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Re: The Will of the Senate - out of character thread II
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Originally Posted by econ21
In view of the absence of any declared candidates for First Consul, I am going to allow x-DANGEr to use Publius Pansa now if he wishes to run for First Consul. Publius Pansa has stood in the past and is one of the most suitable in-character generals for the post in terms of age etc. I don't want us to recycle past First Consuls just yet. I've sent PMs to shifty157 and FLYdude to see if they want to stand again. But competition is always good.
I would suggest that Luca Mamilius also be made available for any Upper House member who would like to move to the Lower House. Marcus hasn't posted at all and it would be a shame to see a great avatar like Luca go to waste. Also, remember that Gnaeus Hordeonius is available and is, essentially, a blank slate who can be developed in a multitude of way.
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Re: The Will of the Senate - out of character thread II
Has Destroyer of Hope ever posted ? He controls one of the most interesting avatars and I feel he's going to waste.
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Re: The Will of the Senate - out of character thread II
Destroyer of Hope voted in 280BC, but not since.
I let Marcus Camillus keep his avatar as he is busy on the next version of RTR Platinum (which maybe savegame compatible) and has already contributed a lot to the PBM via his 4TPY and Roman leadership scripting.
Anyway the current hiccup, if there is one, seems to be over a shortage of players to be First Consul rather than a shortage of avatars.
On another matter, I am starting to incline towards the "peace party" of the Senate. I think we've reached a critical mass as Rome and can pretty much steamroller anyone we please (TinCow's ravaging of Gaul seemed to prove that). I suspect the next player could trash the Greeks, Macedonians and Spanish, which might rather take the fun out of things from then on. But I'm not quite sure how to slow things down. The Apollonia expedition was an example of some fun that did not greatly harm the AI. Any other such ideas?
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Re: The Will of the Senate - out of character thread II
If we do not act now, Macedon wil wipe out Illyria and Thrace, and perhaps Greece as well. Trust me on this. I've seen it countless times already. In five years we will have to wipe out stack after stack after stack of Macedonians each turn. That would be interesting, but it is too easy on medium difficulty. It's just a slaughter. I've been in the same situation on VH/VH, and it took me 50 turns and a scorched earth-extermination policy to finally crush them. I killed at least 35.000 Macedonians and slaughtered in excess of 50.000 civilians. Felt like a regular Hitler. The only way to break them was massacre their civilian population so they could only recruit mercenaries (huge unit size). After that campaign I stepped away from VH campaign difficulty. I'm having a lot more fun on H campaign difficulty.
This is not a demand or something, just a warning that this might turn out different from your expectations, Simon. Perhaps you might rethink the campaign settings.
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Re: The Will of the Senate - out of character thread II
I can't run for First Consul yet.. The PC here is crap, and the one back home needs to be upgraded.
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Re: The Will of the Senate - out of character thread II
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Originally Posted by x-dANGEr
I can't run for First Consul yet.. The PC here is crap, and the one back home needs to be upgraded.
That's fine - don't worry, I wasn't saying you should, I just did not want you to be excluded because of a one day difference in the avatar handover. :2thumbsup:
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Re: The Will of the Senate - out of character thread II
I was a bit busy yesterday, but I do plan to run, so you should see a manifesto... today. But we certainly need more candidates, so it may be time for econ and/or DDW to re-run.
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Re: The Will of the Senate - out of character thread II
DDW technically can't run because it hasn't been 10 years. econ21 certainly can, but I'd be worried that Quintus would die well before his turn was done. I've personally urged him to 'abandon' Quintus as an avatar, to be left unmoved in Rome for the rest of his life, and take up a younger one.
I don't see any problems if you're the only candidate though. The Senate still has the power to regulate whatever they want. Frankly it's probably a bit more historical since many Consuls, especially late in the Republic, were essentially chosen beforehand by influential Senators or groups and the election was merely a formality.
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Re: The Will of the Senate - out of character thread II
I agree - there's no problem with an unopposed election. shifty157 may also declare. My concern was more that the First Consul should be leading the Senate debate and getting the motions they need to fulfill their manifestoes. But given the ongoing wars, the First Consul should have enough freedom to have a very fun reign regardless.
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Re: The Will of the Senate - out of character thread II
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Originally Posted by FLYdude
I was a bit busy yesterday, but I do plan to run, so you should see a manifesto... today. But we certainly need more candidates, so it may be time for econ and/or DDW to re-run.
Ah, OK. I was going to say if no-one else comes forward that I would stand for Consul, even though I wasn't planning to do so just yet. My character is only 30 and isn't even a legate yet, so from a RP perspective isn't a good choice. From a RL perspective I start my 3 weeks of lates next week (I do my shifts in blocks of 3 weeks) which doesn't give me much time to play - I will have the time to fight battles, but not to run an Empire.
But since Pater intends to stand, that problem is resolved :rtwyes:
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Re: The Will of the Senate - out of character thread II
I just noticed that we have 4 slinger units at the ford at Massila. That's above the two above the norm for a Consular army and if we are just going to defend the ford with a Praetorian army, we should have only one.
I am partly responsible here as I suggested recruiting Gallic slinger mercs, but that was after Shifty157 lost his lone funditores unit and was facing stiff odds.
I think we should stick to a tight limit on missile units in our armies in order for it to feel Roman and to give the AI more of a chance. I find missiles incredibly effective against the AI in TW games and value my funditores second only to the 2HP regenerating generals' escorts. But when you take 4 missiles to a river battle, it is just slaughter.
Also on the subject of army composition, I really think we should recruit more cavalry. I know - like warships - they are expensive, but keeping the economy tight is a good thing for the campaign, IMO. Also, without real cavalry, we have to overuse the 2HP regenerating generals' escorts, which is heroic and all, but still rather ahistorical and a little cheap. In line with the rules on historical armies, each Praetorian army should have one cavalry unit and each Consular army should have two.
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Re: The Will of the Senate - out of character thread II
I just have a gameplay question. Yesterday I started a RTR campaign with Carthage. To the point, I had four cavalry units: One Sacred Band Cavalry, one Punic Cavalry and another unit I forgot it's name along with the General. I charged the enemy greek general, and it took me 17 men of my cav + 2 mins to kill him.. This RTR is really getting annoying.. I mean, cavalry should drop like flies, not stand like pillars. 0-i
Any thoughts?
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Re: The Will of the Senate - out of character thread II
RTR has reduced kill speeds across the board, so units take longer to die. Personally, I have not found cavalry that tough. In fact, quite the contrary - the regular ones drop like flies, in my experience. But the general's ones still have 2 hit points and that makes them tougher whether in vanilla or RTR. (In Alexander TW, a barbarian general can smash up a phalanx).
Also do bear in mind, if you are attacking with cavalry, your attack stat has been nerfed so you don't kill that much after the charge has run its course. Try fighting the generals with spearmen - you might get better results.
I don't mind the toughness of generals too much - the AI puts their general in too much danger and in real life I expect it would be hard to decapitate an army. But the player can exploit general's toughness, especially when combined with their free regenerative powers. That's why I was saying we should start playing with regular cav in this PBEM.
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Re: The Will of the Senate - out of character thread II
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Originally Posted by x-dANGEr
I charged the enemy greek general, and it took me 17 men of my cav + 2 mins to kill him.
Probably the enemy general had 'hale and hearthy' and/ or 'in the pink' and / or 'heroic saviour' and / or 'scarred' traits. That makes him (and in case of heroic saviour the biodyguard also) have even more hit points. So the general would have the health of an elephant or better even.
Anyway, one of the most ineffective ways to kill heavy cavalry is to use heavy cavalry against them. If your charge is not very succesfull (which is likely against mobile cavalry) you get the equivalent of two knights in medieval armour banging away at each other with pillows.
Tactics 101 :
Cavalry against Swords.
Swords against Spears.
Spears against Cavalry.
Cheerio,
DDW
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Re: The Will of the Senate - out of character thread II
I vote that Quintus be "retired" and Econ21 take another Avatar :2thumbsup: .
I’ll be getting my Broadband on Tuesday, placing an order for required PC upgrades in the next day or so (when I remember to see what parity my current RAM is). :dizzy2:
THEN, I’ll look to downloading all the mods etc for this game and will consider running myself……will retire Decius of course…..but I’ll have to play at least one single player campaign as so much is changed between Rome and RTR. :furious3:
Oh and Econ21 (see, remembering not to use his real name)……*cough*….Carthage PBM ring any bells?? :embarassed:
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Re: The Will of the Senate - out of character thread II
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Originally Posted by Death the destroyer of worlds
Probably the enemy general had 'hale and hearthy' and/ or 'in the pink' and / or 'heroic saviour' and / or 'scarred' traits. That makes him (and in case of heroic saviour the biodyguard also) have even more hit points. So the general would have the health of an elephant or better even.
Anyway, one of the most ineffective ways to kill heavy cavalry is to use heavy cavalry against them. If your charge is not very succesfull (which is likely against mobile cavalry) you get the equivalent of two knights in medieval armour banging away at each other with pillows.
Tactics 101 :
Cavalry against Swords.
Swords against Spears.
Spears against Cavalry.
Cheerio,
DDW
Well, 8x cav should beat 1x cav fast no matter what.
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Re: The Will of the Senate - out of character thread II
I would like to stand for First Consul. Could I switch to the Lower House and borrow Tricky_Lady's avatar?
EDIT: Oh, and somebody may need to send me the Metropolis/Naval mod and the Landblock mod, seeing as the RTR forums are down and I can't find any way of accessing them.
EDIT2: Right, well the other guy is already the First Consul by default so I guess you can scrap this. I will just try again next time... :(
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Re: The Will of the Senate - out of character thread II
FLYdude will probably be in office for the next couple of weeks, Silver Rusher, so you should have plenty of time to install the mod. Let me know when you have it installed the mod and got a savegame to load, then I will assign a general as your avatar.
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Re: The Will of the Senate - out of character thread II
I propose motion...what ?
Oh, the polls are already open :~)
Would you be so kind to give a one-day warning before the polls open, econ21 ? That will give me some warning to rally support for motions with not enough seonders.
x-dANGEr, they will, eventually. The power of cavalry is in their charge and the fear they cause to infantry. After rereading my post it must have seemed a little pedantic (is that the right English word ?). That was not my intention.
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Re: The Will of the Senate - out of character thread II
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Originally Posted by Death the destroyer of worlds
Would you be so kind to give a one-day warning before the polls open, econ21 ? That will give me some warning to rally support for motions with not enough seonders.
I think I mentioned it in the heads-up PM I sent to everyone and it was on page 1 of the in-character thread. Yesterday, I was a little more focussed on drumming up a First Consul before the deadline (although I did have a cute idea for a triumvirate of past First Consuls as a stand-by though).
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Well, at least this will give me time to prepare a decent manifesto.
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Re: The Will of the Senate - out of character thread II
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I think I mentioned it in the heads-up PM I sent to everyone and it was on page 1 of the in-character thread. Yesterday, I was a little more focussed on drumming up a First Consul before the deadline (although I did have a cute idea for a triumvirate of past First Consuls as a stand-by though).
You are right of course, but I got used to waiting for your regular post in the in character thread before acting. My 'real' life is very hectic and I tend to forget the time.
Cute idea about the triumvate, but I wonder if we could have agreed on the number of sides of a square :laugh4: This would probably have sparked the first PBeM civil war :laugh4:
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Re: The Will of the Senate - out of character thread II
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Originally Posted by Death the destroyer of worlds
Cute idea about the triumvate, but I wonder if we could have agreed on the number of sides of a square :laugh4: This would probably have sparked the first PBeM civil war :laugh4:
I had it all worked out. You would have been assigned Gaul and TinCow Greece, I would have been the spider in the web in Roma. You could have taken on the Iberians with the Consular I Army and TinCow could have fought the Macedonians and the Greeks with, say, 2 units of Italian spearmen :eyebrows: .
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Re: The Will of the Senate - out of character thread II
It seems that am the only one who voted NO to all the motions except the last.. Feels lonely here ~:(
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Re: The Will of the Senate - out of character thread II
Very funny econ21 :laugh4:
In the frantic debates in the senate my OOC motions seem to have been overlooked :
Motion OOC 1 : Acting consuls that have been awarded a triumph will be awarded with the Roman Hero trait. If they already posses this trait, the Hero trait will be increased to National Hero. If they already posses that trait, the trait will be increased to Legendary Hero.
Motion OOC 2 : As a reward for his great role playing Augustus Verginius is awarded with the trait 'Despises Trouser-wearers', to accentuate his hatred for the barbarians.
Your thoughts, gentlemen and ladies ?
EDIT : x-dANGEr, I voted no to at least one motion, I believe. So you're not completely alone ~;)
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Re: The Will of the Senate - out of character thread II
I definitely like the idea of making 'triumphs' mean something concrete. Traits are the perfect way of doing this. The hero line is certainly a possibility on this one that could be used, but I would prefer a trait that is less likely to already be earned by the player. As it is, all first consuls end up campaigning a great deal and all campaigning generals end up with at least the first level of the hero trait. I'll take a look through the trait list and see if I see anything else that could work.
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Re: The Will of the Senate - out of character thread II
Skimming through the traits, the only two possibilities seem to be the hero and the vanquisher lines of traits. I would think the latter slightly more appropriate (EB have a trait that gives give +3 influence for a triumph) but I guess many people who get a triumph will hit the influence cap. Maybe give the recipient the choice of either of these? (Either the basic trait or to the next level if the general already has started along this line).
I've no objection to TinCow getting that anti-trouser trait if he wants it, although the paranoid Quintus is not sure Verginius actually hates smelly barbarians, as opposed to pretending to hate them, so he can get Senate approval to plunder all their cities. ~;)
We should remember to propose TinCow a triumph in the interim session.
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Re: The Will of the Senate - out of character thread II
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Originally Posted by econ21
Skimming through the traits, the only two possibilities seem to be the hero and the vanquisher lines of traits. I would think the latter slightly more appropriate (EB have a trait that gives give +3 influence for a triumph) but I guess many people who get a triumph will hit the influence cap. Maybe give the recipient the choice of either of these? (Either the basic trait or to the next level if the general already has started along this line).
I've no objection to TinCow getting that anti-trouser trait if he wants it, although the paranoid Quintus is not sure Verginius actually hates smelly barbarians, as opposed to pretending to hate them, so he can get Senate approval to plunder all their cities. ~;)
We should remember to propose TinCow a triumph in the interim session.
Traits : The vanquisher line of traits is much easier to get than the hero line of traits. It is easy to become a Local or Popular Hero, but reaching Roman Hero is very hard to get, and those beyond require countless heroic victories to get (I only had one Legendary Hero once in dozens of campaigns, and Roman Hero's were very rare. In contrast to this I've seen hundreds of Great Vanquishers and Conquerors). See the Miniguide to your Generals command trait increasing for an analysis of how hard to get some traits are.
Trouser trait : You know you want it, TinCow :laugh4:
Triumph : Definitely, my mistake for proposing it too late, but then again, I'm not the only senator here, aren't I ? I felt it would be a bit 'inappropriate' for Lucius to be the one to propose the triumph considering his fierce opposition.
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Re: The Will of the Senate - out of character thread II
Hate to be a pain and go off topic, but can I direct you to: https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...05#post1182605
Where I have some technical questions. If I get them resolved I can start looking at taking part in this game actively, and I just know that TinCow and/or Econ21 will know the answers!
:2thumbsup:
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Re: The Will of the Senate - out of character thread II
Sorry, Braden - I don't know anything about Nvidia graphics cards and RTW. I use an Radeon 9800 PRO and according to Beirut, who has the same card, it runs all the latest games adequately, which fits my observation.
Just a warning to PBMers: it is best not to visit the RTR forums right now. They were hacked and although back up running, my anti-virus went crazy yesterday detecting trojans etc and the same today. Other people here are reporting the same experience.
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Hiya Braden,
Been a long time since I checked out the recent cards, but I vaguely recall that the Nvidia 256Mb 6600LE performed badly, especially with RTW. Then again, I might be completely wrong. I got a GeForce 9600 myself, which performs quite well, but is on the lower end of performance I'd want. I recommend checking the offical RTW forum's rech support section. There is the info you need. I didn't have time to look today, but perhaps tomorrow.
Hackers of RTR forums should be throw of the Tarpeian Rock in my opinon. It was working again yesterday, but it crashed again today.
On a positive note, the current dutch goverment, which I greatly disliked, has fallen today and I am getting lots of inspiration for the senate debates :laugh4:
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Re: The Will of the Senate - out of character thread II
The 6600LE will slow down on max settings on Huge unit size. That said, it will play the game perfectly decently with nice graphics.
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Re: The Will of the Senate - out of character thread II
Nice to see you've made a quick start on the First Consul reports, FLYdude. :2thumbsup:
I've got a feeling the Macedonians will pounce on Antigonea if given half the chance. We have to autoresolve if it is not held by a Lower House member, although I would be very cautious about leaving a Lower House member in an unwalled border settlement with a small army.
Maybe Verginius's army being nearby will deter the Macedonians since we are not at war with them. Strong border forces tended to deterr war in earlier Total War games. But in RTW, at least when war comes, in my experience the AI is positively foolhardy in the kind of battles it is willing to risk. It could be much improved if it were programmed not to attack unless it has a clear edge.
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Thanks for the Info regarding technical stuff. I’ve been forced to post here as this is the ONLY total war related website I can access from work.
I have yet to get a net connection at home so can’t visit the .com or the .org’s home page etc.
The 6600LE is currently sold out just about everywhere, and I can understand why – its cheap. I can’t quite get my head around why it should perform so badly on Rome as the 6600 chipset is Nvidia’s “flagship” of late. I can only assume its the rest of the card that lets it down somewhat.
For those who’ve not visited the Tech section here – I have two games I play (will play), Rome and eventually RTR and World of Warcraft.
This is what I use my PC almost exclusively for so need upgrades for these really, with a main focus on Rome and RTR as any “slowdown” etc on WoW is more likely due to bandwidth than PC issues these days.
Back on Topic (again, apologies for a fast hijack), I don’t know how you managed it FlyDude! So fast and well presented. Macedon is sure to launch an attack with both those armies in a season or two and its certain we’ll not get any alliances with anyone due to the poor diplomatic AI – though for IC reasons we have to keep trying.
I can see the Republic owning the Balkans and perhaps even touching Asia-Minor and Thrace within three Consulships!
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Re: The Will of the Senate - out of character thread II
Well, the 6800 256 definitely performs very well on pretty much everything out there and it's only a little over $100 USD. It won't hold up to next-gen games, but no card in that price range will. I personally don't plan on upgrading from my 6800 until Crysis comes out. MTW2 should run perfectly find on it.
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Re: The Will of the Senate - out of character thread II
Ooopppss...forgot to mention, I'm limited to only AGPx8 cabable cards as my motherboard has not PCI-E slots....which is a real shame as I've just found a 6600GT for only £58.99!!
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Re: The Will of the Senate - out of character thread II
Come on everyone, cut the video card talk.
It is time for some debate!
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Re: The Will of the Senate - out of character thread II
Still want to encourage Econ21 to drop Quintus as an Avatar during this Consulship.
What's everyones opinion on that? Its not my idea but I seem to have been the only one to support it so far.
I'm going to try and push the Republic in to some serious conflict with Greece and Macedon in the next two consulships myself - we could do with some more "desperate" battles like Apolloina (sp) to help excite the game up at bit.
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Re: The Will of the Senate - out of character thread II
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Still want to encourage Econ21 to drop Quintus as an Avatar during this Consulship.
I feel that econ21 should be the judge of that himself. (By the way, in my own campaign he passed away at just 61 ! So much for his hale and hearthy trait).
Shall we say that if an avatar is over 60 years old you are allowed to ask for a new one and make the 'old geezer' a governor somewhere ?
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Re: The Will of the Senate - out of character thread II
I believe the modal age for senior citizenship is 65 ~;)
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Good idea TinCow, how about an in-game ruling:
Any player of the Lower House who’s Avatar has reached the age of 65 can request a replacement Avatar to use. Such Avatars will be allocated as the Youngest active Avatar available.
…..how does that sound?
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Re: The Will of the Senate - out of character thread II
I'll hold on to Quintus. I've had a very good crack at the whip and the life cycle we have got going with avatars (under 30, people putting in the time to get to legate before assuming an independent command; 60+ people retiring to be governors) seems a good way of sharing the gameplay out among Lower House members.
As the Republic grows, I think we can find more opportunities for Apollonia type missions and hence more chances for Lower House members to get some of the action. Looking at the history of Rome, they often did seem to have their fingers in many different pies. In one RTR Rome campaign, I sent a spoiling expedition to Asia Minor as the Seleucids were getting to strong. Campaigning that far from home, with huge disloyal settlements, was challenging. We could also think of idiosyncratic missions - an expedition to the Crimea to recruit Samartian auxiliaries, for example. Or a march down the silk road to control the trade there etc. I like DDWs idea of getting into entangling alliances to justify such interventions, although we may have to bite the bullet in terms of what we have to pay to get alliances.
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Re: The Will of the Senate - out of character thread II
I am going to assign Gnaeus Hordeonius to Silver Rusher in the Upper House for the time being. I know there are other Upper House members more senior, but they have not posted much and Silver Rusher seems to be our most active participant without an avatar. If he wants to run for First Consul soon, maybe he can trade Gnaeus for Tricky_Lady's avatar as discussed. However, I would like him to install the mod and successfully load up a savegame first before I make that trade (I want to avoid the kind of delays etc that have frustrated other PBMs).
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Gnaeus Hordeonius has just fought his first battle alongside Lucius Aemilius at the river crossing at Massilia.
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Re: The Will of the Senate - out of character thread II
River crossing at Massilia? More Gauls no doubt. If they weren't Gauls then this is serious.
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By the way, about the seniority issue. Can we have a rule where if they don't post for say, a week after getting their avatar (or voting for first consul or motions) newer, more active members take priority for the avatar? I think it's quite unfair if a new guy can't get one and someone else got an avatar years ago but doesn't post.
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Re: The Will of the Senate - out of character thread II
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Originally Posted by Silver Rusher
River crossing at Massilia? More Gauls no doubt. If they weren't Gauls then this is serious.
More Gauls, don't worry, we didn't lose a signle trooper and killed over 400 of them.
I will leave the distribution of avatars to econ21's digression.
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Re: The Will of the Senate - out of character thread II
OOops!
Apperantly, I don't have the needed space on my PC (Am back home :D ) to make 2 copies of RTW. So, where is that mod switcher tool that I can use?
Thanks.
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Re: The Will of the Senate - out of character thread II
I believe the mod swapper is here, but I've never used it:
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=34559
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Re: The Will of the Senate - out of character thread II
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Originally Posted by econ21
As the Republic grows, I think we can find more opportunities for Apollonia type missions and hence more chances for Lower House members to get some of the action. Looking at the history of Rome, they often did seem to have their fingers in many different pies. In one RTR Rome campaign, I sent a spoiling expedition to Asia Minor as the Seleucids were getting to strong. Campaigning that far from home, with huge disloyal settlements, was challenging. We could also think of idiosyncratic missions - an expedition to the Crimea to recruit Samartian auxiliaries, for example. Or a march down the silk road to control the trade there etc. I like DDWs idea of getting into entangling alliances to justify such interventions, although we may have to bite the bullet in terms of what we have to pay to get alliances.
Man, I would love to randomly send an army to conquer some ridiculously out of the way place. Maybe both of the Crimean settlements or even all of Britain before Gaul has been controlled. It would be very fun, challenging, and risking failure and death. I can't imagine how anyone could possibly get the authority to get that passed in the Senate though.
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Re: The Will of the Senate - out of character thread II
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Man, I would love to randomly send an army to conquer some ridiculously out of the way place. Maybe both of the Crimean settlements or even all of Britain before Gaul has been controlled. It would be very fun, challenging, and risking failure and death. I can't imagine how anyone could possibly get the authority to get that passed in the Senate though.
Rome will stand by its allies surely ? So let's go get some allies !
For Britian you will need some serious firepower, a mere legion won't do. They have 20K guys waiting on the beaches.
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Originally Posted by Death the destroyer of worlds
Rome will stand by its allies surely ? So let's go get some allies !
For Britian you will need some serious firepower, a mere legion won't do. They have 20K guys waiting on the beaches.
Nothing wrong with role-playing Varus. :surrender:
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Nothing wrong with role-playing Varus.
Do I understand you correctly, are you volunteering for a suicide mission? Well, when I'm in charge, every mission is a suicide mission! :laugh4:
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Hell, that last one almost was. 46% casualties before the Chirugeon did his work.
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Just a note that the report has been updated with the day's activities. It's merely an edit, so you could miss it.
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Re: The Will of the Senate - out of character thread II
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Man, I would love to randomly send an army to conquer some ridiculously out of the way place. Maybe both of the Crimean settlements or even all of Britain before Gaul has been controlled. It would be very fun, challenging, and risking failure and death. I can't imagine how anyone could possibly get the authority to get that passed in the Senate though.
I've got a spice merchant in my retinue, and I've been pondering how I can get the Senate to back my ambitions to control the silk road - Roman provinces all the way from Asia Minor to the Indian Ocean! :2thumbsup:
Certainly as time goes on, a Pompey Magnus here, a Julius Caeser there would make things more interesting. Maybe even a Crassus ~;)
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Re: The Will of the Senate - out of character thread II
Mission number one: Troy! Romulus is supposed to be descended from Trojans, after all. That would be great, unless of course the Selucids or Egyptians have it.
But what's wrong with starting a war here or there, eh?
:smartass2:
By the way, Tincow, you could change it from one Roman for five Greeks to SIX greeks.
And econ, in the senate deliberations topic, you just put 'will of the senate', without the 'the will of the senate' :tongue:
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Re: The Will of the Senate - out of character thread II
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I enabled RTR mod, and when I try to lunch it, it crashes after reaching the loading screen.. Any thoughts?
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Re: The Will of the Senate - out of character thread II
Did you delete the map.rwm files ?
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From where ?? From the new folder created in MODS folder, or in the original system files.
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Not sure how that mod-swapper works. Delete all the map.rwm on your computer then (use the windows search thingie), no exceptions.
When you start a new campaing a new map.rwm file will be created (a 'correct' one), so don't look suprised if it reappears.
Als turn on the show_err option when starting. As in RomeTW.exe -show_err.
EDIT : Also, move your old saves to another storage folder. RTW always loads the last save when it loads.
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Just a note to congratulate FLYdude on his First Consul reports. It is really good as a participant to be given regular updates like this - hearing about the large Macedonian army menacing us when it happens is so much better than hearing about it long after the event.
Also, good job on the battle report, TinCow. I really like how in RTR the AI can provide a good scrap. I recently went back to vanilla, playing Alexander and then Carthage, and I was shocked at how quickly the AI folds - it seems to rout within seconds of meeting your line. In RTR, it is so much more satisfying.
BTW, have we reduced the number of slingers on the Massila ford - 4 is just unsporting and against the historical armies houserule?
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Yesterday was playing my H/VH campaign and was getting ready to roll up the last full strength Gaul army. The battle was in full swing and I was wondering where the Gaul King was hiding out, when suddenly out of the woods BEHIND my lines rides the Gaul King leading about 200 heavy cavalry in full charge :viking:
I won, but I lost quite a few men :laugh4:
Sometimes, just sometimes, the AI pulls a beauty. Teach me for underestimating the AI.
By the way, anyone figure out yet how to turn your Legate with 20 years of military service into a Praetor ?
EDIT : now 2.5 slingers left at Massilia
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Also, good job on the battle report, TinCow. I really like how in RTR the AI can provide a good scrap. I recently went back to vanilla, playing Alexander and then Carthage, and I was shocked at how quickly the AI folds - it seems to rout within seconds of meeting your line. In RTR, it is so much more satisfying.
Fighting 'civilized' factions is not remotely like fighting barbarian factions. Even regular hoplites have decent armor and their tight formation and high morale make them fight nearly to the death unless you shock them into a rout. Since all enemy general seem to get a command bonus that the player doesn't, that usually means that after a long combat, you can break them by removing the general's bonus (by removing the general) and by cavalry charges. Chain routs continue to work well too.
That said, none of these will work unless the enemy has already been under prolonged pressure or are horribly outnumbered. The shock of a charge and/or general's death usually isn't enough to drop them down into a rout unless they're already a few notches down.
RTR did a great job with the battles. Even if we still win all the time, the battles are much longer.
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By the way, anyone figure out yet how to turn your Legate with 20 years of military service into a Praetor ?
Yep. Move him into a city so that he loses the Legate trait (becomes Former Legate). Then move him out onto an infantry unit. As long as he has an army banner of some kind (if he has none, a Field Army should appear after one turn) then he will become a Praetor. Keep in mind though that there are a limited number of Praetor positions. You get one Praetor for every 10 provinces (rounded up I think). If one of your guys won't acquire the trait for some reason, check to see how many territories you have and how many Praetors already exist.
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Could someone upload a picture of the world map with FoW off or tell me if Troas (should have the capital of Pergamum) is Greek/Macedonian please? If it's not called Pergamum, just look for the settlement on the other side of the Bosphorus, part of modern day Turkey. It controls the entrance to the Bosphorus from the Mediterranean.
Cheers
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Re: The Will of the Senate - out of character thread II
It's bound to be the Ptolemaic empire (Egypt).
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In Spring 264, it was controlled by Seleucia. There are no Greek or Macedonian provinces outside of the Balkans. Nearly all of Asia Minor is controlled by Seleucia with a few Ptolomaic possessions on the coasts. I can't see any differences between now and the 265 map in the Library.
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TYVM.
I guess I shouldn't propose a motion to annex it just yet, should I?
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Re: The Will of the Senate - out of character thread II
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TYVM.
I guess I shouldn't propose a motion to annex it just yet, should I?
:disappointed:
Our fleet would never get there alive :~)
Just had my entire fleet annihalated during my abortive invasion of Palma in my own campaign. Those Cartheginians are a tough nut to crack on H/VH. Luckily I managed to get my men of safely in Spain.
Thanks TinCow, finally got Tiberius Coruncanius into a Praetor, and Lucius Aemilius, while still a Legate has made it to Infantry Commander of Genius. He got himself surrounded in Spain and had to fight his way out, which really knocked up a lot of heroic victories.
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I seem to be building lots and lots of temples, it seems to be the fastest and quickest way to supress unrest. Only after I've build all the shrines do I start to build occupations and so on.
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Our fleet would never get there alive :~)
Which is great for role play purposes ~;)
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I seem to be building lots and lots of temples, it seems to be the fastest and quickest way to supress unrest. Only after I've build all the shrines do I start to build occupations and so on.
Seems like I'm not alone then. ~:)
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I looked through the historical events that occur in-game and there's not much that would give us an excuse to make some crazy expedition. It would also have to be somewhat reasonable for the people proposing it. For example, I'm sure I could come up with an in-character reason for attempting an expedition to Scandanavia or Britain, but I don't think I'd be able to stump for a Bactrian objective given my current character.
Too bad our resident insane family member doesn't post much. He could come up with all kinds of interesting things!
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The best way to create a 'reason' is for us to make as many alliances as possible. When one nation declares war we are bound to get involved and be forced to send an expeditonary force to satisy Roman honour :2thumbsup:
The Romans were always interfering in local wars. They really understood 'balance of power' and 'realpolitik'.
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That was an absolutely brilliant battle report, Tincow. I gotta think of more unusual situations to send you into.
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It seems your avatar has grown old, TinCow. ~;) You're gonna need to change your posting avatar as well I think.
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TinCow, I think you'll have to upload it yourself if you want to update the avatar, since the old ones aren't choices.
By the way, can't I give a reason? I am a gladiatoral fan after all, and some exotic re-enactments of our Trojan forebears with lousy enslaved Greeks would definitely be interesting to my character ~;)
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Very entertaining TinCow, it seems your nickname the Orater is well deserved.
By the way, is it possible to upload an avatar ? I thought I had to wait untill I posted 600 times so I could select it from the avatar library. If so, could someone please describe how it is done ?
EDIT : Also, how do you make the character sheet appear without recruitement windows covering half the traits and ancilliaries ?
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Rhyming words with Preatoria is hard.
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EDIT : Also, how do you make the character sheet appear without recruitement windows covering half the traits and ancilliaries ?
Put the guy on a ship or in a fort and then view him. When I update all of the characters in the library, I just piled them all out of their cities and build forts everywhere to save on photoshop time.
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Re: The Will of the Senate - out of character thread II
Can I be a general now? My charcater, Sextus Antio, is getting boring. I'm willing to take whatever's available.
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Re: The Will of the Senate - out of character thread II
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Can I be a general now? My charcater, Sextus Antio, is getting boring. I'm willing to take whatever's available.
OK, I'll have a look at the latest savegame and see if we've gotten any new generals. Do you want to stay in the Upper House or have you managed to install the mod?