What Expansion do you want? 2

Reneissance sounds best. Though the tactics and units changed significantly and they would differ from those around 1000AD.

And Medieval II Reneissance Expansion would sound slightly silly because of combining two eras in one title.

Tatar invasion could be cool too. Imagine Genghis Khan's ancestors break through Polish and Hungarian defences and go further west, plundering Western Europe.

The Turks... same here. Neither Muslim onslaught managed to break through to threaten the whole of Europe... But anyway... the main historical drawback of Medieval, as compared to Rome, is that global domination was no longer possible in the period.

So Reneissance sounds best, because you can still have factions from the whole continent without changing history too much.

I voted for Crusader Invasion. I just have a thing with Crusaders. :)

I was stuck between viking: invasion, the crusades and the islamic expansion.

would be amazing to see 3d marurdering vikings and saxon, and you could have the battle of hastings (never played the orginal so i dont know what thats like)

Also to really go into detail with the crusades would be really cool, playing as islam to defend jerusalem or the crusaders.

I chose islamic expansion because i would really love to see the islamic factions in a lot more detail (never played mtw so i dont know if they are already detailed though)

Viking Invasion, but I'd want a bigger map - Norse influence wasn't limited to the British Isles.

I voted Crusader (kept thinkin of Kingdom of Heaven), but I desperately want a Byzantine Total War from year 500-1118.
And a Norman: Total War.
and a Viking Total War.
Ooh, and a "Celtic:Total War"! Dealing with the Saxons, Jutes, Romanized Britians (the ones who fought under the true King Arthur), Scotti, Irish, Picts and Dalrida tribes.
T'would be sweet.
Reniassance is already partly covered, and they'll probably be making an "Imperial Total War" some day, so I doubt that'll happen.

I say the new world. It should begin in maybe the early 1500s.This leaves the Aztecs and Incas alive while Europe is starting to begin its expansion into the Americas.Be any faction you want and decide between conquering the new or the old world or both!Think about it. Wouldn't it be fun to play as an Islamic faction and decide to expand into the Americas? Actually, that might be a scary thought.

It's difficult to say really, I don't think the Americas can be done justice without jumping forward drastically and changing the way the game plays to be 'musket' warfare, conversely as has been already mentioned making another Viking Invasion with a smaller focus and retrospective time period (relative to MIITWs current setting) doesn't seem all too sensible either. I've never been too fond of TW expansions so I don't really think they're worth it other than to update the game. I still own them though :)

I think that a expansion covering the full map from 500 would be good.
It will allow the player to refight campaigns as
- The Bysantine attempts to re-conquer the former western roman empire
- The expansion of the Muslim caliphate
- The formation of the Holy Roman empire
- The wars with the persian empire
- The shift from barbarism
- The persian conquest of Egypt
- Vikings!!!!!!!!!!

It should have

-Zorasterism and Paganism as religions
-national religious conversion should be an option for the player, (the spliting up of the Church and Muhammed should create mass conversions too)
- Holy war should be allowed for Orthodox players as what happened in history
- Nucleur weaponry


The Byzantine faction would need balencing though

I am not sure what this expansion should be called
Medieval Totalwar II: Dark Ages?
Medieval Totalwar II: Sword of Allah?
Medieval Totalwar II: Rise from Chaos?
Medieval Totalwar II: Charlemayne?
Medieval Totalwar II: Dawn of a new age?
Medieval Totalwar II: Tiberium Wars? :laugh4:

I would love to see a Dark Ages expansion, starting perhaps at about 800 A.D. It is a great period - the Age of Charlemagne, which marks the birth of chivarly and feudalism in Europe, the age of the Vikings (and there are so many people who have a fondness for them), the efforts of the Eastern Roman Empire to remain a superpower, and the rise of the Arab Caliphate. There would be plenty of additional factions - Kiev Rus, Avar Khaganate in the middle of Europe, The Bulgars (I am obviously biased here, but during this period we were an important power and one that was a major problem to the Byzantines), The Khazar Khaganate (and we will finally have something in the Eastern part of the map), plus Lombards in northern Italy, Great Moravia, Croatia, Saxons, Scotch and Irish. For the Invasion element, it is going to be mainly the Vikings (including the Kiev Variangians) doing the invading, but the Magyars, Pechenegs and Cumans can be made to appear similarly as the Mongols and Timurids, and so could the Seljuks. The final would be especially nice, because if you have control of most of the map and victory seems certain, a large skale Seljuk invasion, combined a Cuman one may present a final challenge in the campaign, prolonging its duration and making it so much more interesting.

And I need to add one more thing - the series is called Total War after all, and this is precisely what the Dark Ages were all about. A New World expansion would be perhaps more about trade and exploration, not to mention that there is nothing medieval in the conquest of the New World really, and it is supposed to be an expansion to the medieval game.

The Rennaisance were also pretty bloody times if I recall correctly.

But how could you do it without detailed naval combat?

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Originally Posted by Mac Clan

I voted Crusader (kept thinkin of Kingdom of Heaven), but I desperately want a Byzantine Total War from year 500-1118.

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WOW, WOW, WOW!!! 500-1118?????????? How's 500-1500? That would give whoever plays as the Byzantines a chance to reverse history, and kick a little. As it is the Byzantines survived till 1453!! At lot of good (good=hard to implement) stuff happened between 1118 and 1453!

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Originally Posted by Mount Suribachi

You gotta make it understandable first! I read "The 30 years War" last year at work :book: was always getting asked in the coffee-room "who fought that war? who won? what was it about?"

"Um, its a bit complicated....."

In the end I would just say "France & Sweden beat Germany and Spain" and that would satisfy people. I never did manage to come up with a simple explanation of what the war was about :juggle2:

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Well the thirty years war was some what a world war (at least european war). Most of the great powers were involved in it. It was also a religious war between catholics and protestants that started like a civil war in Germany (or between german states) and spread out. It is a war that led to the death of hundreds of thousands. There are still marks in several cultures to day from it.

However i would rather have a whole new game about that period.



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Originally Posted by Gustav II Adolf

Well the thirty years war was some what a world war (at least european war). Most of the great powers were involved in it. It was also a religious war between catholics and protestants that started like a civil war in Germany (or between german states) and spread out. It is a war that led to the death of hundreds of thousands. There are still marks in several cultures to day from it.

However i would rather have a whole new game about that period.



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OT but what the heck. It also had at least 4 phases with each phase having a different motivation behind it. You could say that it started out as a religious war and ended up as an excuse for power hungry, opportunistic monarchs to try to expand their holdings. :shrug:

LAN multiplayer... only thing i want so i can go over to my friends house hook up 3 comps and play together... PLEASE IM BEGGING ANYONE MAKE A MOD for a lan campaign that looks just like a single player campaign just longer turns... (wich idc about so ppl who are lil wineing babys OH ITS TO LONG there are ways to shorten it down and 3 ppl playing will not take that long...) make the turns together or something

i doubt this would ever happen, i dont know if someone said this yet either i didnt ready every post, but a world wide map and have the years 300bc to 1600ad. and over time new technology becomes available, like the marius reforms in rome usually are available around 220bc.

Crusaders expansion would be sexy. Hell its nearly created anyway, and it looks the dogs balls. Also, id be partial to a new world expansion, perhaps based around the carribean, but naval battles would be needed for that. Id also be keen on a British isles one, but as im currently playing arthurian total war, ive got no need to hassle about that lol.

Medieval 2: Total War China Wars Expansion

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