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:rolleyes: The same conflict you people are having.Quote:
Originally Posted by Viking
So you speak for Europe now? Or Norway does? We = Norway = YOU /= Europe.
Do you really think this has anything to do with democracy? You are stuck in the Cold War.
Read up.
There are many different conflicts; but the U.S.' interests typically differ from the European.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vladimir
Yes, how many real democratic nations do Russia support? Democracy could ruin Putin's great plans; he would maybe not have enough support in the people. By plans I do not mean action; I mean what he achieves in his dreams at night. :2thumbsup:Quote:
Do you really think this has anything to do with democracy?
Try again. Russia was only a wet dream and a silenced past at the time.Quote:
You are stuck in the Cold War.
If you do a comparison I'm sure you'll find that the US and Europe have a greater percentage of similar interests than each has with other regions. The differences vary greatly from state to state.Quote:
Originally Posted by Viking
Putin loves democracy! If he can control it. It's not a competition between forms of government more but traditional old-school power games. I think Europe (to exclude Norway) is fairly safe from Russian aggression. After all, who would buy their fuel?
I don't quite understand your last sentence but the only things that are making Russia wet are oil and gas.
Most European states have different interests, depending on how near Russia they are. The US is on the other side of the pond; the interests differs even more and they need to be put in a much more global context.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vladimir
As it is today, every European nation is safe for Russian aggression; Russia just like showing of their might, like the recent increase in Russian aerial activity in the Barents Sea.Quote:
Putin loves democracy! If he can control it. It's not a competition between forms of government more but traditional old-school power games. I think Europe (to exclude Norway) is fairly safe from Russian aggression. After all, who would buy their fuel?
By the way, Saddam Hussein liked his democracy too.
Well I can give you a hint: Russia did not exist. Yet. :2thumbsup:Quote:
I don't quite understand your last sentence but the only things that are making Russia wet are oil and gas.
Russia has been around for a very long time. Part of which can still be considered a part of Europe.Quote:
Originally Posted by Viking
Yes, but the two major participants in the Cold War were the US and the Soviet Union. Russia was having a break. :daisy:Quote:
Originally Posted by Vladimir
Well, only an idiot can expect that country as big and as powerful as Russia stand on the sidelines of the world politics forever. They had their problems, with the revolution, corruption, transition but now they are slowly getting up and it is perfectly normal that they want a say in almost all issues.
Personally, I think that EU should try to bring Russia closer instead of pushing it away. Pushing away the country that is the richest in resources in the world, when the world is on a brink of an energy crisis is a very bad move...
The problem is that we've realised we're a bit too dependent on Russian resources for our own good, so we're trying to keep them reasonably happy while looking for ways to wean ourselves off Russian gas.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sarmatian
Pushing it away? That's a new one, thank you. :bow:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sarmatian
Bah, we should put money into science regarding fission of thorium as well as fusion reactors in order to drastically ease reliance upon others.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sarmatian
You are such a greedy man... :beam:Quote:
Originally Posted by Viking
Oh, I didn't mean to imply that we should fission our beloved money. Rather I was pointing out the great need we have for this technology as thorium is plentyful in my backyard. :eyebrows:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sigurd Fafnesbane
Well, here it's a bad idea to build your house on a lot of coal, you will have to sell it to the coal mining company for the common good. You may say this is unfair etc. but when your whole region suddenly gets no power anymore and they say it's because this one guy refused to let them get coal from under his house, resulting in the whole mining having to stop...well...vigilantes? :laugh4:
Also reminds me of those western movies where stupid farmers try to stop the progress of technology by holding onto their cows instead of allowing a railway to be built through their land. :no:
And in the meantime, you're going to stay warm by thinking happy thoughts?Quote:
Originally Posted by Viking
Vikings don't need heat but for 6 months out of the year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sarmatian
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Originally Posted by Sarmatian
I'm not going to embrace a country that shows such disrespect for democracy. :inquisitive:
We could need some global warming up here, Al Gore should be our prime enemy methinks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vladimir
That said, Norway got all the energy it needs. Even better, it'll still be renewable for the next two billion years or so. ~;)
I hate the EU because I have to study it.
Also I am less full of praise for democracy than everyone else seems to be. Bah maybe that is just me though, watching all this coverage of the US and its electoral activities (from the UK) is enough to make me sick. Not that the EU is democratic. Not that it should be either, you don't need democracy in what is fundamentally an international organisation.