Also, what are the "basic needs" you want money for?
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Also, what are the "basic needs" you want money for?
The bandwagon on Arpeg picked up awfully quick.
unvote: Arpeg; Imprison: Pinman;
3rd on the bandwagon. Vote without giving a reason. Scummy, scummy. Would you care to elaborate on your vote Pinman?
Oh, and I also came up with further evidence to prove my innocence, if you'll believe it. Closer examination of the night writeup revealed this:
"The plate-clad assailant wheeled around with surprising agility and struck again with a heavy-handed vertical strike that Romanic narrowly evaded; the axe slammed down upon the cold stone where he had been stood and a crack emerged along the impact zone, such was the power behind the blow."
I do not carry an axe; I carry a dwarven shortsword. Make of that what you will.
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Originally Posted by spL1tp3r50naL1ty
Mr THIS is clearly lyrium addled, there is no other excuse for his "evidence".
pm Secura, the bids are supposed to be private. Now everybody knows how much they need to bid to beat you...Quote:
Originally Posted by civplayah
Just an observation here, but weapons seem only useful to people who try to kill. (AFAIK, Secura mentioned in her preview thread that some people can vig, there might be an SK also) Anyways, it might be good to keep the weapons away from those doing the killing. Not sure exactly how though, since bidding is secret. Any ideas?
I voted for the person I thought seemed most guilty at the time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Romanic
Pool money together and make sure we win the bidding, you need people you trust to do that of course. I don't see any clearly innocent people as yet, or even anybody unlikely to be scum.
:embarassed:Quote:
Originally Posted by johnhughthom
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Originally Posted by civplayah
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For one gold I'll edit your bid out of my quote too. :laugh4:Quote:
Originally Posted by civplayah
Why did you think that Arpeg is the most guilty?Quote:
Originally Posted by Pinman
Imprison: ArpeggiateTHIS
Gosh!
Just got back from work and I have a helluva lot of PMs to go through... so much more fun than watching kite-surfers fail hard.
Y'all rock. <3
This isn't evidence at all if you can't prove it. Can you? (This is an honest question; I'm losing track of the rules every five seconds.)Quote:
Originally Posted by ArpeggiateTHIS
Never mind, asked Secura. You could kindasorta of prove it, but it would take a couple of days. You could sell an item to "her" (the merchants) and it would be put up for sale again the next day. But she has no money yet today with which to buy it.
vote: TheFlaxQuote:
Originally Posted by TheFlax
Trying to make something look suspicious that actually isn't. Aimed at the current bandwagon leader and without a vote attached, it's triply scummy.
I was questioning his apparent shock at the reveal that someone can steal, when Beskar said as much earlier in the round. You're giving me an intent I simply did not have. I'm on the fence about ArpTHIS.Quote:
Originally Posted by Renata
That isn't a good sign... :/Quote:
Originally Posted by Renata
This is correct; basically, the merchants currently have no gold.Quote:
Originally Posted by Renata
Once the two items are sold, all proceeds are added to their pockets, which can then be used to buy items from you guys; essentially you PM me during the night to sell the item with a price you think it's worth, we'll haggle a little... once a price is agreed, you get some of the merchant's gold and they will try to peddle your old stuff during the next day phase.
You are able to hold multiple items (say... you're wearing a chainmail cuirass but you're also holding a leather chestpiece and some standard clothes), but you only gain benefits from the one you've equipped in that slot... if you change items around (say you win the sword, for example, and want it to replace your dagger), let me know.
I'm hoping that wasn't too complicated... not sure I should keep the game going if it gets too hard for people to understand. >.<
(It's not your fault, Secura. I'm in five games right now, just wrapped up a sixth (and about to start a new sixth) on another site; and it's all gone a bit blurry. It's not just this game, it's all of them. Just I'm already familiar with the rules of all the rest.)
It befuddles me too... why would Reenk, an experienced mafia player, roleclaim D2, when there is no promise of protection, or even a protection role?Quote:
Originally Posted by ArpeggiateTHIS
unvote; vote: Reenk Roink
Mafia.
Unvote: ArpeggiateTHIS
Vote: Beskar
Anyone except me and Double A is an OK choice. I really need money to talk further. Pool together like 20 gold minimum and we can talk more or give me a good trinket.
Why would we pay you money when you don't even give us a bleepin' reason?Quote:
Originally Posted by Reenk Roink
Unvote; Imprison: Reenk Roink
Now theres somebody more scummy than Arpeggiate. But it doesn't make sense to kill a potential power role.
Don't give Reenk any money, but let him live.
If he needs cash, he can earn it the hard way or be jailed for stealing it. He's obviously some sort of casteless thug who goes sneaking around following people at night.
Imprison: Reenk until he tells me why he wants 20 gold, aside from money being good to have.
I don't think you can vote and imprison - Secura?Quote:
Originally Posted by Double A
I think he is the thief who actually robbed me last night, he should be sent into exile for stealing to redeem himself infront of the darkspawn. He is no honest dwarf.
(As for that 20 gold, it is most likely part of his victory condition. To rob us all.)
Mah bad.
unvote, imprison: Reenk
Don't bother. Trust me, that's a wasted vote.Quote:
Originally Posted by Double A
You don't need to vote for a thief to put him in jail, so why should you vote for Reenk?
vote reenk you are really putting of scummy vibes.
ooc: Game mechanics ≠ rp mechanicsQuote:
Originally Posted by Chaotix
Imprison: Reenk
He's certainly giving off "more interested in making money to fulfil his VCs than helping the town win" vibes, but scum? I don't think it's likely, imprison him and see what happens tonight.
Imprison:Reenk
If he's a power role, he's safe, even if he can't use his power. If he's scum, he's blocked.
So where's your vote then?Quote:
Originally Posted by Beskar
{ I voted for him earlier then he OMGUS voted me. }Quote:
Originally Posted by johnhughthom
Leaving a life of organizational poverty and serving the community for this:
https://img691.imageshack.us/img691/1456/pronger.jpg
I humbly accept my fate :bow:
Aww, that's not the Beskar retort I was expecting, tired tonight?
Unvote, Vote: Reenk
I'd rather he be exiled than imprisoned.
(Same, if he is the thief, do we really want some one going around robbing us and taking our money?Quote:
Originally Posted by Chaotix
What would imprisoning him serve? nothing at all.
Vote to remove him from the game.)
Anyone who has placed a bid on one of the items and been beaten by another bid should have received a PM stating this fact; if you've bid and haven't received a PM, you currently have the highest bid.
:bow:
This post is so ridiculous it has to be fake. If I thought it would do you any good I'd vote you for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beskar
just out of curiosity , how much money did you lose Beskar?
( All of it. Even though it wasn't much.Quote:
Originally Posted by God Emperor
Also, Renata's post doesn't make sense to me. )
Nor to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beskar
Perhapes she is the thief that is the only thing I can think of. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Beskar
( She was imprisioned. I doubt she can steal while in prison. )Quote:
Originally Posted by Captain Blackadder
Just a joke I admit it makes no sense to me either. Though if this was a movie like law abiding citizen I wouldn't put it past her.
What's with the brackets Beskie?
I'm going to echo Renata's sentiment. I think Beskar's whole "Reenk Roink" must the thief because he's asking for lots of gold is rather far fetched. Especially because he brings it up almost out of nowhere to justify what is in fact an OMGUS. Also there is the certitude with which everything related to that is said.
Having played another game where gold is used (on CFC), I know that asking for gold is not necessarily indicative of anything. I asked for gold nearly each round because my ability was powered by 5 gold and it was very much pro-town. (Sort of like a detective.)
Doesn't mean Reenk Roink is pro-town, but doesn't mean either he should be lynched for it. Its a terrible reason in my opinion.
Vote: Beskar (in protest to a whole bunch of people following shoddy reasoning.)
Tally:
Imprison:
Reenk Roink: 4 (Pinman, AA, jht, auto)
Mr THIS: 1 (Khazzar)
Pinman: 1 (Romanic)
Chaotix: 1 (split)
Exile/Murder:
TheFlax: 1 (Renata)
Chaotix: 1 (khaan)
Mr THIS: 1 (R/R)
Reenk Roink: 5 (Chaotix, Mr THIS, God Emperor,Beskie, Capt B)
Beskar: 1 (Flaxy)
Not voting: autolycus (Seen him about elsewhere, Silent Sister?)
When does the round end Secura?
Well your vote for Beskar is a terrible response, vote to imprison Reenk and tie it up.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheFlax
You tallied me as voting for Reenk Roink's imprisonment, which I did, and then you say I haven't taken a position? I resent that, johnhughthomQuote:
Originally Posted by johnhughthom
Also it is highly flawed as well. Because it can't be an OMGUS, as I voted first. Also, I didn't pull it out of no where, it is pretty solid reasoning, that some one who goes around stealing from others might have a condition to generate a certain amount of money.Quote:
Well your vote for Beskar is a terrible response, vote to imprison Reenk and tie it up.
Round ends at midnight GMT (in about 7 hours)Quote:
Originally Posted by johnhughthom
civplayah is the one who has not voted this round.
Apologies. :shame: I knew it was civplayah, don't know how I got you mixed up. Both CFCers I guess.Quote:
Originally Posted by autolycus
vote: Reenk Roink
I already keep track of every single thing that happens in the game (roles, income, Str/Con changes, votes, bids, night actions) with Excel, but thanks for posting this nonetheless, good sir. :bow:Quote:
Originally Posted by johnhughthom
Yup, it's midnight GMT; I'll still take bids or votes up to that point. :3Quote:
When does the round end Secura?
Updated Tally:
Imprison:
Reenk Roink: 4 (Pinman, AA, jht, auto)
Mr THIS: 1 (Khazzar)
Pinman: 1 (Romanic)
Chaotix: 1 (split)
Exile/Murder:
TheFlax: 1 (Renata)
Chaotix: 1 (khaan)
Mr THIS: 1 (R/R)
Reenk Roink: 6 (Chaotix, Mr THIS, God Emperor, Beskie, Capt B, civplayah)
Beskar: 1 (Flaxy)
No problem, I do it as much for the other players as the host so not everybody has to dig through the thread to see who'll be lynched. I had an idea you would have some system for keeping up with everything.Quote:
Originally Posted by Secura
Point. Though it would tie it up anymore. Unvote, Imprison: Reenk RoinkQuote:
Originally Posted by johnhughthom
Looking back, I was wrong about the OMGUS. Nevertheless, I don't think the reasoning is particularly strong. Odds are as good that he's pro town or (and this wouldn't be a first for Reenk Roink) nothing at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beskar
At the same time, I'm still curious as to the reasoning behind many of the things he's said. First we had the "tracker" comment, which I can only assume was a bad attempt at drawing in lynchbait. Second, we have the "gold" comment.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheFlax
I'd guess that Reenk is town, but only because he'd have been stupid to draw this attention to himself if he were scum. Perhaps he's a casteless, Dust-town dwelling beggar? He may be our thief, in that case.
EDIT: Here are the comments:
He gave no reason for his claim that Double A was innocent and then blindly voted Renata despite the fact that she'd just been in jail!Quote:
Originally Posted by Reenk Roink
After everybody jumped onto my bandwagon about the mafia-kill comments, he reveals that he has no armour or weapons and in doing so, gives signal to mafia that he is a certain kill the forthcoming night. (No armour = basic constitution, presuming that his constitution isn't that of a High Dragon)Quote:
Originally Posted by Reenk Roink
Returning to the point I made before I looked over Reenk's comments, I think it would be wise to assume that he's a beggar. At least, this ties in with his claims that he has no money or items. It also could grant him some sort of "watcher" ability, given that a beggar could probably blend in with the crowd or hide down a back-alley.
This begs the question: is he worth keeping alive? I'd say yes, and my kill vote will change to reflect that. Unvote; Imprison: Reenk Roink
EDITEDIT: Dang, it's after the deadline.
End of Day Two
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Inside the Throne Room
Another day had passed and, for the most part, Endrin felt it had followed the course of the previous day; plenty of accusations, claims and questions, but little progress for the majority of the day. His thoughts lingered to Lady Dordan and the cause of her untimely death... did any of his guests know what had happened?
He sighed softly, and turned back to the matter at hand; with a wave of his hand, he motioned for a member of the crowd to come forward; proud and assured of himself, Beskar paced forward, bowed to the king and sunk to one knee.
"What have you decided today?", Endrin asked.
"We've learned that Reenk is a thief and should be punished for his crimes!", the kneeling Beskar replied confidently.
Endrin furrowed his brow at the dwarf's enthusiasm and gusto; "and you are all in agreeance with this?"
The crowd murmured and nodded as they agreed with Beskar, with calls for Reenk's head being the main point of agreeance among them, yet there were some whisperings among the collective that didn't quite share the same views and wondered what Reenk was even supposed to be guilty of.
Before Beskar could continue speaking, another voice interjected, hands flailing towards the doors leading to the lobby; "it's the Grey Wardens, my lord, they have returned!"
Duncan had returned with his two compatriots, one of whom looked completely dishevelled and worse-for-wear; they sat him in a corner away from the king's audience, then Duncan moved around to stand beside Endrin.
"I am afraid that the subject of your ire has just fled from the Palace", he said softly with a slightly bemused look upon his tanned face, "he collided with my elven friend here."
Beskar climbed to his feet, indignant and deeply offended that Duncan found the situation to be funny; "we must apprehend the thief, off with his head, throw him into the magma, feed him to nugs..."
Duncan shook his head and turned to King Endrin and spoke in a hushed tone that was barely audible, the king himself having to strain hard to hear what the Warden was saying.
"I believe he was fleeing towards the Deep Roads, my friend... I doubt you will see him again."
King Endrin Aeducan sighed heavily, rose from his throne and walked out of the room in silence, leaving Duncan to usher everyone to their beds and take Reenk Roink's discarded items to his own chambers.
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Start of Night Two
Night will end at 15:00 GMT, 19/07/10 or sooner if I have received orders from everyone!
Exile/Execution
Reenk Roink: 6 - Beskar, civplayah, Chaotix, ArpeggiateTHIS, Captain Blackadder, God Emperor
Alive: (16/17)
TheFlax
Double A
Beskar
Pinman
Renata
civplayah
Chaotix
ArpeggiateTHIS
Yaseikhaan
Khazaar
Romanic
spL1tp3r50naL1ty
Captain Blackadder
autolycus
johnhughthom
God Emperor
Fled into the Deep Roads:
Reenk Roink
Apologies for a slightly late writeup... the heavy workload of my job and the game's taken it's toll; when this phase ends, I should be working 9-2 for the rest of the week so should have more time for the game. :<
No role reveal? :sad:
Duncan's got to assess his discarded stuff first...
So how long till the reveal? 3 days? That's a bit much for a small game.
I never implied I had no basic armor or weapons in that post, just no trinkets or special items which I wanted. You will probably get my awesome armor and weapons soon. :yes: it will suck when you learn what you have lost, and I just wanted 20 gold and a trinket. :laugh4:Quote:
Originally Posted by ArpeggiateTHIS
Edit: I would advise the town to look at the people who started voting for me later in the round seemingly out of the blue, especially Chaotix who rode the fence for what seemed like an eternity only to later decide he'd rather see me gone than just checked for a night at a point when it seemed like the imprison movement was gaining strength.
Why is it so important that you know immediately?Quote:
Originally Posted by Double A
Revealing roles immediately after their death is a massive boon to town-aligned roles; I think that, considering the wide array of abilities that the town has and other mitigating circumstances, immediate reveals are not entirely necessary, and as such you'll have to wait at least a phase or two to find out about the lynched/dead.
Basically, you need a little more patience; Duncan will reveal everything about Reenk in due course.
The very fact you did this still baffles me... could you explain via PM what your angle was in taking this course of action?Quote:
Originally Posted by Reenk Roink
Sorry, I'm just curious about his role.
Were you not the one who wrote my background where my sick dog needed a restoration spell cast that would cost 20 gold and an item of some magical power? :inquisitive: You think I could be heartless enough to let him die! :furious2:Quote:
Originally Posted by Secura
ooc: A restoration spell costing TWENTY FREAKING GOLD? I could buy all the non-unlimited elfroot in the game and make poultices out of them for LESS! That's like a level one skill!
She said "via PM", presumably so that you wouldn't reveal anything important in thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by Reenk Roink
I read it as a joke, are there any dogs in Orzammar? He would have one of these if he had a pet:
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Which, if he were actually telling the truth, would point to him being a Grey Warden with a Mabari Hound, heh.Quote:
Originally Posted by johnhughthom
The phase is now over; I'm going to start working through the results and writeup over the course of the day.
:bow:
Then he probably could just ask his buddy for free...Quote:
Originally Posted by ArpeggiateTHIS
End of Night Two
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Tucked up in bed...
The night passes by without incident, leaving sixteen people to assemble before King Endrin later in the day.
Day Three
Voting concludes at 21:00 GMT, 21/07/10
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On the streets of the Commons
The merchants of Orzammar had been busy arranging their wares long before the guards had emerged; it took hours to haul equipment from homes to stalls, and then there was the presentation of it all... cuirasses fixed upon training dummies, swords propped up against walls. piles of sparkling gems and boxes lined with various tonics.
Following the success of the previous day, where they made a total of seventeen gold, the merchants declared that they would be willing to buy any unwanted equipment from the citizens of Orzammar... for a reasonable price of course!
Additionally, they had some new wares for sale:
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In the Throne Room of the Royal Palace
The king's guests assembled in the Aeducan Throne Room to see that their esteemed host's usual seat was empty; the tanned-skinned Warden was stood in front of it, arms folded and eyes constantly scanning across the room until everyone was in and the doors were shut.
"I am glad to see that you all made it through the night safely", he said with a soft smile visible beneath his trimmed facial hair, "but we have urgent business to attend to."
Duncan turned around and picked up a sizeable warhammer that had been resting on the edge of the throne, then turned back to the crowd and urged them all to look over the well-crafted weapon. He could see that many struggled to lift it, such was the strength of it's previous wielder, and he contemplated retrieving it immediately... but Endrin had been insistent, they had to see for themselves where their suspicions had led.
"This belonged to Reenk Roink", the Grey Warden continued, "and I am sure that you all know what the insignia upon the stone means."
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
The expressions of the crowd turned sour upon seeing the imprint upon the warhammer's stone, and a stark realisation hit them; it was johnhughthom who spoke up first.
"So... Reenk Roink was a member of th-"
Duncan interjected with a sharp nod and a sharper glare; his smile had vanished entirely, and his face bore signs of disdain and regret over the actions taken by the guests. The Grey Wardens and the Legion of the Dead shared much in common, and he felt that there was a sense of kinship between the rarely-trusted Wardens and shunned Legionnaires, particularly when it came to the darkspawn.
"It is likely that he rejoined his fellow legionnaires in the Deep Roads; as I understand it, it's rare that a legionnaire enters Orzammar, and we have no idea what brought him back to the city."
The audience stirred, muttering among themselves until a loud thud shook everyone to the core; ArpeggiateTHIS had dropped the weapon, but Duncan actually welcomed this interruption, using the break in the chatter to speak again.
"Regardless of this turn of events, the king wishes for you to select who you find most trustworthy to have his discarded weapon, in addition to your usual duties of finding the culprit for Lady Dordan's death", Duncan continued, before taking the heavy maul from the hands of a struggling noble and leaving the attending guests to begin their debate.
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Alive: (16/17)
TheFlax
Double A
Beskar
Pinman
Renata
civplayah
Chaotix
ArpeggiateTHIS
Yaseikhaan
Khazaar
Romanic
spL1tp3r50naL1ty
Captain Blackadder
autolycus
johnhughthom
God Emperor
Fled into the Deep Roads:
Reenk Roink
Regarding selling your stuff:
- To sell an item to me, send me a PM with a price you want, and we'll haggle. :P
- Once we're agreed on a price, you'll get the gold immediately and I'll sell your old stuff the next day.
Regarding the items of the fallen:
- Simply vote with the item's name first and the name of the player you want to have the item second, which would be warhammer: Secura in this case
- Remember that the winner is announced in-thread, but you won't be made aware of the item's effects unless you win it.
I'm going to confess this before anybody else does: I was thrown in jail for the duration of last night and thus prevented from carrying out my night actions. Roleblocked.
As you can see, there were no kill attempts made last night, and it only takes a rational townie to come to the conclusion that I should be lynched.
Before town makes an unnecessary kill, I'd like to plead my case before you and try and prove my innocence.
I am a dwarf, and a noble dwarf at that. As previously mentioned, I carry a Dwarven Shortsword and a set of Heavy Dwarven Armour, which add 1 to Strength and Constitution respectively. The first mafia kill attempt was made with an axe, I seem to recall. I do not have an axe, although I cannot immediately prove this to you.
My night actions are not kills but an investigation of sorts. As a noble dwarf, I am searching for a bride with whom I will begin a legacy. On night one, I investigated Romanic and found him to not be a female (am I right, Romanic?). Last night I attempted an investigation on Renata, but was thrown in jail before reaching her location.
Either way, it's up to you whether I should be exiled or killed, but let me assure you that you're making a grave mistake in thinking that I am scum. I've got nothing more to say that can redeem myself in your eyes, although I hope you will all consider my comments and make the connection for yourselves that I'm telling the truth. If not, you can always lynch me next round.
Imprison: Mr THIS
Your story seems plausible, but until a better alternative comes along I think you would be best behind bars.