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Yup, seriously.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tribesman
I have grounds, personal experiences over decades, no doubt there might be a couple who are decent. However, I've never met one in over 40 years.
Just anecdotal of course, and certainly not the way I've found Pakistanis, Indians, etc etc...
OK, from what I've gathered, some of you have not spent enough time with people whose skin color is different from yours.
Also, to those who think you need to be "vigilant" if you see a Muslim youth on a bus, please explain to me how vigilance will assist you on the off chance he decides to go boom?
What about scousers , do you check your wallet there too ?Quote:
Yup, seriously.
Are you kidding? I've lived in Skem and got some good mates in Walton. I check me watch 'round there when I make a right turn! :laugh4:Quote:
Originally Posted by Tribesman
However, it's one Lancastrian, to another, that's not racist. :juggle2:
Neither is the antipahy to the travellers, just anecdotal evidence as I said.
[that doesn't make it any less true though]
But in essence isn't it the same Apache .
Taking thoughts or experiences about individuals from any grouing and applying them to the whole group .
If they're outside your monkeysphere, it'smonkeyhuman nature.
But there, although I can see what you are saying, you go too far. Generalising from experience is what humans do. Its called learning.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tribesman
Leave race out of it. You go into two pubs. One is full of 18 and 19 year old boys (Oh, Ok men) in football tops. Two different types of football top. The other has a meeting of the local Darby and Joan club going on. Question: In which pub are you more likely to be glassed?
Sure, the 18-19 year olds might in fact all be Jehovah's witnesses, and the old dears might in fact be relatives of the Krays, but that's not the way to bet. Is it?
The real point is that you aren't LIKELY to be glassed in either case. But there's no point trying to argue that the (very small) chance of a glassing isn't higher when there are young lads about.
But surely the learning experience is not to generalise .Quote:
But there, although I can see what you are saying, you go too far. Generalising from experience is what humans do. Its called learning.
You picked a couple of bad examples there though . It isn't the 18-19 year old soccer crowd that is dodgy , its the older soccer crowd that are the real dodgy ones . But then again they both tend to stick it to opposing fans not just someone who walked into the pub . Both times I have been glassed and all the times apart from two that I have seen people glassed it has been in normal mixed clientel pubs or social clubs , often family friendly places , not pubs full of youngsters .
Now the reason I asked the initial question to Banquo stems from a couple of weeks back .
I was in my local and someone mentioned that a pub in the square had re-opened , which of course raised the question "whats it like ?" The responses would not be allowable under forum rules but equate roughly with "you woudn't want to set foot near the place because of who drinks there"....of course under such sage advice I finished my drink and went straight up there .
It was both funny and sad to see peoples reactions when they entered that pub .