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I tried to smash Thrace before i gave up. its going to be hard so all i can say is good look. Once there Capitals gon (cant remeber what it is but it suplys good trade ) There out of it. Then you will eventually meet the Romans.......................
I won't meet Romans yet. This game is my most interesting to date. I've toggled fog of war and here are my findings. 239 bc
Germania - Own a lot of Europe, A LOT!! Eastern France, Sweden and all of their original land.
Dacia - Their orignal provinces but they owned Bylazora at one point, quite uneventful.
Macedon - DESTROYED
Julii - North Italian Peninsular (the usual) struggling with Patavium (Gaul are hanging on to it).
Brutii - Salona and Appolonia (not much improvement)
Scipii - Caralis, Sicily, Thapsus.
S.P.Q.R - Wandering around outside Rome (don't think they've seen any action yet) probably naval battles though.
Gaul - About to go out. Hanging onto their Spanish province and Patavium.
Britannia - Own all of Britannia and Western France. Never bothered to get Tara though.
Spain - Lost Carthago Nova to Carthage. Still have Asturica, Osca and Scallabis.
Numidia - Nothing. Still have all original provinces, made a few rushes into Carthaginian land to no success (crushing defeats).
Carthage - Held Scipii off for some time now restricted to Lepcis Magna (under siege by scipii), Corduba (sieged by Spain), Palma and Carthago Nova.
Egypt - Knocked out S.E. , Up to Antioch, don't own Seleucia that is Parthian. 2 WONDERS - Lighthouse at Alexandria and Pyramids at Giza.
Parthia - Own Seleucia, lost Sakae to me (Scythia). WONDER - Hanging Garden of Babylon.
Seleucid Empire - DESTROYED
Armenia - No improvement on original provinces.
Pontus - Secured Asia Minor and Tarsus, fending off Egypt. 2 WONDERS - Mausoleum at Halicarnassus and Temple of Artemis at Ephesus.
Greek Cities - They've secured the Aegean Lands and fought off Brutii, coming to their aid ASAP, to keep Brutii away but they won't accept alliance and if they even think about attacking me, I will destroy them. 2 WONDERS - Zeus at Olympia and Colossus of Rhodes.
Thrace - Tylis and Byzantium. Lost Getae to me (Scythia).
Scythia - Own all of the north. Control the Black Sea. No ships are getting through there.
I own Campus Getae, Campus Alanni, Campus Sakae, Campus Scythii, Campus Sarmatae, Vicus Venedae, Themiskyra, Tanais, Chereseneos and Domus Dulcis Domus.
Check your maps, it's a pretty big empire by land but not many provinces.
Who owns Carthage?
Macedon being destroyed seems weird that early on. How much are you making per turn? Your lands are vast but not very rich.
2 out of Alexander's 4 descendants have been wiped out.
Scipii own Carthage but there's a large Carthiginian army who want it back.
Just finished my Seleucid campaign, learning the true value of the Ludus Magna ~D
Over the weekend I almost finished my Greek camapign. Sparta will surrender after 4 turns. I took the first Brutii town (Thermon) and erased a big Brutiia army near Thessa. They have changed their strategy. This army had only 50% infantry (no velatii) and the rest cav and dog. I decreased the number of HA and add more nonragne cav. Craterus, you would have liked this battle!
While the Brutii besiege Thermon my main army is going to Appolonia. They will meet another full Brutii army there. This one has 50% mercs. Looks like they are running out of men ~D . After this I guess Greek is secured and I can look for another target.
I have two full armies in Greek. I could go to Italy or concentrate on the eastern Med. Asia minor, Phoenicia, Egypt? Anyway, I guess I start with Rhodos and Crete. That should give enough money for another army.
I am solving my problem with my far eat counties. Tangis rioted and I attacked it. Erasing the population gave me lots of denarii (10,000) and a peaceful welldeveloped town. I am going to do the same with Sarmatae. Makes money and trains your army. ~:handball:
Craterus,
try to get Corinth as soon as possible. The wonder will help you make the people happy!
Do not ally with Greek. They cannot support you and they are not dangerous - but rich. If you know what I mean ~;)
I know exactly what you mean. The Aegean lands are very rich.
...doesn't seem very rich to me. Or maybe that's because I have to support 6-and-a-half field armies with those settlements.
Ah, just back from a holiday and there's a whole page more of posts. I love this forum, man.
First, to Craterus... That strategy seems workable. Leave Parthia to its devices, after you relieve Tanais/Chersonesos just charge for Thrace and don't stop until you get to Sparta. And... you are aware you don't have to worry about Sweden, right? Just take Denmark and you control Sweden.
Since Craterus has provided us with his situation, I shall do the same...
In my game...
Thrace: Annihilated.
Macedon: Annihilated.
Germania: Annihilated.
Parthia: Lost Sakae, Phraaspa and Arsakia, still has Susa, Palmyra and Dumatha. Are hellbent on recapturing Arsakia, and it's doubtful whether my two units of HA can take on their 4 HA and general and win.
Armenia: Lost Artaxarta, now owning Kotais and Sinope, but not for long. :-)
Greece: Had Sparta, Pergamum and Rhodes one turn ago. Now, has Rhodes.
Dacia: Was slowly being surrounded until they got nervous, upon which they attacked my Thracian holdings only to be bribed away and have two of their towns besieged. Now only have Campus Iazyges still unbesieged/unconquered.
Seleucids: Stuck in their old lands, but have lost Antioch to unrest. Can't hold on much longer, so I shall soon dive in for the kill.
Pontus: Left with Nicomedia and Mazaka. I just surrounded their 20-unit army with my Asia Minor army, so they know what's coming to them. Nicomedia won't survive the next 2 turns. Mazaka will be allowed to remain Pontic a little longer.
Brutia: Controlled their usual provinces until a combined 2-army offensive snatched it from them. They put up a gallant fight, though. Currently has one ill-fated attempt to launch an amphibious landing on Athens with 6 units. Is being trapped with no hope of retreat by the faction heir and will die this turn as soon as I can find 15 minutes of spare time to play out the battle. They now only have their two starter provinces.
Julia: Mediolanum, Patavium, Segesta, Caralia, Arretium, Ariminum. Nice cosy empire, but not for long. Once my Dacian army takes Iuvavum, it's their turn. They lost Corinth to me, too, en route to Sparta.
Scipia: I didn't toggle fog of war, but as I guess they have the usual provinces: Sicily, Africa. I currently have a diplomat at Cyrene en route to see if they have Leptis Magna as well. They will, I foretell, last the longest of the Roman factions. I don't plan to hunt them down.
The Senate: Ah, who'm I kidding. Apart from a 20-stack army and a 20-stack fleet they're not much threat. Well, their fleet is, I'll admit. But it's entirely in the wrong place of the world to stop me crossing to Italia (Between Rhodes and Haliucarnassus, gods know why).
Gaul: They seem to be doing well enough, able to muster 10 units in Alesia and a full-stack down south trying to reconquer Mediolanum. They're next after I take Samarobriva.
Britannia: Unexpanded. Partially because they keep sending big armies without family members or faction heirs that keep getting bribed away by my plenipotentiary ambassador to Britannia stationed at Samarobriva. They also have an annoying habit of stopping just outside the city. They just broke their alliance with Gaul and besieged Alesia for all of one turn before my ambassador to Gaul, stationed at Alesia, bribed them away.
Egypt: Competing with me every turn for 'most advanced faction' status. They hold their usual provinces, and are apparently developing instead of expanding. Only distance and the lack of a navy is stopping me from removing them from advanced-faction competition.
Numidia: Miraculously, still holding on to Siwwa.
Carthage: No idea. Haven't caught sight of them yet.
Spain: No idea either. I have no diplomats stationed there.
Used to make a tidy profit selling map information to all the different factions using my dedicated ambassadors, but no longer: they first started agreeing to giving smaller and smaller amounts for my maps, then they stopped altogether and said they would attack. I just refused downright: Let them attack if they want to. Sigh... my income now is pretty low despite having the Aegean. Only a few thousand denarii a turn. whyyyyyy.....
Oh, good job guys, Scythia has become the longest thread in the RTW Guides forum :-) Keep posting, happy horse-archering!
Just finished my Skythia campaign.
First I've conqured Balkans, then Italy and then I began to unite all barb. factions(also I've conqured Kydonia and Corsica.)under orange flag.
Now I will try either Numidians on VH/VH or Greek cities on VH/M or VH/VH.
Good luck all of you! ~;)
P.S.1.Ave Franconicus what is about exterminations all civ-s.(as you have planned before)?
2. Agreed with Pezhetairoi it is cool to see that this thread became the longest in RTW guides! :charge: :charge: :charge: :charge: :charge: :charge: :charge: :charge: :charge: :charge: :charge: :charge: :charge: :charge:
3.Cool to see that some more people have started Skythia campaign since my last post. ~:cool:
4.And GOOD luck for you again! ~;)
Ave IliaDN,
congratulation to your victory. ~:cool:
And thank you for reminding me of my duty. I exterminated Tylis, Byzantium, Thessalonica, Bylazora and Larissa. However I only enslaved Athens and Corinth. I needed them to get money and new troops. You get weak in these southern countries. But I exterminated Thermon as well as Tangis and Campus Sarmatae. Those towns were just too big. I also produced peasants in the east and made them move to my new towns to make them more Scythian.
Right now I wonder were to turn. Brutii really bore me. There are many battles and they are all the same. I have a centre of some archers and axemen or phalanx, I have two or three HA on each side as well as 2-3 close combat cav (CCC). In my centre I also have one cav and one HA.
Battle is always the same. My CCC turn around the enemies flanks and whipe out their cav. In the meanwhile my archers erode their infantry. Then my CCC attack from the rear. That's it.
Maybe I go to Phoenicia and Egypt to have some change!
Good luck for your new campaign. Please start with the Numidians. I'd like to join your Greek camapign but I am still busy here. ~:confused:
Ave Franconicus I've started Numidian campaign on VH/VH just because it seemed more difficult to me(I read your post later you and I think that I'll play Greek Cities after having some fun with Numidian campaign)
As for your complain about battles I can recommend you to use some onagers(about 5 units) axemen and chosen archers some heavy non-missile cav and dogs.This will change tactics a lot! For example it is cool to watch your onagers shooting at enemy's army with flaming ammunition( when you have lot's of onagers) enemy will take serious casualities.And when enemy come closer archers begin shooting too(first with normal and then with flaming ammunition)then your enemy runs and chase them with axeman,cav and dogs(if they approuch too close they would be "shaken" already and can be easily driven away by axeman or even archers some cav and dogs will be good too).
So anyway I recommend you to try this tactics.
Thanks, I hadn't really thought about that tactic. Especially not so much art. Thanks.
Still struggling through my campaign with only 2 hours or less per day to play it. Resistance is solidifying in the factions I'm beating up, so things are about to get hot :-) Last turn I attacked and defeated 2 full-stacks, one Pontic and one Armenian, but was unable to do more than score an incomplete victory (i.e. they still had a quarter or more left). I only used onagers in field battles one, in the battle with the Greek grand army, but it didn't look very impressive to me despite fielding two units and concentrating them on one hoplite unit. Maybe it was armoured hoplites.
Now I have a strategic dilemma--should I strike Samarobriva or Alesia? I currently only have one army on the western front and it will be at least another 6-7 turns before I get a second army there, so which should I hit? If it helps, Samarobriva hasn't yet gotten a port.
I'm on the brink of counterattacking Parthia (and this time I'll finish the job) while at the same time pincering the Seleucids from both east and west. It's really quite gratifying to destroy hordes of EI, but I've learnt one thing: They can do -some- damage.
Anyone have this problem when you set five units of shock cavalry to charge a unit, and only two arrive, while the other three spin off on tangents to pursue other targets? Is that just the impetuous/undisciplined/untrained thing?
Everyone! Play Spain next so I have people to talk to on the Spain thread when I get there! ^_^ But only after I try Egypt. :-)
Craterus, how's your campaign going? Pontus is as good as gone, Armenia still has one full-stack left but it's trapped in Sinope, either Britannia/Gaul is going to be attacked, and Dacia is annihilated. The Julii have been so weakened that probably their total armies added together will just equal one full stack.
Franconicus, end it! Just hunt down the Romans and exterminate them so you don't ever have to fight another of those monotonous battles! I know what you mean, I'm getting sick of fighting Romans, except in sieges. They seem marginally more entertaining there.
Check out the Mead Hall! My epic has begun! My thread is 'Driven by Vengeance: A Scythian Campaign Epic'
Ave IliaDN,Quote:
Originally Posted by IliaDN
thanks for your advice. I tried with one onager and three bowmen. Yes, it looks great and it may look even better if you have more onagers. But still it is the same strategy: soften the enemy with arrows and balls and catch him with your CCC from behind.
What I want now is some real fight, where you see the white in the eye of theenemy and penetrate steel in his flesh. :duel: That is why I am going to play Greek cities next. I suppose they do not have much cav and I will have to find s.th. else. So see you in Greece ~:cool:
Ave pezhetairoi,Quote:
Originally Posted by pezhetairoi
take Alesia! From my Germanian campaign I know that this is the key to Gaul.
You seem to fight a multi front war. Is this good?
Thanks for the advice. But I just cannot wait to attack Egypt! This is more historically for Scythia.
Ave, Franconicus how long it will take you to clear the map of remaining scum and to build your barb. empire?
I have abondon numidians and started spanish campaign - they are cool! :balloon2: But I want to play for greeks anyway!
Well, IliaDN,
that is a very good question. Here is the plan:
1. I have to wait two turns until I get Sparta. Then Í have another full army released. Meanwhile I attack Appolonia. I have to erase three Brutii armies there. I also have to watch the Parthians, they have a full army hanging round my Eastern frontier.
2. I take Rhodos and Crete :duel:
3. I invade Egypt and Phoenicia. :charge:
4. I attack Italy. My plan is to do some landings from the sea. Like vikings, land, burn, disappear. I do not want to build a barb emp, I just want to destroy! ~:cool:
5. Finally I take Carthage and maybe Asia Minor. Then all traces of civilisations should be wiped out. ~D
P.S.: I have one hour per day. So, it will take a while ~:confused:
Guess I will have time to finish my spanish campaign.
I revived this thread when I joined. When I posted my status, everyone started ~D
Welldone, Ziaelas! ~;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Ziaelas
What is your story and your status now?
Just wondered what faction Pezhetaroi wanted to play after Skythia?
Just because I wanted more people posted in Greek Cities topic(when time comes). ~D
I can talk with you on Spain thread, littlegannon and I have a Spain campaign going, but I don't think we will ever get around to visit, I rarely see him anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by pezhetairoi
I don't play RTW much per day, more just 8 hours on Saturday and a few on Sunday, I hope to play tonight but I don't think the computer is free.
Hey Ilia... I don't mind scrapping plans for Spain to join you for Greece first :-) But like Franc, I don't get much time to work on RTW, so you take your time and finish Spain first while I finish Scythia. I have three armies making their slow way south by three different routes to take down Egypt. :-P
Franc, let's play Greece after this! ^_^ Then we can join IliaDN. Interesting name, too...
Craterus, sad to hear your Spain campaign's stalled... I guess you'll be moving on to some other solo cavalry campaign soon?
So I guess there will be a pleasnt company waiting me in greece! ~;)
you bet! :)
No!!
Why does everebody leave this thread when I haven`t even started my scythian campaign yet?
I think I`ll start it today, looking forward to the nobles, and the barbarian onagers! ~D
I have modded the game a bit, in an attempt to make TSE a superpower that can challenge me once I`ve finished Armenia and Parthia.
Don't worry thre are lot's of people having this campaign now.
I'll join you guys in Greece. When I finish Scythia, if you don't mind waiting for me. I'll try and play some tonight, I'll play loads tomorrow night and hopefully all Saturday and Sunday.
Haha, Craterus, take your time, I've only yet conquered half the world (so no worries Viking, there'll be people to keep you company! ^_^), Ilia is in the middle of his Spanish campaign, and Franc is also somewhere still in the Scythian campaign... don't play too fast, else you'll beat us all there and be very very alone for weeks on end :-)
Boo, those of you waiting for the second instalment of my epic, it's out :-) Includes my conceptualisation of my Scythian starter units. Hope the description does them justice.
Ave brothers in arms,
looks like we will have lots of fun in Greek ~:cool:
Finally Sparta gave up. The Greece send an army with two units to help them and the two famaly members without any troops to reconquer. The famaily members did not like each others so they fought and dies alone.
I still struggle with these Brutii bastards. Round Appolonia they gathered 8 armies (small and big ones) and had at least 4 family members. I sent my 1. army coming from Thessa. This was lead by a minor FM. It had a lot of infantry (4 archers, one axe and 1.5 phalanx, 1 onager) and only 4 HA. Rest was CCC (close combat cav.) My 2. army came from Thermon and was only half full.
First round:
1. Army: They pushed through and besieged Appolonia. Appolonia is held by a full army with lots of mercs. The Brutii forces are devided now.
2. Army: Meets one full and two half full Brutii armies. Go into defensive position y building a fortress.
Second round:
1. Army: Is attacked by a small (2 units) army in the rear. Appolonia garrison does not attack. Enemy is erased without losses.
2. Army: Besieged; waiting for reenforcements
3. Army: Holds Sparta now and gets filled again.
Third round:
1. Army: Another attack, this time 1,800 Brutii led by their king. They have much more cav than I have. I have my inf. on a hill and my cav on both flanks. Cav fights on both sides. On the left flank the Brutti beat my barb cav. On the right I kill one equite unit. The other one breaks through and chases my HA. I have to follow and loose 0.5 HA and time. My right wing cav attacks their back and kills another equites and the gernreal but then it is wiped out. Meanswhile the hasatii and principes and glatiators reaches my infantry. I have heavy losses. My archers have to fight these damned dogs. Constant fire of Cretian archers. Situation is very critical. My general himself saves the day. He attacks from the right side and rides right through the whole front line. Enemy routes. I won but I have only 500 men left.
Right after that the garrison sallies. Due to the bad condition of my army I withdraw. However - in the wrong direction, south. I find myself attacked by three Brutii armies and this time they come simulataneously. Lots of cav. Three family members. I fight hard and kill 800 including theit heir and another FM. But my army is killed amlost completely. My FM escapes but all men of his guad die.
2. Get reenforcements and march north.
3. Army: Still gets filled and fights some Greek suicide attacks.
After the desaster of my 1. army I form a new one under the command of my leader. I attack again from both sides and my 3. army comes too. This is not the blitz kind of war I planned; this is more a Verdun kind ~:eek:
In the meantime I killed the pop in Chersanesos and sent my heir with a small army to conquer Rhodos. So do not hurry, friends, it will take a will for me to end civilisation.
pezhetairoi,Quote:
Originally Posted by pezhetairoi
which ways do they go. Is this a naval operation? What is your experience with Egyptian troops?
That`s good to hear!Quote:
Originally Posted by pezhetairoi
My scythian campaign started out as a nightmare: the 3. turn a big rebel army pop-ups from nowhere and occupies Campus Sarmatae.
I have conquered Chersonesos, but yet I have more than enough with defending my cities from parthians, armenians, dacians and thracians.
My next move is to retake Campus Sarmatae! :charge:
Do not do it! Pack your things and go South! ~;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Viking
Ave, Franconicus. I completed this campaign a while ago, thankfully Ara The Mighty, my faction leader and 10 star commander survived to see his dream fulfilled, before dying at age 64. ¬¬ All of Europe is mine, all that is left to fall is Africa, and parts of Asia.
Ok, help!! :help:
I have a full German stack on my doorstep at Vicus Venedae, my small army up there is completely outnumbered, I tried taking them on while I still could but I had no chance and withdrew from the battle. What shall I do, I can't send up reinforcements because I'm busy finishing Thrace off. I can try and ambush them, which is what I'm trying to do but I just don't have the man-power to take them on. :help:
I`ll not take Sarmatae yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Franconicus
But I want revenge!!!! :charge:
Also I`m afraid that Germania takes Sarmatae first.
@Craterus, you`ll better try to exploit the dumbness of the AI, or just take back the settlement later.(sorry, no good advice! :embarassed: )
Craterus,Quote:
Originally Posted by Craterus
if you have more combat cav and some HA you can fight them anyway. As a cav commander I guess you know what to do!
if not, make trade this town for an alliance. It is not worth to find for it!
PS: Almost 200 posts now for Scythia. I think in whole history they were never more known that now! ~:cheers:
Beat em if you can. Otherwise, retreat. It's not worth fighting over.
Did you say you had a unit of 2 gold chevron HHM? That could destroy all the enemy cav. Then your HAs can play havoc with their infantry.
The gold-chevron HHM's have only 19 in the unit.
I have 2 horse-archers unit, 1 axemen unit, 2 generals units and the tiny HHM unit.
They have axemen, screeching women, warband, and a faction heir.
It will need some great commanding to beat them. If I try to beat them, and lose, then the Germans will keep on coming. If I retreat, what do I do?
I've never encountered screeching women (I use RTR, and always have),so I can't give advice there.Quote:
The gold-chevron HHM's have only 19 in the unit.
I have 2 horse-archers unit, 1 axemen unit, 2 generals units and the tiny HHM unit.
They have axemen, screeching women, warband, and a faction heir.
It will need some great commanding to beat them. If I try to beat them, and lose, then the Germans will keep on coming. If I retreat, what do I do?
I'm on my first campaign, I'm using Sarmathia, which is Scythia in vanilla. I've found that versus infantry, I can only lose if I run out of arrows. If you can rout a bunch of those axemen (they should drop like flies with your HAs) you might be able to rout the entire army, earning a major victory. If you feel unable to do this, retreat, definately. Come back with a crap load of reinforcements, and destroy them. If you can, try to gain some profit for the region by using a diplomat to sell it to another nation.
During the battle, try to get HAs behind the warbands. Distract them with one HA in the front, and get another behind. It's hard to kill warbands with arrows from the front, and wasteful of arrows.
The hardest problem you can face is if the Germanics use cavalry for Generals. Do they? (Haven't fought them yet).
In my VH-VH campaign, I've taken all of Greece. Greek Cities are destroyed, Macedon is destroyed, Thrace is destroyed, Dacia is almost gone (two regions left), I've got a huge army in the east, destroying the rebels. I have 54 provinces. Parthia is almost gone, with three regions left (Seleucids destroyed them). The Seleucid Empire, who I have allied with, are reaming the Ptolemaic Empire, though I helped by taking the island regions that the Ptolemaics owned. I'm currently attacking Parthia, Pontus, Dacia and Brittania (I sent a diplomat all the way through the seas, and past Iberia to get there, just for fun. It's surprisingly hard, though I've bribed two family members. Most Brittanic armies are unwilling to accept money).
I stopped attacking the Ptolemaics, the Seleucids are doing fine, and I'm concentrating on the east, above the Seleucids. I'm guarding against the Romans, who are trying to exapnd into my territory, but aren't openly hostile yet. An Armenian diplomat is up in Brittania, trying to take the one colony I hold (tentatively) there, for some reason.
Is very strange. You take Greek and Macedon yet Roman do not attack. I have completed many times Scythian campaign and Romans can not resist attack once you take Greek lands. They will come.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tigranes
They're on the way. But I'm not worried. I bribed the first two armies they sent (full stacks), because I had no armies in that area. I've relocated some NHAs to the region, and thus, I am protected. Not sure though, I've never faced the Romans yet.
I've got plenty of money. I get some 15000-20000 denarii every turn, now that I took Greece. I'm very happy, after the original horribly crap economy.
I think I've reached the turning point. The struggle is basically over, and it's all downhill for the other nations now. Meh. I think I'll play the Britons next, or the Macedonians.
I reach that point fairly quickly in all my games.
As for Craterus, you don't have to attack them. Just put the army in their path. They would attack it.
You can kill the faction heir with what you have.
The rest is all infantry. Run the HAs around till they run out of arrows. Then just run out the time with your cav dancing around their infantry.
You don't have to kill em all in 1 battle.
Even if you lose, it's no big deal. The towns in that direction are useless. If the Germans really want it, let em have it. I'd actually like to preserve that unit of HHMs more. Retraining it will be nice.
I need to attack them, put them on the defensive, if they come at me, there's nothing I can do. I just hope the ambush works...
Okay, lots of replies, far too many to quote... firstly, Egypt. I haven't had any experiences with the Egyptian troops yet, I am not touching them until I mop up Seleucids and Asia Minor. I have three armies. One is at Halicarnassus, bound for Rhodes and Kydonia. After which it will cross the Med and strike Alexandria. Meanwhile the second army will take Hatra and move south past Antioch (which has 20 units in it as garrison) and hit Damascus instead, and I hope I can draw out part of Antioch's garrison where I can destroy it. A third army is currently in deep Parthia, but once it takes Seleucia I shall send it across the desert to take Palmyra and then Bostra. They will be struck north, south and middle, so they will be unable to respond very well. In the event the Damascus prong is delayed the Alexandria army will land in Numidian territory and wait. There will be a first wave of two prongs, then a third coming out of the deep desert.
And now... yesterday was grand battle day... I fought five full stacks in three hours of playing. Julii, Scipii, Gaulish, Greek, Brutii, Armenian, Pontic... you name it, I fought it. Quite a stressful day yesterday was.
Craterus: you must be playing on vh for strategic... how the #*^!#$& did the Germanians send a full stack at you so fast? Let them take Venedae. Get a diplomat nearby... I notice barbarian armies have a nasty habit of taking settlements, then leaving their factioner in the city while they send out another force under a captain upon which you can bribe them. Meanwhile, head west and take their ancestral lands. Venedae is wOrthless anyhow.
Screeching Women? they are pathetic. Just delete them. Their morale bonus doesn't help much if you aren't going to hang around and let them take effect. Just take the back door and strike them, and they scatter. Instantly.
My Greek campaign is done. I attacked the Brutii with three armies. One army came from Thermon and marched all the way to Salona.. It attacked three Brutii armies on the way. The other two cleared the area from remaining Romans and attacked Appolonia. I took both towns and killed some Brutii FMs. Of course I killed everyone I met inside.
Brutii still control the sea between Italy and Dalmatia. From time to time they land small troops. They disappear as soon as I attack.
In the meanwhile I landed on Rhodos. I was attacked by a Greece FM with some hoplites. I had three onagers and 3 archers and a slaughtered them before they could reach my line. Then I attacked the town and took it. Greece cities are now gone! I also landed near Kydonia and took it. They had some nice units, but are so incredible underdeveloped that they did not have a single building. So I spared them.
Having these two islands and the wonder of Rhodos really boost my cash flow. In fact I have more money I need right now. I will need the money when I attack Egypt.
Meanwhile I landed an army in Italy. I attacked and took Croton. Killed the first Triatrii unit here. (Onagers do damage to them!) I erased population and received 12,000 D for that. Unfortunately I have to wait for my fleet to withdraw again. In the meantime I laid siege on Tarentum. A Scipii army is coming but I do not really want to fight them now. My next target would be Messana or Syracuse.
I was taken by surprise by the Julii. They bribed Campus Sarmatae. No idea what they want there. A spy is on his way.
A fleet started to Egypt. It has 2 FM, 4 onagers as well as some other troops and a diplomat and a spy. My plan is to land near Alexandria, buy so many mercs that I have two armies, block the bridges over the Nile and attack Memphis. Make it my base camp, make a trip to Graceland, take Alexandria, destroy Thebes and march to Jerusalem. Then Egypt should be broken.
Thracia is dead, Greek Cities are dead, Macedonia has only Segestica left (that is right where I want them to be); Brutii have only Tarentum. The Gauls are gone too.
Germania is a very reliable friend of mine. Dacia does not dare to do anything against me because they fear Germania. Furthermore Germania is at war with the Romans and keep them busy at their northern frontier.
...Greek campaign? I thought we were going to play it together with Craterus and IliaDN... >.
Do not worry. I mean my campaign against Greek. This one is finished, now. So you can call me Greecicus, I guess. ~:)
Wow, Franconicus, your campaign game is completely different from mine! :dizzy2:
I`ve finished of Dacia and Thrace and got Armenia as my protectorate.
Parthia is somehow paralysed, they don`t attack me anymore.
Germania is my worst enemy, and the greek cities are about to crush Macedon, posing me a real challenge in not too long.
But then you`re a little longer out in your campaign than me.. ~;)
Ave Viking,
that is why RTW is so great, you can try so many different strategies.
I always try to go south to the Mediteranian. Otherwise I am broke all the time. And I like it hot ~:cool:
My opinion is that fighting Dacia, Germania and Parthia does not pay. They are as poor as you are.
Well, I suppose I've lingered on this thread too long. You obviously don't need my advice...... *Runs off sobbing*
I agree with the Mediteranian bit, but I like to roleplay my games, it can give me more fun. I get a faction leader, examine the traits, and decide what he might do. It's pretty fun, at times, especially since the odds of winning are higher if you don't have the perfect plan, and only do what the leader "wants" to do.Quote:
Ave Viking,
that is why RTW is so great, you can try so many different strategies.
I always try to go south to the Mediteranian. Otherwise I am broke all the time. And I like it hot
My opinion is that fighting Dacia, Germania and Parthia does not pay. They are as poor as you are.
In my current campaign, Dacia has one region left, which will fall within three turns. After that, the army, lead by Madyes the Conquerer (I pulled him out of some town in the east. A rebel town, I conquered, and trained some peasants. Captain Madyes was ejected from the town, along with two other peasant armies. They went back at the town, three peasants against five, and surprisingly, they won. I adopted Madyes then, and sent him west, to assist against the Macedonians. He's been with me through my campaign against the Macedonians, The Greeks, and the Dacians. Next, the Romans. :bow: ), will pull south and defend against the two stack of Romans on the way already (diplomat saw them). I'm out of money for bribing, the Carthaginians have blocked all my ports, and I have no ships. Egypt is still being swallowed by the S.E. In Pontus' territory, I wage a continual, slow war against Pontus, with but a half-stack. Pontus keeps putlling scythed and missile chariots out of his ass, and HAs aren't good against chariots. We've taken two of Pontus' cities, but the situation is grim for them, as all of my possible reinforcements are in the half-stack, and they are besieged. Hope lies on the horizen, however. I have trained six cataphracts, and six NHAs in the north, and they are on their way, by boat (the large sea in the middle of Eurasia, that is not connected to the ocean) to Armenia, my allies, where they will collect mercenaries along the way to smash Pontus from the behind.
In the far east, Partatua, the King, wages a war against the remaining rebels, and their elephants. Three rebel strongholds remain.
In Britain, I have captured three cities, and two remain in British control. Hibernia is mine.
Themiskyra is mine, after a relatively easy battle (they weren't scythed chariots).
Germania collects on the border, and I worry. My nation may have stretched too far, too fast, as I lack the resources or manpower to defend all sides. S.E. has cancelled their alliance, and may soon attack. Parthia continually attacks one city and then retreats. Parthia will be gone soon, surrounded by Armenia and the S.E.
My game is going way slower, it seems. Well I don't have as much time to play as you people, sigh... In my game I'm clear all the way into Gaul, where Alesia and Lugdunum make a huge bulge, in France, and Samarobriva and Massilia are about to fall. The British have been badly weakened after I bribed so many of their armies away from them, while I have in Massilia trapped their largest army, which I will kill if they sally. The next turn will be quite a cool one, because I will break the Julii's, Brutii's, Greeks', Seleucids', Gauls' and Pontus' final great armies at one blow. In that same blow, too, Segesta, Tarentum, Massilia, Samarobriva, Ancyra, Mazaka, Seleucia and Rhodes will fall to me. I don't believe I've had such a busy turn before. Egypt... I'm thinking of modding the Tuthmosis troops to lower their armour. Especially the desert axemen and the chariots :-P I have no mood to go against people with iron skin. If they meant for them to have lots of armour, they should have given them armour.
Just a remark:
I have a constant stream of peasants from my Scythian homeland to my new Greek production facilities. This reduces the problems of unhappiness in the east and makes my new towns more Scythian. It gives me the options to produce more troops in the south.
I promise the peasants that they get the change to be trained as noble archers or lancers and they are happy with that. I do not tell them that they are the replacement for the desastreous losses I had in former battles.
Until now about 2,000 peasants were relocated and trained. :duel:
One question: ~:confused:
I hear everybody telling that he bribed armies. :furious3:
I never do it. In the beginning I do not have enough money, in the midgame I do not need it.
From a ethnic point of view: Is it right for a Scythian noble man to give the enemies gold when he can get the same with giving them steel?
The whole iron skin thing - British/Gallic Swordsmen (NOT Chosen Swordsmen) have an armour bonus and they wear no armour. It's really annoying about how everyone moans about Desert Axemen.Quote:
Originally Posted by pezhetairoi
right, the swordsmen are going down too. XD
I've finally lost patience. I don't have the time to conquer the world with Scythia, I'llk just get my 50 provinces, Rome, and run off to Greece. At the rate I'm going I don't know how long it's going to take me to destroy the rest of them factions. Franconicus, IliaDN, ready for Greece yet?
Just write when you rea ready!
P.S. Francononicus, for me the main point in bribing is that I really don't have enough patience to kill all those rebels or just normal enemy armies by myself(in auto-combat I take too many casualities on VH/VH).
~:eek: Wow! You really had a plan about conquering all the world with Scythia?!!Quote:
Originally Posted by pezhetairoi
Man, your morale is soo much better than mine! :dizzy2:
Have to admit that I only have completed one campaign... :bow:
Anyway, perhaps Scythia will be my second?
I`m doing some quick progress and hope to invade Italy via Venetia; allready have Pannonia. :charge:
One thing about conquring oicumena - examine Armenia thread.
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Originally Posted by Viking
I had a grand plan to conquer Egypt with 3 armies attacking from 3 different directions, it's a grand plan, but it would have required at least another 10 turns. Oh well. Scrap Egypt. Believe it or not Egypt is the only faction I have not yet faced in open battle.
Franconicus, IliaDN, Craterus! Go play Greeks! I've just started Turn 1. Switching to the Greek thread from now on. This is Pezhetairoi, signing out from Scythia.
Damn it! I might just quit my Scythian campaign, I've lost interest. Although cav is my expertise (sp??), I just came out of an Egyptian campaign where I always used chariot archers, for every battle. 2 straight campaigns of mounted missiles, how boring. I'm going to go start Parthia. JOKE!
To Greece!!!! I'm a crap phalanx commander, but I'll have to learn at some point.
Hm.
pezhetairoi is gone, Craterus is gone and IliaDN is gone at any moment.
I guess I have to look for new recruits to this thread ~:handball:
But hey, those HAs are handy! It will take a time before I can unlearn my scythian tactics and standards.
It'll take me a while to tune out of HA mode. It'll take time to learn hoplite mode and even longer to tune in to it.
It's quite a jarring difference, I'm learning now. From an all-cavalry army to an army where I only have ONE cavalry unit, oh maaaan I'm starting to miss Scythia already XD But nope, my passion always lay in compact ranks of men marching forward with long pointy sticks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Viking
I'm still here, in case anyone needs strategies ;-) But now Ilia, Franc and Craterus are going to help me make the Greek thread a thread to rival this one in length! ^_^ Craterus, good luck learning hoplite tactics! And, well, the only thing I think you should know is that when fighting with your starter armies, form them deep. There's the risk of being outflanked, but given the AI's general stupidity it's the only way your Militia hoplites are going to be able to counter the enemy general's frontal charges.
hi
The Germans kept attacking me like crazy and I can't hold them off much longer!
Help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The same happened to me. What province is it that they want? If it isn't one of your main ones, I'd advise ditching it and retreating to regroup.Quote:
Originally Posted by crazybastard
P.S. Welcome to the org ~:wave: :balloon: :balloon3: :balloon2:
HA are really difficult to control for some reason. Sure, they make good raining-arrows-down-and-beat-the-living-sh*t-out-of-the-enemy troops, but once they are being chase around by enemy cavalry, they just lose it.
Some pointerson as how this happens!?
Just try to control HA yourself!
Turn skirmish mode OFF if you want to control where they are going.
Yeah, I get annoyed with horse archers because if they are being charged, sometimes they don't even bother to run away and they charge back.
I purposely overwrited my Scythian game with my Macedon game.
See my later post.
I just overwrote my Seleucid game with my Scythian. :embarassed:Quote:
Originally Posted by Craterus
Dammit! I was so close to victory, only needed a rest..
So when I now quit my scythian campaign game, I`ll make sure I have a backup.
This happens to everybody, CA should have done something with it!
I think they relied on people not to do such stupid things although I'm sure everyone has accidentally overwritten a game.
Well, to be honest, I haven't. I purposely overwrote my Scythian game because I prefer to only have one campaign going on at a time.
I have a habit of saving my games in multiple numbered files (for example: Seleucids001, Seleucids002, Seleucids003 and so on) so that if I accidentally overwrite a file, it'll probably only set me back a few turns.
I have folders in My Documents titled 'Julii', 'Brutii', Scythia', etc. These are the old campaign saves I've played. The gamesave folder only contains saves of the current campaign I'm playing, and I save at the end of every turn, so I have Turns 1 to 60+ in unbroken order. Added to the fact that I keep my actions recorded in my notebook, even if I'm set back a turn or so it won't be any loss at all :-D I can recreate the game just as it is.
wow, pez is really hardcore.
I just save the games with a suffix for faction and then year number. For example, Jul269 would be Julii in 269 BC. I add an 'a' to indicate winter.
Anyhow, for Scythia, always micro a few units of noble cavalry or HHMs around and actively intercept the enemy cav before they even come close to hitting your HAs.
I typically let the HAs stay on skirmish and make my melee cav actively hunt the enemy melee cav with the first opening I can get
...y'know I jus realised, I've never built a unit of HHM in my Scythian campaign, nor have I ever seen the option for Scythian noblewomen? ...wow.