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Originally Posted by Fragony
Oh aren't you the Pasha :beam:
Not worried about the PS3, it has few games but in a year or two the 360 is a poor man's pc and the PS3 a real console. Going to wait for the price to drop, PS3 gets almost every game that's released on the 360 and has a few exclusives of it's own, and it's a much better looking machine, and most importantly it's silent and it stays cool. 360 is such an ugly machine, need some looks next to my way to awesome beovision.
Actually the ps3 may be silent, but it takes more power, make sure it is also on a cool surface (like marble), i had it on a wooden table before and it left a nasty mark on it due to its heating problems (also games seem to crash for no reason when it heats up). I had no problems when i put it on the ground though.
It may be just my environment (which is generally hot when the AC is not on ~;p) but that thing is pretty power hungry. On another note, i also discovered the 360 needs to be standing vertically if you ever want to avoid its hardware problems, so yeah ~;p
Last but not least, the PS3 has an inferior texturing power, so its kinda a bit more crappy compared to the xbox 360 graphically. I'm sure graphics doesn't matter for you though, the PS3 has alot of potential and this E3 excited me alot more but i still suggest you keep the 360 for a long while before you decide to trade.
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Originally Posted by Marius Dynamite
Even Mighty Marius can't afford a 20 euro game a week :sweatdrop: but it takes Marius at most a week to extracts everything from a PS2 game. 5 Games a year on 360 does Marius fine :2thumbsup:
Well, if you've played the 'classics' then there might only be average games left. The 360 doesn't seem to have any 'must have' games at the moment, and few things that interest me coming up (those that do are multi platform).
Personally if I *had* to get a next gen console I'd probably go for the Wii, and in the long run I'd still put my money on the PS3 (exclusives ! Microsoft is focussing on Games for Windows too, which means even gears isn't an exclusive anymore).
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I'm still enjoying unranked Gears of War with the same 7 guys I was playing with in January. Other than that, I play Call of Duty 3 ranked and soon I'll begin playing GRAW 2 online, which I bought when it was released.
However now that I think about it, I really do despise microsoft to the point where I'll try not to buy any of their products when there is another option. They just grab money so much. I mean, £40 a year for Xbox live isn't too bad, because its a top class service, but they make developers make you PAY for map packs for almost every game. For Gears of war the first 2 maps where free because the discovery channel paid for them, but the next 4 we had to pay for. Cliffy B wanted them to be free, but Microsoft said charge them or no release. £10 for 4 maps where I bought the actual game for £40? Thats just insane and moneygrabbin. :thumbsdown: All of you guys don't buy a 360, get a PS3. :smash: :yes:
Re: Seems like the 360 is a stinker.
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Originally Posted by Marius Dynamite
I'm still enjoying unranked Gears of War with the same 7 guys I was playing with in January. Other than that, I play Call of Duty 3 ranked and soon I'll begin playing GRAW 2 online, which I bought when it was released.
However now that I think about it, I really do despise microsoft to the point where I'll try not to buy any of their products when there is another option. They just grab money so much. I mean, £40 a year for Xbox live isn't too bad, because its a top class service, but they make developers make you PAY for map packs for almost every game. For Gears of war the first 2 maps where free because the discovery channel paid for them, but the next 4 we had to pay for. Cliffy B wanted them to be free, but Microsoft said charge them or no release. £10 for 4 maps where I bought the actual game for £40? Thats just insane and moneygrabbin. :thumbsdown: All of you guys don't buy a 360, get a PS3. :smash: :yes:
Ah shooters, that explains why you like the 360 so much :jester:
Sony is possibly worse than microsoft, 600€ console (with some features missing in Europe), 80€ games (20€ more than 360 games and twice as high as PC games, what the hell ?) and more than likely a controller that does feature the rumble feature in the future, so everyone will buy that too.
Actually, the whole point of consoles is to create a monopoly, so nobody should be surprised when stuff like this happens. :furious3:
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Yeah, consoles are communism(everybody gets the same, only some get less).
Long live PCs!
I mean now that consoles come close to the capabilities of PCs(though I don't know whether Word is available for the 360), they also start entering the same price range, despite the fact that you pay more for the software anyway. Since you can get console-like controllers for PCs for quite some time, there shouldn't be much of a reason to prefer a console over a PC, PCs can do most of the things consoles can do(probably even all of the things consoles can do) and more. If you buy an office PC for office stuff and a console for gaming, you could just as well buy a gaming PC since then you get one machine which can do both.:shrug:
Maybe PCs require a bit more work to maintain but just wait for the first console viruses when you will have to send it back to the manufacturer for two weeks of maintenance until you can use it again. ~;)
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If there ever needs convincing that a 360 is a great console, I just need to remind you of two things:
Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
Marvel: Ultimate Alliance (and the Gold edition)
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Looks like Microsoft came clean about the bad design:
Microsoft has admitted that every one of the 11.6 million Xbox 360 consoles sold in the past 19 months suffers from a design flaw that could cause the device to fail.
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Originally Posted by Husar
there shouldn't be much of a reason to prefer a console over a PC
I tend to find gaming on a console more fun though, when you work with a computer all day you don't really want to use one again for entertainment. And consoles do get more and arguably more diverse games. There's also no need to worry about compatibility issues and less of an issue with bugs. There have been several PC games where I spent more than a day getting them to work. The extra cost of console games then seems like a small issue compared to losing precious free time (at the times when it's actually precious, I either seem to have way too much or way too little).
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I, too, am a fan of PC gaming. I'd rather kill myself than see the death of PC gaming. Play a first-person shooter on the PC multiplayer, and then play it on a console multiplayer. I will guarantee you that your reflexes and accuracy will be a whole lot better with a mouse than it is with an analog stick.
Plus, one thing that PC games have that consoles don't is the huge modding community. Finished a game on the console? Take it back to the gaming store for a trade-in. Finished a game on the PC? Look online for mods to enhance it and play it again.
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Originally Posted by doc_bean
I tend to find gaming on a console more fun though, when you work with a computer all day you don't really want to use one again for entertainment.
That's a different issue, you should hate the work, not the computer you use to do it. ~;)
Concerning the amount of work computers need, I think I mentioned that, they tend to be more work because they offer more diversity. And the amount of games available for PCs could be the same as for consoles, there is nothing about a Pc that makes it impossible, the developers just don't create PC versions. You could say the same about Word and consoles but with such programs, consoles would become more like PCs again.
Things like the Wii controllers could've been made for Pcs for quite some time if anyone had wanted to make them I guess, Track IR is around for some years already though the technology is completely different from a Wii controller, it shows that Pcs can use non-standard controllers as well, someone "just" has to create a decive and a driver, I'm not sure whether that is possible with older consoles as well. Modern consoles are, like I said, closer to PCs anyway.
And while you have a problem with time, I have more of a problem with money, so I prefer cheaper games.
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Originally Posted by Husar
That's a different issue, you should hate the work, not the computer you use to do it. ~;)
I don't hate the work or the computer, I just have a harder time relaxing when using a computer to play games after working on it all day. I know many people who feel the same.
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Concerning the amount of work computers need, I think I mentioned that, they tend to be more work because they offer more diversity. And the amount of games available for PCs could be the same as for consoles, there is nothing about a Pc that makes it impossible, the developers just don't create PC versions. You could say the same about Word and consoles but with such programs, consoles would become more like PCs again.
I'm not denying that, but producing for consoles is just more profitable.
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Things like the Wii controllers could've been made for Pcs for quite some time if anyone had wanted to make them I guess,
Track IR is around for some years already though the technology is completely different from a Wii controller, it shows that Pcs can use non-standard controllers as well, someone "just" has to create a decive and a driver, I'm not sure whether that is possible with older consoles as well. Modern consoles are, like I said, closer to PCs anyway.
All true of course, though new perhipals tend to fail miserably on the PC.
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And while you have a problem with time, I have more of a problem with money, so I prefer cheaper games.
I got a ps2 for christmas and buy 20€ platinum games now, not exactly expensive.
I'm not saying console gaming is better or worse than PC gaming, they're different, and both are good :2thumbsup:
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I do think the attractiveness of the 360 is to an extent dependant on your location. In the US it's essentially an older console. It's a little more mature. More titles, better online service, cheaper. In addition Microsoft don't seem to have built up quite such a reputation for bad customer service as they have here in the UK.
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Originally Posted by Kekvit Irae
Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
There's going to be a PSP edition. It won't have missing sound effects, and it will have a snazzy version of Rondo of Blood on the UMD too. For the sake of argument, there's also the original PS1 version out there for those with more money than sense.
If I had a 360 I'd get this game within an hour of setting the console up, but it won't push me towards getting one. None of the handful of downloadable games I want will. It's just not worth paying in the region of £270 for a console plus £60 for the wireless doodad so it can access my connection simply to play a few downloadables which cost ... I think it's around £5. Sure there's games I want coming out in the future. By the time they arrive the console might be cheaper, and the Falcon version may be on shelves. Microsoft might have sorted out the backwards compatability by then too.
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Marvel: Ultimate Alliance (and the Gold edition)
What about it?
Come Christmas the 360 is more likely to appeal to a frog, assuming all those nice RPGs and quirky Katamari type games are available. The Falcon version of the console should be on shelves about the same time, hopefully with a price cut. At that point it will be mighty attractive.
Probably a good thing the next gen does presently appeal, all in all. My to-play pile is massive. :sweatdrop:
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What about it?
It's a beat-em-up. You probably wouldn't like it, what with you drowning in an ocean of cookie-cutter Japanese RPGs. :tongueg:
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I don't own any current gen consoles, and just packed up all 3 of my last gen ones a few months ago due to disuse... The one friend of mine who did buy a Xbrick360 is on his 6th console, no joke. :rolleyes: Yeah, like I'm gonna jump on that, and most all of the games I want to play are already on PC as well. Meh, I'll wait until stuff hits the bargain bin along with the Lemster.
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It's a beat-em-up. You probably wouldn't like it, what with you drowning in an ocean of cookie-cutter Japanese RPGs. :tongueg:
~:( I was hoping you'd say "It's like Freedom Force, if you ever played that." The world needs more humorous weird semi-strategic superhero games.
I don't have the reflexes to be good at fighting games, nor really the patience to spend hours learning moves and practicing.
Drowning? Only half my collection comprises of RPGs of one sort or another. That's up to my chin :tongueg: :winkg:
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Actually, it is like Freedom Force. It's a top-down platformer. Light attack on the A button and heavy attack on the B button (ABA for trip attacks, ABB for stuns, AAB for popups). Then you've got your superhero/villian powers mapped to the RT. It's very easy, and very engrossing.
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Originally Posted by Kekvit Irae
Actually, it is like Freedom Force. It's a top-down platformer. Light attack on the A button and heavy attack on the B button (ABA for trip attacks, ABB for stuns, AAB for popups). Then you've got your superhero/villian powers mapped to the RT. It's very easy, and very engrossing.
So you got the new hero and villain content packs them? The idea of fighting Dr. Doom as Dr. Doom is amusing. I'm working on unlocking the last secret character (Silver Surfer) and the rest of the alternate costumes. Which means I gotta play as the lamer characters like Electra and Moon Knight.
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Originally Posted by lars573
So you got the new hero and villain content packs them? The idea of fighting Dr. Doom as Dr. Doom is amusing. I'm working on unlocking the last secret character (Silver Surfer) and the rest of the alternate costumes. Which means I gotta play as the lamer characters like Electra and Moon Knight.
I have the Gold edition, which is the game + the hero/villain packs. No downloading needed.
I am amused at the banter between HeroDoom and BossDoom at the end of the game (and nets you an achievement).
But the best conversation in the entire game is the one between Deadpool and Dark Spider-Man. Online dating sites ftw!
I like Silver Surfer since he's the only character who has an actual direct healing power. But my favorites are Deadpool and Black Panther. Deadpool's buff gives you +20-30 damage per hit, and his Gun Fire power is rapid shot. It doesn't take a degree to figure out that this combination is a boss killer. I can get a good 400 damage with Black Panther's Claw Slash power with Attuma's Wrath item (+25% power damage). When Deadpool's power runs out, I switch to Black Panther.
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Originally Posted by frogbeastegg
Microsoft might have sorted out the backwards compatability by then too.
Haven't they stopped working on that completely ?
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Originally Posted by Kekvit Irae
Actually, it is like Freedom Force. It's a top-down platformer. Light attack on the A button and heavy attack on the B button (ABA for trip attacks, ABB for stuns, AAB for popups). Then you've got your superhero/villian powers mapped to the RT. It's very easy, and very engrossing.
Hmm. Potentially hopeful. What about it makes it such a standout title in your opinion?
Does it have the same amount of humour? Superheroes are something I struggle to tolerate if its straight-faced. They’re too absurd.
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Haven't they stopped working on that completely ?
I saw a news headline for a big update to the PAL console's BC a few days ago. Something in the region of 80 titles added or tweaked.
They'd better not give up - there's still a lot of good games left which won't work. Beyond Good and Evil being one I see a lot muttering about.
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Hmm. Potentially hopeful. What about it makes it such a standout title in your opinion?
Simple fun Action RPG. That's what makes it stand out.
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Does it have the same amount of humour? Superheroes are something I struggle to tolerate if its straight-faced. They’re too absurd.
It plays close to the Marvel characters. Meaning Spider-man cracks wise all the time (usually taking shots at Wolverine). Deadpool will say random stupidness. I'm biased though, I hate Deadpool. Captain America walks around with a stick up his arse. Thor talks like he's in Shaekspear play.
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Originally Posted by frogbeastegg
Hmm. Potentially hopeful. What about it makes it such a standout title in your opinion?
Does it have the same amount of humour? Superheroes are something I struggle to tolerate if its straight-faced. They’re too absurd.
Humor can be mostly found if you have Deadpool as an active character. His usual wisecracks and fourth-wall-breaking from the comics translates well in the game. Like I said, the best quotes in the game come from his solo mission, where Dark Spider-Man prefers to have a casual chat with Deadpool about online dating sites than fight him.
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Arcade: Hello, Deadpool. Ready for a fun filled day in Murderworld?
Deadpool: Yup. I've got my sunscreen on and I've taken my motion sickness pills so bring on the rides.
Arcade: Oh, I don't think you understand. You're going to die here.
Deadpool: I know. Carnivals always slay me.
Arcade: No. You are going to physically die... as in stop breathing. You will cease to exist.
Deadpool: Riiiiight... so do you have bumper cars here?
Arcade: Arrrgh!
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Deadpool: Hey, did I enter the side show tent? Cause you look like the dog faced boy.
Dark Spider-Man: Oh, you are a wit, Deadpool... or at least half of one. Tell me, do the chicks go for your insane babble?
Deadpool: About as much as they go for your attempts at self deprecating humor.
Dark Spider-Man: So then it doesn't work.
Deadpool: No, not at all. But I've found an online dating service that's really good.
Dark Spider-Man: Cool. What's it called?
Arcade: Would you please get busy and destroy him, Spider-Man?
Dark Spider-Man: Oh... yeah. Sorry. Guess I'll have to kill you now.
Deadpool: Okay. But I'm really gonna miss me when I'm gone.
What stands out for me is the mass amount of unlockable characters and costumes (different costumes give different bonuses) and replay value. You've got 33 characters (360 version) to choose from for your four-(wo)man party, which gives you a lot of customization. If you pick classic Marvel lineups, such as Mr Fantastic, Invisible Woman, Thing, and Human Torch (Fantastic Four), you'll get a party-wide bonus for as long as you keep that lineup. You can switch out characters at access/save points. You can even create your own team and earn reputation points as you defeat bosses and complete quests, which will earn you skill points you can put in team-wide bonuses such as +Health or +Damage. Anyone in your four-person lineup who isn't in your team does not get these bonuses.
You might enjoy it because it's a fun game for casual players. No need for long XP grinds to build up a character to have fun, the action starts from the first level and continues on to the end.
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Sounds like it might be frog compatible. I'll remember the title and take a look for it if/when I get the necessary console.
