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Sorry, I don't have a pic and I'd have to start a whole new vanilla campiagn to get one.Quote:
Originally Posted by K COSSACK
EDIT: Here they are with their stats they are just super-powerful elephants that the Amazons have in the Russian steppes they are also a merc unit that pops up randomly in your vanilla campaign.
I never encountered those Yubtseb Elephants in my Vanilla campaigns, only normal elephants.
Btw, read "Yubtseb" backwards and you get "Bestbuy". :stupido2:
I once did, in a vainilla julii-roman campaign, when corinth rebelled...Quote:
Originally Posted by Centurio Nixalsverdrus
I felt like I was fighting the Pelennor fields battle, only that there was no ghost army to save me. They massacred my entire legion and 2 FM...
WW2 total war would be so unbelievably cool. I think its impossible though. It would really be a case of making an entire new franchise with 'TW' on the end. Imagine the trailer though.
You see someone looking over a field from inside a metllic box of somesort. Then you see 3 Sherman Fireflys rolling over the hill followed by 20 or 30 more. Your view zooms out and you see you were seeing a view from a Panther. Then the view spins and behind the panther is about 30 more German tanks behind the panther. They roll towards each other.
WW2: Total War!!
Then you see a sherman with 3 calliopes stacked on it with aa ninja driving it in the true CA fashion. :-)
I think Napoleonic will be next.
Sea warfare was a major part of warfare by that time (especially for the British). Without a serious effort at modelling sea battles, I dont think the Napoleonic period could be done justice.
I'll have to second that; CA should focus on including real time sea battles in their next game.
Hmm... so CA has problems with best buy?!?!?Quote:
Originally Posted by Centurio Nixalsverdrus
I bought my RTW from best buy...
also..."Gnitekram" =marketing!
WOOOOOOTQuote:
Originally Posted by DMu
Napolion: Total War or Rome 2: Total War for me.
I see people saying WWI: Total War...Yeah, it'd be quite new and interesting, but how many different units and factions can there possibly be? Machinegun crew, rifleman, flamethrower operator, officers, a few cavalry, various tanks and biplanes and a few bombers. Factions would be Great Britain, France, Germany, Austria-Hungary, Italy, Russia, Serbia, the Ottoman Empire, the United States and Bulgaria. There isn't really much to work with there. And also the engine would have to track every projectile; you'd need an insane machine to run it. That style of warfare would be rediculous in a Total War style game.
Now, the Napolionic Era is promising. Lots of options and factions and mostly a Total-War-esque fighting style. But only if you're allowed to command sea battles and as long as they implement it well (wouldn't be the most interesting, but it would be different and fun; two lines firing at each other with the occasional flaming ship heading toward you loaded with powder kegs).
But I can still hope for a Rome 2 to give them another try at it...
Much as I'd love to see a TW on the Warring States period of China, I think CA would sooner go for Shogun II. It does good for the sales of any game to have a ninja and/or samurai on the cover https://img135.imageshack.us/img135/5370/ninjacn3.gif
They could put a ninja on a China:TW game cover. It's almost certain that a TW game in China (or probably any of Asia) would have ninjas in it...Quote:
Originally Posted by Conqueror
I also hope for a new Shogun:Total War. Recently i have played S:TW but the graphics and the gameplay are just out of time and cannot match with R:TW or M:TW. So it would be really really reallyyy nice if they do a "remake". It would be an interesting experience playing such important historical chapter of old nippon.
Besides that, it would be possible to equal the troopnumbers. I dont know for sure, but i think the Japanese didnt use massive numbers of soldiers on the battlefields like in Europe. So i assume they could make "realistic" troopnumber as an option.
Yeah, and i hope one day i will see an army of tenthousands of polygonfighters on a virtual battlefield. *megalomaniac smile*
:beam:
Personally i would be interested in the game set in dark age times. The fall of Roman empire, the whole collapse of civilization, mass hordes of barbarians, the feeling of apocalypse really. That would be THE game, baby.
Late Bronze Age: Total War with a 1550 BC -1200 Bc timeframe. A rather well known but rarely used period that saw the climax of chariot warfare and offers lot's of interesting factions. Like the Hittites, Mycenaeans, New Kingdom Egypt (at this point still the part of upper egypt controlled by Thebes), Minoans, Mitanni, Kerma, the Hyksos etc. while none of them is a superpower yet.
As map area maybe something like this:
https://img296.imageshack.us/img296/7256/map3do9.th.jpg
I would prefer that the southern parts be cut out. It goes to far down into Africa and Arabia.
I wanted to include all of the later egyptian territories in africa, that's the whole Nile valley down to the Gebel barka/Napata, roughly the southern edge of the map. Also the kingdom of Kerma was an important regional power at the time the New Kingdom was founded and the Hyksos defeated.
Personally,I would agree with these people who want a game based in the Middle East region.I read a book about the history of the Middle East,and it sounded like it would be some really good material for a game.Though China and Shogun:Total War II don't seem too bad.Maybe an Asia:Total War?
what about risk total war (i gotta think of better title)
where you can pick about 30 random nation and place it on random map so it wont be too heavy. This way you can have Roman legionaries fighting Japanese Ninjas or something crazy like that.
what do you think?
Like Age of Empires 1?Quote:
Originally Posted by cunctator
This game would be awesome!
Minoans
Mycenians
Mitanni
Hyksos
Egypt
Others!
Ok PLEASE NO FANTASY total war anything, if CA produces some bs like world of warcraft tw they will never see my money again. And NO ww1 or ww2 total war!! would not work there are plenty of ww2 games out there please go play those instead! I recommend the close combat series. I said no China tw because I am simply just not interested in Chinese history sorry. Some kind of Mesopotamia total war would be interesting, but I would rather see it in a mod rather than the next TW game. My hope is for a Greece TW something like Hegemonia is making right now, but they have to bring in naval battles!!! what a great time peroid to add naval battles into the first tw game. Yet this naval battle system needs to be rather extensive, I want to be able to board enemy ships with marines or simply ram them to the bottom of the ocean!
Edit: Yes that map above and time peroid would also be awesome! Could still bring in naval battles! But they also need to make it very moddable because I see the brewing of the ultimate Napoleonic TW mod!
Oh but for the Mid east TW the minoans will only have one settlement (their island).
This game beat all else!
I doubt they will do Greece Total War considering Rome did an Alexander expansion. What I wonder is if there will be a third Medieval expansion before Total War 3. I think that is totally possible considering that's what they did with Rome.
I love the Total War series. They are the only games that stay on my hard drive and probably always will. But has anybody noticed that in the reviews for Medieval 2, it got slightly lower scores than Rome do to the fact that the interface really hasn't changed much for the entire series. In other words the engine and graphics have improved but it's starting to feel like 'more of the same'.
I really think they should put a lot of thought into modernizing the interface and introducing completely new directions in the game such as naval combat and a completely overhauled diplomacy system. Imagine amphibious assaults on blockaded ports. Battles that start as naval combat and end with troops wading on to beaches and fighting to secure a foothold.
As far as Total War 3, I think they should come full circle and do another Shogun but expand the map to include China, Korean and Mongol faction.
I'd like to see a game set during the rise and fall of the Mongols, especially if logistics was accurately modelled. Unfortunately it'd be difficult to make a TW game that included both Java and Hungary on the map, unless you represented terrain and politics at a fairly high level of abstraction.
...anything but Post Pike & Musket. Not that I dislike the Napoleonic era, actually very far from, but I fear that more than anything else, CA couldn't do the tactics any justice, perhaps they could, but after the P&M Era is when things started to get a lot more complicated, plus they'd have the problem of dealing with well read Napoleonic Scholars inside and out of the Corporation who would demand perfection, perhaps this would be for the best... perhaps not. But, the game would lose some sense of it's unique flavour, in exchange for realism, and this doesn't necessarily equate to playability.
...there is most definantly a reason Napoleonic Table Top Gamers are Called Grognards; and it isn't for the weak of heart.
I believe CA will put gameplay and cost-effectiveness before historical accuracy any day. They wouldn't have to deal with anyone demanding perfection, as those would not be in any position to make demands.
With the R:TW/M:TW2 engine it would be easily possible to double the scale for the map posted above and it would still be slightly smaller than the EB map (335003 pixels on the height map compared to EBs 360661). In this case there could be 3 or 4 provinces on crete and sufficient detail in other regions as the fertile crescent too. 31 faction slots would allow to represent all the major players plus a lot of the smaller (city) states and tribes on the map.Quote:
Originally Posted by K COSSACK
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I got the feeling this is what theyre up to. Although they wont see your (or mine) money again, fantasy is where they will find a lot more ne customers and they rely on the total war addicts not to have too hard principles.Quote:
Originally Posted by CrownOfSwords
Actually, i can definitely see Greece being the primary setting for the next TW game. There is rich diversity between the city-states, from governmental organization to military philosophy, and they were in constant competition with each other. Furthermore, there were significant technological developments from, say, 600-Alexander's era.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xtiaan72
The primary reason for this setting, however, has to be CA's need to make a return on their investment - as was said earlier, ancient greece is hot right now :2thumbsup: 300 was a huge movie which wont be soon forgot and that equates to free marketing.
As for modernizing the interface, so right. The series has become somewhat stagnant and needs a face lift. If I were in charge, players would have a lot more input on influencing the direction of their faction. Decisions on military organization (eg. slow and powerful infantry vs. speedy ranged armies), political or religious organization, etc.
I agree that the setting is cool especially if they added naval warfare, ramming boats and boarding parties and what not. I don't see how you could simulate that era without that. But I wonder about unit variety in that era if the scope is just Greece. Basically Militia Hoplites slowing walking across the battlefield and pushing against each other for ten minutes. Thats cool for a while but gets pretty old after say 200 or 300 years.There is nothing that can be done about that if you want to be realistic. That's the way they fought and we all know that. The Alexander mod gets tedious for that reason. Slowly walking to Asia with big long spears. That ain't gonna sell like a Medieval, Roman or Japanese setting. In a way Ca is running out of settings and time periods for this engine. It will be Rome or Japan again I imagine ( which is fine with me and it seem to be good sellers for them.)Quote:
Actually, i can definitely see Greece being the primary setting for the next TW game. There is rich diversity between the city-states, from governmental organization to military philosophy, and they were in constant competition with each other. Furthermore, there were significant technological developments from, say, 600-Alexander's era.