We Stand on Guard for Thee...Unless Bad Guys Come, in Which Case We Flee.

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Originally Posted by Krypta

Its funny you'd mention that because , well there was that one case, not to long ago, where Armed American Border Guards let a kid covered in blood, carrying an arsenal of weapons and a bloody chainsaw that he had just used to hack his 2 neighbors heads off with in Canada, into the to US without as much as a patdown. ~:rolleyes:

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Not true. He was detained and his weapons were confiscated. He was released because there was nothing to charge him with- no agencies had him listed as wanted and he apparently (~:confused:) wasn't violating any laws by carrying weapons to the border. Redardless, it's an entirely seperate issue- even if you everything you said were true, you'd only be using bad behavior to justify more bad behavior.

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Originally Posted by Xiahou

Not true. He was detained and his weapons were confiscated. He was released because there was nothing to charge him with- no agencies had him listed as wanted and he apparently (~:confused:) wasn't violating any laws by carrying weapons to the border. Redardless, it's an entirely seperate issue- even if you everything you said were true, you'd only be using bad behavior to justify more bad behavior.

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Yes, true. You call holding him for 15 minutes, detained ? I know of people that, with kids in the backseat, went over to the US shopping for the day that have been given a harder time getting back into Canada.

The bottom line is, your border guards let him in, case closed. If the glaring reality of this situation doesn't give you any sort of pause, then you have far more issues on your hands than Canadians running their border how they want to run their border. If you want to condone what happened with this kid and turn a blind eye then so be it, it doesn't matter to me either way. But putting a gun in their hands certainly didn't make these US border guards smarter, braver, fitter, or more comptitent than their Canadian counterparts no matter which way you look at it. The only difference is they couldve put a bullet in this kids head if they wanted to.

I understand many of your points, Redleg, but my main point was that in the EU, officers who pursuit a suspect can follow that suspect into the neighboring country and don´t have to stop at the borderline, so if there are no officers close in the neighboring country, they can still catch the suspect.
On the US-Canadian border that seems to be different because the article says that US police stopped the suspects just a second before they would have had to stop because of the borderline, which I think is superfluous. A police car is not an invasion force, so why don´t both countries sign a similar treaty that would allow the US police to follow the suspects into Canada and the other way around. That would also make border guards´jobs less dangerous and perhaps make catching suspects easier.

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Originally Posted by Krypta

Yes, true. You call holding him for 15 minutes, detained ? I know of people that, with kids in the backseat, went over to the US shopping for the day that have been given a harder time getting back into Canada.

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Still not true. He was held for hours while they questioned him and called other law enforcement agencies to see if he was wanted. You also say he 'wasnt even patted down' again, not true. They searched him and confiscated all of his weapons. In summation- what you stated originally was false and you got your facts wrong yet again in your next response. :rolleyes:

Re: We Stand on Guard for Thee...Unless Bad Guys Come, in Which Case We Flee.

Canada is still a better country than the U.S.

I assume that New York is better then both? :2thumbsup:

heh. Manhattan is an island off the coast of Europe :2thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by Papewaio

I assume that New York is better then both? :2thumbsup:

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It must be a trait left over from the Dutch...

pfft. THE STARS AT NIGHT ARE BIG AND BRIGHT DEEP IN THE HEART OF

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TEXAS

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Re: We Stand on Guard for Thee...Unless Bad Guys Come, in Which Case We Flee.

Canada is still a better country than the U.S.

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Hey the border is only hours away.

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heh. Manhattan is an island off the coast of Europe

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Thats not all of NY city even. Its still part of the US . A very liberal part I will grant you. NYC is probably the best example that all people and religions can get along. What has Canada got to compare with our great city?

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Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny

What has Canada got to compare with our great city?

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Off the top of my head;
1.Doesn't border New Jersey.
2.Beer that is actually an alcoholic beverage rather than spoiled apple juice.
3.Less crime
4.better air quality
5.It's not a terrorist target

We have beer thats just as good as yours if not better. :laugh4: Those other things are minor compared to the advantages of NYC. But I give you an A for effort.

I don't really like beer, but I've been told what passes for beer in the US we would call light beer. Plus the bigger the human zoo (IE a city) the less connection you have with the natural world around you.

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Originally Posted by lars573

Off the top of my head;
1.Doesn't border New Jersey.
2.Beer that is actually an alcoholic beverage rather than spoiled apple juice.
3.Less crime
4.better air quality
5.It's not a terrorist target

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I got a sick laugh from #5. It's not a target of terrorism, just a source of and safe haven for terrorists.

You should have stopped with the first one, 'nuf said. :2thumbsup:

If Canada is a source and haven for terrorists rather than a target then why should it matter if their border guards are armed? All that matters is that the American ones are, after all that is where the unlikely horde of Canadian terrorists will be heading! I'm not sure whether a dangerous terrorist would actually attempt an offical crossing of such a huge and porous border anyway. You might get the stupid ones going through the check point I suppose....

They don't even have to be terrorists. There was a comical, at the same time sad, story of a guy that almost froze to death making an illegal crossing into Canada from North Dakota last winter. He had met and fell in love with a girl on the internet. As he was already in the US illegally, he knew he couldn't go through immigration control, so he drove out into the middle of nowhere and attempted to walk 5 miles through a snowy prairie. Aah, the things guys will do for the promise of a little nookie... :stupido3:

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Originally Posted by Xiahou

What's the point of having a guard if they aren't going to guard anything?

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So they can get paid. Isn't paying for useless people part and parcel of the Canada mind-set?

Azi

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Originally Posted by Azi Tohak

So they can get paid. Isn't paying for useless people part and parcel of the Canada mind-set?

Azi

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You're going to have to elaborate on that.

Meh, I can't explain. Like Mommy said, if you can't something nice, don't say anything at all.

If I could come up with something to stop this ode to the most useless country on Earth, I would use that.

Azi

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Originally Posted by Azi Tohak

Meh, I can't explain. Like Mommy said, if you can't something nice, don't say anything at all.

If I could come up with something to stop this ode to the most useless country on Earth, I would use that.

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I'm tempted to pick apart these two statements, but I realise now that you're just being a tool.

Please keep this civil, guys

I think Azi has already gone beyond that. My, I'm full of useless posts tonight!

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Originally Posted by Azi Tohak

If I could come up with something to stop this ode to the most useless country on Earth, I would use that.

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Wow.