Re: American Black history month...
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Originally Posted by rory_20_uk
A small example: in the UK very few surgeons are female, but there are far more in psychiatry and paediactrics. Should laws be passed against this terrible divide, or can we accept that perhaps men are generally better surgeons and women better at psychiatry and paediactrics?
You completely overlook highly significant cultural factors at work both in the jobs people select for themselves and the jobs that people are selected and directed to.
DC - Mongoid, not mongoloid is the term for someone with Down's.
Mongoloid, Negroid, Causcoid are scientifically obsolete terms and are not used in modern anthropology. They are based on a discredited idea that white people came from the Caucas mountains.
Re: American Black history month...
I think the lower numbers of non-black male/black female couples might have something to do with the willingness or motivation of non-black men to date a black woman. It's been my experience that most non-black men simply don't want a serious relationship with a black woman. This being the case they might not be as inclined to go that extra mile (read aggressiveness, time, money & effort) to get a black girlfriend. Most simply want to 'give it a go' and then move on. An old buddy of mine from Japan was a perfect example of this. He used to tell me he fantasized about sleeping with an attractive black woman but when I pressed him about what kind of woman he wanted to get serious with or marry the response was "Japanese, probably (east) Asian ... maybe a white girl." and that was it.
As to the earlier remark that a black woman would never put up with the kind of abuse that a white woman would, well I would disagree... with qualifications. Having lived in NYC all my life I have found the opposite to be true. I've never seen women treated as badly as black men treat their women and I have never seen women make more excuses for the behavior of their men as black women do. If I didn't know any better I'd say black women in general seem to thrive on abuse and are notorious masochists. Whether we're talking about the disparate rates in domestic violence, illegitimacy, etc. On the other hand (and on a rather incendiary note) I will say that I've noticed that many non-black women who date black men (especially those who 'only' date black men) seem to be unusually submissive and/or obssessed with men they perceive as being extremely dominant. This might have fueled rory_20_uk's girlfriend's observation about white women.
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Originally Posted by Lemur
Despite all of the very good reasons to hold BHM in February, I still think it's a miserable month to get stuck with. If the tradition continues, we really ought to think about moving it to something more pleasing, such as May or June.
How about getting rid of this 'race of the month club' silliness altogether and simply provide African-Americans with the same honor bestowed other large ethnic groups? Italians have Columbus Day, the Irish St. Patrick's, etc. African Americans already have Martin Luther King day. Let's leave it at that. I'm also a little sick of the notion that America's youth should be schooled in the culture of other groups. It's especially ridiculous in light of the fact that from grades 4 and up America's students are far behind the industrialized world in terms of mathematics and science and are sadly mediocre in easier subjects like english and history. But hey, let's keep pushing the social engineering agenda! Our youth may not know their readin', ritin' and rithmatic but they're damn good people... please.
I also find it amusing that liberal leaning Americans go bats--t and scream about the separation of church and state whenever a religious symbol is displayed on government property (or for that matter, anything remotely religious receives sponsorship by the government) and yet they have no problem with the notion of picking and choosing which ethnic/racial group gets a cultural nod by the government and society at large for an entire month!
Re: American Black history month...
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Originally Posted by Don Corleone
It can't be May or June. Many schools, especially in the South close for the summer in early June. May tends to be exam review time. My vote would be for October, but again, it may be that Americans have learned about as much Black History as they're going to (sadly, about as much as any other history, which is bumpkus).
So true... Like Chris Rock said, "Everything I knew about Black History was Martin Luther King!!!"
Re: American Black history month...
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Originally Posted by Don Corleone
My vote would be for October, but again, it may be that Americans have learned about as much Black History as they're going to (sadly, about as much as any other history, which is bumpkus).
Isn't October already Latino History Month?
Dave, relax. I'm NeonGod after a name change.
Re: American Black history month...
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Originally Posted by GoreBag
Isn't October already Latino History Month?
Dave, relax. I'm NeonGod after a name change.
Oh!!! If i had known that I would have told you to kiss my ass and left it at that!!! :laugh4:
Re: American Black history month...
I couldn't have left you to look the fool. It would have been uncharacteristic.
Re: American Black history month...
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Originally Posted by Devastatin Dave
I don't think there should be a month that celebrates the achievements of Blacks in the United States. I believe that American history, which involves all races and cultures, should be taught and celebrated and be all inclussive. In a way, if I was black, I would find it insulting as an American that is black, that my achievements of my ancestors only be celebrated for one month.
Yeah, and I don't know if this has already been pointed out, but having a specific "Black History Month" also implies that the remaining 11 months of the year are "White History Months". Still, I wouldn't mind more attention being given to the history of the negroid peoples of Sub-Saharan Africa, their representation often is nearly non apparent in most general history works and classes, especially when it comes to the pre-colonial period.
As for the whole off-track White-Black relationship issue, I too have seen this tendency for White males to shun Black women and instead prefer other Whites or sometimes Asians. Likewise, White women seem to shun Asian men, I think I've seen ONE White female and Asian male couple in my life, while the vice versa I see on a regular basis.
I remember this wisecrack; Black men do White women, White men do Asian women, and Asian men play Starcraft. :laugh4:
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Idaho, I was illustrating that differences is not an indication that something is wrong. And if cultures are pushed or pulled towards a certain trade this too is not something to worry about - not all factors can be blamed on society's discrimination.
As far as I'm aware us medicas call them trisomy 21 now, but monoloid was certainly the other term I've used. Yes,I'm a sinner
The terms may be redundant, but I'm still called a caucasian, which no one seems to get hot under the collar about.
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