy I-pods and stuff they dont wont or really need.
Free trade is a wonderful thing, shareholders take the risk and bosses implement policy.
These two statements contradict each other. You can't toast post industrial capitalism and free trade and at the same time rail against people doing tertiary jobs and buying junk.
Poor teachers and civil servants? Well no I haven't seen them barefoot in the market place rummaging around in the garbage. But I'm not sure why you would want such a thing. I have spoken to many who can't afford a house though.
What kind of salary do you think is suitable for a newly qualified teacher? What salary for one with 15 years experience and extra responsibilities?
The problem is SW is that you just come out with this crap but don't really have much to back it up or any useful suggestions about change.
Re: BLIAR surrenders to federal Europe
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Originally Posted by InsaneApache
Last I heard we were 4th in the world, but hey, if it don't fit your agenda, lets just 'massage' the facts.
Another lie from the lying liars on the left.
Swallow your bile. You're fifth from now on: http://money.cnn.com/2005/12/13/news...a.census.reut/
Re: BLIAR surrenders to federal Europe
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Originally Posted by Ldvs
Making France sixth :san_wink:
Re: BLIAR surrenders to federal Europe
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Originally Posted by InsaneApache
Last I heard we were 4th in the world, but hey, if it don't fit your agenda, lets just 'massage' the facts.
Rank does not speak to volume. United States GDP is $US 11.000 billion, Japan's is $US 5000 billion. China will soon overtake Japan. That is the top bracket.
Germany/Britain/France/Italy and some others are all in the $US 1000-2000 billion bracket. That is the medium bracket
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Originally Posted by InsaneApache
I was questioning AII use of figures.
No, you were calling me a liar.
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Originally Posted by InsaneApache
Another lie from the lying liars on the left.
See?
Keep this up and you will never convince anyone.
Re: BLIAR surrenders to federal Europe
This white flag stinks... Without any move from france on subsidies what possible thing do we gain by this?
Re: BLIAR surrenders to federal Europe
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Originally Posted by Marcellus
Making France sixth :san_wink:
It doesn't upset me much :san_tongue:
If Russia recovers from corruption and once India will have catched up we'll be booted out of the G7 anyway, so better be psychologically prepared :san_grin:
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Originally Posted by The_Emperor
This white flag stinks... Without any move from france on subsidies what possible thing do we gain by this?
Nothing.
Re: BLIAR surrenders to federal Europe
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Originally Posted by The_Emperor
This white flag stinks... Without any move from france on subsidies what possible thing do we gain by this?
Simple, by paying your dues you gain political credit and you make the single market stronger, which is a long-term gain.
Re: BLIAR surrenders to federal Europe
It does potentially give Britain a moral highground in future debates on the subject, as long as they still dispute the CAP; at least they can now say they did what was best for Europe in the longterm but not necessarily for Britain in the shortterm.
Re: BLIAR surrenders to federal Europe
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Originally Posted by Idaho
These two statements contradict each other. You can't toast post industrial capitalism and free trade and at the same time rail against people doing tertiary jobs and buying junk.
Yes yes whatever.
I agree with everything you and that state tell me.
Re: BLIAR surrenders to federal Europe
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Originally Posted by ShadesWolf
Yes yes whatever.
I agree with everything you and that state tell me.
Which state? That state? That one over there? Lithuania? Are you sure? :san_laugh:
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Yes Yes Im sure
The southern state of Idaho land, where everything is rosy and we all live happily ever after. Everybody loves everybody else and we are all equal. :san_tongue:
Re: BLIAR surrenders to federal Europe
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Originally Posted by ShadesWolf
Yes Yes Im sure
The southern state of Idaho land, where everything is rosy and we all live happily ever after. Everybody loves everybody else and we are all equal. :san_tongue:
Okay, who waterboarded ShadesWolf? :stare:
Re: BLIAR surrenders to federal Europe
EDIT by Ser Clegane to remove bad language
Well he's probabaly going to be lynched, and a sane (or at least seemingly) govt could save Blighty.
Oh wait, this is Britain, must hold the reserve what!