One for France - cheese-eating surrender monkeys. This special unit will prolong a surrender so as to give France time to change all the banners on its units to those of an invading nation.
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One for France - cheese-eating surrender monkeys. This special unit will prolong a surrender so as to give France time to change all the banners on its units to those of an invading nation.
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Tea Ship Attackers - something like the Hounds of Culann, they go berserk when they see tea ships
King George III
insists on following his directions when dealing with rebels
Nepoleon- able to lose big battles and still come back as leader of faction
Time traveling dragon mounted viking air raids for the Lair faction
The 3rd Foot & Mouth, feared through out the Kyber Pass for what lurks beneath their kilts.
:thumbsdown: Ah, yes, I remember that one. That's the one that makes all those British victories meaningless and those who won them muppets. Makes you wonder why they bothered calling a train station "Waterloo" doesn't it?:wall:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikeus Caesar
Zerglings
Need I say more
Which does of course mean that Britain has to have Monkey Hangers, only recruitable in north east England, render French naval units inoperative with incredulous laughter...Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikeus Caesar
Why, he was a spy man!Quote:
Originally Posted by Flavius Clemens
grenadiers, which did exist, but they actually will use the grenades and have ridiculously long range attack and will be taken seriously in their silly hats.
Or they'll be given grenade launchers and bullet proof vest!, and silly hats.~DQuote:
Originally Posted by Tiberius of the Drake
Early grenadiers DID use grenades...and some did up until the Napoleonic Wars. They looked like stereotypical cartoon bombs and tended to explode while you were holding them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tiberius of the Drake
The reason Grenadier units selected tall and strong men was 'cause they needed the extra height and strength to chuck those grenades, which were quite heavy. I think some weighed eight or nine pounds, if I remember.
I imagine fantasy units will be on the lines of things like the Tsar Cannon, which is this lovely three-foot bore diameter cannon in Russia that was never actually used.
I imagine we'll see 'native mercenaries' in America, as if the Spanish would recruit feather-wearing Aztecs into their armies in the 1700's.
Stuff like that, really.
Thank you, that made my night :laugh4:Quote:
Originally Posted by Daveybaby
Also, and obviously : the French Imperial Guard, a musketeer unit which can't shoot unless shot at first. "Messieurs les anglais, tirez les premiers !".
Or maybe Battle Guillotines, anyone ? :)
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Wow, cool, amazing!!
We've been trawling through all those big dull history books :book: and that internet thingy :lam: :google:
But this has just saved us loooooooads of time.:idea2:
Think we'll use all of these:2thumbsup:
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oh u
Do us a favor and include these guys:
https://img231.imageshack.us/img231/...cavalrypx0.jpg
Russia just isnt complete without BEAR CAVALRY
:dizzy2: Hmmm, okay, if you say they're from the period. I didnt know they had AK47's back then.:clown:
They're definitely in! :clown:Quote:
Originally Posted by antisocialmunky
Armoured Air Balloons - I remember seing a hot-air balloon in Cossacks once, so I expect to see armoured bomb-dropping hot-air balloons. They will feature much like Kirovs in Red Alert 2.
Sami Riflemen - because they were such a warlike people ever since they fought with their great axes in medieval times. Perhaps also a Berserker unit to complement these?
Turtle Ships - don't know much about them, but if you include the Far East maybe these should really be included.
Flamethrowers - the natural evolvement of greek fire units, used to force infantry out of garrisoned buildings.
War Elephants - come in several forms, including cannons, riflemen, flamethrowers, and saboteur (barrels of gunpowder strapped to them). Obviously Mughal commanders will ride elephants, and will be able to call an Armoured Air Balloon strike from atop them.
Ak-47's AND PPsH 41's. See, the 47/41 was refering to FOURTEEN fourtyseven/fourtyone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Intrepid Sidekick
BEAR CAVALRY! Also, penguin infantry to the first person to discover the south pole.
Funny because I can't tell from playing your games... :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by Intrepid Sidekick
But in all seriousness, as a history grad student, I would love to get a look at the reading list that is used to research these games.
And to keep the thread on topic, any large piece of artillery mounted on any animal would be more than enough to keep me amused for hours.
Exploding sheep would be cool too. Why should people who play the "Worms" games have all the fun? :clown:
Where did u get the picture of the bear cav?
The internet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andejar
I think you lot have been spending to much time reading Whitedwarf mags or in Gamesworkshops.CA and their TW games are about historical acccuracy.
Ninja's did exist in Japanese history,Assassin's did exist worldwide and in the far east there were cult's or assassin organisations.So please CA keep it historical as it was in the past and no or ni to fantasy units......no killer white rabbit's with ferocious teeth......no knight's who say Ni,Ni,Ni......and no black knight itching for a fight "it's only a flesh wound.....come back ya coward".
Oh and by the way there were battalion guns....3pdrs or small howitzers which were manhandled by small crews.
No silly billy's Please!!!:dizzy2:
HA HA HA I like the mounted russians on bears......good pic,but I've never seen bears That Big.
Well mentioned Sheogorath on the grenadiers of the period hurling grenades.
Anyone wanting to see this goto YOU TUBE website where you can watch the video on the Battle of Poltava
Polar and several species of Brown Bears can get up to eight feet at the shoulder.
A few moments on Google yields this:
http://tim.blogware.com/Bear/Bear.jpg
Bears get BIG.
Just a warning:
There is some blood in that pic, but no more than you'd see in a boxing match.
And you should mention that that video is horrendously innacurate. Like I said in the topic where it was posted...very much a product of the Russian nationalist cinema.
The idea that TW games are in any way historically accurate is simply laughable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Frederick the Great
But to be fair, their games are not meant to be historically accurate. Which is why I always roll my eyes when people complain about units not being "period" such as hornet chuckers or flame throwers. TW games are meant to be fun. And in that, they succeed. I play computer games for the same reason I watch movies, and that is to be entertained. I don't do either to learn about history. For that, I read a book. And even that is problematic.
Headless Hessian Cav the best so far.
18th century fantasy units I'd like to see:
British wagon-mounted rocket units. I know they had the Congreves, but IIRC they were late, ineffective experimental units. My ideal rocket unit would be a war-winning uber-weapon with unparrallelled range and accuracy. Also when you win an Heroic victory it would discharge its final round into a glorious fireworks display.
Hungarian Vampire Insurrectio. Cause fear and increase in strength as the opposition loses men. Unfortunate penalties for non-night-time battles.
Turkish Camel-mounted Eunuch artillery: extremely ineffective, constantly firing blanks. Causes sympathy and wincing in onlookers, and able to ride long distances without apparent soreness.
French Colonial "Wolf-Brother" Native American Ninjas. Combat bonus vs yokels and
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Late period Bartix irregulars (sorry, EB gag).
Napoleonic Old Guard with a "Grumble" button that does nothing really, just activates a sound effect that makes them say "Merde" "sacre bleue" and "Oh, like, Magnifique....not!" in a really sarcastic tone.
18th century fantasy I expect to see:
American soldiers that can beat British regulars without French help.
Really big cheap Russian infantry units that stand around waiting for their opponents to freeze to death.
Unbreakable Redcoats (vulnerable to Americans only)
Horse artillery that fires on the move.
The Russians had more of a reputation as 'unbreakable' than the British, really. The Redcoats were SOFT compared to the Ruskies.
Horse artillery that fires on the move...kinda like the Panzerphants?
Yes that was what the French noticed at Borodino etc, but the myth about Russian forces in many eras is they were basically peasants herded into line to be shot down until the enemy ran out of bullets and then froze.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sheogorath
Its true at times this was the Russian approach, but not vs Napoleon when they fought extremely bravely and took a lot of killing.
More like chariot mounted ballistae, but yeah, you get the picture.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sheogorath
Could you print the internet for me so I can browse it later?:book:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sheogorath