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You're holding up Sparta as a positive example? :inquisitive: Legalised paedophilia, legalised anal rape of unmarried woman, unwanted babies thrown into a chasm, a free elite relying on a large population of slaves.....yeah, go Sparta!Quote:
Originally Posted by Cronos Impera
I still don't see what your point is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eclectic
Just entirely scrap the concept of marriage. As government sactioned institutions, that is. Straight couples can still get their marriage licence from God in a church, something most gay couples wouldn't want anyway
(as to your upcoming question, it would be wrong to force churches to recognise gay marriages)
The only non-bigoted rational argument I can think of to give special recognision to a straight couple AND give them a financial bonus for it, is to encourage family building. Most western countries have low birth rates afterall.
A better way to accomplish that goal is to increase child welfare payments, obviously.
Any other financial aid/tax break to couples for whatever reason should be given to couples of any sexual orientation who are living together for a significant period of time.
$4000 Australian per baby born in Aus at the moment. ~:cheers:
Plus Benefits A or B for a family:
Benefit A gives another $4,000 per child per annum under 13, dropping to $2000 at age 24 (yes as long as you are at Uni studying for 'free' and living at home your parents can get a supplement)... this one is means tested.
Benefit B gives about $3000 dollars for a child under five for single income family with the primary earner not income tested. It drops to $2000 from ages 5 to 15.
Wha...huh... ???Quote:
Originally Posted by Papewaio
I don't get it. The government pays the poor to have children? :no:
Jeeze. No wonder I appear to be such a freaking fascist to you people. They pay you to breed at the cost of the wealthy.
My God.
Everyone regardless of income gets the maternity bonus, $4k per birth. I thought given your views on immigration that you would see the sense in boosting the internal birth rate.
Benefit A is means tested against the entire family income. This helps poorer families or ones that have an adult who is studying and working part-time.
Check Benefit B. You are rewarded for having a traditional single income family where only one caregiver is working and the other at home.
I used caregiver because the benefits can be given to grandparents or guardians instead of mom and dad... it goes to the primary caregivers.
There is also income supplements for getting your child fully immunised by 19 months. :idea2:
Let's see...
-a good birth rate is good for society (in some countries getting kids is considered a social duty)
-raising kids costs money
The latter is not a problem for millionaires. But it is for "poor" people (i.e. people to who $4,000 is a significant sum of money, apparently)
I was speaking in a sense regarding its content as legitimate. Of course, it's hilarious.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ser Clegane
I find that quite offensive. This is just another piece of evidence that Christianity is allowed to be openly derided and mocked, whereas if you inserted "Allah" in the place of God, and Mohammed in the place of St. Paul, you would be publicly warned, have your post edited, and every single Muslim would complain.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cronos Impera
I find it apalling that people deride Christianity, and yet if anyone dares to insult Islam, they will be considered in the wrong.
You could of course just report the post. Use the system.
Sorry, I was just suprised Mods hadn't picked up on this.
Bah. Everyone is so sensitive. The only time I ever reported a post was to spite the fact that posts could be reported.
I respect that the Org is a private forum, but I think people just need to take their lumps and just give 'em back. These aren't personal attacks, but generalizations. Sometimes they're right. Sometimes they're wrong. It isn't worth getting butt-hurt over.
Unless someone has an issue then we don't generally get involved. The exceptions being for direct attacks on a Orgah or someone who can't defend themselves... children and democrats :laugh4: In the backroom you should be able to logically prove or disprove someones posts without resorting to mud slinging.
Someones post generally reflect on themselves more rather then the subject.
If a primate chooses to sling faeces at their own reflection its their choice.
You Auzzie's have it good in that regard. Here we get a family alloance per month per kid. Plus uni is "free"! I wish we had that. Here tuition is only susedized and the gov gives out student loans.Quote:
Originally Posted by Papewaio
But we don't have any user fee's for health care. So an income supplement for immunishaztion wouldn't be needed. It's not like shots are dental work or eye exams or elective plastic surgery.
Its free in the sense that you pay it back later as a tax... mine totaled about 14k in uni fees that is indexed to inflation in which I pay back the government as an extra tax (about 8%) so it would take about 3 years at my current earning capacity. Also you can pay it off upfront and get a discount of about 15%.
The HECS payback doesn't kick in until you earn a certain threshold of money so technically art degrees will never have to pay back. :laugh4:
My God.Quote:
Originally Posted by PanzerJager
They let me have one day off from boot camp and I log in to see how things have changed in the last three weeks only to find that an ultra conservative has made one of the most sensible statements I have ever heard in the Backroom.
I have to be back by 19:00 hrs tonight to complete the rest of my training, but I can't wait to see what this place will look like when I get back.
Perhaps JAG will have joined an ultra right wing survivalist group and Eclectic will be a card-carrying ACLU member...
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Heh, Im not completely one-dimensional. :bow:
Its good to see you, your presence has definitely been missed around here. :embarassed:
I hope things are going well for you. :cheers: