Former Iranian President: "Hitler Saved Europe from the Jews"

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Originally Posted by Beefy187

he might have caught some of the members who plan a new world order. But at the same time he killed countless innocent people all over the world.

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Care to enlighten us ignorant Orgah on what infomation you have gathered about this NWO? :book:

It is actually pretty easy to shoot some rather glaring holes in the traditionally held beliefs about the Holocaust.


As for this thread... Thanks Baba Ga'on and Fragony for translation help. :daisy: Next time I'll look for different translations before posting. :oops:

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Originally Posted by PanzerJager

It is actually pretty easy to shoot some rather glaring holes in the traditionally held beliefs about the Holocaust.

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And which might those be?

And what exactly does "traditionally held beliefs about the Holocaust" cover, anyway ?

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And which might those be?

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And what exactly does "traditionally held beliefs about the Holocaust" cover, anyway ?

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Well on those rather likeable sites available on the internet it goes something like ...
"people say Hitler gassed 6 million Jews at Auschwitz ..Hilter didn't gas 6 million Jews at Auschwitz...so the holocaust is a lie"

The threat to Iranian Jews must be getting worse .
Not only does the Israeli government andits agencies offer Iranian Jews 3 times the amount of cash that it offers to anyone else who makes Aliya , but the Chicago based International Fellowship of Christians and Jews has now doubled its cash payments for people who are willing to move from Iran to Israel .
It appears that some people really really don't want Jews in Iran .

Panzer is not a denier. He has some...peculiar ideas about fascism, but denial is not one of them.

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Originally Posted by Tribesy

the Chicago based International Fellowship of Christians and Jews has now doubled its cash payments for people who are willing to move from Iran to Israel .
It appears that some people really really don't want Jews in Iran .

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I am very much opposed to that. If they want to aid them, or fear for their future security, then fine. But as a policy, I'd rather they didn't. How many more Jewish communities must disappear? :shame:

Maybe the Israelis don't want any Jews in the fallout zone. :inquisitive:

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Originally Posted by Tribesman

The threat to Iranian Jews must be getting worse .
Not only does the Israeli government andits agencies offer Iranian Jews 3 times the amount of cash that it offers to anyone else who makes Aliya , but the Chicago based International Fellowship of Christians and Jews has now doubled its cash payments for people who are willing to move from Iran to Israel .
It appears that some people really really don't want Jews in Iran .

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Appears to me that someone really wants Israeli's to be bad and Iranians to be good. I am not a fan of Israel but it's better then being a fan of regime of Iran imho.

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Appears to me that someone really wants Israeli's to be bad and Iranians to be good.

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Really ?
Who would that be then ?

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I am not a fan of Israel but it's better then being a fan of regime of Iran imho.

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Yes frag:dizzy2:

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Originally Posted by Tribesman

Really ?
Who would that be then ?

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No idea who he is, nobody here does. But he does seem to take every chance he gets to bash Israel and never misses a chance to enlighten us about Iran and it's complexities, or any other nation that is anti-western. Good nose needs only half a fart.

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Originally Posted by AntiochusIII

And which might those be?

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Its all on the internet if you really want to waste your time. Most of it is crap but some people have made some strong arguements on numbers, responsibility and concrete proof. Needless to say, a good defence attourney would have plenty of material at his disposal.

Thats as far as I'll take it, as I said, denial arguements are rather easy to find. I have actually done a lot of research on the subject and I believe it happened the way in which it is represented today. Whether it was 6 million or 5.85 million doesn't change the intent from Hitler down through the regime.


As for tribes' latest... wiki has this to say:

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Like other religious minorities in Iran Jews suffer from discrimination, particularly in the areas of employment, education, and housing. According to the U.S. Department of State, Jews may not occupy senior positions in the government or the military and are prevented from serving in the judiciary and security services and from becoming public school heads.[36]

The anti‑Israel policies of the Iranian government, along with a perception among radical Muslims that all Jewish citizens support the State of Israel, create a hostile atmosphere for the Jewish community. In 2004, many Iranian newspapers celebrated the one-hundredth anniversary of the publishing of the anti-Semitic forgery The Protocols of the Elders of Zion.[36] Jews are often the target of degrading caricatures in the Iranian press.[citation needed] Jewish leaders reportedly are reluctant to draw attention to official mistreatment of their community due to fear of government reprisal.[36]

However, in a rather unprecedented move, the sole Jewish member in the Iranian parliament, Maurice Motamed, strongly condemned exhibition of cartoons about the Holocaust that recently took place in Tehran, and he has also written a letter to Iran’s president questioning his denial of the Holocaust, calling it "a very big insult to Jews all around the world."[14]

The legal system discriminates against religious minorities, who receive lower awards than Muslims in injury and death lawsuits and incur stiffer punishments. In 2002, a law was passed that made the amount of "blood money" (diyeh) paid by a perpetrator for killing or wounding a Christian, Jew, or Zoroastrian man the same as it would be for killing or wounding a Muslim.[36]


Former president Khatami visits a Tehran Jewish center.With some exceptions, there is little restriction of or interference with the Jewish religious practice; however, education of Jewish children has become more difficult in recent years. The Iranian government reportedly allows Hebrew instruction, recognizing that it is necessary for Jewish religious practice. However, it strongly discourages the distribution of Hebrew texts, in practice making it difficult to teach the language. Moreover, the Iranian government has required that several Jewish schools remain open on Saturdays, the Jewish Sabbath, in conformity with the schedule of other schools in the school system. Since working or attending school on the Sabbath violates Jewish law, this requirement has made it impossible for observant Jews both to attend school and adhere to a fundamental tenet of their religion.[36]

Jewish citizens are permitted to obtain passports and to travel outside the country, but they often are denied the multiple-exit permits normally issued to other citizens. With the exception of certain business travelers, the authorities require Jewish persons to obtain clearance and pay additional fees before each trip abroad. The Iranian government is concerned about the emigration of Jewish citizens and permission generally is not granted for all members of a Jewish family to travel outside the country at the same time.[36]

In 2000, 10 of 13 Jews arrested in 1999 were convicted on charges of illegal contact with Israel, conspiracy to form an illegal organization, and recruiting agents. Along with two Muslim defendants, the 10 Jews received prison sentences ranging from 4 to 13 years. An appeals court subsequently overturned the convictions for forming an illegal organization and recruiting agents, but it upheld the convictions for illegal contacts with Israel with reduced sentences. One of the 10 was released in February 2001 and another in January 2002, both upon completion of their prison terms. Three additional prisoners were released before the end of their sentences in October 2002. In April 2003, it was announced that the last five were to be released. It is not clear if the eight who were released before the completion of their sentences were fully pardoned or were released provisionally.[36] Even though anti-Semitic acts are rare in Iran, the trial led to the rising of tensions against the Jewish community. [citation needed] During and shortly after the trial, Jewish businesses in Tehran and Shiraz were targets of vandalism and boycotts, and Jewish persons reportedly have suffered personal harassment and intimidation.[36]

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