Eastern Promise

The second flag is the one i've used and you will see it in the release of super late http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...icons/wave.gif

Nice bro, nice. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...s/bigthumb.gif

Can anyone have a look for any black portraits for any of the african factions? I would be very grateful.

Osprey's (and other) books about the Zulu Wars might be useful to get the McBride look for those portraits.
The ethopians (?) had also a couple of christian saints and those might have been painted (> Benedikt the Black).

Alex

Zulu books:
The Zulus (Elite)
The Anatomy of the Zulu Army: From Shaka to Cetshwayo, 1818-1879 (Greenhill Military Paperbacks)
Zulu War 1879: Twilight of a Warrior Nation (Campaign)
The Zulu War (Men at Arms)

As for the african photographs/pics BKB try this, you might have to shuffle around a little bit but im sure you'll find what you need.

http://www-sul.stanford.edu/depts....torical

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...50&category=95

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws....ory=378

http://www.artdewaal.co.za/works640480/zulu027.htm

http://www.southafrica-travel.net/history/eh_zulu.htm

theres some painitngs there, that maybe you can get something from. Hoe this helps :)

BKB, any news?

It's quite simple. I can't do all this by myself - even I know my limits. You guys have really helped me but I need modding help. It hasn't exactly been forthcoming so if anyone here thinks they can give me a hand, present your credentials (PM me - I'd like to know your modding skills) and I'll see if you are able to help put on this mod.

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Quote[/b] ]It's quite simple. I can't do all this by myself - even I know my limits. You guys have really helped me but I need modding help. It hasn't exactly been forthcoming so if anyone here thinks they can give me a hand, present your credentials (PM me - I'd like to know your modding skills) and I'll see if you are able to help put on this mod.

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It'd be a real shame if this mod never made it out to the public because it looks like one of the more ambitious projects that I've seen. Its nice to see a mod set outside of Europe (granted there's a Middle Earth one). I hope help comes forward.

https://forums.totalwar.org/forum/no...ns/biggrin.gif Hi Blind King, I cant offer much help as I've got other stuff happening,
But I've got knowledge of Photoshop, Irfan and Bifreader. So I could create some new or add to old Bifs for you (new shields if you need them), and/or make some new TGA's. Theres a lot of scripting I've still not tried. But I can edit most everything relating to adding/changing units and most of the startpos files make sence now.
Sorry if I'm to Newb' for this task,
The mod sounds great though.
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p.s shame the Arakans, Khmers, and Burmese are just of the map. perhaps I smell a new project in the brewing. Far Eastern promise Dragon Rising.

https://forums.totalwar.org/forum/no...ns/biggrin.gif I think I read you were after other name suggestions for you mod, Blind King. I've Just thought of one.
Golden Dragon, Roaring Tiger thought it was appropriate. Maybe its not for you though.
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Quote[/b] (The Blind King of Bohemia @ June 09 2004,07:05)]With all the subtle hints going around I felt it was time to spill the beans. Maybe my boss DJ can make this thread a sticky?

I'm pleased to announce my next project, which currently features the working title of 'Eastern Promise'. It centres around a map, devotedly created to resemble the current map. The top left of it is the bottom right corner of the current map, from Hungary to Syria. Yet that's just the tip of the iceberg. It will reach as far across as modern day Turkestan (near Samarkand), down to mid-India (Goa) and then all the way back across to central Africa in Darfur. There will be 4 periods:

Early - set around 1099, the time of the First Crusade.

High - set around 1220, when Genghis Khan and the Mongols enter the equation.

Late - set around 1360, when Timur began his expansion.

Twilight - 1453 to 1568, the time of the rise of the Ottoman Empire.

A massive undertaking as you can see, and one that I'm gonna need some help with I've asked the likes of Cebei for historical info and Turbo for modding experience. However, I feel I'm really gonna need a unit designer. Flip and Duke John spring to mind, but they seem very busy at the minute with their own projects. I think I'll only need about 2 or 3, so we'll have to wait and see. I will now proceed to answer your questions:

So what stage is the mod at?

Well, the map is about 2/3 complete. As is the way when creating a map similar to the original one (ask DJ), it takes an age to complete. I may post work in progress shots if demand is high enough. Apart from that, nothing has been done. As you can see, it's in its very early stages, and that is why I was sceptical about revealing all at such an early stage.

So what positions are available?

Well, I'm not really used to working with others, which is why I want to limit the modding side of things to me, (hopefully) Turbo and if we're lucky, a unit model designer. Historical info wise, I think Cebei can really help me as far as Turkey, Asia Minor et al go, and I have plenty of books about the Mongols and Tartars, but Africa, from Egypt down is the difficult one. Any names, unit info and titles for the likes of Darfur and Ethiopia would be great.

So what will this mod feature?

Well, if everything goes to plan, it should feature:

* A brand new map covering Eastern Europe, Southern Russia, North to Central Africa, the Middle East, Khazar and India.
* 4 periods of play, beginning in 1099 and ending in 1568 (not final)
* The full quota of factions (30) in each period
* New trade goods
* A ton of new units, and hopefully brand new models
* New agents
* New religions, namely Hindu and Christian (can religions be added? I'm sure we could replace Heretic with Hindu and African Christianity could either be Pagan or Catholic if worse comes to worse)
* New Buildings (I'm thinking Hindu religious ones, maybe Elephant keepers and whatnot)
* Historial heroes and maybe Kings
* New names, plus new faction and regional titles
* New portraits (I'm thinking black people, maybe Muslim princesses, and certainly Indian portraits)
* Flip's Elephants (We have permission)

So when can we expect to play it?

Someone's selfish aren't they?? If we say a vague two months then lets look to get a BETA out by then. But I really want it finished by Rome's release

But BKB how could you? You haven't even finished Super Late What about the loyal Super Mod fans? How could you betray us?

Whoa calm down Super Late's on the backburner till I finish the map. A week's devoted attention to it should do the job. I'll then decide whether or not to do a final release with homeland goals and other stuff or press ahead with the new mod. Eastern Promise is on a far bigger scale and I'll need all your support.


So there you have it. Any questions, unit ideas (which I'm always open to), research (including pictures) or discussion can be posted here. Hell, most of you will probably hate the name of the mod - if you don't like it, I'm open to suggestions Now I'm off to finish off the Caspian.
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BKB,

Sounds like an interesting MOD. I am still playing and enjoying the original Super and haven't even played High yet.

Let me know how I can help in the development. I am traveling and don't always have access to the Internet but have a laptop and would be pleased to help in anyway you need.

Your help will be more than welcome mate. I'll get back to you though as i'm knackered(tired) at this moment https://forums.totalwar.org/forum/no...icons/wave.gif

I'd gladly help if possible, but I'm worth nothing as a modder.
Hopefully, someone here will help you to complete this awesome project.

What about the Gerousia team. The unit they made for HTW are all impressive (I think they are better than the original MTW units). If only they could help you.

At the moment i'm putting the project on hold. The super mod is taking alot of time and EP will never be finished by the time Rome comes out. I'm going to keep the map and see the modding possibilities of rome and hopefully eastern promise can happen when i mod the hell out rome, after a few weeks playing of course.

Ack, more time to wait, although a RTW EP mod should be even better when finished.

About your idea of adding provinces depending on the selected era, I think it rocks. It's already quite nice in Super Mod, so it will probably be as good in another mod.

As long as I get to play as the Knights of St. John, I'll be happy to wait. :D Good work BKoB, rest up man, you've been doing incredible work.

Any kind of update on your progress m8?

I think this is on hold until Late comes out in the next few days.

look at it this way bkb can only do so much so dnt be dissapointed if he cant do this mod because his super mod is just as good so stick to that

The more I think about it the better it will be waiting for Rome - the pre-organised alliances before the game begins, and in particular the black portraits for the Numidians.

What about making the 'eastern promise' mod a whole part for a MTW mod ?
Of course, it would depend of the RTW moding possibilities, but I think a mod with both europa and middle-east/asia would really kick *ss (though it would be a huge project, needing maybe a whole team of modders).

as Ive stated for 4 other mods tonight
keep us updated on whats up for this mod it looks sweet

i can't believe i didn't know about this!

what an excellent idea, i hope it doesn't die a death, especially as there is so much commonality with other mods to shorten the development process........?

O/T - i also like the idea of a BKB super-all-in-one mod.

PeegeeTips

Any news on this mod?

I was actually looking at the state of things the other day and it would be a shame if this mod idea died. I wouldn't hold your breath but maybe soon i might try to work on it again ~D

hope u do finish it ur super mods wer excellent

Are you going to finish it on MTW or RTW ?

i hope its on MTW i aint got RTW..............................yet

i hope so.

I was just wondering if BKB was still interested in reviving this mod idea. I would be more than willing to do the lion's share of the researchy for this as my technical skills are lacking,but my research is good enough as I am working on my Master's Degree. (Slowly)