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Originally Posted by Tellos Athenaios
I've checked and Letontu the Fat (fka Oxthracoi) was recorded to have died in 166 BC. He's probably the cause.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mouzafphaerre
Suggestion:
If the client rulers' names can be any name then make alien names (Hellene, Gaul, Romani and Tsori?) to the faction's roster.
If the client rulers' names need to be in the faction's name list then tag them as Letontu_client etc.
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In game weirdness. No really: it's the default thing a general does after traveling and having run out of 'movement points'. So if either of the general cannot travel further than this particular spot...Quote:
Originally Posted by I Am Herenow
Dunno.Quote:
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a) [Not technically a bug]. This character (who, I believe, is the Faction Leader of Makedonia at the start of the game) is both a Moderate Drinker and an Occasional Drinker. What is the point of having two groups traits that convey basically the same thing (i.e. how much one drinks and the regularity of their drinking sessions)?
And that should've been "a covered version", I suppose.Quote:
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a) A word is missing after the word "covered".
:gah2:Quote:
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a) The Eleutheroi Family Member who is in Thermon at the start of the game (I believe) has a Peasant unit card for his bodyguard unit.
:grin: Yeah, I think your assumption would be correct.Quote:
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a) [Not technically a bug]. As the word in brackets after a building's or unit's description is meant to be in English, I suggest changing "Gymnasion (Gymnasion)" to "Gymnasion (Gymnasium)" or "Gymnasion (Excercise Area)" or something similar, as "gymnasion" is not a word in English; and, moreover, if the player doesn't understand what "Gymnasion" means when they read it as a transliteration from Greek, reading the same word again will not help them!
What's the English for 'contaminatie'? A proper mix up.Quote:
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a) "The Medieval ages" should be changed either to "medieval times" or "the Middle Ages".
Yup.Quote:
b) This phrase does not make sense: it must be changed accordingly (for example, by changing the word "defences" to "armour).
c) There should not be a comma here.
d) "Bronzen" should be changed to "bronze" here, as "bronzen" is not a word!
Intended. Humour.Quote:
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a) [Not technically a bug]. Inappropiate tone?
a) Correct. Textbook example of the use of colons. If there is any textbook about it that is.Quote:
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a) [Not technically a bug]. In my opinion, it would be better to use a colon here.
b) [Not technically a bug]. Inappropriate tone?
c) The word "do" is not needed here and should be removed.
b) See 7.
c) No, this time you're wrong. Emphasis of the implicit question. ~;)
Internal engine craziness. Perhaps possible, but then again Terhazza is as good as any other Free settlement for imaginary capital purposes.Quote:
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a) It seems strange that the Eleutheroi, who are, by definition, not a united people, should have a capital. Therefore, could the capital be moved to the settlement in the province of Eremos? If the Eleutheroi have a tendency to move it around from time to time, then could the script move it back to Terhazza (I believe that's the right one) every turn after the Eleutheroi finish their go?
Reserve this for tomorrow, if you don't mind. Unless somebody else replies first, of course.Quote:
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a) "From what" should be changed to "to that which".
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a) It seems strange that this building, which is clearly "Barbarian", should be "Western Greek". Should this not be changed?
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a) [Not technically a bug]. As you call the Autumn traits "Autumn" traits, could you change the season description for when it is not winter from "Spring, Summer or Fall" to "Spring, Summer or Autumn"?
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a) If it is not clear from this picture, on a particular turn, all my Family Members received both their normal, faction-specific season trait (namely, that of autumn), but also a trait called "Autumn" which had the same description. Presumably this is a bug?
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a) [Not technically a bug]. With this trait, I neither understand why it is named "Repulsive", nor do I find its description particularly easy to understand. I had to read the description three times before I realised that the character's settling of accounts and his going shopping were separate events (i.e. it did not mean that this character went shopping straight after settling accounts). Secondly, why should this stinginess (or at least, that was my overall impression after reading the trait's description) make the character "Repulsive"? Both the title and the description of this trait need to be changed, in my opinion.
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a) It seems strange that, when looking at the recruitment window of a settlement, a character's Unit Card should be strangely cut off at the right-hand side.
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a) [Not technically a bug]. This should be "honour" since you are using UK grammar (seeing as you mainly refer to autumn as "autumn" and not "fall", for example).
b) [Not technically a bug]. This should be "colour" since you are using UK grammar (seeing as you mainly refer to autumn as "autumn" and not "fall", for example).
c) In this case, "it's" should be "its".
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a) [Not technically a bug]. The comma should come after the second bracket since you are using UK grammar (seeing as you mainly refer to autumn as "autumn" and not "fall", for example).
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a) I found these units in a settlement controlled by Saba; were they not meant to be restricted only to Eleutheroi settlements?
The slave guys will pop up for everyone in a rebellion. This is on pupose and how it is supposed to work.
Sorry? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Tellos Athenaios
Well, whatever, but it seems odd that you should have these descriptions when EB is trying to be a definitive guide to the ancient world and whatnot. Your choice, however.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tellos Athenaios
If you say so :laugh4: - but it just sounds like something a foreigner would say to me (just like "He asked me what was I doing.").Quote:
Originally Posted by Tellos Athenaios
Or from that which. It depends on the meanings of 'to differ from' and 'to differ to'. From a quick googling attempt the difference doesn't appear to be that much, if any at all. Either way the current version isn't correct.Quote:
Originally Posted by I Am Herenow
Foot came up with an untested, unconfirmed but quite possible theory about this issue altogether. Currently the issue is that the engine mixes up the cultures of buildings placed through script. This is one such building.Quote:
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a) It seems strange that this building, which is clearly "Barbarian", should be "Western Greek". Should this not be changed?
Yes, anyone should be able to: Vanilla RTW doesn't read this three for the price of one sentence. But I do not think it is really neccesary to change it.Quote:
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a) [Not technically a bug]. As you call the Autumn traits "Autumn" traits, could you change the season description for when it is not winter from "Spring, Summer or Fall" to "Spring, Summer or Autumn"?
It clearly is a bug. *But* it could be 'your fault' if you have played a turn or so without the script activated.Quote:
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a) If it is not clear from this picture, on a particular turn, all my Family Members received both their normal, faction-specific season trait (namely, that of autumn), but also a trait called "Autumn" which had the same description. Presumably this is a bug?
AFAIK it is one of the top levels, or even the very top level itself of a rather obnoxious bad habit. So had you read the trait description he previously acquired and remembered them you'd know what this one refers to. So the top level of an obnoxious bad habit: how would one judge him? The answer 'Repulsive' is quite possible. Beyond that it is a matter of taste if you want to keep refering to the nature of the bad habit through every level.Quote:
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a) [Not technically a bug]. With this trait, I neither understand why it is named "Repulsive", nor do I find its description particularly easy to understand. I had to read the description three times before I realised that the character's settling of accounts and his going shopping were separate events (i.e. it did not mean that this character went shopping straight after settling accounts). Secondly, why should this stinginess (or at least, that was my overall impression after reading the trait's description) make the character "Repulsive"? Both the title and the description of this trait need to be changed, in my opinion.
Also, IIRC this description is apart from its name copied over from a previous level.
I think this is the result of the way the engine renders the GUI. Since the picture is fine by any means if you look at the unit description (and we're talking about the same picture here!), I doubt that nothing but a completely different pose would help. And I doubt that'd be as aesthetically pleasing.Quote:
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a) It seems strange that, when looking at the recruitment window of a settlement, a character's Unit Card should be strangely cut off at the right-hand side.
a) We're not using one specific form of English accross the board, so to speak. We've had a discussion about this internally, and decided we'd not maintain one specific English clause. (Mostly, I guess, because half of the descriptions are naturally written in American English (American EB Members, people who've been spending too much time in American English texts, etc.) and the other half are naturally written in British English (which is what most non-English people are taught at school AFAIK, and the native clause of the British members).Quote:
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a) [Not technically a bug]. This should be "honour" since you are using UK grammar (seeing as you mainly refer to autumn as "autumn" and not "fall", for example).
b) [Not technically a bug]. This should be "colour" since you are using UK grammar (seeing as you mainly refer to autumn as "autumn" and not "fall", for example).
c) In this case, "it's" should be "its".
b) See a.
See 16a.Quote:
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a) [Not technically a bug]. The comma should come after the second bracket since you are using UK grammar (seeing as you mainly refer to autumn as "autumn" and not "fall", for example).
The result of rebellion or bribery which caused the settlement to join the Saba. These units are not meant to be 'Eleutheroi only', they are a unit every faction can get - but only the Eleutheroi can recruit. The reason for their existence altogether is to solve an annoying rebellion CTD, and they are also used as 'bait' to incite the Eleutheroi to upgrade/build MICs. (The desired result of this role is that new, better units become available to the Eleutheroi which should ensure better chances at survival.)Quote:
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a) I found these units in a settlement controlled by Saba; were they not meant to be restricted only to Eleutheroi settlements?
Contaminatie is the Dutch name of a particular figure of speech. The one which is about confusing two expressions and mixing them together to a new but wrong version.Quote:
Originally Posted by I Am Herenow
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SPQR were dead for eight years at the time this happened. :laugh4:
I presume either it's a vanilla buglet or has some little to do with the internal faction swap. Note that this is RTW.exe and there's no re-emergence.
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same is the case with late Armenian bodyguardQuote:
Originally Posted by I Am Herenow
Thats a vanilla bug. Your state of war/alliances remains after a faction is killed. This also means that if a faction is allied to someone who you are at war with then they die. That first faction will never be able to ally with you. Since an alliance/war between two peoples means that anyone allied to them is effected, it will effect dead factions too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mouzafphaerre
I discovered this a few weeks ago. Both gens Avrelia and gens Cvria were failing to pass on the gens trait. You'll get the fix in EB 1.1.Quote:
Originally Posted by beatoangelico
captured Antioch with its huge military harbour as Pontus. it gave me the access to Pendotierre (spelling), the most expensive type of ship. but i got a peasant shown in unit description scroll instead of the boat. will post a screen shot tomorrow.
there it is, the troubled boats - Pentereis
https://img356.imageshack.us/img356/...9413iv0.th.jpg
late Armenian bodyguard
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i also noticed that Anatolian, Cappadocian hillmen and Eastern axeman too, have by default a rather weird for heavy infantry (thats what it says they are anyway) very thin formation that would be more suitable for a skirmisher unit.
is there a reason for that?
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i always manually put them into denser formation.
thanks
Hi, me again :beam:
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a) I came across this Arverni army besieging an Eleutheroi settlement, and saw that there was a red streak in the grey/black ground that they had created by besieging the settlement. Presumably this should not be there?
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a) [Not technically a bug]. The way this is phrased seems quite abrupt and not in keeping with the style of EB's other descriptions to me; I would edit the description of such campsites to the following: "The population of a nearby town has been expelled. Its people seek temporary refuge here before moving on.".
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a) The highlighted text should read "290s" in both cases.
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a) [Not technically a bug]. The way this is phrased seems quite abrupt and not in keeping with the style of EB's other descriptions to me; I would edit the description of such campsites to the following: "Country Bumpkin - This man talks too loudly in public and pays too close attention to the teeth of donkeys he sees in the street.".
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a) [Not technically a bug]. I would replace the word "carry" with the word "get" here, or alternatively rephrase this sentence to say that "one can get far in life with..." - it just seems more natural to me.
b) This should read "Hit Points".
c) This should read "Hale And Hearty"; in fact, I would extend it to say "the 'Hale And Hearty' trait".
That has always been like that. Devistation caused by a foreign army living off the land. The red streaks appear when it gets really bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by I Am Herenow
I'm quite sure the english word is "contamination"Quote:
Originally Posted by Tellos Athenaios
But then you still have to know what that certain figure of speech exactly means.
(De vertaling van bv. de stijlfiguur Zeugma zou al wat moeilijker liggen...)
'k Ben bang dat je nu niet de stijlfiguur maar de 'besmetting' zou bedoelen in het Engels. Althans Wikipedia noemt geen "contamination" onder "figure of speech" - en wat dat betreft is het doorgaans wel correct.
In het Engels heten veel stijlfiguren hetzelfd als in het grammatica jargon, dus het zou zomaar kunnen dat Zeugma simpelweg Zeugma is (google bevesitgt dit vermoeden). :wink:
Ik leer bij... ik leer bij...:clown:
Ik had niet aan besmetting gedacht natuurlijk, het leek me zo logisch :wall:
Ik heb ook eens op wiki gekeken naar de lijst van engelse stijlfiguren en ik zie niet direct iets wat er op lijkt.
But now we shall continue in English, because to most people it must seem as if we're talking jibberish.
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There's already a talkgibberishDutch thread out there. :clown:
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Another Lusotannan gov4/Client Ruler problem:
In Avaricum, Olindikus gets the Interloper trait and full movement points when spawned (correctly, inside the settlement). It's only the next turn when he gets the Client Ruler trait and movement restrictions, and gets rid of the Interloper.
Tested twice (reloading). Nobody's got the same name (Olindikus).
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too many "k" and "j" in Dutch for my tastes :laugh4:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mediolanicus
That's because "I" is "ik" in Dutch.Quote:
Originally Posted by beatoangelico
And because "you" is "jij"
And because we often have the "ij"-sound which you don't have in English : e.g.: "a list of words" --> "een lijst van woorden"
And now back on topic, because this thread is getting too linguistic :book:
In my Carthage campaign, I conquered Baikor. It is still of barbarian culture, and I built a stonewall (lvl 3) there. The stonewall is in the building viewer at the bottom, and is also visible in the battle map, but the settlement on the campaign map still has a wooden wall. I wondered about this because in my 0.81 Makedonian campaign, stonewalls around culturally barbarian settlements were visible on the campaign map. I can provide a screenie if needed.
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AFAICT, the new Oppida looks like a wooden wall on the campmap. Once you upgrade the palace to a semitic one, your walls should turn white. :burnout:
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Ah, you think because the culture is barbarian, the game "thinks" that the stonewalls are Oppida?
No stone wall strat models were made for the barbarians yet, so wooden walls are used as placeholders.
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OK!:stupido2:
I've read through this thread and tried searching for this inconsistency elsewhere, but couldnt' come up with anything.
The inconsistency I am refering to is the skeleton model for the Indohellinikoi hoplitai from baktria. On the unit card and EDU file, it says it should have an attack of 15 spear light_spear. Yet the skeleton file says it has a fs_swordsman and in a custom game, what I see is the right texture and shield, but wielding a sword, not a spear.
Is there a reason for this and what does it do to the combat stats? Does it function as a spear even though it only has the length of a sword in game?
For the "end of turn" faction summary scroll, I would suggest that you use the faction economic scroll instead. That end of turn thing is pretty much useless in terms of stating the amount of money you actually will or have gotten, therefore I stopped using it. I could never make sense of how it calculated the end results, cause it was always in error.
I believe the Indo-Greek Hoplite has both a sword and a spear, the sword just happens to be the primary weapon so that they charge with the spear. Just ALT-RightClick for the spear attack.
Marcus, I apologize for not being more clear. I am refering to the Indo-Greek noble hoplite. It is true that the Baktrian Agema (classical hoplite) fights with a spear and a sword, but there was also a normal Indo-Greek hoplite that was in a phalanx. But the unit with the card/EDU stats I am refering to is the IndoGreek noble hoplites. The unit card shows them using a hoplite spear, so does the primary weapon stats for it in the edu. They didn't get a secondary weapon either.
For easier reference, this is the unit with a base 14 armor unupgraded.