Occultus and the hidden Factions (Discussion)

I thought the font and color used for that Occultus looked too familiar. For future reference of people who ponder these cryptic clues, nearly all of the faction banners use a unique font, so seeing one reused is inherently suspicious. Only the Celtic/German factions appear to share the same font, and they are all written in different colors. If you see one that is written in both the same font and the same color, it is almost certainly an already known faction. Of course, the team might switch things around to mess with people now that this has been pointed out.

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Originally Posted by Maion Maroneios

Hehehe, nice try both of you. You're just trying to hide everything you can now that cold sweat and stress is beginning to take you over. Everyone with some good eyes can clearly see your banner is not of the Arverni. The symbol in the second "C" of the "OCCULTUS" part of the banner isn't in the Arverni one. Not to mention if that was the case you'd already have shown that from the beginning.

But fear not, philoi. I will uncover the dark secrets that are kept hidden from us by the EBII team. We shall know!!! OK you, since I begin to know myself as well.

Maion

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you'd get along quite well with this guy-conspiracy theories are his nack :clown:

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Originally Posted by Maion Maroneios

Hehehe, nice try both of you. You're just trying to hide everything you can now that cold sweat and stress is beginning to take you over. Everyone with some good eyes can clearly see your banner is not of the Arverni. The symbol in the second "C" of the "OCCULTUS" part of the banner isn't in the Arverni one. Not to mention if that was the case you'd already have shown that from the beginning.

But fear not, philoi. I will uncover the dark secrets that are kept hidden from us by the EBII team. We shall know!!! OK you, since I begin to know myself as well.

Maion

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Nice try but it is the Arverni symbol, the bit by the C is part of one of the hammers handles and the A in Arverni.

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/pictu...pictureid=1576https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/pictu...pictureid=1575

tsk tsk shame on you.

Hehehehehe...

At least I'm sure I got some of you :beam:

Maion

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Originally Posted by Maion Maroneios

Hehehehehe...

At least I'm sure I got some of you :beam:

Maion

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I never really believed that the Occultus sigs really were covered up new factions. I just thought this would be a good time to declare "epic win" in hopes of provoking a revealing response from the EB team.

Who wants to volunteer for hacking the EB forums and finding it out. I always wanted to know how they are making fun of us behind the mask of private fora.

Ah look! The Reality and the Parody! One after each other!

I hope your'e not serious about hacking the forums. Spilling all the beans will kill my burning desire for EBII. Sure some things are to be known, but not everything at once!

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Originally Posted by A Terribly Harmful Name

Who wants to volunteer for hacking the EB forums and finding it out. I always wanted to know how they are making fun of us behind the mask of private fora.

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Originally Posted by Alsatia

Ah look! The Reality and the Parody! One after each other!

I hope youré not serious about hacking the forums. Spilling all the beans will kill my burning desire for EBII. Sure some things are to be known, but not everything at once!

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I am sure they have discussion threads about certain org members who might be disruptive to the public EB forums, not that I would know for certain because obviously no one has gotten into the EB member forums and told me of such a thing.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Except fellow Tavern social member ***EDITED***.HAHAHA DISREGARD THAT, I DON'T KNOW WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT!

I am utterly and completely serious :clown:. SHHH they might hear it...! :Smash:

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Originally Posted by A Terribly Harmful Name

I am utterly and completely serious :clown:. SHHH they might hear it...! :Smash:

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And I am utterly and completely joking. :no:

I think if we combine our profiles together we can neutralize the extremes of our names and create a safe mildly controversial name.

Heres what I deduced.. Im probably wrong, but heck, who cares.

I think this is defiantly a steppe factions.

https://img16.imageshack.us/img16/4748/occultus.jpg

Comments anyone?

By the way, I realized that everything looks a bit blurry. Just open the occultus sig with Paint and take a look. My claims will make sense then

I think you need to get yourself checked out for Apophenia.

So according to Vasili's painting it must be this:




https://img17.imageshack.us/img17/3346/ajk.jpg

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Originally Posted by Skullheadhq

So according to Vasili's theory it must be this:




https://img17.imageshack.us/img17/3346/ajk.jpg

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:laugh4::laugh4::laugh4::inquisitive:

What?!

Well it looks like a duck's mouth in Vasili's sketch

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Originally Posted by Vasiliyi

Heres what I deduced.. Im probably wrong, but heck, who cares.

I think this is defiantly a steppe factions.

https://img16.imageshack.us/img16/4748/occultus.jpg

Comments anyone?

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has it occured to you that the EB person making that sig is just doing that to mess with your little head?:clown:

Maybe they are introducing Runequest tm ver. 1 elements into the ancient world, and there will be a Duck faction based around Sartar (north of the Takla Makan in the expanded map that includes proto-Fujiwara and Mauryan factions).

Heh, the EB team has just trolled it's fans.

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Originally Posted by Subotan

Heh, the EB team has just trolled it's fans.

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not again :sweatdrop:

Successful Foot is Successful.

odysseos has a new one.
https://img190.imageshack.us/img190/...2occultus2.jpg

not a bloody clue though.

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Originally Posted by bobbin

odysseos has a new one.
https://img190.imageshack.us/img190/...2occultus2.jpg

not a bloody clue though.

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Atropatene...
Somebody said something about me getting a free cookie?

based on your paintjob I would rather see a serpent of some kind in that sig. thinkin of the round thing as a loop formed by the snake.

well that's All I can see(or imagine I see) in it :/

Bah, its the same one as before, just a little more relieving. I think its the next faction to be exposed.

Hmm…

New one:

https://img190.imageshack.us/img190/...2occultus2.jpg

Old one:

http://www.majhost.com/gallery/bizar...ooccultus1.jpg

They're covering different areas this time.

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Originally Posted by Apraxiteles

Hmm…

New one:

https://img190.imageshack.us/img190/...2occultus2.jpg

Old one:

http://www.majhost.com/gallery/bizar...ooccultus1.jpg

They're covering different areas this time.

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My guess is that is going to be a Steppe/nomadic faction. Im willing to bet a balloon on it. Anyone want to call that bet?

Maybe someone can combine them so we have one picture? :sweatdrop:

I did, and I'm not showing it:clown:

but I can tell you: its awefully scaly.:laugh4:

Added new sig to first post.:beam:

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Originally Posted by Alsatia

If you've been going through The EB forums, you'll find a few EB members with an Occultus sig on them. They seem to show a design for one of the new factions. I have made this thread to discuss what they could be. The EB team will probably will not give us a fresh stele if we get it right.

Here are some of the Occultus sigs.

https://img154.imageshack.us/img154/...secret5sk0.jpg
https://img12.imageshack.us/img12/9154/logosecret7.jpg
https://img376.imageshack.us/img376/...ecret2d5cf.jpg
https://img190.imageshack.us/img190/...2occultus2.jpg

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the first and fourth pictures belong to the same faction.:yes:

And the third one was exposed as a recycled Arverni.

They are all recycled.

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Originally Posted by a completely inoffensive name

They are all recycled.

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sh!!:whip:

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Originally Posted by Alsatia

If you've been going through The EB forums, you'll find a few EB members with an Occultus sig on them. They seem to show a design for one of the new factions. I have made this thread to discuss what they could be. The EB team will probably will not give us a fresh stele if we get it right.

Here are some of the Occultus sigs.

https://img154.imageshack.us/img154/...secret5sk0.jpg
https://img12.imageshack.us/img12/9154/logosecret7.jpg
https://img376.imageshack.us/img376/...ecret2d5cf.jpg
https://img190.imageshack.us/img190/...2occultus2.jpg

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The first and forth one definitley aren't the saka rauka i can tell that much, you should probably remove the third one as its an old occultus from a previous version of EB.

There was another green one which seems disappeared for now.:juggle2:

I left the third there because, at one time, It was a hidden sig. (i'll edit it and cross it out...)

I still somehow don't think that it is the Arverni sig, the green color is different than in the Arverni bowl and that thing that should be the hammer seems to have too acute angle.

EDIT OK, it's it, the Arverni writing is still there, that makes the hammer look weird

The red one could be Atropatene, looks eastern. What do you guys think about Atropatene?

Its a good a guess as any. Not sure what their symbol would be, probably something based around Zoroastrianism.

It clearly features some scaled monster, ichtyo-centaur or dragon, I would connect it with something nomad or eastern.
Perhaps there is a crescent moon too.

Scales, eh? Fantasy dragon faction? China?

I know squat about Atropatene, my impression is a sort of mini-Armenia, obviously more of an Iranian culture but a little kindgom that the great king/Asian bossman could give to a relative or chip trade to an ambitious noble, but could potentially be a springboard to a resurgent Persian empire...mwahahahahahaha. Is that a likley faction trajectory?

I could play that, sort of like Pahlava but with civilised beginnings.

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Originally Posted by A Terribly Harmful Name

Yep, free beer and free sex owns freedom of speech.

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Sex should always be free. if you are ever paying for sex then there are some major problems that you should probably address.

https://img190.imageshack.us/img190/...2occultus2.jpg

Look like the edge of an Argyraspidies (sp?) shield. New Makedonia siggy???

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Originally Posted by Cyclops

Scales, eh? Fantasy dragon faction? China?

I know squat about Atropatene, my impression is a sort of mini-Armenia, obviously more of an Iranian culture but a little kindgom that the great king/Asian bossman could give to a relative or chip trade to an ambitious noble, but could potentially be a springboard to a resurgent Persian empire...mwahahahahahaha. Is that a likley faction trajectory?

I could play that, sort of like Pahlava but with civilised beginnings.

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From what I've heard its another succesor state, not sure whether its ruled by Greeks or if its more like Pontos.

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Look like the edge of an Argyraspidies (sp?) shield. New Makedonia siggy???

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I'm not sure, its probably supposed to be a faction emblem, I'd figure they will go with this:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped..._Macedonia.png

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Originally Posted by Cyclops

I know squat about Atropatene, my impression is a sort of mini-Armenia, obviously more of an Iranian culture but a little kindgom that the great king/Asian bossman could give to a relative or chip trade to an ambitious noble, but could potentially be a springboard to a resurgent Persian empire...mwahahahahahaha. Is that a likley faction trajectory?

I could play that, sort of like Pahlava but with civilised beginnings.

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From Wikipedia:

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Following the death of Alexander the Great in 323 BCE, the Macedonian's conquests were divided amongst the diadochi at the Partition of Babylon. The former Achaemenid satrapy of Media was divided into two states: The greater (southern) part - Media Magna was assigned to Peithon, one of Alexander's bodyguards. The smaller (northern) region, which had been the sub-satrapy of Matiene, became Media Atropatene under Atropates, the former Achaemenid governor of all Media, who had by then become father-in-law of Perdiccas, regent of Alexander's designated successor.
Shortly thereafter, Atropates refused to pay allegiance to Seleucus, and made Media Atropatene an independent kingdom. It subsequently lost the Media prefix in the name and came to be known simply as Atropatene (Greek: ᾿Ατροπατήνη).
The dynasty Atropates founded would rule the kingdom for several centuries, first independently, then as vassals of the

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Originally Posted by Cyclops

Scales, eh? Fantasy dragon faction? China?

I know squat about Atropatene, my impression is a sort of mini-Armenia, obviously more of an Iranian culture but a little kindgom that the great king/Asian bossman could give to a relative or chip trade to an ambitious noble, but could potentially be a springboard to a resurgent Persian empire...mwahahahahahaha. Is that a likley faction trajectory?

I could play that, sort of like Pahlava but with civilised beginnings.

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From what i've seen on maps it was around the same size or slightly smaller, it's ruling dynasty wasa started by the old persian satarp for media so very similar to Hayasdan in that respect although i think they were more representive of the old Achaemenid regime as they were not based around a people like Hayasdan with the Hai.

As for the occultus being a new Makedonia sig..I doubt it, the whole point of occultus sigs is to show off new factions and i can't see them changing the Maks faction symbol as the vergina sun is pretty much perfect for them.

Chinese will never become the world language. While it holds an exceptionally small chance of dying out, learning Chinese takes too much effort. It takes a a childhood of using Chinese daily to produce an adult fully capable of speaking it fluently.

Meanwhile, it takes a few months of hard work to learn a phonetic language like Spanish.

heh think you posted that in the wrong thread, but good point anyhow.

This...

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Originally Posted by bobbin

From what i've seen on maps it was around the same size or slightly smaller, it's ruling dynasty wasa started by the old persian satarp for media so very similar to Hayasdan in that respect although i think they were more representive of the old Achaemenid regime as they were not based around a people like Hayasdan with the Hai.

As for the occultus being a new Makedonia sig..I doubt it, the whole point of occultus sigs is to show off new factions and i can't see them changing the Maks faction symbol as the vergina sun is pretty much perfect for them.

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to this...

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Originally Posted by A Very Super Market

Chinese will never become the world language. While it holds an exceptionally small chance of dying out, learning Chinese takes too much effort. It takes a a childhood of using Chinese daily to produce an adult fully capable of speaking it fluently.

Meanwhile, it takes a few months of hard work to learn a phonetic language like Spanish.

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resulted in much laughter from me. :laugh4:

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Originally Posted by A Very Super Market

Chinese will never become the world language. While it holds an exceptionally small chance of dying out, learning Chinese takes too much effort. It takes a a childhood of using Chinese daily to produce an adult fully capable of speaking it fluently.

Meanwhile, it takes a few months of hard work to learn a phonetic language like Spanish.

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english is far easyer then spanish to both learn and speak (it also as alot more incentives with music and cinema being available to everyone) :oops: altough a nice diversity of languages helps you to develop several diferent areas cause a new language means a new grammar and a new way to see things

just my 2cents no harm intended

https://img190.imageshack.us/img190/...2occultus2.jpg

The shield at the top of the picture looks like it has a scorpion or even a crab on it.

They are all recycled!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Because having more exclamation points make your argument so much more compelling. I realize that spreading misinformation is part of the fun of all this, but can't you try a little harder? :clown:

Almost every single occultus sig has been shown to be recycled, why would this one be any different. None of the occultus sigs even remotely looked like the current Pergamon one before it was revealed.

What are you talking about?:inquisitive:

The first occultus sigs were for the Arverni, Saba and Saka IIRC
Apart from the Arverni one being recycled as a joke none of the others have.

Some very poor attempt at misinformation on your part I must say.

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Originally Posted by bobbin

What are you talking about?:inquisitive:

The first occultus sigs were for the Arverni, Saba and Saka IIRC
Apart from the Arverni one being recycled as a joke none of the others have.

Some very poor attempt at misinformation on your part I must say.

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I could have sworn all of the redish ones (including the one shown at the top post of the page) were Saka and the other one was outright confirmed as recycled Arverni.

They're the same colour scheme, but i'm pretty certain they're not the Saka as I can't see any way the gold patterns would match up. Plus the Occultus sig is decidedly scaley, something the Saka symbol is not.

Saka is pure gold, and I think i see some ivory there.

-Skullheadhq

Even if it is Saka sig, it is a NEW Saka sig. It looks much different than the old one.

:stop:

Back to topic, please.

i'm so excited!

to put in my two cents... the first and fourth are definitely the same, possibly a steppe faction. The second is an unknown, I'll guess that it's the Noricans

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Originally Posted by paullus

i'm so excited!

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So am I. I lost track of the EB 2 factions; it should be great to get it back. :2thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by Vasiliyi

Heres what I deduced.. Im probably wrong, but heck, who cares.

I think this is defiantly a steppe factions.

https://img16.imageshack.us/img16/4748/occultus.jpg

Comments anyone?

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olololololol !
You guys are blind!


That is an elephant right there....
Look at the "shield"... then a little further up to the left... thats the head!


tsk tsk..
EB team members commenting in this thread are wet in tears because Of my discoverings...


wet:2thumbsup:

Also...
I haz won the internets!

Ancient

* Achaean League
* Adiabene[1]
* Aetolian League
* Akkad[2]
* Alamanni
* Ammon[3]
* Kingdom of Araba
* Assyria[4]
* Atropatene[5]
* Avar Kingdom
* Axumite Kingdom[6]
* Babylonia[7]
* Bithynia
* Bosporan Kingdom[8]
* Kingdoms of Sub-Roman Britain
* Burgundian Kingdom
* Cappadocia
* Caucasian Iberia[9]
* Carthage[10]
* Chaldea[11]
* Characene[12]
* Commagene[13]
* Colchis[14]
* Cyrene
* Dacia
* Edom[15]
* Egrisi
* Egyptian Empire[16]
* Elam[17]
* Elymais
* Ancient Epirus[18]
* Etruria[19]
* Fatimid Caliphate[20]
* Kingdom of Fez or Wattasid[21]
* Finnveden[citation needed]
* Kingdom of the Franks
* Frisian kingdom
* Galatia[22]
* Gallic Empire
* Gepid Kingdom
* Ghassanid Kingdom
* Gordyene
* Greco-Bactrian Kingdom
* Hellenic city-states (such as Athens[23], Sparta[24], Syracuse[25]) and their allied cities/colonies/territories. See List of ancient Greek cities for all Greek Poleis.
* Hellenistic Empires (Ptolemaic[26], Seleucid[27], Antigonid[28],etc.)
* Himyar[29]
* Hittites[30]
* Hunnic Empire
* Hurrians[31]
* Illyria[32]
* Hebrew kingdoms of Israel[33] and Judah[34], and later kingdom of Judaea
* Kindah
* Kush[35]
* Lakhmids
* Lombard Kingdoms
* Lycia[36]
* Lydia[37]
* Macedon[38]
* Mauritania
* Media[39]
* Meroe[40]
* Moab[41]
* Nabataean kingdom[42]
* Nekor[citation needed]
* Njudung
* The petty kingdoms of present-day Norway[43][44]
* Nubia[45]
* Numidian Kingdom
* Saxons
* Odrysian kingdom of Thrace[46]
* Osroene[47]
* Ostrogothic Kingdom
* Kingdom of Pergamon[48]
* Palmyra
* Parthia[49]
* Philistines
* Phoenician city states
* Kingdom of Pontus[50]
* Rome[51]
o Roman Kingdom[52]
o Roman Republic[53]
o Roman Empire[54]
* Rugiland
* Scythia[55]
* Domain of Soissons
* Suebic Kingdom
* Sumerian city states [56]
* Tartessos[57]
* Thuringia
* Urartu[58]
* Värend[59]
* Vasconia
* Visigothic Kingdom
* Yamkhad[60]
* Yemeni Kingdoms
o qataban
o hadramaut
o Sabaeans
o Minaeans
* Troy[61]

There were also numerous Celtic, Germanic, and Slavic Tribes.

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EB team members commenting in this thread are wet in tears because Of my discoverings...

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that my even be correct :clown: ;)

@eddy_purpus I think youre right there :clown:

:D


So...

0k...
If its an Elephant... wich i undoubtedly it is... What faction or what region could the elephant be representing?

far east?:book:

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*Fatimid Caliphate*

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Someone found out at long last.

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If its an Elephant... wich i undoubtedly it is... What faction or what region could the elephant be representing?

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But what if...it's a mammoth?

What if it's a pygmy mammoth? Does this mean EB2 will extend the map to the islands north of Siberia?

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Originally Posted by A Very Super Market

What if it's a pygmy mammoth? Does this mean EB2 will extend the map to the islands north of Siberia?

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=o:idea2:

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Originally Posted by Hax

Someone found out at long last.

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I just did the copypasta... :P

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But what if...it's a mammoth?

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We had mamoths in rtw already...
remember?
:p

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Originally Posted by eddy_purpus

I just did the copypasta... :P

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You miss the irony.

Oh no - not another Satanist mod :wink:

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Originally Posted by Dunadd

Oh no - not another Satanist mod :wink:

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WTH?:inquisitive:

I don't follow what you're saying.

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Someone found out at long last.

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it was a forgone conclusion-we need more homies around here:clown:

Shi'a for life! Our lives for Ali! Let's get those Abbassid bastards back where they come from!

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Originally Posted by Hax

Shi'a for life! Our lives for Ali! Let's get those Abbassid bastards back where they come from!

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*entire crowd of sunnis, me included, turn round looking at him*

reaction (@1:20 onwards)

:clown: (I don't really care about sects)

but seriously now, Dunadd, what do you mean by a satanist mod?

Gah. A true (soon-to-be) shahid doesn't fear the Sunni mob...

Eight pages of discussion, and we still don't know the identity of the occultus factions. Enough of the spam, I am closing this thread.