Six down- four to go to!!: 4 faction slots left

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Originally Posted by polatucos

Hi
first i really love your work with europa barborum..
well i saw the factions list for this mod,and i have to say that the lusitanians were the ancestors of the portuguese and not spanish as you refer on you faction list..
if you could just take a look http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lusitanians there.
and yes im portuguese,im not insulting anyone,i also didnt like how the total war franchise treat the portuguese in medieval,and in empire mainly because in that time period (empire) Portugal was a superpower and it wasnt playable in that game ,i dont understan why but there you go..
so i only registered to say that..also viriathus the leader of the lusitanians was born in Viseu a portuguese city not in spain therefore the lusitanians werent spanish..
i say this as a fan of your work and a student of history !
i hope the mooders see this post ,and thank you!

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I am sorry to say it but you are wrong in most of your statements.

First of all, if you seriously are studing History, wikipedia is not a recommendable source.

Then as the mod team members already pointed out the Lusitanians also populated several areas of the nowadays Spain (Zamora, Salamanca, Extremadura and even more if as some authors say we can link them with the Vettoni), in fact some sources say that Viriathus could be born in Estrella Mounts (nowadays Zamora, Spain) but really nobody knows where he was actually born, it is all a matter of speculation.

You are mixing nationalism with History, since only the romantic authors of the XIX century and the modern nationalists tried to link the portuguese enthity to the Lusitanians as their proud and independent ancestors; when in fact we could ironically say it would be a wrong stuff, since even in that optic we could say more properly that medieval Portugal -basis of the modern state- was found by gallaecian ancestor tribes (Gallaechians populated north of Durius river where is settled Oporto and Braga, main cities of the first Portuguese entities) and as furthermore independent part of the Kingdom of Galicia and León (being simple: Port of Galaecia = Portucale, Callaeci = Portugal). But anyway this is a modern problem and has nothing to do with history. Lusitanians -whoever they were- actually have few to say to the nowadays portuguese or spanish national States.

Anyway, from your point of view, I don't understand your rage since Lussotanan -that you see as your ancestors- are fully represented in your game as the only faction in Iberia, in a way really good since two of the team members were portuguese, so you could be proud enough and more (and what it is more I never saw in the game that "confusion" you quoted).

When in my honest opinion that I stated in a previous post long time ago and that it was closed, I think they shouldn't be in the mod because of several reasons I pointed out there that I won't explain again, I know it sounds rough but I tried to explain it there. Well, in my theory I think ancient Iberia would be better represented in this mod with two factions, regarded to the indoeuropean and the iberian (pre-indouropean) cultures in the peninsula as the two different Worlds they actually were: in the indoeuropean side I would select a celtiberian one (because of their higher development, panoply, resistence against romans, urbanism, client settlements system, cultural influece and reference for all the indoeuropean Iberia, etc), for example the Arevacii, or better I would vote for a more historically accurate confederacy of Celtiberians (as a previous example of the Khoinon Hellenon in the mod); and finally a Iberian one, here I don't have enough knowledge to say what one, but I would say first Turdetani (recovering inheritances of Tartessos, really high urbanism, warfare and chief states) or the Illergetai-Edetani (quite good oponent for romans and good fortresses, warfare).

Still, you see EB modders and members, as I say there is a nationalism wing in some decissions and here with this Polatucos guy, you have a vivid example of how some people usually know their story, and how some of your members could influence your team to take a wrong decission, in my honest opinion. Decission that after all I respect as player -more in the best mod of Total War of all time-; and even I would ironize: as a galician guy myself that prefer play with Lusitanian close to the gallaechian than the imperialist celtiberians of perfidous Castille-Spain and the Iberians from african ancestors allied with colonizers... just kidding. No, seriously, as historian, I don't agree with the current situation, I am not nationalist as the real nationalist said of me in that thread -pointing out their own faults-, I just tried there to show some historical accuracy and according to the mod mechanism.

PD.
Sorry if I somebody could see this words as somehow disturbing, I don't pretend it, but at this time I thought necessary to enlight some historical and mod facts regarding to this post and that thread, still probably I wrote too much.

It's a long time since I don't read the forum nor play this fantastic mod and I am glad to see the EB2 project is still in works and with good future.

Thanks EB team and keep it high.

The EB team used a list of criteria to decide which factions to include in EB1. I don't know if these criteria have been changed for EB2, but even if they still are the same, the current faction list isn't the only possible outcome. For example, you could argue that the Sarmatians and the Lusotanians never stood a chance, and should be replaced by Syracuse and the Bosporean Kingdom. It depends on which criteria are considered more important, and a number of practical considerations such how information is available and whether there's someone to do the work.

So it isn't helpful to claim that a disagreement over faction choice must be the result of nationalism. The team may have used other criteria than you have, may have had insufficient information, or it may just have been a practical decision. More importantly, such claims make constructive discussion difficult, since they force it away from the decision to include a faction, and onto the person who made that decision.

So please drop the accusations of nationalism. You are free to argue your case, you are free to think the EB team was wrong, as long as you attack the argument rather than the team members or other posters.

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You are free to argue your case, you are free to think the EB team was wrong, as long as you attack the argument rather than the team members or other posters.

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I already did it in that thread and I was the first being called nationalist or other things.

But be sure I won't intend to continue that "ancient" discussion, nor try to defend again my claims about the matter nor any other in this forum. They were enough defended there or tried to, even with the wrong things that were said (me too).

I know, at least in the past, by following the mod team critheria -and as it is understood because of the work and problems intended- the current factions won't be removed. So I claimed there for a celtiberian new faction plus the lusitanian one.

But what it is more, and to show you that I am being just enthusiast for History and accuracy, It is hard to me to say it but I would say today that I would prefer a Turdetani faction or other one reflecting the Iberian-preindoeuropean World of the ancient Peninsula, than a Celtiberian one if that means to have a Lusitanian one too (as this latter is known and not under question). Then we would have both ancient worlds represented -not properly since we would have an Ist Iron Age tribe without urbanism, panoply, etc.. as Indoeuropean representant and with a IInd panoply celtiberian Iron Age one, just a matter of nouns and nuclear settlements after all- but still nearby accurate than having two indoeuropeans and any iberian-mediterranean one in the other side. It is my honest opinion, still after defend the celtiberian faction. Some people that is supporting the Arevacii faction would find this strange, but this is the last I have to say.

Grettings.

PD. Edit:

But well after reading the thread, speaking as a simple player I still agree with the majority that just add a supossed new faction for Iberia depicted with the Arevaci along/plus with the current Lusotanna, it would be the easier, and most confortable situation to balance Iberia gameplay, and probably the happier for all of us.

Just an opinion, the real hardworkers -the EB team- have to balance all the matters, resources and then take decissions, and this is not probably really easy most of times. Because of that, I am sorry if I have been disrespectful sometimes. After all we all fully enjoy your works.

4 Factions to go...

Mmmmhm ...

I would say that Media Atropatene is a contender...

Along with Iberia...

The other two factions I wouldn't know... Im not too educated :P

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Originally Posted by eddy_purpus

The other two factions I wouldn't know... Im not too educated :P

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Then start here! History of the ancient world is very interesting and multi-sided.

XSamatan

uhhhmmm - I wasn't online that much in the recent weeks, but did somebody noticed the new (as far as I know) occultus-Signature of konny in this thread?!? https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...Mid-Game-Blues -I for myself see some grey wolf-skin or something...

give us good guesses!

I'm pretty sure that's the one from the bosphoran kingdom.

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Originally Posted by Hotseat_User

I for myself see some grey wolf-skin or something...

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Looks more like a bat....or maybe a bunny rabbit.

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Originally Posted by rickinator9

I'm pretty sure that's the one from the bosphoran kingdom.

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Did the Bosphoran Kingdom get previewed already?

No, they just mentioned it in one of the other previews

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Originally Posted by Kull

maybe a bunny rabbit.

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I have suspected this faction for some time.

http://www.wolfire.com/lugaru

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Originally Posted by Blxz

I have suspected this faction for some time.

http://www.wolfire.com/lugaru

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no comment....

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Originally Posted by Ibrahim

no comment....

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You don't like indie games? I must admit I have never played this one because it is decidedly weird looking but someone linked it to me only 3 days ago so it's fresh on the mind.

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Originally Posted by Blxz

You don't like indie games? I must admit I have never played this one because it is decidedly weird looking but someone linked it to me only 3 days ago so it's fresh on the mind.

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:laugh4:

actually, I'm into indie games. I was just left speechless by the fact that anyone would propose a rabbit-based faction :clown:

(in short, my last comment was a joke).

That's an anachonism, the Lugaru kingdom was subdued by the Bartix in 290 Bc.

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Originally Posted by Ca Putt

That's an anachonism, the Lugaru kingdom was subdued by the Bartix in 290 Bc.

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who in turn were subdued by the Tarbosaurus katanks :clown:

That was 150 BC, way after starting date!

btw: Indie games FTW!

May I interrupt you with some wild guesses? :rolleyes::laugh4:

Hopefully:
- one of the various celtiberian tribes already mentioned
- a second arabian faction
- Kimbri
- an ethiopian faction (as far as my knowledge goes there where quite a few links to certain culture groups that are already in the mod ... :creep: )

Probably:
- Belgae
- Arevaci
- Helvetii, Rhaetii or something similar
- Atropatene

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Originally Posted by Shadowwalker

May I interrupt you with some wild guesses? :rolleyes::laugh4:

Hopefully:
- one of the various celtiberian tribes already mentioned
- a second arabian faction
- Kimbri
- an ethiopian faction (as far as my knowledge goes there where quite a few links to certain culture groups that are already in the mod ... :creep: )

Probably:
- Belgae
- Arevaci
- Helvetii, Rhaetii or something similar
- Atropatene

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I don't think Kush will be in, due to culture limits IIRC.

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Originally Posted by Ibrahim

:laugh4:

actually, I'm into indie games. I was just left speechless by the fact that anyone would propose a rabbit-based faction :clown:

(in short, my last comment was a joke).

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I go through dense moments occasionally. Totally missed your meaning that time. =)

ibrahim i still think that the heterogenes culture (eastern greeks) will be merged with the western greeks giving up one free culture slot wich can be filled by axum or meroe or even god forbid the garamantines (god forbid because they would be a bigger hinderance on the karta hadast more then on the ptolemaioi)

Would be nice to free up the faction slots but the portraits would be all messed up then. And remember that they have added the Mauryan satraph to the Eastern Greek Culture slot. Doing as you suggested would preclude that new faction from being plausible. So I think, based on that evidence alone, that this will not happen.

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Originally Posted by moonburn

ibrahim i still think that the heterogenes culture (eastern greeks) will be merged with the western greeks giving up one free culture slot wich can be filled by axum or meroe or even god forbid the garamantines (god forbid because they would be a bigger hinderance on the karta hadast more then on the ptolemaioi)

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yeah, but then you run into the problem of how to represent the former accurately: the governments are different, the buildings are, etc.

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Originally Posted by Blxz

And remember that they have added the Mauryan satraph to the Eastern Greek Culture slot.

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Actually, Taksashilla has been added to the Eastern culture group, not the East Greek culture group.

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Originally Posted by Mithridates VI Eupator

Actually, Taksashilla has been added to the Eastern culture group, not the East Greek culture group.

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I take this as a (very) faint hint that I can continue to hope for a totally surprising faction decision. ;-)
That reminds me - I remember someone from the team (Moros?) saying that there is a faction that noone ever guessed so far. Did this change by now?
Or in other words - do all we players still neglect a faction that perhaps will be in EBII?
Or was the faction Moros (?) spoke of the Lugiones?

(In some way I'm feeling like a child short before christmas again when it comes to EB - with the serious difference that the "Tomorrow there will be presents' time and I just can't wait any longer to see what I get!" phase lasts for a couple of years already.... :laugh4: )

considering moros is dealing with the middle east, it's probably from the region....

I hope it isn't arabia. I just don't like the region. That region only has like 5 provinces. I also don't like the lightly armored troops the saba have.

The team said several times that it was Taksashila, but who believes them after that anyway? :P

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Originally Posted by rickinator9

I hope it isn't arabia. I just don't like the region. That region only has like 5 provinces. I also don't like the lightly armored troops the saba have.

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How do you know what units they'll have?

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Originally Posted by rickinator9

I hope it isn't arabia. I just don't like the region. That region only has like 5 provinces. I also don't like the lightly armored troops the saba have.

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well, considering some of the information I have with me, It's certainly a very strong possibility. besides, Saba is underrated.

Well Nabatea confirmed as newest addition to the EB roster.

Ps. Original post amended to reflect recent developments. Also Media-Atropatene removed as probable contender in view of above.

Bump for the Ambiani or Bellovaci, the Ardiaei and the Arevaci ^^
All in neat "empty" areas, relevant, expansionistic, each representing a different culture and afaik present in 272 BC...
Not to mention they were the "power houses" in their respecting regions in the early-mid 3rd century BC :)

I soooooo hope for Arevaci!

I think the Arevaci are a pretty good bet. The best on the list certainly.

What about the Remi? I know that by Caesar's time they were powerful but does anyone know what their stature was around 272?

The question is not which Celto-Iberian faction will occupy the 3rd slot- but rather who could the remaining two be??

Especially now that the EB team have conclusively demonstrated that any faction being denied has a proportionally higher chance of being included...

We can say Atropatene isn't going to be in. It would be impossible to fight against the seleucids and it would make the Hai even more difficult.

I think we will see a Baltic faction as most of the land there is still unused.

For an Iberian faction, maybe the Cantabri(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cantabri) might be a good one: it was one of the last Iberian tribes to hold out against the Romans.

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We can say Atropatene isn't going to be in. It would be impossible to fight against the seleucids and it would make the Hai even more difficult.

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Yeah, although I'd like to see them (interesting Persian revival), afaik they held mountain passes and highlands, but settled to side with whichever ethnos allowed them local administrative autonomy...

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I think we will see a Baltic faction as most of the land there is still unused.

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I recall the team saying how the Baltic was added (at least partially) to the Eremos region; not to mention the Lugiones are right there...

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For an Iberian faction, maybe the Cantabri

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Not the most powerful around the 3rd century BC, but you never know :)

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What about the Remi?

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Must confess I do not know much about them in the 3rd century and also among the Belgae they are quite close (culturally speaking) to Gallia...
Not sure, but I think they actually migrated or eventually got surrounded by incoming Belgae...

I think everyone seems to agree that the Arevaci are a sinch. Even the EB team won't directly deny it, therefore I absolutely agree. Arevaci = in.

As for the other two, I'll bring up two of my old favorites: Kartli, and the Scordisci (or Tylis). But a part of the Belgae seems very likely too.

Is there only 1 faction slot left of the 6, or 2? I can't keep track of it all!

(hopefully for Brennus's sake it's the Belgae, otherwise he'll go mad... well, madder than he already is...)

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Must confess I do not know much about them in the 3rd century and also among the Belgae they are quite close (culturally speaking) to Gallia...
Not sure, but I think they actually migrated or eventually got surrounded by incoming Belgae...

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Fortunately I do.

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What about the Remi? I know that by Caesar's time they were powerful but does anyone know what their stature was around 272?

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Like a wolf downwind from a carcass, Brennus smells the mention of the Belgae and comes running. During the Gallic Wars the Remi were indeed very powerful, however it was only because of Roman interference in the region. In the preceding centuries they had been the junior partner in the Suessione-Remi nation (Caesar notes that the Remi and Suessiones shared the same government, archaeology attests to this in the numismatic record). Because the Suessiones had decided to oppose Caesar he elevated the normally weaker Remi to a position of superiority, in 272BC it is likely the Suessiones were still the dominant partner of the two.

The Belgae were very similar to the Gauls (The Remi-Suessiones more so than the others) but at the same time they had some key differences. Whereas the majority of Gallic nations have a long pedigree in the region (you trace their settlements back into the Halstatt period) the Belgae were relative newcomers. Evidence suggests that unlike the Aedui, Arverni and other Gallic civitates the Belgae arrived from elsewhere in Europe at the start of the 3rd century BC, displacing the native Marnian culture (some of who may have fled to Britain as a result, thus resulting in the British Arras culture of the Parisii) in the process. A specific type of anklet worn by the women links the Belgae to the Danube and it may be the case that the chieftain Bolgios who took part in the Celtic invasions of the Balkans and Macedon was the eponymous founder of the idea of being "Belgian" as we are told he returned west after his attacks. In addition to this a study conducted in the 1950s by the eminent German archaeologists Kossack and Kuhn suggests that there were some key differences in Belgic and Gallic, as Caesar suggests in De Bello Gallico. Unlike some I am not going to suggest that the Belgae were "Germans" but rather they were certainly trans-Rhine in origin, "Germani" likely being a Gallic word for neighbour.

I personally would argue the Bellovaci would be the logical tribe to include to represent the Belgae. First of all they lived in the region Caesar calls "Belgium", a distinct region within the larger area of Belgica, the Remi-Suessiones did not. Secondly the Bellovaci, along with the Caleti, Ambiani and Atrebates appear to have formed a distinct archaeological and political unit (the aforementioned Belgium), as evidenced by a particular type of temple constructed in their territory and the tendency of these tribes to fight together against Caesar, it would also mean that the expansive Atrebates could be included as part of the Bellovaci (thus making conquest of the Pritanoi an objective for a player using the Bellovaci). The final point to briefly make is we know that the Bellovaci, by the 1st centuy BC were allies of the Aedui and were actively taking part in Gallic politics to the south.

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(hopefully for Brennus's sake it's the Belgae, otherwise he'll go mad... well, madder than he already is...)

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LOL! Hopefully I can get my work in the Campus Martius finished soon and be allowed to work on them (that is if they are a faction.... like the new kid at the office I am only told what I need to know), I would love the opportunity to preview them to everyone.

It's very difficult to make a guess about the Occultus faction(in Bobbin's sig).. There only seems to be a few banners here and there and as far as I know, there's only one variety(which doesn't give us too much information). We do however know that it's an animal, but not a bird

Its the Nabatu faction icon.

https://img651.imageshack.us/img651/...abatuicon5.png

I can see that now. Are there any unsolved occultus sigs left?

my bet is still on the arevaci and then maybe just maybe the ethiopians (now meroe or axum beats me but both have safe starting positions and with those gold mines and pachiderm cabs they can stand their own against the ptolemaioi making the campaign for the ptolemaioi funnier and more balanced wich might stop them from eating up the seulekids wich are totally surrounded by people wanting a peace of them , must be the fact that they seem fat and tasty)

also someone mentioned me the khwarziams i went to check where they where and discovered they where "part" of the parni/parthians/phalava or at least in the same territory

also a 3rd iberian faction wouldn´t be out of the equation with the illergetes seeming the best choise by far since they can impose themselfs on gallia and iberia making the campaign far more fun

also why not the bituriges they where once great they still had the potencial for greatness by taking away bits of power from the ongoing civil strife in gallia comanded by the aedui and arverni (altough i´ve read somewhere they where conected somehow to the arverni)

also the noricene could be a good call and even the tylians

skordisci with the joining of the boii seem a bit far fetched but damm their cordinau orca rulle and just that unit would make them a viable faction alone

if the team wishes to piss off the spanish and french they could create a basque faction (now that would make eb know all over the world with all the bitching that the spanish and french goverments would make )

but my great wuv would undoutably be the syrakousay the great hoplon that defends magna graecia against the karchedoi greed and the roman abuses against the poor and helpless greeks the great sea batles for the reconquering of the western mediterranean and the signing for a great pan greek western union with emporion massilia and tarentum \o

but that last one is a myth and a dream but what a sweet dream ^^

I know that which factions are in are purely based on historical research but I can't help looking at the map with a gamers eye.

I'm thrilled that my favourites Baktria and Kart-Hadast are going to have a more interesting time and I'm relieved that the Arevaci are probably going to be in but assuming there will also be a Gallic/Belgae faction I am curious about the last faction as there does not seem to anywhere else it is 'needed' on the map.

So basically my question is where else would a faction go where it would be really needed?

Personally I hope they split up Konin Hellen, add in a cheeky greek city state, or preferably something else in Britian. I know that these options have been denied by the team but who here believes a word they say :rolleyes2:.

in terms of need the ethiopian faction ofc or maybe even the eastern numidians or belgae anywhere where there is room

in terms of historical acuraccy syrakuse (+ western greeks ) or a 3rd iberian faction (there where 4 major sub groups in iberian) or even the galatians tylians and skordisci maybe a ressurgent yuhezi

in tactical terms the illyrians or the norici or some type of alpine faction like the helvetii or even the aquitani or biturige

Has atnother satrapy faction like Bactira chance?
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...ps_babylon.png


By the way;

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An excellent visual representation by Casual Tactician at the TWC:
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Actually I made it: http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=462155

Actually I made it: http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=462155

Edited and corrected. :shame:

My bet is on a new Iberian faction. The map is simply too empty in Iberia and this region shouldn't be easy to conquer. I'm also sure that one more Iberian tribe deserves faction status. Celtiberians?

Syracuse is a bad idea even for purely gameplay reasons, as AI-controlled Syracuse would be conquered either by the Carthaginians or the Romans within ten years in 99% of games. It would be a waste of a faction slot.

except that historically syracuse was never conquered until the carthaginian threat disapeared and they had a 50 year old alliance with the romans so depending on how well the diplomacy works syracuse even being controlled by the ai as a fairly good chance to survive for a very long time

syracuse is/was one of the most populous cities in the world by 271 (being the biggest greek city in the world according to the early greeks even tough it stood behinde places like seulekeia babylon or alexandreia in population wise imho)

I find that Syracuse usually lasts longer than Pontos in EB1. I suspect it lasts longer than the average EB1 campaign does. However, I've a reasonably strong memory of it being ruled out.

Is the title of this thread still accurate? Is it 2 or 3 faction slots left? I can't even remember!

3 slots left.

Any hints you can give us Bobbin? :creep:

Ah but for hints naturally, I'm your man.

~:)

I believe the question was addressed to Bobbin *glares* :duel:


Haha oh no Moros! I can't say I'm looking forward to your mind games...

in my opinion we really need a RUSSIAn nation but what tribes lived up there?

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in my opinion we really need a RUSSIAn nation but what tribes lived up there?

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Sarmatians and Scythians across much of southern Russia and Ukraine, some Celts on the Dniepr (of whom we know nearly nothing), Greeks in the Crimea and Uralic tribes in Northern Russia (for whom we have no historical data, only archaeological).

sorry i mean a northern faction on the baltic

I believe much of that area will be impassible now, so I'd say the likelihood of a faction in that area would be none.

What no Novgorod in EB2?

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sorry i mean a northern faction on the baltic

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I think you will have to settle for Lugiones' expansion in the area and possibly new units representing eastern and northern Balts...

not to mention that there aren´t that many :daisy: **cough** i mean slots opened and since 1 is for the arevaci and another one for meroe or axum and 1 for script purposes (i think) the batle for a place in is very hard with very hard contestors such as the nervii the tylians syracuse yuezhi (someone remembers that the map was expanded further east?) kwarzharians the other numidians mauritanians cyrene the autoriates(yllirians) noricene and so forth and then there´s the last few expected one´s like the illergetes and 50 yards of :daisy: after comes a faction that would have to be totally imagined and scratched off from a dump someone took 2.500 years ago to try and guess their looks their weapons their names social hierarchy political stand and so forth

Wow, I can count 7 factions on that list that we have repeatedly stated will not be in EBII, better luck next time!:clown:


Also watch the language next time.

sorry i was in a foul mood and decided to steam off in the internet

moonburn do you know when you are being ignored?

Hey guise.

Hows it going? Any news on new factions? I've been outta town(twc and org) for quite a while.

Hopefully it's still undergoing development, I need this mod as much as I need a gf ;_;

Any news on our friend Foot?

Moros, hint me a hint on any new factions, we all deserve :) ps, you rock manggggggggggggggggg

I believe the first release is coming along quite well and hopefully will be upon us within a year. However, as far as factions are concerned, it would appear the EB team still has not determined who will fill the final few slots.

Lads, if I could tell you what I know, you know I would.

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Lads, if I could tell you what I know, you know I would.

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I heard that torture works wonders...

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I heard that torture works wonders...

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Lol! Well at the risk of getting in trouble... Watch this space, something, indeed a few things, are being prepared as we speak.

Brenus.... Well, what do you know :D?
Do you know if EB is still being WIP? or if they took a little break?

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They're still working on it mate. Bit by bit, little by little, they're slowly working on it.

I'm hoping we get spoilt soon with a new screen shot or Moros riddle. Actually scratch that, I'd rather not start the mind games with Moros! ...Or would I?... (let the mind games begin)

Well each team member, as you know, has their own area of expertise. Over the weekend I will be writing unit descriptions and writing a chapter on a culture which, although not an EBII faction, is very important for one new (soon to be announced) faction and provides very good units for at least 4 factions, if not 6. This is all part of a faction preview I have taken over after the last few researchers disappeared. I hope to have it ready for you guys soon! I won't say who the faction is, in fact I have probably said too much, but I will say that this new faction will be a thorn in the literal side of two of your favourite EB factions. "Stay close to the coast, there are wolves in the hills".

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Originally Posted by Brennus

Well each team member, as you know, has their own area of expertise. Over the weekend I will be writing unit descriptions and writing a chapter on a culture which, although not an EBII faction, is very important for one new (soon to be announced) faction and provides very good units for at least 4 factions, if not 6. This is all part of a faction preview I have taken over after the last few researchers disappeared. I hope to have it ready for you guys soon! I won't say who the faction is, in fact I have probably said too much, but I will say that this new faction will be a thorn in the literal side of two of your favourite EB factions. "Stay close to the coast, there are wolves in the hills".

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No need for me to post a hint anymore. ~:)

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Originally Posted by Brennus

Well each team member, as you know, has their own area of expertise. Over the weekend I will be writing unit descriptions and writing a chapter on a culture which, although not an EBII faction, is very important for one new (soon to be announced) faction and provides very good units for at least 4 factions, if not 6. This is all part of a faction preview I have taken over after the last few researchers disappeared. I hope to have it ready for you guys soon! I won't say who the faction is, in fact I have probably said too much, but I will say that this new faction will be a thorn in the literal side of two of your favourite EB factions. "Stay close to the coast, there are wolves in the hills".

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basque culture units for the arevaci? at least that is my guess

There are no Basque culture units in EBII.

If I'd have to guess which faction you are working on I'd guess a belgian one :D

You'll know soon enough. Good things come to those who wait...

since there´s already luigii and sweaboz i won´t be betting in the chatti and considering brennus expertise it must be a keltik faction so either belgiums or arevaci but the 4 to 6 factions leaves me wondering

2 gaulish factions 2 iberian factions 1 roman faction since the numidians aren´t suposed to pass the straight unleass the illergettes are also being considered wich would explain the 4 to 6 since no gaul is going to go over the pyrinees before they remove the other enemy ... or syracuse is also in with their goals to reach arsé and emporium and unite the free greek city´s of the western mediterranean \o (or ofc considering emporium rebelling to the kh wich would make up for the 6th faction)

another possible faction being the scordiscii triballoi or tylians wich also explains the 4 to 6 factions altough the tylians are like (maks epirotes kh getai seulekids ptolemaioi arevaci/eduii wich means 7 factions) so maybe just maybe the galatians ? nahh i was the orca´s not the wild naked perv :\

let the mind games begin ...