Casse campaign, 182 B.C.
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Casse campaign, 182 B.C.
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Go Eperios, way to take Rome.
That's not Rome, it's the city just to the North. I sacked Rome myself a while ago, along with the cities on the way. I gave them that city and they've built quite an Italian peninsula presence. They've funelled in a lot of troops to the east coast and in from the North.
Hmm, I have been following this thread and I am a little concerned about the faction expansion in Rome. It seems that there are very few times where Rome expands the way it did in history. It seems they even have a hard time kicking Epieros off the heel. I wonder what causes this and if there is a way to fix it. Or, perhaps it is good as is because Rome is already one of the easier factions.
Well as far as my campaign is concerned, their weak state is wholly my "fault". They were expanding quite nicely... a bit too much. They had all of Italy and a lot more land to the north, east and west. When they attacked me though, all that changed. I split up Italy by re-introducing Epirus and they did the rest. I also took their northern and western holdings in Gaul.
Yep... they were doing quite well before all this.
In my Mak campain rome hadn't tried to attack epeiros for years - when epeirotes had only Taras (guess why :)) then epeirotes captured rhegion and got Syracusai (rebelion?) rome attacked about 20 years from the gamestart. During that 20 years they had theire main army sitting on epeirotes border - so no other expanding.Quote:
Originally Posted by jebes
Mostly, It seems odd when comparing the historical vs EB expansion of Rome to the Historical vs EB expansion of Karthadast and Ptolemaioi. I like the fact that every EB game is different. I am not complaining about that at all. What I don't think is portrayed very well is the momentum of each faction coming into 272 BC. I think EB does a good job of getting a snap shot of 272, but it is impossible to show motion in a snapshot. All the nations at this time were in motion and have to make a completely new path each time, instead of continuing what they were doing in 273.
Anyway, I won't care if nobody else does, but it does seem a little odd.
I for one will not complain on Rome expansion.
Playing as Gatai i had my as* kicked big time by Romans.
They declared war on me about 245-240 BC.
By 220BC i was seeking refuge in Halikarnassos and Sidone (? city north of Halikarnassos) after loosing all my homeland territories.
My kingdom was thorn apart by Romans and Pontos.
But true cause of my demise where Romans, Pontos was just a helper.
By 220BC Rome was greatest power in known world.
that's true, but historically the romans never expanded into the upper balkans, eventually they did get dacia i suppose but that was very difficult and occured only after they ruled the majority of the mediteranean coastline. I think that the overwhelming power of messana and syracuse plays into this, as it keeps carthage and rome from ever coming into contact with each other. The romans can expand well, i've seen them explode in north-westward expansion, i'd just like to see that redirected in a more historical direction. Then again, i'm sure that the EB members will get to that so there is no reason for me to nag.Quote:
Originally Posted by LorDBulA
by the way, isn't it fun to lose campaigns? I always thought RTW would be fun to lose in, making last stands and all, maybe even rebuilding an empire from scratch more than once per campaign. Long wars in EB are the best.
Yea it would be good to direct Romans to conquere Sycily first. But i dont think there is a way to do it.
Yea it was my best game ever. I think i never had so much fun playing computer game.Quote:
by the way, isn't it fun to lose campaigns?
But practically i wasnt defeated. When i knew i cant win i send 3 generals to Asia minor. One manage to get there and with mercenaries help he proclaimed himself tyrant of Halicarnassos. Then i captured Sidone. So when i lost my dacian holdings few years later (with all others faction members) i still had 2 cities in Asia Minor.
Those greek cities where very wealthy. I was making a bit more then half of what i used to in my best times. The future was full of danger but also full of opportunities. If i didnt encounter possibly fatal CTD and didnt have to move to other mod testings i still might pull it off.
Well, in my current campaign as the Aedui VH/M reccomended settings, I've finally managed to unite all of ancient Gaul and have two experienced and well armed full stack armies, I am in alliance with Carthage, both of us are on Rome's borders which are largely contained to the Italian peninsular, and I'm about to move in.
I can say, its really satisfying to take a nation suffering in decline and in the middle of a civil war, on the brink of collapse, and turn it into a major super power.
I love you EB! :2thumbsup:
After kicking out the Epirotes from W.Greece/ Balkans my spies returned some 10 years to Italy and to my amusement they had not only survived but taken the whole island of Scicily, S.Italy and was hammering the gates of Rome itself. I do love this game!
I have no pics, but in my last two campaigns (one araound 150 bc, one 200 bc) pontos is doing extremely well.
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Here's mine, I'm playing as the Aedui and it is 246bc, I conquered Rome a few years ago and have finally managed to more or less pacify *read largely annhialate* the population on the Italian peninsular, and I'm about to move on Iberia...this campaign has been SO much fun!
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this is my kh campaign in 225 bc, i had an awful lot of hard fighting since my last post. Epirus was far too strong and i've let them live for too long. now they come at me with full stacks of their strongest phalanxes but luckily i've managed to nearly drive them out of greece. Meanwhile, Makedonia exists only because i have given them provinces in order to serve as buffer zones in the hope that they might aid me against pontos and the seleukids. Unfortunately, both of their armies in anatolia were destroyed retaking mytilene from a rebellion. Pahlava is no longer allied with the seleukids, and is at war with armenia and baktria. Seleukid provinces between the persian gulf and hyrcanian sea have been rebelling lately as well, leaving the east to fend for itself. Sweboz and getai are competing for control of the baltic and upper balkans, and although there had been bloodshed, now they only compete to take rebelling border territories. Meanwhile the gauls aren't doing anything at all and the Casse are working their way into the mainland. The ptolemies made a comeback and are now invading Syria, while the Seleukids are pretty much on the retreat. As for the Epirus, Carthage, and the Romani it seems pretty much over expansion wise. The Sicilian Rebels are just too powerful, same with the getai, sweboz, and I know i wont let epirus take ground from me, so unless epirus decides to blitz the Romani, or vice-versa, i think it's over for them. Sicily is just too powerful. Pontos is doing well, i want to invade and take sinope back but they've got three stacks in byzantion. Maybe i could put ships in between europe and asia to block them, but that would be a bit of an exploit. If I could just take the rest of epirus, i'd be able to bring both of my armies to invade asia. I think i'm just about done, though, with the new patch coming out and i'm too lazy now to fight large battles personally. Either way, it's a very fun campaign.
I've enjoyed those posts mattholomew! The patched OB is going to still be awfully difficult, it's sure not easier than the unpatched OB. It's definitely even more realistic, but it's got plenty of other nice touches to make it more fun and interesting too.
My goodness. Will there hopefully be less rebels spawning all the time, unnecessarily? I'd welcome difficulty in other forms, but if more rebels are one of them... that's not cool. Otherwise, I canNOT wait for this patch.
To keep things on topic, here's my campaign.
Casse:
172 B.C.
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142 B.C.
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Once again, the best and most fun campaign of my natural life. Here's a thread with some info on my current armies and a bit about the situation.
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...9&postcount=19
Basically, two of those identical main armies as shown, and the most recent one was put together for a far away expedition to wipe out a Gallic stronghold in Turkey. The situation turns chaotic now as Rome has declared war on me and suffered two huge defeats in a single turn at the hands of Calpornos the Thinker (formerly Calpornos the Wrathful), faction heir and extraordinary man. Carthage has invaded the south of Italy, taking one of Epirus' two remaining holdings on the peninsula. Now only one city remains under Epirote control in Italy, Carthage has creeped in to the south, Rome has just three cities and Casse are holding firm to the North.
Epirus was doing a good job of funneling in troops from the mainland onto the peninsula to keep their positions, but a recent invasion by the Carthaginian navy has changed all that, wiping out most if not all of the Epirote fleets. Now, they have huge armies waiting on the coast with no way to get across the channel, and only a battered force (albeit not small) left to defend their final city against the encroaching Carthaginians. Carthage did their part in supplying enough troops from Africa down to Sicily to make the invasion and holding off the counter-attack successful. Now both their armies in the area are not at a level to continue fighting at the moment. All the blood in Italy is shed by the Casse and Romans.
With no plans of moving further south into the peninsula, the rubble of the Roman cities I conquer, exterminate and destroy will have to be bestowed upon an ally, possibly Carthage, as "gifts". The situation is indeed heating up and I can't wait to see how it all unfolds. There's much more going on in other parts of the world as well, but that's for another time.
Is it just me or do the Eastern factions tend to expand... oddly. Baktria and Pahlav always seem to kind of swirl in and out of the north and the east.
Yeah, they do. They seem to like to grab whatever provinces open up when Seleukids lose them. Baktria often does take india, but those cities are so huge that it takes some big armies to do it. My most recent foray into Taxilia was soundly beaten back by their troops.
I've noticed something, when people blitz early in the game there tend to be large powerful nations in other parts of the world, far earlier than any nation becomes powerful in a campaign where the player goes slow to take things over. Maybe this is already a known bug in the total war engine, i didn't take any time to check.
We have a script in progress that should make blitzing a more dangerous strategy.
In one of my campaigns (I'll try to find which one and get a screeny) Pahlav was allied with Baktria and I guess either allied with Sauromatae or the just didn't attack them. They had a snaking empire that touched SE India, through their starting two territories, up to the Northern steppe, and west into Germannia, with their empire never more than one or two provinces wide.
From my campaign as the Romans, I should note that I foolishly did not heed the reccommended settings and so this is M/M. :(
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Some of the troop movements I observed suggest:
- The Baktrians are going pretty well, and seem to be trying to decide whether to go finish off the Yuezhi or not.
- The Hayasadan seem to be creeping around the top of the Black Sea, they don't seem to have gone the biff with the Sauromatae yet.
- The Sauromatae seem to be doing their thing and taking steppes with reasonable facility; they seem to be going west now though.
- The Getai are going great guns and are stomping all over the place with big stacks. Thankfully they have not given me any trouble yet.
- The Aedui have Iberian and Averni (!) protectorates and seem to be making some kind of super Celtic confederation (again?). I wish they'd fight each other a bit so I can gobble up some Averni lands.
- The Carthaginians seem to be napping - they have some large stacks wandering the Sahara looking for the source of the Nile or something (I assume).
God, I hate protectorates. I wish there was a way to just turn them off, for both AI and player use. And Jeez, Baktria is and odd military machine.
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My first (and current) campaign as Getia at 256 b.c. ...I'm kind of scared of the Sarmatians, they've been expanding like crazy all of a sudden..
Ten years, and about forty turns, on from my last map and this is what things look like:
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Baktrians - seem to still be moving on the Yeuzhi, although the next turn they signed a ceasefire and alliance with them (I noticed that the Averni and Aedui did this - but was it was really a protectorate, maybe this needs another message?)
Makedonians - have a whole lot of pretty black-bannered stacks wandering around near Pella, but aren't doing a whole lot. I wish they'd go the biff with the Getai and save me a lot of handwringing every time I see a Getai stack cruising around near my Alpine provinces. I think they are moving in on Byzantium finally though...
Ptolemies - are still slugging it out ineffectually in the desert with the Seleukids. They don't seem to be doing a lot of successful conquering, but it seems like slightly larger P. stacks are kicking sand in the faces of their smaller Sel. cousins.
Carthaginians - finally consolidating Africa, although a lot of their guys are still holidaying in sunny Sahara.
Sweboz - my noble Germanic allies are finally moving on the Aedui - who have been at war with me for some time. We'll see how it goes though.
Aedui - these miserable curs backstabbed me and managed to buy all my Alpine provinces before I could get my assassin cadres into action! Our "war" consists of their little fleet occassionally blockading my ports and them sending the odd diplomat who is generall caught nosing around Aventicos before his gruesome murder. Obviously they are getting lazy behind their Averni Shield
Averni - these fellows are insufficiently warlike I think, they send a big stack to look around the Alps, but then pull back. Their spies bother Mediolanum and Patavium sometimes, but I have governers in these towns as I am trying to grow them fast so its not a big deal.
Koinon Hellenon - didn't like me kicking the Epeirotes, of felt protective of the Oracle at Delphi because they sent a big (780+) stack to fight my diminished consular force (480+) under Cotta (who crossed the sea to fight Epeiros because he developed Restless Warmonger ;)). The miserable devils have another one on the way, and I am low on cavalry so it could be a bit grim.
Sauromatae - have reached the sea, and seem to be exploring their wide, flat, land.
Everyone else - didn't seem to do much since it went by to fast (or maybe I was taking a drink when it did?), not a lot of action anyway.
Epeiros - a special mention! Epeiros is gone now, thanks to Cotta, but their elephants sure were a scare! I like to think I am now in the mindset of the Camillan Romans regarding elephants (wishing for flaming pigs and silly pointy carts :P).
262 BC
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Not much going on so far, I am Casse btw.
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Since this pic, Rome has taken a couple more settlements and have made the Averni a protectorate. The Ptolemies are coming very close to taking Carthage out (they have around 4 full stacks in the area, give or take), and Iberia has also taken the whole peninsula while Baktria has firmed her grip in the East, scattering the remaining Parthians. The Seleukids declared war on me and are about to lose a few more of their Asia Minor provinces, and the Getai have nearly taken the whole Balkans and have become my ally (with a little help from 200,000 mnai).
This is definately an interesting situation. Go east and face the monstrous Ptolemies or head west and take on Rome, one of the richest factions aside from myself. The recent war with the Sels (even though they were my loyal allies for 52 years!) has made me want to go east, though...
1090618 mnai?? how the hell did you get that much dough??Quote:
Originally Posted by Cheexsta
You've got to be using some kind of money cheat..
Look at all those trade routes! It's not inconceivable a person could get that much if they tried a bit and had a reasonable fiscal policy. I've got about 250k as the Romans, and my game is a couple of decades earlier and I have not been pushing trade hard in my development programs.Quote:
Originally Posted by GMT
Mines are the really money maker, I will have to cut income from them a bit...
Nooooo, they're amazing! Playing as the Getai, I'm making enough bank to keep two very nice field armies active, maybe even another one now that I'm about to take Chresynospos(sp?) and have Nikomedia... talk about cash cow. (and I know that's the point, but hell, it's fun) I'd hate to see them go : ( As far as the huge amount of money in that posted image, it is possible protectorates or maybe cheats are involved, not just mines. But I suppose if it is solely from that... it might have to be toned down a bit, but yeah...Quote:
Originally Posted by QwertyMIDX
Nope, no cheats. Just top-level mines and trading ports ~;)Quote:
Originally Posted by GMT
Yes, I think mining income will have to be tweaked. Pella alone is making ~15,000 every turn just from mining income alone, while Byzantion and Athens are each making ~5,000 or so. I'm currently earning a good 49,000 per turn, and that's with 4 full stacks in the field (two of which are mostly levies, but still...).
I've been concentrating on trade for the past 50 years and regularly give 200,000+ to the Romans to keep them going ~D
Good fun.
It won't all go away, mines will still be a huge source of income, just not quite so much.
I guess the only reason I don't have such a surplus in my current Seleukid campaign I have a lot of under developed rebellious eastern provinces to dump a whole lot of cash into :embarassed:Quote:
Originally Posted by Cheexsta
Ah, well... at least I have this campaign to go wild in : )
Indeed, enjoy it while you can.
Ya. Mines have become such dominant sources of income that I'm going out of my way to send expeditionary forces overseas to secure provinces with mines, with the result that I have been sucked into a three-way fight with Qarthadast and Iberia over Pallantia, Baikor and Gades, while I have been forced into a major commitment (2 field armies!) in Greece, near wiping out Makedon and getting entangled in a life-and-death struggle with their ally the Getai that has culminated in me locking up their two fullstacks in Ak-Ink and Kallatis under siege. Mines shoudln't be doing this to me...
Well they kind of should...what do you think people were fighting about in Iberia in the first place?
The wild music makes them all crazy!Quote:
Originally Posted by QwertyMIDX
Here's another pic of the same game, 10 years later. Rome and Iberia have erupted in war, and there's absolute chaos all over Europe. I've finally declared war on the Armenians after they attacked the Seleucids, who had become my ally again. Perfect excuse to take the trade-rich Black Sea ~;) The Sand Wars are also still raging on, with the Ptolemies having a fairly strong upper-hand but keep losing lots of provinces to revolts.
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Has to be one of the most interesting RTW games I've seen in a long time...
Very neat. Gotta love that Baktrian empire. And the Hayasdan do look like a good place to attack next (since I think you were at war with seleukids already - poaching off their provinces where possible). The rest of Anatolia will help you make a lot more money (like you need it :grin:).
Okay, not the exhaustive documentation I had originally (before I discovered my screens were bad) but it might be interesting/useful all the same (I also realised that I am only thirty years in, not forty - I guess I am slow :P).
I'm the SPQR and the game is VH/M. Click the thumbnails for bigger images if you are inclined to do so.
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At this point in time I had just begun, after ten years of war against the Epeirotes and Eleutheroi in southern Italy, to tackle the north. The AI factions, for the most part, seem to be a bit sleepy. The Averni seem to be going okay though.
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Now the map shows the results of some of my antics in Gaul. My princeps, Blasio, obtained Vanquisher of the Gauls after a big battle and some enslavement in the taking of Mediolanum and decided that he wanted a triumph (or another one, since historically he'd already had one, according to his biography?). He lead a consular army through Massilia - which we permanently colonised - and then on through Gergovia, Viennos, Vesontio, and Bagacos, enslaving and burning everything down for plunder. I managed to buy peace and an alliance with the Aedui by giving them former Averni lands (although the Averni got Viennos back) and got an alliance with the Sweboz after I gave them Bagacos. I hoped, at this point, that the Sweboz and Aedui would tussle and that I could use the time to take Tolosa and wipe out the Averni - alas it was not to be...
The Seleukids seem to be making a bit of a comeback in the east, and the Yuezhi are taking territory too (which is not something I had seen much of earlier). The Hellenes, Epeirotes, and Makedonians are in a three-way war with fullstack armies wiping each other out left, right, and centre - I have a diplomat stationed in Demetrias who is monitoring Athens and Pella as well and its complete madness! The Aedui have a real bother in taking Eleutheroi towns in Gaul, and seem get rebuffed a lot - and even the Getai are having trouble marching to the Alps.
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As of this map, my adventures in Gaul are over. I have fortified and colonised Viennos - and it and Massilia are my depots for future expansion. I have an army moving back across the Alpine settlements, and garrisons of roarii and gallic auxiliaries (sotaroas from Massilia) ready to move in and man the walls. The Aedui, rather than using their newly granted lands to improve their armies and finish off the unification of Gaul, decided to improve their armies and attack me in Viennos (Blasio went back to try for Imperator again - but apparently the triggers were excessively stringent - poor old Blasio, the disappointment was the end of him :(). The Sweboz are now my marcher lords in Gaul and they haven't garrisoned the territories because I burned all the barracks and the Aedui hold Vesontio; I really hope the Sweboz and the Aedui fight a bit, but the Sweboz are getting a bit large under my patronage... Greece is also a bit more peaceful now, since I kicked out the Hellenes and the Epeirotes and Makedonians made a peace deal. The Makedonians and I allied to expel the Hellenes, but I am waiting for the backstab - or rather the frontstab - from them now.
The Carthaginians are ripe for a bit of a kicking too. I think I can hop an army over the Carthage and sack it and surrounding settlements good and proper then get the hell out before their big stacks arrive which might be good for long-term strategic positioning in the region. I have fought a few limited wars with the Carthaginians, but I've always been able to buy back their trade after taking my objectives. The Pontics seem to have stalled in their advance, and the Baktrians, Yuezhi, Pahlava, and Sauromatae are all running out of independent settlements to grab so perhaps there should be some wars in that part of the world soon.
Getai, 210 B.C.
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Damn Persians, always scattered all over the place. Now in the middle of Africa? Yikes.
Interesting that Sauromatae expansion.... They seem to have taken 5, maybe 6 provinces (hard to tell if they own Bosporion Tyrrannesis). Hmm... I used to think the Sarmatians had a hard time to grow, but looking at this thread it would seem they manage some conquests reasonably often. Is that a correct impression?
Also, some input on the Sauromatae from the player's POV would be greatly appreciated. Has anyone played Sarmatian campaigns? We are concerned about them and they will be tweaked in oncoming releases. For example, the price of their cavalry units is likely to drop meaningfully. Are there other things you think we should worry about?
If Bosporion Tyrrannesis is that piece of land to the east in between the Seleukids, Yuezhi, Pahlava and Baktria, then yes, that belongs to Sarmatia... those little devils. They've only recently started to expand this way as they were a protectorate of Hayasdan for a good while. However, that's all over with now, they're at war. The Sweboz also had a huge surge in conquest, having lain dormant for decades. Now they're in a see-saw war with the mighty Romans, gaining a lot of victories under they're powerful leader. And at this point I've kicked the Seleukids out of Turkey, launching raids from the strategic islands of Rhodos and Salamis. However, I'll probably give those back in the peace discussions as I have no interest of keeping them. They have been reduced to rubble after all ~;) .
208 B.C.
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Nah, that is Dahyu Haomavarga. BT is the province that straddles the strait communicating the Black Sea and the Sea of Azov, between Maeotis, Skythia and Taurike Chersonesos. And, on a closer look, no, the Sarmatians don't seem to own it after all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wonderland
Thanks for the input!~:)
Just what in the hell is Pahlava doing in the middle of North Africa?!?
Finally had time to do some gaming the last two days, and had some prolonged EB experience. Must say it's excellent! Playing as Baktria I've conquered Kophen and Gava-Haomavarga in some hard-fought battles where I was outnumbered, particularly up north. After some years of vicious fighting against brigades and migrating Indians those darned Seleucids broke their alliance and attacked Baktra. Armenia and Hayasdan stayed loyal and I convinced the Ptolemaioi to join the fight; after that a huge battle outside Baktra that I really enjoyed.
It's great thus far, next week I'll finally start on some of the description work I promised to do.
Edit: one minor bug I noticed, Pantodopoi shields look strange from behind. All transparent and stuff.
That's good news, considering Armenia and Hayasdan are one and the same :tongue: .Quote:
Originally Posted by Geoffrey S
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218BC, me is the Romani as always :2thumbsup:
Big scary Germanians just started throwing huge amounts of men into my eastern most province.. Panonia Illyricum or something like that... Where Sagestica is... It sucks, i still have only the earliest of Roman troops and although with good tactics they can be great, they stopped being an effective attacking force long ago and for the last 35-40 years i haven't expanded beyond what my last great leader conquered before his death...
My armies are ok in defence as i say but... I lose large amounts of them every battle and am constantly having to send them home for retraining and bring new ones in from home which isn't really a problem considering i'm making about 40k a turn and have over 100k to play with everytime i finish building stuff... Anyway enough about them... The Ptolemies... I'm shocked... I did plan on conquering the city of Carthage a few years after i get the first reforms but if the Ptolemies get there first i will be staying friends with them... I've given Carthage huge sums of money over the past 5 years to fight them but they never seem to do anything... I've also given the Seleukids large amounts of money to fight them but they also did nothing and now are even allied to them!
Makedonia doing well expanding east a little... They're very very rich. Casse have taken all of Britain! Now if they could just use the fleet they have to expand into Europe...
Iberia is pwning... Rampaging through Gaul already taken like 5 cities there... Good campaigns... Looking forward to 209BC for the reforms then i can go on the offensive once more!
They do happen in 209 right? :sweatdrop:
Sweet. Don't worry too much about the Ptolemies, though, they won't be able to take out Carthage that easily. In my last Makedonian game the ex-Carthaginian provinces kept revolting whenever the Ptolemies took them. The Ptolemies will have Carthage under their thumb for the most part, but they won't really be able to do much else.
I'm actually very tempted to start a Roman campaign, now...
Oops. Meant Armenia and Parthia. :shame:Quote:
Originally Posted by Wonderland
Oh man, that campaign is looking sweet as hell. Interesting developments, even in the east. Not a crazy jungle like in mine. I've been holding off on the definitive campaign until later versions, if not the full release of the mod. Till then, I've played an extensive Casse campaign, well over 150 years and now playing a nice Getai campaign. Probably do another faction or two, hellenic maybe and carthage, before taking a crack at Rome. Can't wait for more developments!
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214BC... Not long after my last post but some interesting things happening... Makedonia expanding east a lot more and north too all the way up into eastern Germanic lands.. Egypt has laid siege to ALL of Carthage's remaining cities and the best thing of all... The Casse have landed an army with a general on mainland Europe and are laying siege to a city along the coast! Wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
That's so awesome. Makedonia running wild! I can't believe the Casse have conquered the island and are actually breaking out. They're still only with their original province in my campaign. The Ptolemies? Fuhgetaboutit.
Getai 203 B.C.
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This has been going pretty good. The war between the Romans and Sweboz still raging on, wonderful stuff. I have an extensive network of spies all over the damn place so I see just about everything that goes on. Great battles, back and forth. The Sweboz really owe it all to their incredible leader, Swahaut or somesuch. The recent Roman reforms have given them an edge though, and Swahaut is getting older, just turned 50. I gave the Seleukids all their Turkish holdings back, albeit completely destroyed. Trying to give their allies, the Armenians, a reason to attack undefended cities.
I love how there's no telling how a game will go when you start a campagin. I think I've seen a report of every faction doing at least pretty well.
One thing you can count on; there will be Persians where there ought not be Persians.Quote:
Originally Posted by QwertyMIDX
Anyone seen the Arverni win the civil war? That's the one faction I havent seen do all that well (ie, expand much), perhaps they have somewhere in these eight pages, but if so, I don't recall it.
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My last one of the night. Just got the reforums as the Romani... Looking forward to using my new troops tomorrow. The Ptolemies are worrying... They have some seriously scary armies... I have a spy in Africa and i've looked at one of their full stacks... It had over 10 units of these pikemen in a chainmail suit with a relatively small shield - i forget their name but it says they are somewhat elite and their defense stat is scary... They had 5 units of galatian swordsmen who were wearing chainmail too and had a big shield... I forget their name also but again their stats were scary... Every unit they had in the army had 2 silver chevrons or more and some even had gold... No wonder the Carthies only have 2 cities left.
The Germans are just annoying me now... They will not leave my eastern provinces alone at all... They send a few armies, get defeated, accept a ceasefire and then come back 4 turns later with more men for me to kill... I've raided their cities that border me, exterminated and destroyed then left them, they re-take and come back for more... They just won't stop... They've actually taken Sagestica from me which was worrying at first as they had another huge army nearby and all mine were retraining in Arretium and Ariminum...
The Casse failed to take the city in my last screenshot but they're back for more... Sieging an Aediu city with 2 full stack armies... I'm proud of them. I've been giving the Seleucids money and demanding they attack the Ptolemies but i think they're just using the money i give them to go on vacation sitting on a nice warm beach somewhere laughing at the stupid Romans who think they're actually going to use the money to launch an attack on the most powerful faction in the game...
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Have you been helping the Casse at all or is everything that's happened been of their own design? Also, you could give your Sweboz border town you raid to the Getai or some other faction as a buffer zone. Ought to be pretty effective for a while. Maybe an ally of theirs so they don't come back for more, and if they do, they'll have other things to worry about. And the Ptolies shouldn't be much of a problem 'cause they most likely won't be crossing the sea to raid you or anything... although I guess you never, what with the Casse doing what their doing. I can't believe their back with two more stacks.
Makedonian campain
Year 268BC
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Year 257BC winter
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Year 248BC winter
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Cartaginians and Ptolemaioi are alies for looong time, Ptolemaioi and Seleukids are in war from the beginning, but only effect is Sel capturing one city north of Anticheia.
Sarmatians are under atack from Hayasdan and Phalava, were left with one province, but another rebeled back to them.
Romani have peace with everybody and and for years they were doing nothing.
Everything the Casse is doing is without financial aid from me. I've given money to the Greeks, (who are all but dead) the Aediu, the Carthies, the Seleukids and the Baktrians. The Casse have several armies actually just standing around on Britain... Hopefully they will bring them across soon to join the fight. I'll get a screenshot for ya.
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I just noticed something interesting - Massalia has rebelled to the Greeks and they have a full stack there... I wondered why small Greek armies had been wandering into northern Italy. I'll let you know how that one works out. I might give them some money to see if i can get them to expand more into Gaul perhaps... What a difference in history that would be.
Wow, Parthia has a large, coherent empire in O's campaign. Interesting how long that'll last until they start sprouting up all over the place. And I'm loving that Casse expansion. I guess I have a soft spot, I played my first EB campaign for over a 150 years as the Casse *tear*. Two general lead armies on the mainland, wow. I wonder what kind of troops their wielding.
Getai 200 B.C.
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War has broken out with mighty Rome. All alliances have shifted, madness, madness! An unsteady alliance has been forged with Sweboz, having had a common enemy in Rome. They have however ceased hostilities for the time being. The Seleukids are also an ally of mine as I practically handed over almost all of Turkey to them. They're at war with Ptolemaoi, few battles here and there. A bit of hard luck. A superb prospect of mine, one Zalmoxis, was assasinated at the ripe age of 23 by a Roman, who was then made short work of by an assasin of mine. It was a tough loss though... very tough. He was to be the next great general. However, I do have at least two others who are leading the campaign against the Romans, one of which is already making strides towards greatness.
https://img231.imageshack.us/img231/...rd010lg.th.jpg Not the best lineup ever unfortunately but at least they've got them on the mainland now and if they can do it once, they can do it again... I decided not to give them money and gave it to the Greeks in Massalia instead to see if i can get them to do something.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wonderland
As for your Getai campaign - Looks great. Rarely ever see any Getai campaign screenshots around here.
-Those crazy purple pyjama people of the east... They always end up with a city inside other factions empires... I might ally myself with them and give them Alalia just for something to do...
Wow! That Makedonian expansion in Dayve's campaign is something I've never seen here before. They and the Epeirotes have managed to coexist, while they subdued the other greeks in Hellas (except the Epeirotes took Delphi), and then all of Ionian Greece, both sides of the Bosphoros, then greek cities at Kallatis, Olbia, and the Crimea. And all the factions look to still be alive in 209 too, with the Greeks making their only real stand at Massilia. A wonderful campaign there Dayve - great screenshots!
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201BC. After my faction leader and also best general (3 stars) was assasinated by dirty German assassins, (left me annoyed for a while i can tell you) i sent my 2 best other generals with a legion each into the Germanian land just north of Sagestica and put an end to this skirmishing/raiding BS by exterminating all 3 of the cities there and gifting them to the Greeks, who still haven't built a unit in them for 4 years despite having almost 200k Minai in gifts from me... Oh well at least it stopped the Germans annoying me.
The Iberians are pushing right up the west coast of Gaul and they have some pretty big armies about the place. Casse have gone back to Britannia without taking any Gallic cities, unfortunately... Ptolemies keep taking Carthy cities but they eventually just rebel back to the Cartheginians... Macedon hasn't expanded much but isn't showing signs of giving way to that empire of hers anytime soon.
Lastly i have declared war on the Epirotes and taken Epidamnos... The next city of theirs i capture will put me border to border with Macedon, who are allied with the Epirotes.. That should be interesting.
Ok, maybe I was wrong about the Ptolemies. They seem to be owning Carthage pretty well, aside from a few revolts from the looks of it.
Very interesting ~D
Getai 198 B.C.
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Well, took care of Rome pretty nicely. A few outnumbered, heroic victories, good experience for troops and generals and now, the war is over. I gave their bordering cities to the Sweboz to end hostilities. Rome is currently at war with Iberia only and I am enjoying some peacetime. However, I have a bad feeling about those crazy germans... Ptolemies are almost completely gone from the Arabian peninsula, Seleukids making progress there.
Them crazy Germans will stab you in the back any chance they get just like they did me. We were allies up until they took a town which bordered my Sagestica, then the armies started to march... One even marched into northern Italy! :furious3: Disgraceful! They were actually quite difficult to beat at first... I lost a huge battle and then they went on to take Sagestica for me, but my faction leader marched right in and took it back. He got assasinated though... I'd advise you to keep a spy and an assassin with every army to be sure they don't assasinate anybody good... I was well cheesed off when they did my faction leader.
Anyway good luck with your campaign... I will be invading Getai land soon myself i foresee, they keep marching armies into my land and then leaving... It's only a matter of time before they lay siege to my richest city, Dalminion, which is making over 10,000 minai a turn. :2thumbsup:
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226 BC Makedon campaign. I expanded in too many directions at once. I was spread too thin, then my allies, the romans, decided to pick a fight with me too. I could maintain my borders, but turns sometimes took me an hour, as I had to play out multiple battles every turn. It ended up being a chore, so I just threw in the towel.
I gave my parthian allies a lot of money, hoping they could distract the factions around them, and also kept good relations with Carthage, but despite the Carthaginians huge economical power, they failed to maintain war with any of their neighbors. So I ended up fighting everyone at once. I wish I could have finished it, I developed some good generals, and had a lot of fun, but it just got too tedious.
No kidding... All that by 226BC? Look at my last campaign screenshot in this thread - It's now 196BC and that's all i have... I've been lucky... The Aediu have stayed allied to me the whole game... I even own all of northern Italy except for Mediolanium and they still haven't even sent 1 soldier onto my land... The Ptolemies to the south are busy with Carthage and Seleucids so they haven't bothered me... I'm just slowly conquering the Greek peninsula at the moment.
The way you expanded is pretty impressive though, i can imagine how much it must've sucked to have to fight all those battles every turn...
Well there wasn't so many battles every turn until the last five years or so. The Hayasdan had all that territory north of getai, and were harrassing me there, so I just invaded those provinces. I also moved out of pontus, taking that territory from the ptolemies and the seleuks.
I was thinking earlier that I could just abandon some of those provinces and try to finish it, all I have to do is take the Itallian provences, that will be a lot of fights though.
The Hayasdan definetly did pretty well as far as AI goes in this campaign though, and I didn't aid them at all.
It's cool that Rome went into Iberia instead of central gaul in your game too.
Those Armenians seem to be going bonkers in a few too many games, methinks.
I just downloaded your save from the interesting saves thread Dayve. The ptolemies invasion of carthage is pretty awesome, I've never seen the AI be that successfull in an invasion.
I like your organization too, the forts with large armies are cool.
Yeah I wish they would have pushed a little harder, I was pressuring them to attack the Iberians, I was pressuring the Carthaginians too. Neither one really got a lot accomplished.Quote:
QwertyMIDX: It's cool that Rome went into Iberia instead of central gaul in your game too.
It really is cool how diverse things can end up with different games.
I wouldn't abandon it altogether... Abandon those worthless landlocked northern ones and pull back to choke points which you can defend in the mountains of northern Greece and rivers etc... Then continue to expand east, Alexander style... :sweatdrop:
Roman Campaign, Medium/Medium v0.7.3a,
251BC
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227BC, I sort of expanded much faster than I wanted to.
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Also I dont play long stints, so there might be some less expansion due to load/save bug (f.i. Aedui have besieged Viennos of the Arverni many times with far superior army without taking it)
The Yuezi and the Baktrians seem to be doing better in your campaign than most I've seen. Heres one with just the AI playing.
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Thats 233BC, I just left it running all night, woke up and had a message that the Romani had won. So there was zero save/loading going on here, the only faction with protectorates was the Romani, and they had...Iberia, and one of the gaulic factions I think as protectorates. Lots of alliances still though. I like that the makedons are doing fairly well too.
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My new campaign as the Epirotes, VH/M, 0.74, 269bc. The world seems mostly calm right now, except for the Romans, angry at the loss of their capitol :sweatdrop:.