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All in all, it's three reasons to vote you against one for voting me.
Why so? You can be a detective genius at scum tells, and with you playing up, I know you're town. So it makes sense not to lynch you as it would waste our time and allow the cat to eat another. Not going to give that cat an easy time, if they want rid of you, they need to eat you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Winston Hughes
How do we know that the cat is the only scummo, again?
Unvote, Vote: Beskar
die scum
How do you know he's scum? He's not even voting for me.
4 El Barto: Winston, Pelican, autolycus, Beskar
4 autolycus: GeneralHankerchief, atheotes, BSmith, Al Sipsclar
3 Winston: El Barto, edse, Khaan
1 atheotes: Double A
1 Beskar: Zack
No Vote : Jolt
5 1/2 hours to go.
And let's not forget the fact that you're Zack. Do you have no decency?Quote:
Originally Posted by Zack
Well, this is a matter of choosing between two people who vote for El Barto, 100% certified town. unvote; vote:Autolycus.
Is that a rhetorical question?Quote:
Originally Posted by Double A
DAY HAS ENDED
Eating dinner, writeup commences soon.
Was it a decent rhetorical question?Quote:
Originally Posted by El Barto
Dammit, that woman has you eating at normal-person hours. This is definite proof you're not making up this marriage thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy
Hmm, since you seem to lack any discernible traces of dignity, I am forced to conclude that it's not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Double A
End of Day Two
Bird was a very kind and loving Bird. Bird was gathering food for his lovely partner. But it seems someone left the gate to the habitat wide open. Bird wandered outside, wondering what it was like out there. Instead, he found cat.
Other bird wondered where first Bird went off to. Followed trail of feathers and saw little bird feets laying in the grass.
Then cat came and feasted on other bird! They were lover masons!
This is what it sounds like when doves cry.
https://i205.photobucket.com/albums/...psiznb7o3b.jpg
Alive and predatorial birds:
Kiwikhaan
BirdSmith
Resplendent quetzack
Pelican
Albatross Sipsclar
aletheotes
edseedsnipe
Winstone-curlew
General Hawkerchief
Yellow-barto loon
Besrakar
Doubleday's hummingbird
Dead:
Pigeon
Emu- Sooh
Turtle Dove- Autolycus
Turtle Dove- Jolt
BEGIN NIGHT TWO!!!!
*facepalm* You didn't think to claim masons or lovers?
:laugh4: Amusingly accurate. It would have meant one extra shot against Cat and it would have forced the Cat to kill them, rather than hit something more substainal like a roleblocker or doctor.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Barto
Yes… I'd rather have died myself then. :shrug:
End of Night Two
Bird was restless after the death of Turtledove couple.
Bird thought to himself, life is short. Live now, die later, but LIVE, bird dang it!
And so Bird decided he would go out clubbing. He wore his finest feathers, they were all gelled up so they'd be extra pointy.
I guess what I saying is, **it be bangin', I mean seriously, chick this out:
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You can't tell Bird that that **it ain't be bangin', dog. I'm telling you that Bird can't hold back all this sexy and he's going to get so much hen action tonight, eggs be rollin like thunder. **it be electric. Bird be blowin' up in the club and no cat gonna stop him from gettin' his hen on, you feel me, dog?
Anyway Bird get to club, and he start to dance. And the hens be noticing how much he got game. Don't even pretend like they not looking.
Bird decide to give the honeys a little show. Bird tear open his feather jacket and reveal sexy chest:
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Awww yeah honey. You know you want some of this. Bird pump up his chest, and he not even need to work out. That's just how it naturally be. Chest pump up like basketball sneakers, and that's how Bird starts to jam.
I see the ladies checking Bird out. Oh honey, seriously, are you sure you can even handle all this raw, uncensored male flesh? Hen might be fittin to pass out and Bird don't know if he can stop gettin his mack on to come rescue hen. Hen has to know for sure she can handle man of this size.
Don't think that's impressive? Here, side shot. Let Bird flex for hen in profile. Then tell Bird you don't want all of this Bird meat.
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That right, hen. You best step off if you feeling faint because erry other hen in the club want Bird. Look at how this chick can't keep her eyes off of Bird's rippling inflatable neck sacs.
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She know she want it. That's why she keep pretending to look away. But what about you, haven't seen you hen around the habitat lately. What up girl?
That's fine, you don't have to talk to Bird, be shy. Play hard to get. There plenty other hen in the pen.
You kind of strange looking hen anyway. What that you pointing at Bird's face?
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
Alive and predatorial birds:
Kiwikhaan
BirdSmith
Resplendent quetzack
Pelican
Albatross Sipsclar
aletheotes
edseedsnipe
Winstone-curlew
General Hawkerchief
Besrakar
Doubleday's hummingbird
Dead:
Pigeon
Emu- Sooh
Turtle Dove- Autolycus
Turtle Dove- Jolt
Greater sage-grouse- El Barto
BEGIN DAY THREE!!!
Countdown to End of Day Three
I meant in the lynch last turn. Sheesh, mafia, get it right.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Barto
Being honest, it is an interesting move, especially since I would have thought you was a contender for today too, so it makes more sense to keep you alive from my perspective.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Barto
Also, wasn't a cat that killed you, but a gun from a bird looking creature? Previous Night-kill was from an exploding bird? Only recent cat-like feature was the end of day lynch. I am not sure what the behind the scenes plot is (or if Pizza is just being Pizza and winging it)
So, here are my current feels on a "likely scale" based on some logic I am not sharing. (I would come under 'Undecided' with same logic)
Suspected: Sharekhaan, Zack, Al Sipsclar
Undecided: GeneralHanky, Edse
Less Likely: BSmith, atheotes, Winston, Double A, Pelican
My gut is saying 'khaan, I think he is most likely our culprit and would recommend him unless there is a better suggestion.
Vote: Seireikhaan
Well, Winston looks better now that El Barto died.
Vote: Beskar, based on his own logic.
Anyone heavily involved with yesterday isn't scum, we need to go looking elsewhere.
Vote: Pelican
My own logic doesn't put me as scum. Knowing myself regardless of knowing my town role, I wouldn't have killed El Barto because it would be removing lynch bait, so I rather have the town pointlessly going after him whilst I stayed in the background.Quote:
Originally Posted by edse
I only spoke up because I am having good indications of who it could be.
I don't think it is Pelican, too inactive. But I agree that it is probably someone who isn't active much, who tends to do it as scum. ie: someone like seireikhaan.Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
Visor's not even playing but he's one of your maybes?
Who kills Tak?
Zack kills Tak.
vote: Zack
Yeah, Vote: Zack
FOS: GH for trying to divert attention elsewhere.
Vote: Beskar
He is mr. scum
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Originally Posted by Winston Hughes
:dizzy2:Quote:
Originally Posted by Al Sipsclar
Vote: Zack
I'll buy it.
Have we not agreed that singular wagons are bad?Quote:
Originally Posted by Al Sipsclar
run on sentence, over-explainingQuote:
Originally Posted by Beskar
You know he's town? He's a genius? Trying to pocket, are we?Quote:
Originally Posted by Beskar
More talk about the cats' plans.
More talk about cats' plans and their mechanics.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beskar
MORE TALK ABOUT CATS' PLANS AND THEIR MECHANICS.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beskar
Here is my big sexy reads list, I will not explain anything on it so there's nothing to scrutinize.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beskar
MORE TALK ABOUT CATS' PLANS AND THEIR MECHANICS.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beskar
Too inactive to be scum? But you think the scum aren't active? huhQuote:
I don't think it is Pelican, too inactive. But I agree that it is probably someone who isn't active much, who tends to do it as scum. ie: someone like seireikhaan.
Why is Beskar so preoccupied with what the mafia are thinking? Why is he constantly wondering about what the mafia are doing? Probably because he's had those same thoughts in the mafia QT. Combined with his pocketing, buddy-buddy, don't rock the boat attitude = scum.
I don't know why on the org I am always lynched early for really dumb reasons. It goes back years, and I am always town when it happens.
unvote; vote: Beskar
I like Zack's case, and want to help him bus his scumbuddy.
climb aboard!Quote:
Originally Posted by Winston Hughes
https://i.imgur.com/pKsCQas.gif
Right, scum loves competing wagons on townies, like yesterday. Sometimes you have to consolidate.Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
I'll be the third, Unvote; vote: BeskarQuote:
Originally Posted by Zack
This early in the round, with literally no other discussion taking place?Quote:
Originally Posted by Al Sipsclar
at least one of beskar and al sipsclar is scum, guaranteed
I'll bet 20 gold that at least 2 out of GH, Zack, or Beskar are scum.
whyQuote:
Originally Posted by Al Sipsclar
So the moral of this game so far is clearly "if a person makes a post they're likely to be scum".
Unvote: Pelican
Vote: Al Sipsclar
Pretty much.Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
I think the reason Zack is so touchy is because he is infact Scum. He is flying right off that handle, because I already nabbed him as suspected. :laugh4: Anyone who thinks I am genuinely scum needs to step up their A-game.
unvote; vote: Zack
They are scum because they have been randed as such. Or do you want to know why people bet? Or why I think they are scum? Well, these decisions are often made on an impulse, and regretted later. Gut feelings.
where did i fly off the handle? what a pathetic omgusQuote:
Originally Posted by Beskar
for that matter, as if I never fly off the handle as town. you don't know what you're talking about beskar
Well, if I give away the logic behind the information, then it will foil the logic of the said information in the next round. Since my list was narrowed down to 3 suspects, I thought I might as well post it before I end up getting night-killed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zack
Well, there is a fundamental difference between lurking - Reading the thread, and choosing not to respond. Compared with "I am not even accessing the website" level of inactivity.Quote:
Too inactive to be scum? But you think the scum aren't active? huh
Classic Pity-Call. Usually used in desperation by mafiaso.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zack
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Main problem is, I nailed 'khaan and he used the opportunity to jump on your bandwagon, and you are setting fireworks all over the place to actually distract the town. All a lynch will do is simply confirm that I am a bird.
So yeah, I am a vanilla town. Lynch me, it doesn't matter, it avoids a pro-town role going bye-bye. I am not a power-role or a turtle dove. All my death will achieve is prove my suspicions are pretty solid, that you are possibly in fact scum, and you want to get rid of me because you are feeling hot'n'bothered with my finger pointing. With reveal on death, it would have been smarter to bandwagon someone else, because it would buy you a round or two to argue, compared with now, where all a lynch would do is prove I am town and my fat-bird wings are directly pointed at you and your scum buddy.
:book2:Quote:
possibly in fact
Well, you posted four times in a row because I said you are a suspect, and you are covering up for 'khaan big time. Only reason you would do that is because your team just got nailed and desperation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zack
Unvote; Vote: Zack
I was voting you yesterday, your insistence that I'm saving khaan is ridiculous.
I will be disappointed if you weren't and turned out to be town, as you have been actively working to misdirect and distract everyone.
Yep, a scum used it right here:Quote:
Originally Posted by Beskar
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Originally Posted by Beskar
beskar, what do you think about al sipsclar?
I didn't use a pity-call. I said I am okay with dying, because I am a vanilla townie so it doesn't matter too much. :shrug: All killing me does is actually give weight to my accusations, because role reveal will show I am a bird.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zack
A pity-call is going "don't lynch me, I always get lynched! It is like every game.. just.. lynched. Please please please don't."
So what you linked is the opposite. Are you able to tell the difference in these things?
Because your other accusation of 'pocketing' was off the mark too. Winton Hughes said he was terribly busy and he wanted to quit the game as he didn't have time for it, so I was attempting to build him up as a Night-Kill target, so the mafia would waste the kill on a possible inactive who wanted to leave. However, Winston as my list says, is probably town, and he has been quite active, so he is useful to keep around.
To quote from game:
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Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy
Understand?Quote:
Originally Posted by Winston Hughes
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Look at the list.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zack
I didn't use a pity-call. I said lynching me for dumb reasons (at the time, literally only reason given was "he could have killed El Barto") never works out. :shrug: All killing me does is actually give weight to my accusations, because role reveal will show I am a bird.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beskar
A pity-call is going "Woe is me, you might as well lynch me you fools!"
So what you linked is the opposite. Are you able to tell the difference in these things?
I... what? What townie thinks this way?Quote:
I was attempting to build him up as a Night-Kill target, so the mafia would waste the kill on a possible inactive who wanted to leave.
I don't give a shit about the list because you didn't give any reasoning. And Al has done a bunch of scummy things since then anyways.Quote:
Look at the list.
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Originally Posted by Zack
I have to address this in a simple and obvious way:Quote:
Originally Posted by Zack
Red Team: How to succeed by thinking like the enemy.
If you are not trying to think like the Mafia to work out who they are, then you are playing this game wrong. :shrug:
Whole concept mafia is working out what the other person is thinking and why they are making the moves they do. It is like a chess game, not only do you question your opponent, but you question yourself. I know why I make the moves I do, so I have to think why the person is not using that logic. Is it because they have different priorities? Are they throwing a dart randomly at a list of names? Do they have personal weaknesses which can be exploited, or show up when something occurs?
So yes, I am constantly thinking and obsessed with what the mafia are thinking. Duh! :laugh4:
He is being obsessive with trying to keep the game at a tie (or close to). So expect him to keep swapping his vote around as we each gain votes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zack
Personally, I want to return to 'khaan, he has his mafia lurker fashion of being active and making inane posts not to attract attention.
He also posted this:
Going after an inactive town, and even put the word "chaos" hidden in his chirping, taunting the town.Quote:
Originally Posted by seireikhaan
Also Pizza delayed the results, then guess who arrives? 'khaan, talking about evil things like blades, then suddenly it is end of night one. Would make sense if Mafia wasn't around to give order and Pizza waited on them, like he did with the voting.
unvote; vote: Seireikhaan
These two points don't mean anything, the chaos thing is a reference to a previous game and Pizza straight-up said he delayed results because of problems on his end. As per his rules post he would rand the mafia kill if they were inactive. Al Sips is the better target for today.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beskar
No. A townie's goal is to find scum. You kept referencing cat this and cat that in ways that do not lead to finding scum. The references you made are frivolous and excessive in an unusual way.
How does this help find scum?Quote:
I would be suspicious of Winston, but I think he wants to be lynched as he wants to exit the game, and he is good enough that any cat would have to get rid of him, or he will cat-them-out.
How does this help find scum?Quote:
Why so? You can be a detective genius at scum tells, and with you playing up, I know you're town. So it makes sense not to lynch you as it would waste our time and allow the cat to eat another. Not going to give that cat an easy time, if they want rid of you, they need to eat you.
How does this help find scum?Quote:
Amusingly accurate. It would have meant one extra shot against Cat and it would have forced the Cat to kill them, rather than hit something more substainal like a roleblocker or doctor.
How does this help find scum?Quote:
Being honest, it is an interesting move, especially since I would have thought you was a contender for today too, so it makes more sense to keep you alive from my perspective.
Also, wasn't a cat that killed you, but a gun from a bird looking creature? Previous Night-kill was from an exploding bird? Only recent cat-like feature was the end of day lynch. I am not sure what the behind the scenes plot is (or if Pizza is just being Pizza and winging it)
Oh look, the only place you actually gave reads. Coincidentally, no mention of cats.Quote:
So, here are my current feels on a "likely scale" based on some logic I am not sharing. (I would come under 'Undecided' with same logic)
Suspected: Sharekhaan, Zack, Al Sipsclar
Undecided: GeneralHanky, Edse
Less Likely: BSmith, atheotes, Winston, Double A, Pelican
My gut is saying 'khaan, I think he is most likely our culprit and would recommend him unless there is a better suggestion.
Vote: Seireikhaan
In fact, I think it's weird you keep saying referencing "the cat" as if we're dealing with a serial killer, when the setup explicitly says this is mafia v. town and the d1 writeup even mentions a "bird mafia". Combined with the cat carrying out a lynch, which makes no sense for the mafia to do, I'm not convinced there even is a cat that's mafia. The nightkill attempts don't say anything about cats; if anything, it seems to imply the "bird mafia" are birds shooting other birds.
Leads me to why I think Takhisis was killed.
DING DING DING! One of the last posts Barto/Takhisis made. And right after his death, enter Beskar -- "oh my, what a strange kill! of course I would never do such a thing! now back to that evil cat again..."Quote:
Originally Posted by El Barto
Funny how Al sips is the only "suspected" person Beskar hasn't tried to push, right? He even deflected questions about him, despite his eagerness to list reasoning for me and khaan. How curious!Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
I didn't realise the random kill on inactive, I would need to refactor that in my calculations as activity was part of the equation in fingering 'khaan, for example. Though, Pizza wouldn't actively say "I am waiting for mafia order" openly, as anyone who is very active like me and you just suddenly gets an all-clear. I will take your word on the game reference.Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
I could live with an Al Sips one, he is on my suspected list, so I have a few things against him. I think Zack might be acting overly brash due to a few votes on him, could be scum panicking, or simply thats him.
unvote; vote: Al Sips
I haven't freaked out over a few votes on me any more than you have.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beskar
I already explained the purpose of the posts. Not my problem if you are unable to comprehend strategy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zack
I already explained why that's BS. You are not trying to solve or get in the mindset of anything, those references I highlighted are throwaway garbage. They're meaningless. It is not finding scum. You are not "thinking like the enemy" with those posts. If you want to think like the enemy, analyze someone's posts and explain how it makes sense from a scum perspective. That finds scum, not making constant remarks on how the cat will kill Winston because he's a good player.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beskar
It has been three hours, I feel that it is pointless responding to you in regards to this game, so I am going to chose not in the game from now on. :bow:
Unvote; Vote: Beskar
Obviously the cat would want to lynch Beskar here. This insight will help us win the game.
And then it is a suitable moment to take a look at who's voting for him. Let me just change my vote first Unvote: Vote: Al Sipsclar for flipping four times between Beskar and Zack.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zack
3 Beskar: Zack, Winston, Al Sipsclar
3 Al Sipsclar: GH, Beskar, edse
1 Zack: Khaan
No Vote: Double A (Forgot to check)
3 No Vote: Double A, Pelican, atheotes
That's it
And me.... but not for long. I'll vote: Al Sips . Beskar v. Zack feels like town v. town to me.
Agreed.Quote:
Originally Posted by BSmith
not to me. I think Zack was a little hot and bothered.
Vote: Zack
Yeah, but hot and bothered is Zack's default mood, especially as town. :laugh4:Quote:
Originally Posted by atheotes
:laugh4: perhapsQuote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
Cannot really expect a reasonable response when logic by him is "Beskar is scum because is he not voting Al Sips", when I am voting Al Sips whilst he isn't. Might as well replace every word with hodor.
This exchange speaks for itself:
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Originally Posted by edseAnd then it is a suitable moment to take a look at who's voting for him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zack
3 Beskar: Zack, Winston, Al Sipsclar
I was clearly being sarcastic.Quote:
Originally Posted by edse
More hot and bothered than Beskar? :crazy: Are you going to vote me for silly reasons like this in every game?Quote:
Originally Posted by atheotes
What the hell are you talking about?Quote:
Originally Posted by Beskar
Get off me, I'm not scum. When I'm scum, I'm like Beskar, "thinking like an enemy".
FoS on those coming out of woodwork to vote me. Also FoS on those not voting me, who obviously know I'm not scum.