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In no particular order my tope 5 games ( I know the title says one).
X-Wing, my first dog fighting game, loved the training missions and then the campaign, X-Wing alliance tried to get close to this but failed. Never got to play TIE fighter would have liked to (I'm an Imperial!)
Panzer General II, Love this game and still play it, first game I modded the stats of, the first real strategy game I played, and the first game I knew of to allow units to gain experience and have leaders with traits and then the ability to upgrade those units and take them with you on campaigns.
Lords of the Realm II, My first strategy game of a sort, it was simple but fun, I was so disappointed with LoTR III though, what a bad way to end a great series
Shogun: Total War, I actually didn't buy this game, my dad wanted to give gaming a go and bought it, he didn't know how to play any PC games so he told to me figure it out for him and then show him how to play, after 2 days I was hooked and had to buy a copy for myself. The ability to have thousands of units in a battle with morale and experience was amazing. The use of seasons and the music (which is on my playlist) all added to the atmosphere. It hooked me to the TW series but although I like MTW and RTW I still think they pale in the face of STW.
Aliens vs Predators, the first FPS that really sucked me in the game. Halflife was cool and all but AVP is the only game that had real atmosphere. Being that lone marine having to fight his way from mishap to mishap with only my motion sensor to warn me. Having to turn the volume up just to hear the face huggers from a distance and then being heartbroken when after 45 minutes of play I get killed and have to start the level over again.
There's a lot of other games I like for console like Goldeneye and Ocarina of Time but they never hooked me like the games I listed.
That's another element of NWN that never really got me going: the lack of coherency between adventures. Online the game does get better and more enjoyable, but I just don't seem to get on with the fact that your character can play ten different adventures in a single day with no consequences.Quote:
Originally Posted by econ21
How can my character have been fighting Umber Hulks in the forests surrounding Neverwinter, and then been trudging along the Sword Coast fighting pirates, mages, hobgoblins, Saemon Havarians (I'll get you yet, Saemon!), and whatnot else, and then finishing with a bloody romp through the forests of Tethyr -- all in the same day?
I guess it's just my ceaseless love for realism in gaming. Sure, the game does in some ways come quite close to real tabletop roleplaying as I imagine DnD to be (never played it myself ~;p), yet I would think that on the tabletop your character cannot just have jumped from Neverwinter to Amn and back again without proper roleplay to fit.
I suppose that's just the result of the game partially importing the elements of a seamless MMOG that don't stroke with me. Oh well, I guess a single more involved (yet freeform like BG) storyline, or a seamless yet single area from the DnD world are more for me than NWN :sweatdrop:
I never really re-use a character, so I don't really have that problem[1]. The vast amount of experience you can wrack up from hacking and slashing in a game like NWN just seems to make it impractical (a contrast with BG1, where you had to kill hordes of goblins etc to go up a few early levels). I do tend to work with the same build for most modules, so I guess I am effectively using the same character but with a "reset experience" button but that's just because I am boring.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Wizard
The two recommendations I made earlier are pretty much standalone. The Shadowlords series really does rival BG in taking you from level 1 to goodness knows what level in a very coherent and satisfying way. I hear the designer was offered a job at Bioware on the strength of it. The other module is more of a standalone but was better than most commercial RPGs I've played.
In some ways I find NWN rather similar to RTW. Out of the box, it is ultimately rather a bland and unsatisfying game, particularly in the light of the high expectations generated its parentage. But mods can go an awfully long way to elevating it to greatness. It is still ultimately constrained by its engine and mechanics - you always know you are playing NWN (or RTW) and not something completely different. But the modders really have worked wonders in terms of adding high quality content.
[1]I only play solo or with my son.
Hmmm, sounds good then. You've convinced me to have another go at the game, with these modules for a change. I may report back later to say what I thought of it, but right now I'm enjoying Icewind Dale so that might take a while. ~;p
Strangely, I just re-installed IWD2 last night. I probably won't get far as the games are too much of a naked dungeon crawl, but I always enjoy creating a party and climbing those early levels.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Wizard
Pretty sure I've spent more time on RTW than all other games maybe combined, and with what we've got accomplished with EB, and with classics being my profession, I don't think I'll ever enjoy any other game more in working on it or playing it. But Civ I and II, as well as Simcity and its various reincarnations come in second and third places.
It certainly is nudging its way up the top of my most played list, thanks in large part to the mods like EB. :bow:Quote:
Originally Posted by Teleklos Archelaou
Did you try CivIV? I hated CivIII, but found Civ4 brought the gameplay back to what I remembered being so addictive about Civ2. But this time it was fun as well as addictive. An EB type game with the diplomacy and challenge of Civ would be close to my perfect strategy game.Quote:
But Civ I and II, as well as Simcity and its various reincarnations come in second and third places.
Played more than anything else:
-M:TW and perhaps Il 2 series
-Multiplayer: Warcraft 2, played it more over LAN in the last 10 years, than anything else still great today.
My all time classics:
-X-wing, the first game I've bought. Although Tie Fighter is much better I got it too late to consider it classic for myself.
-Wing Commander series, I would love to see something like WC3 or 4 again today, even a relrelease on DVD would be great.
-DID's F-22 Total Air War or EF-2000
-Commanche 3
-SimCity and SC2000
Honourable mention:
-Caesar III, Sim City with romans and some real time fighting
-Battlezone 1 and 2: Great concept and atmosphere
-Schleichfahrt (don't english title or even if it was released outside germany): like X-wing with submarines, great story and atmosphere, nice physics for a mid 90ties action game.
I didn't play a lot of games since I got stuck with 3 games (make it 4 games) for such a long time.
TBS - Romance of the Three Kingdoms 3. (1989)
It's my first PC game back in 1990. Since I know the novel pretty well back then, the game offered a unique experience that no other game could.
RTS - Shogun: Total War. (1999)
While playing RoTK, I was always wishing for a grander strategy game in which I could command a large army, put it into a formation and march across a huge battle field to meet the enemy in real time. Lord of the Realm 2 (1996?) filled that wish a bit, but it wasn't enough.Then in late 1998, I read a preview for STW on PCGamers Magazine and I was hooked. I followed the game development until I finally got to play it about a year later.
FPS - Operation Flashpoint: Cold War Crisis. (2001)
IIRC, there were a few great games released that same year, but I didn't have lots of free time to play game (my senior year and working). I am glad that I chose OFP. Unique open environment. The missions are great (lots of heart-pounding-palm-sweating moments). Great mission editor. Large modding community keeping the game alive until now. I played many FPS after that, but always go back to OFP (CWC and Res).
Well since Caesar III got me into gaming on the computer, it deserves an honorable mention.
But if I had to chose the best game I'd ever played, it would be Zelda: Ocarina of Time. Great game, all around.
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The Thief series. They really are just one big game, in the end. Especially when you consider the intro of the first, and the outro of the last one.
I'd also add the X-Com games, especially Apocalypse.
I always wanted to play that game. (the newer versions) but unfortunately i never find them in stores.Quote:
Originally Posted by pdoan8
btw im gonna add Stronghold 2 to my list. i didnt add it before because i got quite bored with it.now i like it again! anybody here played Stronghld, Stronghold Crusader, or Stronghold 2. Stronghold Crusader gave me very fond memories. if you did play and of the Stronghold seires, what did you think? (its what got me into RTS!)
im going to add Kessen to the list. although there's not much strategy in it (depends more where you deploy your armies) compared to RTW, it was very fun. lots of cutscenes set in Medieval Japan. (starting with Ieyasu Tokugawa) and it got me into Medieval Japan History. (funny hats and helmets though)
A tie between Operation Flashpoint (and the various expansions), and Thief/Thief2 (Thief: Deadly Shadows rates just "eh" in my opinion).
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Long time no see kekvitirae, good to see you're back. :2thumbsup:
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Welcome back kek! :balloon3: Loved your Mrs.Cat and her kitten! :kiss:
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My legendary game is probably one noone here has heard of. It was a MUD(Multi-User Dungeon, text base multiplayer RPG) called the Dawn of Time. The mix of players, enforced RP, and its system just made it so much fun. Overtime i'll probably spend more time on other games like MTW and Civilization but it'll always be the feel I got playing that game that i'll be looking for.
Excellent taste. Thief:Deadly Shadows is "eh" indeed. Not a bad game at all, but a HUGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE step back from The Dark Project and The metal age.Quote:
Originally Posted by kekvitirae
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The Thief Games (obviously!). Thief 1 and 2 are brilliant, but they merely set the stage for Thief Deadly Shadows. The level design is the best I've ever encountered, the plot is excellent, the graphics are smooth and stylish, the light effects pure genius, and the sound is the icing on the cake. I never thought sound could be so fundamental in a game until I played this.
The only levels I like from Deadly Shadows was the museum and Robbing The Cradle. RTC a wonderful level for a good scare, reminds me of House on Haunted Hill.
The cradle was awesome, but not quite as frightening as the Cathedral level from the first. I have never been so scared in a game, it was also my first encounter with a haunt. I thought it was a pretty strange place for a hammerite, and back then I clubbed everything in sight (now I try to ghost everything), so I club.....it. It turns around, with that FREAKISH sound and slices me to bits. If anyone wonders what a haunt sounds like, http://208.49.149.120/files/jukebox/...%20Haunted.mp3
brrrr.
What ruined deadly shadows for me was the horrible AI, soooooo easy to outsmart.
Does anyone remember a game called Giants?
That was so cooool, i remember walking into WHS with my vouchers me and my brother had saved up. That was such a cool game...
Aaaaaahhhh the good old days...~:mecry:
Like many of you, it's hard to pick out one particular title.
However, Ultima 7 (and the second part) are legendary and provided hundreds of hours of gaming bliss. A great believable world, loads of characters to talk to, great history and completely immersive atmosphere make it a joy to play and to explore. You could quite happily ignore the main quest threads and go off and find hidden areas, interesting side quests, and oddities that combined to make a truly great experience.
Fallout 2 is a close second: another RPG that featured a great game world, but packed with good humour, some nice fights (clearing out the gangs in New Reno with shotguns and machine guns!) and so many sub-quests and things that you can't experience in one play. In fact, upon completing Fallout2 for the first time, I replayed it again and again just to find all the extra stuff and quests. And you get to play as a truly evil character and plant explosives on thieving kids!
System Shock is probably the best experience I've ever had in one game - that is the first time I played through it. The atmosphere is immense but it loses a bit the next time you play it.
I don't think any game since about 1999 has had such an impact as those games. I've played a hell of a lot since then, but I tend to find they have less and less lasting appeal.
PS: Wasn't Total Annihilation the king of RTS games! C&C had a few tanks blowing each other up, TA had hundreds of machines and gun batteries simultaneously blasting the hell of each other. A year or two of fun that game provided.
I played the original WAY after part two, and once you get used to the controls it's every bit as good. Too heavy on action, but Shodan is much more evil, welcome to my death machine brrrrrrrrrrrr :dizzy2: I even got the original cd and box, quite a rare find these days.Quote:
Originally Posted by professorspatula
I want a remake or ROM for the nintendo DS, now.
I'd agree with you fragony, about the Haunted Cathedral. I still haven't completed thief 1 yet as I've been playing the series backwards (got introduced to the Thief series by Deadly Shadows) so I only recently played that level. It has to be said its the first time I've ever had a real adrenaline rush playing a game. Who would have thought a few low poly meshes with some crude textures stretched over them could be so damn scary. Anyway, the Elder Scrolls series is pretty good as well.
You'll get an even better adrenaline rush from Return to the Cathedral, later on in the game.
I'd have a tough time picking my best ever games, because there are so many titles I've played and loved that I've simply forgotten, but here's a few. Note that we are talking retro gaming here folks - these are all Amiga games. In spite of its better graphics and CPU power etc., I've never come across a PC game that matched any of my favourite Amiga titles. In no particular order:
1. Hack. An Amiga public domain game. It was I believe the first version Hack that had graphics instead of symbols. This is the game that got me into computing, I was addicted to it for about twelve months, and I'd love to play it again if I could find a decent version of it for the PC. Later versions of the game were, unfortunately, unbalanced by the addition of the Keystone Kops and other changes, but the earlier versions are diabolically tough to beat.
2. Larn. Another PD game, much like Hack but with larger, prettier graphics and less depth. A lot of fun to play all the same until you learned how to beat all the monsters. Eventually had to admit defeat on difficulty level 6.
3. Wizzy's Quest - another PD game, this one written by a single very talented individual. A simple platformer written in BASIC, this is one of the most addictive games I ever played. You could only save every five levels and man, it was tough to get through a whole five levels without losing all your lives! A brilliant piece of programming.
4. Faery Tale Adventure. Combined really cute graphics with arcade action and a big campaign. Heaps of fun to play through the first time around, not much replayability though.
5. Dungeon Master. One of the few games done with hi-res graphics, DM was both beautiful to look at and fun to play. The levels were all very well thought out and the monsters were varied and interesting. Unlike many RPG's, it didn't overwhelm you with incredibly huge levels.
6. Cannon Fodder I and II. While I'm not normally into arcade games, the Cannon Fodder series grabbed me from the first minute of play. A great combination of strategy and tactics, you needed to fully utilize both to win. Unfortunately CF I always crashed on the really terrific level 12, but I did manage to finish the sequel.
7. Speedball II. Fantastic sports game, I had heaps of fun with this. Wish someone would do a repeat of it on the PC, it's a game made for MP.
8. Elvira II. This one gets in for the great, scary graphics in the studio and the haunted house. The other parts of the game, the giant insect maze and the skeleton maze, were a bit dull by comparison.
9. Lords of the Realm II. LOTR for the PC is often considered a classic but the Amiga version of the game is much better again, with much prettier graphics, better controls, more detailed and better balanced gameplay and more challenge. A few tweaks here and there would possibly make this game the best ever.
Now I know I've missed one or two...but anyhow. An honourable mention goes to the PC games Shogun and Imperialism II. Shogun was wonderfully original, with great atmospherics, but just that little bit lacking in challenge once you got the hang of things. The campaign side wasn't deep enough either (a common failing with all the TW games).
Imperialism II is a game I've played perhaps more than any other, and I still love it even though, again, it is lacking somewhat in balance and challenge once you master its nuances. Indeed that is the problem I've found with PC games in general, they have great presentation but most of them are just too easy to beat. I think this is because modern games cost so much to develop that everything goes into presentation and wow! factor and not enough into balance and challenge. It didn't used to be that way in gaming.
I am so jealous, I wish I could do a fresh replay of the best games ever made. Yes sir, I am a rabid Thief fanboy. Nothing comes even close. You do know that the fun isn't over once you beat the games right? There are sooooooooooooooooooooooo many great fanmissions, some of them are crafted with so much devotion that it tops the quality of the missions from the original games.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master_Thief
3 fanmissions every Thief-fan should play,
1) Calendra's Legacy
2) The inverted Mansion
3) The 7th Chrystal
The maker of #2 was also in the Deadly Shadows team, that is how impressed they were with his work.
must.....stop........rambling..............
Yeah, I don't blame you for rambling. I've played a few fan missions and have got the 7th crystal, completely un-played, ready and waiting. I've also played a couple of thief 3 FMs and have recently started using dromed (I tried T3ED but it got kind of annoying). I haven't played thief 1 for a fortnight as I've had so many other things on my mind (school, learning darkbasic, getting slightly obsessed with battlefield 2 etc). However your "rambling" has suddenly made me realise how much time I've been wasting. Cheers.
Thief is where its at and there's nothing that even comes close to its brilliance.