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There will be a new consular report made today, as well as a battle report. :2thumbsup:
Sorry for the double post.
EDIT - A question too..
Seeing as how Servius has been disowned by the Aemilii, would it be possible to go into the text files and change his last name? For the sake of RP, have Servius adopt a new name in his exile from the Aemilii?
I'm an old man now, and it would be a shame to die suddenly without that last upgrade :laugh4:Quote:
Originally Posted by Lucjan
I'd recommend against changing your name, it might cause problems for the game engine, altough I think that is unlikely.
That's why I wanted to ask first. We could still rp it out on the forums though, if I decide to do it.
New battle report up!
...from the senatorial thread. Agreed, and that's not just an opinion either. I tried via RomeSAGE the past couple of days suing for peace on all fronts with different settings, and on VH campaign it's simply impossible, even with a *huge* treasury (220.000 denarii) to offer as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by DDW
The game should be on h/vh, but it's too late to change it now. It is getting interesting though.
I clicked through a 40 turns to check whether we can safely demolish royal barracks (we can). The Egyptians several times tried to sue for peace. Their price was Maronia (and a bundle of cash), which was ironic as that was the one town I needed to hold to test whether royal barracks gave us any units (it doesn't).
BTW, clicking through made me realise the limitations of the AI on the strategic offensive. It just can't handle the sea.
I could've told you that. In my own games with RTR, the first thing I do upon conquering a town is destroy any auxilia buildings. With our mods, barracks are essentially a higher level of auxilia. We can't use them at all. An easy way to see if a different factions buildings can still help you is thus: right click the building. If it still says the bonus it grants, it still works. If you look at a conquered barrack, you'll see it has nothing. If there are are Greek Auxilia buildings throughout the Republic, we should raze them to the ground ASAP, they aren't doing anything, and we recieve a tidy sum of cash with each one.Quote:
Originally Posted by econ21
There is a way to easily go to any character, whether or not you play with the banners on or off. Just right click on the Army tab at the bottom of the campaign screen, it'll open up the scroll of all the family members and such, giving information about their location and the size of their army. Just click on any of them and you'll be taken right to them. Quite convenient really. Same goes for agents.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lucjan
I know - that's how we've all been playing in this PBM. But Lucjan queried it and I had a moment of self-doubt.Quote:
Originally Posted by Glaucus
just posted a battle report but as my connection at home is sooooo slooowww at the moment (its boardband...dont ask) I can't review it to check the pics came out ok this time. will do so in the morning
Going to be a little bit of a delay on the first consular report, some unexpected developments and what not.
But at least I know for sure on those barracks.
As for the greek auxilia buildings, I'm assuming you mean cavalry stables and practice ranges, they will not be demolished because I'm going to try to make use of the majority of them by the end of this term.
Ok, images all sorted now. Will have another battle report tomorrow am.
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Braden your victories are incredible, any chance we might see some more screenshots of how you managed to get them?
Either way, keep up the good work. :2thumbsup:
Thank you but, to me, "incredible" is giving 6 full Carthage stacks the run around for 6 turns, defeating two full stacks and capturing a capital city!!
Personally, I'm just taking full advantage of my missiles - I've been using an independant group of 2 x Peltasts & 2 x Skirmishers to engage/enrage the enemy whilst the main body gets into position.
Gets the Ai really confused as it keeps wanting to deal with this "large body" of troops that keep causing casualties but also the main army facing off against it.
In the end, so far, the Ai has "coped" by sending 1 or 2 units at a time to attack the Skirmisher block.....of course, with 160 Javelins and 160 Stones being hurled at them as they close the distance they've generally not got within "skirmish" range.
...and of course last night it was a matter of dividing that skirmish block up into two wings, one firmly at the top of the hill behind the enemy lines, one down the slope from the enemy facing up at its flank whilst the bulk of my army advanced en-mass along the ridge :2thumbsup:
By the time the enemy engaged my main block it was with only two units, and one of those was severly depleted by missiles as it approached.
I'm using the Principes to hold the middle of my lines and "hold" any enemy - I was assuming that's how others were using their armies? The Principes hold (Anvil) whilst the Hastati flank and the Italian Swords envelop - light infantry being faster for this task.
I use the Italian Spearmen to support the enveloping troops so that they're not caught in the rear.
Haven't use cavalry much yet. Made an error with the Equites in the first battle and got the angle of attack on a Phalanx unit slightly wrong - caused a casualty so pulled them out sharpish - but last night (as you can see from the end figures) I got it perfectly, they hit two units and caused utter routs immediately - downhill charges, against engaged units, into flanks = bye-bye :laugh4:
...and you may notice that only ONE unit still had any missles. To me, they should have ALL expended their supply but there just wasn't the targets by the time they were in range this time.
In truth though I am spoit, what with having a full Consular army - aint I lucky!
Will try and get some battle shots for the next one but as its a siege I predict a few more casualties.
I keep thinking how few casualties I'd have if I had a Chirgeon (sp) though....:book:
Ok, I get the point, you and Numerious both with your chirurgeons! :laugh4:
I'll look into it right after your siege battle.
I'm just saying I think 600 kills to 12 casualties is pretty incredible, and some screenshots of it would be great. :2thumbsup:
Ok, well....*blush*....can't argue with that. I am being particularly careful as its not "my" campaign and troops don't "grow on trees"....but thanks.
Currently I'm at a kill ratio of 40.4 : 1....will have to see how that compares historically to our other players.
More Pics: got it, will do so. Was under the impression that Econ21 and TinCow were getting concerned with the size of threads but I'm sure there's room for at least one detailed report.
IC PM will be on its way soon BTW
The best thing to do is keep some generals in settlements with academies to breed chirurgeons and other good ancillaries. I think we are spawning enough generals nowadays to have some free for this. It's the best use of students, certainly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lucjan
In my own personal opinion I don't mind having tons of pictures in a battle report. Yes, yes it takes longer to load, but we learn more from our fellow senator's tactics with more visual aids. :2thumbsup:
...actually I think I went a little bit overboard with my last report, but heck, I liked it, so it went up!
You had some great shots in there Lucjan so don't worry about it. The carnage was pretty impressive.
Thanks. :sweatdrop:
I don't think we were concerned. Mount did raise the issue of a few pages getting rather monstrously full of images. I've now learnt that the number of posts - not their content - is they key thing: 30 posts = new page. I recommend me use many short posts in the Consular and battle report threads, as they are understandably image-heavy. A long battle could have two or posts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Braden
Lucjan,
Your battle was utter SLAUGHTER! You deserved as many pics as you needed to portray that.
BTW – posted my own latest battle report (Symrna) now, more pics though tactically a city assault is a city assault but I did something quite cunning you may be interested in.
I’m now waiting to see what happens next in Carthage!
:sweatdrop: :embarassed: Just doing my duty to Rome. But thank you! Cartago got real messy real quick, but we've finally settled the issues of Corinth and Thessaloniki, maybe Athens next turn we have to wait and see.
Consular report will be up later tonight, can't say exactly when, depends on when I get the time to spare. But it will be up later tonight. Bear in mind I'm on eastern time, so 8pm for me would be, I think 2am for those of you on GMT. :inquisitive:
EDIT - Consul Report is up, will be posting 2 battle reports some time tomorrow.
Battle report up. It's on a shiny new page.
Egads, that's the third write-up I've done today. :dizzy2:
Something is a little funny if we have indeed entered Winter 253 as the latest report states. The 10th turn should be Autumn 253. Winter 253 would be the 11th turn, and should most certainly belong to the second half-term. If you don't believe me, you can count from Summer 255, or look at the previous motion threads, each end-term voting session has been during Summer xx5, and a mid-term during Autumn xx3.
Uh oh... could the script not have been turned on for a turn or something? This might have something to do with my character having 2 "military career" counters. One is stuck at 9 years, another at 1. Does anybody here who has knowledge of manually modding that stuff know how we could get rid of the extra one? Kind of like adding or removing traits through the command line?
I noticed that. I am a little wary of trying to edit these traits - because both the 9 and 1 may refer to the same trait, there's a danger that we might delete both. I suggest first off that you fast forward a number of turns privately (just hit end turn repeatedly) and see what happens to your experience. Try to become a legate (10 years field experience; must be former tribune). If the 9 experience increments normally, I would not worry about it - you may just have missed one turn. If it does not, we have a problem. Remember you should be in the field to gain experience, so get Cornelius out of the city that Lucjan has put you in.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wonderland
On the missing turn, it sounds like the scripting may not have been skipped for a turn. Let's have the mid-term after 10 turns - if that means 11 seasons.
I'd like to congratulate everyone on the quality of their reports.
Problem is, I've had this happen to me in my own game I was playing with the same mods. I believe the lower counter moves up until a certain point, but my career will never progress. That's why I figured the only way is to eliminate one of them. If they both disappear, can't we bring it manually back and set at the appropriate amount of years? I really hope someone knows the codes for this.Quote:
Originally Posted by econ21
All I know is:
So maybe there is a "remove_trait" command? You could try searching the twcenter and the web for RTW cheat codes and console commands.Quote:
Originally Posted by TinCow
Have a look around - if you don't get anywhere, I will do some digging too.
Also try to use the consol to give yourself the legate trait. If the worst comes to the worst, you might be able to keep track of your own experience and we could give you the appropriate Roman leadership traits. Once you get to Legate (+3 command), the rest is just candy, IMO.
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Originally Posted by Death the destroyer of worlds
Great fun reading them all.
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May I be the second to second this! :laugh4: Great stuff. :2thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Death the destroyer of worlds
econ, unfortunately I can't give the Legate trait without the military counter being in it's appropriate position, tried it before. Pretty sticky situation.
And I guess:
give_trait Cornelius Saturnius MilitaryService 10
does not work? Maybe you should try contacting Marcus Camillus on the RTR forums for help? He created the Roman leadership traits and may be able to help with the syntax of the command. Inspecting the VnV txt file for the trait name might also be informative.
Woops! Sorry about panicing everybody, my attention was divided and I guess I missed that in my revising.
It is spring, not winter. I'll go fix it now. So we still have two turns until midterm. Those screenies were taken this season, and there's no snow, so it can't possibly be winter. ~;)
EDIT - posted 2 new battle reports.
It is possible to remove incorrect traits. TinCow has done this repeatedly. I of course lost the correct link, but the commands are listed in on of the OOC-threads.
EDIT : Found it
Removes any "Former _____" trait:
give_trait "CHARACTER NAME" "Former_Military_Service" 0
Removes all Military Service if the starting amount is 9 years or less:
give_trait "CHARACTER NAME" "Military_Service_Years_1to9" 0
Here's the link to Spartan's Trait guide.
p.s. You need to use the original character name for this to work, so not Tiberius the Victor, but Tiberius Coruncanius. To enter these commands, press '~' on the world campaign map screen to bring up the console.
econ21, it might be handy to add this and the give trait commands to the FAQ.
Good work, DDW! :2thumbsup:
Wonderland - why don't you play around with the above commands on your own save? When you are happy you have cracked it (fast forward a few turns to make sure you can be a legate etc), can you post the exact commands here and Lucjan can use them?
It would be good to have the final commands here, as then I will put them in the FAQ as DDW suggests, in case this comes up again.
If you have problems, DDW or I can play around with it for you.
Just a question - when fighting a battle must I exit out of the screen in order to click on a city in order to activate 4TPY? Because I've done that a couple of times now and I don't want Marcellus getting "Hesitant Attacker."
Thanks.
I never do. Probably should though... then we could just delete the trait if you get it.
No, don't do that. All you need to do is fight the battle, save and send it back. Exiting out of the screen first only complicates things. Especially during an ai turn, exiting out of the screen then causes big headaches.
Teehee, you lil' devils you.Quote:
Originally Posted by econ21
Excellent stuff though, gonna' go try it out right now. Be back with an update.
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Yahoo, baby! Tried it out a couple of ways and found it. Thanks you so much DDW and econ! Really appreciate the help. Here's how to do it, correct order for it to work properly. Lucjan can take it from here ~:) .
give_trait "Cornelius Saturninus" "Former_Military_Service" 0
takes out the erroneous former legate trait which I have without 10 years service
give_trait "Cornelius Saturninus" "Military_Service_Years_1to9" 0
takes out the extra 1 year military service trait, leaves the correct 9
give_trait "Cornelius Saturninus" "Tribune" 1
gives tribune trait, without which the 9 year trait doesn't increase and won't work
So yeah, after that, I believe it took one or two turns to get to the 10 year mark. Then have to be stationed in a city again (argh) for 2 turns I think, and back in the field with Roman troops and boom, I'm promoted baby.
I was watching HBO's Rome earlier this week (rented the DVDs and so far they're excellent), and it made me think a bit. A tribune, for those who don't know, is an officer elected by the plebs, to check and balance the power of the seante. A tribune could veto any motion that was proposed in the senate. The Tribune's veto was a powerful thing, and I have thought of a way, if you're at all interested, to replicate a Tribune in our PBeM.
Each 'term' there are two senate sessions, one in which the consul is elected and legislation passed, the other just legislation is passed. I thought it would be fun and realistic to have anyone who wants to stand for "People's Tribune" speak up at the mid term session, so we elect them then. Their term would overlap with the consular one, so that we never have a Tribune and Consul election at the same time. So the Tribune's term would last the same amount of time as the consul's, but not at the same time. Therefore the Tribune would be in office for 2 sessions, the one he is elected during and the one where we elect the consul. I think he should be allowed to veto 1(one) motion at each session. This would add a whole new element, and I understand if we don't want to add in the middle of the campaign, but it would make the PBeM so much deeper, more fun, and more realistic.
It is a good idea, and one most certainly open for discussion.
But the difficult part is that we don't really have a plebs, so the tribune would be elected by members of the senate, essentially meaning the senate would never elect a potential difficult tribune - which kind of negates the whole effect of a Tribune.
Maybe, however, we could let the consul select a tribune, Maybe from within his own family? To, well, keep the senate in check and veto any consul restricting actions the senate may wish to impose on him.
The Former would also increase the influence of the families and enhance it's importance in this PBM. Something which I think could be ''exploited'' a bit more, would make for some interesting Role playing. And it would spice up the debates.
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Pah! - change of subject - I now have no phone OR internet at home :furious3:
At least I've got this, copy save file to floppy disc and take home from work thing sorted.
Sounds like I've got an "interesting" battle ahead of me too......
I very much like the idea of having a Tribune with overlapping term of office. And however ahistorical it is, I like the idea of the Senate electing this office in the same way the Consul is currently elected. This would give some great energy to midterm elections, especially if the office of Tribune were loaded up with both legislative and other abilities (like the ability to execute, hahaha!)
edit: also this makes me wonder, if we had more people, could we set up regional governors and the like?
Question: I'm wondering about recruitment.
There are a few friends of mine who are very much into Roman history & politics and would be thrilled to join in here. However, they would have absolutely no interest in the Total War part of the game.
Is it OK to invite people who have no interest in RTW to join the Senate part of the game here?
We could also, say, restrict the office of tribune to those who's characters have x points in ...say...management. To make the office somewhat more special than ''just another role''.
PS: Tamur, now I'm not the one to decide on the issue you put forward, but I'd say the more the merrier. However, a certain understanding of the game (ie Rome) might be welcome. But as said, this is not my call.
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I think if we put any restricitions, it should be for influence. Lower house members tend to have more command stars due to their constant battles. Upper house senators tend to have more managment due to their governing all the time. Influence is more 'neutral', and I think more accurate. To veto a motion, you don't need to be good at managing, but influence.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dutch_guy
P.S. Does anyone know when to expect the Marian Reforms?
The Marian Reforms certainly are taking their jolly good time...
Don't they simply require an Imperial Palace (highest tier govermental building) and the highest tier Barracks building ?
I remember playing a Roman RTRPE campaign a while back, and me getting the Marian Reforms after a mere seven years or so. I had them quite a while at this stage of our current PBM...
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Several interesting ideas - here's my :2cents:
On the Tribune idea - why not propose it as a constitutional ammendment in the next Senate session? It will require a 2/3 majority to pass. I suggest the following simple wording:
This House creates the office of the People's Tribune.
(a) The Tribune will be elected every mid-term session of Senate for a five year term.
(b) The Tribune will have the power to veto any Senate motion in the mid-term he is elected and the following end-of-term session. But he cannot veto constitutional ammendments.
I would not be opposed to it - it would be very simply to operationalise and adds a little spice to the campaign.
On other people joining the PBM in the Upper House - that's fine; we are short of them.
On provincial governors etc - I think the idea is workable, but it is up to the First Consul. If I ever ran again, it would be part of my manifesto.
On the Marian reforms - we need an Imperial Palace in Italy but not Rome. The consensus before was not to push for them and let them happen naturally. The pre-Marian units are more varied and less powerful. That said, I am not wholly convinced by our current policy of not enslaving. Add a governor to Capua and ....
I don't know, the concept of veto-ing any motion seems like a double edged sword. It's to abuseable, and I can't really agree with it.
As far as regional governors go, I proposed the idea a long time ago, and it was determined back then that because of the extra strain it would put on the consul organisationally, it would be up to each individual consul on how to deal with that.
EDIT - Our current practice of no enslavement is due to such vast enslavements from Cartago and the east that Capua, Paestum, Ancona, Arretium, Ariminum and Bononia (I think bononia) all went up to the next government level, and we don't have the cash to build their next palace structures yet.
I think the Tribune idea is interesting, but would drive the first consul nuts, so I am against it.
Tamur, sure you can invite people who are not interested in RTW to join the upper house, but I don't really see the point.
I agree with econ21 on growing Capua. More people in city with tax on high = more income.
The Marian reforms should happen when we have two imperial palaces in Italy, or one imperial palace outside of Italy, if I recall correctly that is. But I recommend postponing it as with these difficulty settings it would be ludicrous. Each of the post-marian units is equal to a unit of principes, maybe better.
DDW, I think it's your turn for the "meeting." :2thumbsup:
Thats why I think the Tribune should only be allowed one veto per session. And just to clarify, he should exercise his power after we are done voting, so he doesn't waste his precious veto on a motion so ludicrous it isn't even passed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Death the destroyer of worlds
My mistake, I tought it was your turn :laugh4:Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
I could live with one veto per session, but I can already think of several ways to bypass his veto power.
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Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
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Originally Posted by DDW
Peoples Tribune – Sounds like a decent idea but in the main rules it was proposed that we have TWO Consuls after a certain stage. I think we’ve nearly reached that stage but potentially are we going to have enough candidates for that?
I mention it as I see the tasks of Peoples Tribune and Co-Consul nearly the same. The main exception is that the Tribune wouldn’t be actively playing the campaign beyond battles.
So, perhaps the choice before us is:
Do we push for two Consuls or
One Consul + a Peoples Tribune
Personally, I’m willing to present myself forward for either position at this time. I still retain that I can’t run for “Full” Consul as I’m too young – Lucjan’s appointment being an exception to the rule and not a change in the rules – but as a Co-Consul…….and certainly it would be ok for a Peoples Tribune.
Don't worry Econ.
Marcellus (funny how I feel more compelled to refer to you as that than generalhankerchief), DDW and I are putting together a little in-character report to put some extra emphasis on rp. :2thumbsup:
EDIT - Trying to sort some confusion out with Braden's save file..as soon as I hear from him again and find out what happened we should be (pending my double-check that everything has been done and I haven't forgotten anything this season) progressing to autumn 253, upon the completion of which, the midterm report will be posted and the motions will be open.
Guys,
Sorry for the confusion. Hands up, it’s entirely my fault! :shame:
I’ve posted the wrong save file across to the PBeM. I’ve played the correct one (dagnabbit! I played the correct battle!) but saved the wrong one to floppy. :oops:
Will look and post the correct file tonight as my internet (and phone) is working again.
In Extremus……if I have to re-fight the battle I will as I doubt the result will be any different. :wall:
Ok, panic over.
Correct save file uploaded: http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/...m-Manius-1.zip
Again, sorry about my FUBAR :dizzy2:
No big deal, it's all sorted out.
This abandoning of Viberi sounds uncannily similar to Chiang Kai-Shek's abandoning of Manchuria. That, I believe, lost him much support from the people...
Manchuria, full of vast resources and a clearly stupid move to abandon, is quite a bit different from the abandoment of Viberi, where moving from fort to fort took 2 seasons in some cases, there are less than 600 people there, we were incapable of obtaining the desired defensive border due to Iberia's stubborness, and the town is so incredibly underdeveloped that the loss won't even be noticed.
It's quite a different situation can be seen. Manchuria being so important that without it Japan, in ww2, would have never been able to accomplish what it had, and Viberi being, well, kind of like the UK going to war with Argentine over the Falklands, while it's still a part of both nations cultures, it served little to no purpose other than political, and cost an unnecessary number of lives on both sides. As well as giving the Brits a nice surprise when they started taking fire from missile weaponry they didn't know Argentina actually posessed.
Trying to stubbornly defend Viberi against the Iberians would kind of make us like the Argentines trying to defend against Britain, we might give them a bit of a scare at first, but they'll win in the end, if not solely because it'll take us 6 or more seasons to get reinforcements there, and the mercs available are minimal and worthless compared to what the Iberians can already field.
Yeah, but the prospect is exciting!
The Iberians will attack the fort though. War is inevitable if it's just abandoned. We should defend the fort until it disappears.
Yup, I can’t see the AI passing up the chance of attacking and making war on us whatever we do. However, do we intentionally make it harder for ourselves or easier?
If we attack the small Iberian force near the fort, declaring war, it’ll withdraw certainly. What is uncertain is what the full stack Iberian army will do then…..move North, ignoring our lands or take the opportunity to advance on us and engage our small(ish) force in battle.
If it does then we’ve made the game just that bit harder and, frankly, more interesting.
If we withdraw as proposed by Lucjan then we have a few other options. The Ai will continue with its intended plan and just march north against the Ai Germans.
The Viberi could rebel and cause a CTD – has happened before in Asia-Minor.
Or, the Ai will attack South anyway.
Personally, I’d like to see us make a “heroic stand” against the Iberian Ai but that’s not exclusively my choice.
Also, from a RP point of view I see plenty of opportunity for me to “politic”, weakening potential rivals and strengthening my own characters position in the Senate.
I don't think Viberi rebelling will cause a CTD as in Asia Minor. In my previous experience, it was only a few select cities in Asia Minor that actually caused problems. Maybe we can try playing ahead to see who Viberi rebels to? I'll post an update if I get to it before anyone else.
By the way, on the veto things. Since I am the only (kind of) regular member from China, I could hold the veto of the Communists. ~:)
Mkay, tried it out and Viberi rebels to the rebel faction, Helvetti Rebels, no CTD. We just have to make sure Iberia doesn't attack in the two turns it takes to rebel on Very High tax setting by keeping the legion nearby or something. The border afterwards on the camp map looks pretty good, and Viberi was a bit out of the way I suppose. Long as Ibs don't attack, it's all good.
I'm back now and am again available for battles. It will take me some time to read through the threads, but I'll get there eventually. I've also got a ton of pictures of Roman ruins from the south of France which I thought you guys might enjoy. I would be lying if I didn't think of this forum a great deal while in Nimes, Arles and Orange!
The camera is currently downloading about 800mbs worth of pictures, but here's one that's already copied over:
https://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b...w/IMG_1272.jpg
I will probably make a thread for my Roman photos in the history forum, but I'll post a link to it in here when I do.
Lets hear a "YAY!" for the return of TinCow :2thumbsup:
....btw you've got LOADS of catching up to do, not least in the Library :book:
Welcome back.
Welcome back mate, you've been missed, and Augustus Verginius has been sorely missed in the Senate. You return is like that of Commander Adama to the bridge of the Battlestar Galactica after he had been shot & Colonel Tigh made a mess of things :2thumbsup: (I watched that episode today ~;) )Quote:
Originally Posted by TinCow
Look forward to those piccies ~:)
I'm not sure that's entirely fair to the current Consul. :inquisitive:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mount Suribachi
Lucjan's Afrika campaign reminds me instead of when Starbuck crash lands on a barren planet and works out how to fly the cylon raider.
But anyway, welcome back, TinCow. :bow:
You may soon see some action in Gaul if Mount's BSG analogy turns out to be more accurate than mine. :sweatdrop:
Welcome back TinCow, your presence on the senate floor was missed.
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Oh, well thank you much mount suribachi, glad to see how much of a mess of things I've made. :furious3:
hehehe
Is it always this exciting in the Senate? Ever since I got here there's been endless wrangling, just like the real thing. What fun! ~:)
Not quite, just to your north you can recruit recruit German mercenaries who are seriously nasty, almost the equal of principes. I'm at war with a very powerful Germany in my own H/VH game and seriously feeling the pain :laugh4:Quote:
Originally Posted by Lucjan
TinCow, welcome back ! I've some stunning pictures from my Rome vacation, but I've yet to find the time (if ever) to convert them from tiff to jpg.
For everyone's info, if Viberi rebels it will go to the rebels.
Those mercs are in german lands, Noricum Superior only offers some cavalry at the moment.
Good to have you back TinCow, trip sounds pretty cool.
Oh, indeed, the fun never stops ~;) .Quote:
Originally Posted by Tamur