you should trust me more, i voted for methos the entire time and i basically defended your claim. double a did not and he also has been very quiet i have talked much more.
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you should trust me more, i voted for methos the entire time and i basically defended your claim. double a did not and he also has been very quiet i have talked much more.
Hmmm, well I don't see it that likely that he would let the mafia know each other, if you did it would be very....powered...Quote:
Originally Posted by Centurion1
I see where your going though, I have 5 minutes to decide :grin:
when you posted that you had 6 actually. lol
It just seems convenient that you would claim these things, as if you were prepared for this day. If you thought you could buy my trust, then why wouldn't you trust me? Then kill me in the night?Quote:
Originally Posted by Centurion1
no not really iwould have killed you and been done with it. im a very blunt mafia player. too lazy to develop ornate strategies, if imiss a phase its because i was lazy not some master plan
You telling me you wouldn't do something as mafia isn't all too convincing....maybe you tried to kill me? Not saying you did but given I think I was protected in the night your attempt could have failed.
OK, that's my choice, if its a tie there's a fair chance the right (or wrong) outcome will come.
:bow:
Eagerly await the results.
alright well its over then eh. guess i better fess up.
im a vanilla townie. jeez this keeps happening
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Originally Posted by Centurion1
Regardless of your role, either both of you die (which should be a win...)
neither die (no harm done)
one randomly dies (would be interesting)
we'll see...
The discussion dragged on throughout the day, and despite the decisiveness of the final outcome, the butlers seemed rather complacent about their possible fate. Thermal Mercury's sneaking around had given Yaropolk an alibi, leaving the axe hanging over both Centurion1 and Double A. Of the two, Centurion1 seemed the most resigned to his potential fate, and whilst DoubleA dismissed the allegations against him, Centurion1 claimed that he was too lazy to be a mafia. Sensing this to be a typical mafia defence, the other butlers decided that he was "Edgar".
DoubleA started to unfasten his bowtie.
"You know, I couldn't do this damn thing up for twenty years. I finally learnt how to do so two weeks ago. I guess I should be thankful that instead of having a velcro bow tie, I now have one capable of garrotting you!"
He made motions to the others to grab and restrain the panicking Centurion1. DoubleA then approached, and standing behind the struggling butler, strangled Centurion1 to death with a polka dot tie.
When the deed was done, a thorough inspection of the corpse with the bulging eyes revealed that:
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Let's hope random.org goes the right way, then. :3
I'm lazy too, but I at least try to form a strategy when I'm mafia.Quote:
Originally Posted by Centurion1
I'm a vanilla townie as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Centurion1
It would be quite funny if the true killer is Thermal or Yaropolk. Particularly the latter, who I have so readily accused from beyond the grave.
Whomsoever it is, you've played a good game. :3
Alright my money is on TM. He's semi-inactive usually, so that would explain the absence of a N2 kill.
Wait a sec... Yaro has the least posts in this thread, and the butler goal is to get the most posts.
So it's pretty even. Eh.
Only inactive when my internet is cut off, always thoroughly active on mini mafias. :bow:Quote:
Originally Posted by Double A
I was also entirely active throughout that night, analyzing the thread may have helped your case here.
So it was Double A... the only way Yaropolk could be mafia is if he worked with the host (I think) which would be naughty :tongue:
Sorry Centurion, I had convinced myself if was you until the round was announced over... hmm
This is probably going to end badly, Double A would need to mess up badly to not win now.
Overall though, even with your claims centurion, I still saw it as feasible mafia behavior, just a bad call on my part (and bad luck given that it was a tie and you were the one who died...) :shame: .
The butlers were stunned. How could he be innocent? All the signs had pointed to Centurion1 being mafia! DoubleA started gibbering in terror, knowing that he was now the most likely suspect.
Thermal Mercury raised an eyebrow. If DoubleA wasn't mafia, as he repeatedly kept saying, and if he himself wasn't mafia, then...
Both of them turned to the grinning Yaropolk. Thermal Mercury began to raise an arm to accuse the bearded menace, when a searing pain in his stomach caused him to fall his knees.
"Agh! What the-"
Yaropolk threw back his furry head and laughed.
"You fell for it! You saw the bait and swallowed it all down; literally! I poisoned your porridge last night when I visited your room, making porridge even more inedible than it already is! Bwahahaha!"
Thermal Mercury could only hear Yaropolk in the distance, as the faint hiss of his internal organs dissolving had his full attention, and it was not long before his vital organs shut down and Thermal Mercury was no more. From the melting shell, the two remaining butlers could deduce that
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That left just DoubleA and Yaropolk.
Understandably, DoubleA started making moves towards an escape
"So Yaropolk, you always knew I liked you best, eh? So I'll be just leaving now, alive, if you're feelin' OK with that?"
"Feelin'? Feeline? FELINE? ARRRGH"
Yaropolk pulled the cutlery drawer out of the cabinet at the side of the room, and span around to face DoubleA with a glint in his eye and a fish knife in each hand.
"MAKE ME CUT UP TUNA EVERY DAY FOR YOUR STUPID MOGGY, WILL YOU MISTRESS? WELL WATCH ME PREPARE THIS TUNA!"
And with that, he roared, and set himself upon the helpless DoubleA, who went down in history as the only person in history to be torn to pieces by a pair of fish knives. In the mess that followed it could be determined from the dental records that:
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This left Yaropolk in the centre of the ballroom, covered and blood and cackling to himself, the butler triumphant! For Yaropolk was in fact:
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Now, with all cat lovers vanquished, and the prize of Best British Butler (Awarded by himself, no less), Edgar was well placed to become the most powerful servant that the world had ever seen!
Chatty butlers have a habit of dying. I plan to claim the prize by living to the end.Quote:
Originally Posted by Double A
There was a kill N1 right Thermal?
I haven't sent any orders in all game, Mr. Mafioso :tongue:
I flippin' KNEW it!
I had been pointing the finger all along, and I knew it!
Very well played, Yaropolk... it was most unfortunate that I was 'lynched'.
At who and which finger?
With my right hand's index finger, of course! I'd been suggesting Yaropolk as mafia since my 'lynch', and even when he argued against it, I didn't believe him.
I'll concede that I never suspected Methos, though.
So, mafia victory. Congratulations Methos and Yaropolk.
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The game was set up with three townies, a cop, a tracker, a normal mafia, and a poisoner. This could have a variety of outcomes, as the tracker was inherently weak against the poisoner, who killed the night after he sent the order in to me. I was hoping for a situation where the Cop was bumped off, and the town was having to rely on the tracker's info to sniff out the poisoner; which is exactly what happened. I actually cackled when random.org designated ATPG to be the cop, as I knew he would die immediately.
That said, the mafia were far from guaranteed victory. The mafia were able to operate independently if they wished, but I left notes in their PM's telling them that they should work together. They missed each others cues though (I don't think Methos laid any, although I think that was because I worded the pm badly), so they both sent me PM's telling me to kill ATPG! I got round that problem by having him killed by brandy, a consumable, and I left some really subtle clues in the write up (E.g. I said the brandy was a gift; gift in German means poison).
However, Methos was luckily tracked by TM who nailed him in the day phase (ATPG investigated TM; he was innocent, obviously). Whilst Methos' attempt to break free was impressive, it nearly cost the mafia the game, as he accused Yaropolk of being mafia, and he had the evidence to prove it. However, you townies seemed to forget about that when the next phase came along.
After that, Yaropolk had basically checkmated you. TM investigated Yaropolk, found him visiting his room (I spent ages trying to think how to word that PM as neutrally as possible), and concluded that he was a doctor, even though there was no previous evidence that he was. And, well, you know the rest.
I felt this game was really well balanced, as a few changes in the plan would have resulted in a totally different outcome. But both sides did really well considering the odds against both of them, and a hearty congratulations to everyone who took part. Thanks for playing.
And I finished the game early, as after the lynching of Cent a town victory was impossible, although technically the poisoning of TM should have happened tomorrow morning.
Wait a second... did Yaro poison either of us?
Because if he didn't, then we won. Maybe?
edit: wait nevermind, saw your post.
Couldn't I strangle him with my garrote tie?
Fish knife > Bow tie
Ah come on, my character's the forefather of the butler stereotype!
'Sides, Edgar got owned by a bunch of cats and a mouse.
His only weakness is cats. You have no cats. Ergo, he kills you, in a horrible, horrible fashion.
:sad:
I feel that's where the town came unstuck, really. No matter the game, people are just going to gravitate towards Pizza and investigate, roleblock or kill him. This, and my own 'lynch', stacked things against the town as they were basically two down by the second day phase. And as Pizza's reasoning showed, the three townies were always going to have alot of trouble taking two mafia down from there onwards.Quote:
I actually cackled when random.org designated ATPG to be the cop, as I knew he would die immediately.
I never fell for that personally, but I was dead, beyond saying "I suspect Yaropolk", there wasn't really much more I could contribute. My arguments weren't really going to carry much weight, and seemed largely ignored anyway.Quote:
However, you townies seemed to forget about that when the next phase came along.
I feel that the game was well balanced, to an extent. I feel that giving Pizza a role at the moment is tantamount to letting the opposite side win, and that while he keeps getting these roles, he's going to end up written out the game early on. I feel this is a shame, because games suffer when people like Pizza are killed/lynched.Quote:
I felt this game was really well balanced, as a few changes in the plan would have resulted in a totally different outcome. But both sides did really well considering the odds against both of them, and a hearty congratulations to everyone who took part.
Look at CDf's current Swords and D20s 3 game. Pizza was the main demon, and with him dead in the second day phase... well the town's basically won already. I'd have just made him a townie from the off and then randomised the other roles. In fairness, that's not really your fault, so don't worry too much about it.
I was also a bit 'meh' in regards to my lynch in the first round, but it happens. I can't honestly say that it would have changed the game (I may have suspected Yaropolk, but Methos went right below my radar), but who can say now?
I have to say that the poisoner idea, in that people targetted die on a later turn, was inspired, and is a feature I'd love to see more often. The roles looked fantastic (Jeeves! :D) and you'd clearly thought things through. I loved the writeups too. :3
Either way, I hope to see another mini-game from you in the future, I'll be certain to sign up.
Thanks. Looking back over it, a lot of the problems were circumstantial, such as your lynch (Sorry :shame:) and ATPG's position as the cop. Had those been different, it's impossible to say what the outcome might have been. I actually thought that there might be a double-bluff effect regarding ATPG, as people would think that there was no way someone like him could get another important role. It turns out I've actually spread Pizza Syndrome.
I have learnt from the mistakes and successes of my first game though (Which was the point of this game), and like I said, you're guaranteed a place anyway, due to my mess-up with the no lynch. And then, of course, there is ABZF in the summer...
Another Bad Zucking acromymF?
Check out my sig.
Both the lynch and Pizza's death aren't really your fault, there's no need to worry about them; they're just the aspects of the game that I feel changed everything. I blame the two mafia for targetting him straight away... :P
I look forward to ABZF too. :>
Oooooh explosions.
In.
Cunning Subotan, I like the idea of creating a role to combat my own, would happily join any of your future creations.
Well done for deceiving me Yaropolk... :shame:
Sorry town! I wasn't expecting anything as well, unexpected as that...
For those who paid attention on day 1 and clicked on my link, you would have known that Lurch killed Subotan :idea2:Quote:
Originally Posted by Yaropolk
That really helps, considering we didn't know who Lurch was.
You did after the lynch. And Methos should have definitely caught it, but alas no dice.
Another thing to add, if ATPG wasn't killed it would have been helpful as we could have worked together, mafia had unity where as we were all split from the starting blocks really. Very Good Game though.
Methos and I never connected - thats why the double kill on ATPG on N1, and then he was lynched.
I feel like an idiot. I went over the substance of my PM and the possible subtle clues, but missed the name of my character. I went up and down the link he posted trying to find anything regarding cats or the lost and reattachment of my hand. Man, I feel completely stupid.Quote:
Originally Posted by Subotan
The hilarious part, is no one else noticed it either after the lynch and my name was revealed.
The first day I wasn't sure what to leave as a clue, so I waited and came back later only to find the update had already happened. I'm used to CFC whereas the rule is no game posts during the night phase. After TM accused me I knew I was screwed and since typically everybody accused their accuser of lying, I decided to instead try a different tactic and agree to it and claim another role. Sometime around there Yaro sent me another PM about the cow and even though I missed the clue (my name) I figured he was telling me he was the other mafia. By that time I figured my role tactic wasn't working, so I accused Yaro and used the evidence in the thread. I figured if it worked, then I would look good as having caused the death of a mafia. I figured if it didn't, then I'd throw suspicion off Yaro, as it would appear like I was grasping for straws and chose Yaro due to an odd post.
I finally went with the dirty tactic of throwing a tantrum, which only caused me to toss out a couple PMs to non-players telling them to ignore it, as it was a play.
All in all, I did a horrible job this game. I must say I like the seven man games, as you have to pay closer attention to the posts. It was a fun game and I look forward to playing more. Too bad TM chose me that first night.
Regarding Pizza: I wasn't for sure who to kill that first night, especially knowing there was another mafia out there. I went with Pizza mainly because I thought it would keep suspicion off of me by doing so. Sorry Pizza.
As I mentioned above, Yaro worked either way for me. I honestly wasn't for sure if Yaro didn't have a goal to kill me, so I wasn't too worried if I did take him down in order to save myself.Quote:
Whilst Methos' attempt to break free was impressive, it nearly cost the mafia the game, as he accused Yaropolk of being mafia, and he had the evidence to prove it. However, you townies seemed to forget about that when the next phase came along.
Meh, the mini-games aren't so bad. I don't know why the mafia would ever leave me alive in a mini-game except to make the town think I am guilty.
Don't worry about it so much, Methos and Yaropolk; like I say as long as it quits happening every game or every other game when there's at least a half-dozen to several dozen other players who are also valid candidates.
good game subotan i never saw a poisoner coming. i originally suspected yaro but i never thought of something like that.