Best flat out Rockers

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Thanks.Yea the Cult is rather good and Godzilla and Don't Fear the Reaper are my favs atm, and I am keeping look out for their CD's in the local stores.

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Being the old dinosaur I am I can remember them playing over here as the Soft White Underbelly in the local clubs here on Long Island. The amount of talented musicians from Long Island is staggering and legendary. Few places can compare except maybe Liverpool :laugh4:

Long Island Music Hall of Fame

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2006 Inductees

* Mose Allison
* Sam Ash
* Tony Bennett
* Gary U.S. Bonds
* Harry Chapin
* George M. Cohan
* John Coltrane
* Perry Como
* James (Jimmy) D'Aquisto
* Ace Frehley
* George Gershwin
* Richie Havens
* Joan Jett
* Billy Joel
* Cyndi Lauper
* Little Anthony and the Imperials
* Long Island Philharmonic
* Edward "Little Buster" Forehand
* Johnny Maestro & The Brooklyn Bridge
* Marian McPartland
* George "Shadow" Morton
* Run-DMC
* Neil Sedaka
* Gene Simmons
* Paul Stanley
* Peter Criss
* Stray Cats
* Stony Brook University
* Sam "Bluzman" Taylor
* Twisted Sister
* Vanilla Fudge
* Leslie West

[edit] 2007 Inductees

* Louis Armstrong
* Count Basie
* Walter Becker
* Pat Benatar
* Blue Öyster Cult
* Bob Buchmann
* Mariah Carey
* Aaron Copland
* Neil Diamond
* The Good Rats
* Arlo Guthrie
* Marvin Hamlisch
* Carole King
* LL Cool J
* Guy Lombardo
* Eddie Money
* Public Enemy
* The Ramones
* Beverly Sills
* Simon and Garfunkel
* Barbra Streisand

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All from LI and most Ive seen play locally.

Oh and not from LI but one of my favorite rock bands that no one has yet mentioned.....STYX

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Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny

I must say Im amazed theres not more Aerosmith Fans out there. They sure do rock.

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I have Toys In The Attic, they're good and all but not my favourite by a long shot.

George Michael!

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Originally Posted by Moros

George Michael!

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You aint nicked any of his stash by any chance? :inquisitive: :laugh4:

Joe Strummer, lead singer of "The Clash"...

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You aint nicked any of his stash by any chance? :inquisitive: :laugh4:

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Why, me? Never!

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seeing as prog rock's been discounted *growl*, and most of my other tastes ('cept possibly Asia) probably wouldn't count.

I can't post anything.

Queens of the Stone Age


I'm not counting Kyuss

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Wrong. Check out Ride On from the Dirty Deeds Done Dirt cheap album. Great song, but I bet they've never played it live!

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Well, they haven't made ballads anyone has heard of. For example, if you put on guns n' roses at a party, there's always an idiot who wants to listen to sweet child of mine, knockin' on heavens door or don't cry. If you put on AC/DC, people will only want to hear thunderstruck, highway to hell, hail cæsar, shoot to thrill, etc etc...

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put on AC/DC, people will only want to hear thunderstruck, highway to hell, hail cæsar, shoot to thrill, etc etc...

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Better play dirty deeds and TNT first.:laugh4:
I still think Aerosmith has more good rockers.

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Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny

Better play dirty deeds and TNT first.:laugh4:
I still think Aerosmith has more good rockers.

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Agreed although I don't have really any favorites from AC/DC except for
"Back In Black"(Oakland Raider Fan). But I agree Aerosmith is a bit underrated and somewhat over looked because(from what I can tell anyways) they are usually compared to The Rolling Stones.

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But I agree Aerosmith is a bit underrated and somewhat over looked because(from what I can tell anyways) they are usually compared to The Rolling Stones.

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Must be Steven Tyler's lips.:laugh4:

The big difference being that they started a few years later but continued to produce great records into the next century. The stones ran out of gas in the early 80s and IMO are still living on their rep. However again. If you were to have a Band put together say a 20 or 25 song set of their best rockers the Stones are still hard to beat. Their 60's and 70's stuff rocked the house.

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Aerosmith, who have been performing as the original lineup for the past 23 years, have sold 150 million albums worldwide, 65.5 million albums in the United States alone, making them the bestselling American hard rock band of all time.[5] They also hold the record for the most gold, platinum, and multi-platinum albums by an American group.[6] The band has scored 27 Top 40 hits on multiple charts around the world, nine #1 Mainstream Rock hits, four Grammy awards, and ten Video Music Awards. They were inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 2001. They continue to tour and average one million dollars a show.[7] Their musical evolution over the years has made them major innovators in American hard rock, pop, glam, blues, and rap, and has inspired legions of rock artists that came after them. Their numerous contributions to other forms of media have further solidified their status as pop culture icons.
The band has a loyal fanbase numbering over a million worldwide, known as the Blue Army, that has equally spanned the last three generations.[11] Aerosmith's longevity, durability, and adaptability have allowed them to sustain high levels of popularity, acclaim, and success for the better part of the 37 years they have been active.

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AC/DC have sold more than 150 million albums worldwide, including more than 68 million albums in the U.S.[5] Back in Black has sold 42 million units worldwide, including 21 million in the U.S.,[6] making it the second-highest-selling album ever internationally, and the biggest-selling album by any band.[7] The band are ranked fourth on VH1's 100 Greatest Artists of Hard Rock.[8]

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Rock and Roll Hall of Fame induction
Brian Johnson (left) singing with Aerosmith's Steven Tyler in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
Brian Johnson (left) singing with Aerosmith's Steven Tyler in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

AC/DC were inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in March 2003. During the ceremony the band performed "Highway to Hell" and "You Shook Me All Night Long", with guest vocals provided by host Steven Tyler of Aerosmith. He described the band's power chords as "the thunder from down under that gives you the second-most-powerful surge that can flow through your body."[55]

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Its a tuff choice and I cant see how Aerosmith is being so totally ignored here. Most of AC/DCs thunder comes from Back in Black.

It is kind of funny how they managed to sell 5 million more records here than Aerosmith who is by this account the top selling band in US history. This however would mean the Aerosmith has sold more records around the rest of the world.

Now on to my claim that the Who invented hard rock

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Marshall Stacks

In the early and mid 1960s, Pete Townshend and John Entwistle were directly responsible for the creation and widespread use of stacked Marshall cabinets. Townshend later remarked that John started using Marshall Stacks in order to hear himself over Keith Moon's drums, and Pete himself also had to use them just to be heard over John.

In fact, the very first 100 watt Marshall amplifiers (called "Superleads") were created specifically for Entwistle and Townshend when they were looking to replace some equipment which had been stolen from them. Prior to the theft they were each using 50 watt amplifiers, Entwistle was using a Marshall JTM45 and Townshend had a Fender Bassman.

They approached Jim Marshall asking if it would be possible for him to make their new rigs more powerful than those they had lost, to which they were told that the speaker cabinets would have to double in size. They agreed and six rigs of this prototype were manufactured, of which two each were given to Townshend and Entwistle and one each to Ronnie Lane and Steve Marriott of The Small Faces. These new "double" cabinets proved too heavy and awkward to be transported practically, so The Who returned to Marshall asking if they could be cut in half and stacked, and although the double cabinets were left intact, the existing single cabinet models were modified for stacking, and has become the standard over the years. Due to the urgency of the situation, the amplifiers were simply modified versions of the existing 50 watt JTM45 model with the output valves doubled, and were thus named the JTM45-100.
Entwistle and Townshend both continued expanding and experimenting with their rigs, until (at a time when most bands still used 50–100W amplifiers with single cabinets) they were both using twin Stacks, with each Stack being driven by new experimental prototype 200W amplifiers (nicknamed "Pigs" for their extra grunt). This, in turn, also had a strong influence on the band's contemporaries at the time, with Cream and The Jimi Hendrix Experience both following suit. However, due to the cost of transport, The Who could not afford to take their full rigs with them for their earliest overseas tours; thus, Cream and Hendrix were the first to be seen to use this setup on a wide scale, particularly in America and London.

Ironically, although The Who pioneered and directly contributed to the development of the "classic" Marshall sound and setup with their equipment being built/tweaked to their personal specifications, by the time they could afford to transport their equipment overseas a couple of years later, they had stopped using Marshalls and moved on to Sound City (Hiwatt) equipment. Cream and particularly Hendrix would be widely miscredited with the invention of Marshall Stacks.[2][
Sound City and the invention of Hiwatt amplifiers

John Entwistle traded in his Marshall Stacks in favour of Sound City at the beginning of 1967, and Townshend followed later that year.

Around this time, Jimi Hendrix and his manager Chas Chandler approached Townshend asking for his opinion on amplification. He told them that he had stopped using Marshall as he thought Sound City were better. The Jimi Hendrix Experience subsequently started using Sound City rigs, but set them up together with their Marshall Stacks instead of replacing them. Cream also used Sound City alongside their Marshalls for their final "farewell" tour in 1968.

In late 1968 The Who approached Dallas Arbiter, the makers of Sound City, asking if their equipment could be modified slightly. This request was denied, but independent amp designer/manufacturer Dave Reeves, a former employee of Sound City, agreed and created customised Sound City L100 amplifiers under the name Hylight Electronics. This model was named the Hiwatt DR103, which would be modified in 1970 into the CP103 "Super Who 100" model which Townshend used almost exclusively for over a decade. In 1973 the updated DR103W model was created, which has been the central piece of equipment around which Townshend's various rigs have been built for the past thirty years.[3][4]

The use of Hiwatt amplifiers would later also be adopted by many rock guitarists, including David Gilmour of Pink Floyd and Eddie Vedder from Pearl Jam.

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Record sales are bad indacators of anything. Most of the music I listen to none of yall have ever heard becuase those exces in Nashville dont like Texas music.

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Record sales are bad indacators of anything. Most of the music I listen to none of yall have ever heard becuase those exces in Nashville dont like Texas music.

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And most of us dont like real country anyway. If not for Shania and Garth Brooks and the like mainstream America could care less. Was it you who named Thin Lizzy the best rock band? :laugh4: Record sales are an indication of how poular a band is not how good it is I will grant you. But the two are no mutaly exclusive and in fact tied very closely together. For me and many the Beatles are the best and they are the best sellers.

Skynyrd is the best. I dont even know who thin lizard is

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Skynyrd is the best. I dont even know who thin lizard is

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Their pretty damned good. What you dont like the Allman Bros or Marshal Tucker better? :laugh4: How about 38 Special? Anyway Im not big on southern rock. I must admit I love Skynrds reply to Neil Young.:laugh4:

And Gimme back my bullets is great and Gimme Three Steps cracks me up.

I forgot to mention Boston too. Funny thing is is that I get some of their songs mixed up with The Steve Miller Band's songs lol.

As for AC/DC I bought "Back in Black" for the title song 'cuz it's always played by my favorite American Football team, it was then I realized how kickass it was. Somebody asked me what I was listening to from my college soccer team while traveling, I told them AC/DC and they told me not to go and slit somebody's throat lol.

BTW, what are good Aerosmith and Rolling Stones CD's? One of my friends says that 40 Licks is okay but it's best to get their other cd's instead.

O yea, what do you guys think about Eric Clapton and Cream?

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Their pretty damned good. What you dont like the Allman Bros or Marshal Tucker better? :laugh4: How about 38 Special? Anyway Im not big on southern rock. I must admit I love Skynrds reply to Neil Young.:laugh4:

And Gimme back my bullets is great and Gimme Three Steps cracks me up.

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Its all about Freebird and Simple Man:smash:

I think Simple Man (imho) is one of the best songs ever made.

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BTW, what are good Aerosmith and Rolling Stones CD's? One of my friends says that 40 Licks is okay but it's best to get their other cd's instead.

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Well both have numerous greatest hit albums or are you looking for their best individual albums? For instance early Stone albums have tons of great stuff you will never see on those GH albums and the same for Aerosmith.

For Aerosmith Id go with Toys in the Attic,Pump and Get a Grip for starts.

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It was 1975's Toys in the Attic, however, that established Aerosmith as international stars competing with the likes of Led Zeppelin and The Rolling Stones. Originally derided as Rolling Stones knockoffs, Toys in the Attic showed that Aerosmith was a talented band in their own right, incorporating elements of blues, glam rock, heavy metal, punk music, psychedelia, and pop. Toys in the Attic was an immediate success, starting with the single "Sweet Emotion", which became the band's first Top 40 hit. This was followed by a successful re-release of "Dream On" which hit #6, becoming their best charting single of the 1970s. The 2nd song from the album, "Walk This Way", reached the Top 10 in early 1977.



1. Toys in the Attic
2. Uncle Salty
3. Adam's Apple
4. Walk This Way
5. Big Ten Inch Record
6. Sweet Emotion
7. No More No More
8. Round and Round
9. You See Me Crying

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PUMP

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1 Young Lust (4:18)
2 F.I.N.E. (4:09)
3 Going Down/Love in an Elevator (5:38)
4 Monkey on My Back (3:57)
5 Water Song/Janie's Got a Gun (5:38)
6 Dulcimer Stomp/The Other Side (4:56)
7 My Girl (3:10)
8 Don't Get Mad, Get Even (4:48)
9 Hoodoo/Voodoo Medicine Man (4:39)
10 What It Takes

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Get A grip

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Intro (:23)
2 Eat the Rich (4:09)
3 Get a Grip (3:58)
4 Fever (4:15)
5 Livin' on the Edge (6:20)
6 Flesh (5:56)
7 Walk on Down (3:37)
8 Shut Up and Dance (4:55)
9 Cryin' (5:08)
10 Gotta Love It (5:58)
11 Crazy (5:16)
12 Line Up (4:02)
13 Amazing (5:56)
14 Boogie Man

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Now the Stones maybe a little harder

Heres one of their better early albums

Aftermath. I prefer the US version as it includes Paint it Black

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US track listing

1. "Paint It, Black" – 3:45
2. "Stupid Girl" – 2:55
3. "Lady Jane" – 3:09
4. "Under My Thumb" – 3:41
5. "Doncha Bother Me" – 2:41
6. "Think" – 3:09
7. "Flight 505" – 3:27
8. "High And Dry" – 3:08
9. "It's Not Easy" – 2:56
10. "I Am Waiting" – 3:11
11. "Going Home" – 11:13

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One of my Favorite Stones albums and their answer to Pepper. Them at their most physcadelic

Their Satanic Majesties Request

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All songs by Mick Jagger and Keith Richards, except where noted.

1. "Sing This All Together" – 3:46
2. "Citadel" – 2:50
3. "In Another Land" (Bill Wyman) – 3:15
* The first appearance of a Bill Wyman song on an official Rolling Stones album. "Downtown Suzie" from Metamorphosis would be the second (and last) song written by Wyman to be recorded and released by the Stones
* Concludes with a recording of Wyman snoring
* Steve Marriott and Ronnie Lane of the Small Faces are featured on guitar and backing vocals
4. "2000 Man" – 3:07
* Featured in the Wes Anderson film "Bottle Rocket"
5. "Sing This All Together (See What Happens)" – 8:33
* Contains a hidden coda entitled "Cosmic Christmas"
6. "She's a Rainbow" – 4:35
* Strings arranged by John Paul Jones
7. "The Lantern" – 4:23
8. "Gomper" – 5:08
9. "2000 Light Years from Home" – 4:45
10. "On With The Show" – 3:39

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Let it Bleed

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All songs by Mick Jagger and Keith Richards, except where noted. The order in which track titles appeared on the back of the LP sleeve did not reflect their actual order of play -- not unusual in its day. The correct orders were shown on the record's label.

[edit] Side A

1. "Gimme Shelter" – 4:32
* Features Merry Clayton on backing vocals
2. "Love in Vain" (Robert Johnson) – 4:22
* Features Ry Cooder on mandolin
3. "Country Honk" – 3:10
* Country version of "Honky Tonk Women" Features Mick Taylor on guitar
4. "Live With Me" – 3:36
* Features both Leon Russell and Nicky Hopkins on piano with Keith Richards on bass and Mick Taylor on guitar
5. "Let It Bleed" – 5:34

[edit] Side B

1. "Midnight Rambler" – 6:57
* Features Brian Jones on percussion
2. "You Got the Silver" – 2:54
* Keith Richards' first solo lead vocal on a Rolling Stones song; Brian Jones plays autoharp
3. "Monkey Man" – 4:15
4. "You Can't Always Get What You Want" – 7:30
* Features producer Jimmy Miller on drums and Al Kooper on French horn, piano and organ

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Again I dont reccomend GH albums if you really want to see what a band is all about.

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Its all about Freebird and Simple Man

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I prefer Rocky Mountain way. Now Joe Walsh Rocks.:thrasher:

Hey and no one has mentioned ZZ Top yet.

zz top is ok. There really nothing special there act and texan good looks carried them instead of there music

It's the beards.

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As for AC/DC I bought "Back in Black" for the title song 'cuz it's always played by my favorite American Football team, it was then I realized how kickass it was.

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That was a bit of luck for you, because Back in Black belongs on anyones list of to[p ten albums ever, and no debate. If God's on the left, then I'm sticking to the right, classic stuff.

No one has yet mentioned the uber rock band of all time, Motorhead. And yes they are a rock band big G.

Rocket from the Crypt deserve a mention, and are the Pixies too alt to count?

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I forgot to mention Boston too. Funny thing is is that I get some of their songs mixed up with The Steve Miller Band's songs lol.

As for AC/DC I bought "Back in Black" for the title song 'cuz it's always played by my favorite American Football team, it was then I realized how kickass it was. Somebody asked me what I was listening to from my college soccer team while traveling, I told them AC/DC and they told me not to go and slit somebody's throat lol.

BTW, what are good Aerosmith and Rolling Stones CD's? One of my friends says that 40 Licks is okay but it's best to get their other cd's instead.

O yea, what do you guys think about Eric Clapton and Cream?

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Talking of Boston I found this...

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“I’ll never forget being in Boston,” Ozzy Osbourne tells Time Out. “This woman stops me and she goes, ‘Ozzy! What are you doing here in Boston?’ So I said, ‘I’m doing a show.’ Then she goes, ‘A show? What kind of a show?’ I said, ‘A rock’n’roll show,’ and she’s like, ‘Oh, you play music as well? Horrible, man’.”

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Thanks a lot Gawain of Orkeny. How do you come up with that stuff?!

I suppose Free don't count because they branched out into soul and experimental styles, but do Thin Lizzy count? They deserve to, anyway. A proper hard rock band, but with great melodies and some stunning lyrics. One of the greatest bands ever. RIP Philo! :afro:

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Thanks a lot Gawain of Orkeny. How do you come up with that stuff?!

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Its easy Im 59 and lived through it.:laugh4: Plus I work for a CD distributer. My brother owned his own recording studio and my Uncle was a studio musician for groups like the Shangrilas back in the 60s. Ive been into the music seen forever. I also work as a roadie somtimes. Ive worked with Pink Floyd, The Byrds, Deep Purple, Chicago, Mariah Carey. 10 years After and the Kinks to name a few. I also do WWE whenver it rolls into the Nassau Colosseum . I work for the local stage hands union. We also do Jones Beach. I see all the concerts I want for nothing and get to go backstage. At those two venues anyway. I dont get a seat but who cares :laugh4:

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O yea, what do you guys think about Eric Clapton and Cream?

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Best blues based band ever. Yes better than Zep. I remember when Clapton was touted as God:laugh4: Its still his best work IMO.

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...&ct=image&cd=1

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The phrase “Clapton is God” originated during Eric’s tenure with John Mayall’s Bluesbreakers. Eric was a member of the Bluesbreakers from April to late August 1965 and again from November 1965 to July 1966.

It was during this time that Eric first rose to prominence in the burgeoning British Blues scene. The phrase “Clapton is God” was spray painted on a wall in the Underground station in Islington in the mid-60s by an admirer. Islington is one of the many boroughs of the greater London Area.

The graffiti was captured in a now-famous photograph. Helped by the photo, the legend grew. It is now commonly believed that graffiti proclaiming “Clapton is God” could be seen all over the walls of the London Underground system during the mid- to late-60s. This was definitely not the case!

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Another great band.

That's hella cool Gwain. As for Clapton and Cream being better than the Zep. I have always looked at them differentially. Clapton and Cream more along Blues while Zep being more of a rock band.

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I also work as a roadie somtimes. Ive worked with Pink Floyd, The Byrds, Deep Purple, Chicago, Mariah Carey. 10 years After and the Kinks to name a few. .

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10 years after!? The Byrds!? The Kinks!? Mariah Ca!? Deep purple!? Woah!