I'm not sure if I should laugh it off or take you seriously.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kagemusha
Are you telling the truth:inquisitive: don't lie to the smiley
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I'm not sure if I should laugh it off or take you seriously.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kagemusha
Are you telling the truth:inquisitive: don't lie to the smiley
But Csar my friend are you now talking about lying about my innocence,drunkness or use of smileys? There are so many possibilities that its making me dizzy.:2thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Csar
Theres no chance of catching the mafia the first round, so might as well vote for someone who wants to be lynched.
Vote:Kagemusha
Why not all three?:inquisitive:Quote:
Originally Posted by Kagemusha
P.S. Don't lie to the smiley
Destroyer of Hope Now here is a guy who can respect wishes of poor old Kage.:bow:
Edit : Csar my friend now i have to saddly inform that its time for me to pass out. I will continue monitoring the situation once i wake up again.~:cheers:
Drunk, definitely.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kagemusha
lol! I've made myself suspicious even before the first murders..:laugh4: I did better in SR's game..
well indeed sasaki it's the same here again: most people bandwagoning on your suspicions..
Vote: Sasaki Kojiro
why? well.. I want to survive. I don't really think you're a mafioso, but the chance is bigger that you are than that I am... since I'm innocent.:balloon2: :P and you've gotten a couple of votes already too so it's my best shot.
It's doubtful Kage is mafia, therefore it's a waste to lynch him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Destroyer of Hope
@Drisos-you have no defence? No answer? :shame:
Pff, only because you left game two. ~;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Cowhead418
Oh, another observation of mine:
Destroyer of Hope posted?
(no offence meant) He usually never participates in games he joins, such as mafia. I remember all he ever did was post once to join then never again in the thread. In the Will of the Senate game he's also taken up a very good avatar, ignored all PMs I sent him to play or give up the character and in the usual manner just not gone. This makes him highly suspicious IMO.
Vote: Kagemusha
Well I will obey his wishes and it stops me from having to vote on someone who doesn't want to die. ~:)
Hmm, you guys are on the roll there about the heavy metal and Chemistry thing.
Discovery is sure a candidate because of his line of study. I remember chatting with him about his study. There were a couple of others there that majored in Chemistry. If I could only remember who they were.
The killing of Silver Rusher is interesting though, maybe done by someone wanting to get back at Silver for some reason.
The write up is somewhat indicating poor English skills, with other words someone that have English as their second or third language.
I believe Silver got on the wrong foot with Ultrawar in ‘The Thing’ game.
It could be that Ultrawar want to get back at Silver for calling him a poor game-host. Or it could be a setup to frame Ultrawar by someone also noticing this.
Let’s hear what Ultrawar has to say.
Vote:Ultrawar
Vote: ICE
Doing it in solidarity with disco.
Vote: discovery1
-The osmium thing
-he didn't die first round
-Ice didn't get killed, which would have been a perfect disco frame up
:bow:
"That post could have been the kiss of death for you, Leet." That is what Silver posted just after the game started. We have to think why Silver Rusher and Tiberius were killed.
I think that Leet and Discovery are the mafia. Leet killed Silver because he made that post, and Discovery is the most likely person to know about osmium.
Notice that Leet strangely emphasizes Ice's name.
Unvote: Drisos
Vote: discovery1
You people are all aware that my major, aerospace engineering, would require me to know about LIGHT materials, not something dense.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osmium
Do you see any aerospace applications in there?Quote:
Because of the extreme toxicity of its oxide, osmium is rarely used in its pure state, and is instead often alloyed with other metals that are used in high wear applications. Osmium alloys such as osmiridium are very hard and, along with other platinum group metals, is almost entirely used in alloys employed in the tips of fountain pens, phonograph needles, instrument pivots, and electrical contacts, as they can resist wear from frequent use.
Osmium tetroxide has been used in fingerprint detection and in staining fatty tissue for microscope slides. As a strong oxidant, it cross-links lipids by fixing biological membranes in place. Futhermore, osmium atoms are extremely electron dense, making OsO4 an important stain for transmission electron microscopy (TEM) studies of a wide range of biological materials. An alloy of 90% platinum and 10% osmium (90/10) is used in surgical implants such as pacemakers and replacement pulmonary valves.
The tetroxide (and a related compound, potassium osmate) are important oxidants for chemical synthesis, despite being very poisonous.
In 1898 an Austrian chemist - Auer von Welsbach - developed the Oslamp with a filament made of osmium, which he introduced commercially in 1902. After only a few years, osmium was replaced by the more stable metal tungsten (originally known as Wolfram). Tungsten has the highest melting point of any metal, and using it in light bulbs increases the luminous efficacy and life of incandescent lamps.
The light bulb manufacturer OSRAM (founded in 1906 when three German companies; Auer-Gesellschaft, AEG and Siemens & Halske combined their lamp production facilities), derived its name from the elements of OSmium and wolfRAM.
Dragon Slayer, I keep logs so here is that conversation:
The unlucky detective is crazed rabbit, who happens to be a Chem E. Hmmmm. Edit: YOu may also want an electrical enginer, since this stuff is apparently used in electronics.Quote:
Dragonslayer: if I had played games in OUR time my wife would have I don't know...
*** Scorpi has signed off IRC (Quit: Horses seldom explode.).
The_Unlucky_Detective: showing off a lab coat? yeesh. they're all chemically stained and stinky after a couple labs, anyway
Dragonslayer: so, what are you guys studying anyway?
craziest_mother_around: there where holes that let the wearerr get to their pockets
craziest_mother_around: she thought it cool
craziest_mother_around: Aerospace Engineering
Dragonslayer: cool
Dragonslayer: finish soon?
craziest_mother_around: no
craziest_mother_around: still 2 years and a half left
craziest_mother_around: well
The_Unlucky_Detective: chemical engineering
craziest_mother_around: closer to 3
craziest_mother_around: Chem E?
craziest_mother_around: I hear that's really hard
craziest_mother_around: but also the highest paid of all engineers
craziest_mother_around: Chem E's are by the way not real engineers
Dragonslayer: 3 years left? for what grade?
craziest_mother_around: Know why?
The_Unlucky_Detective: meh, there's lots of chem, but the engineering isn't that hard to me
craziest_mother_around: under grad
The_Unlucky_Detective: not real? the heck you say?!
craziest_mother_around: It's not part of the UIUC College of Engineering
craziest_mother_around: part of Liberal Arts and Sciences
The_Unlucky_Detective: Obviously, tis the UIUC CoE that is in the wrong
craziest_mother_around: yeah
The_Unlucky_Detective: WHAT!?!?!?
The_Unlucky_Detective: lib arts and science?
craziest_mother_around: born from the chem dept
The_Unlucky_Detective: gah
Dragonslayer: what line of work do you get with chem e?
craziest_mother_around: anything apparently
craziest_mother_around: I've heard they even do electrical engineering work
Dragonslayer: farmacy?
The_Unlucky_Detective: loads of different jobs
Dragonslayer: research?
The_Unlucky_Detective: oil industry, manufacturing of certian stuff, etc.
Dragonslayer: ok
Dragonslayer: My wife is in her second year of Pharmasutical(sic) engineering..
craziest_mother_around: which is what?
Dragonslayer: I think that is what you would call it in English
Dragonslayer: I am not sure
craziest_mother_around: I have no idea what that would be.
craziest_mother_around: What does she study exactly?
Dragonslayer: You get a master and become a pharmasist
Dragonslayer: the ones that runs pharmacies
craziest_mother_around: they mix the pills?
Dragonslayer: you know making medicine
Dragonslayer: yes
craziest_mother_around: k
Dragonslayer: what do you call it in the US
craziest_mother_around: same thing apparently
craziest_mother_around: I would have called them chemists
craziest_mother_around: but apparently not
Dragonslayer: it is called farmasøyt here
Dragonslayer: you need to study 5 years to become one
The_Unlucky_Detective: well, i gots to get going to my Chem E class of all things. Cya
craziest_mother_around: 5 years may be more typical
*** The_Unlucky_Detective has signed off IRC (Quit: The_Unlucky_Detective).
craziest_mother_around: Cya
craziest_mother_around: for engineering degrees
Dragonslayer: I finished school in 2003
craziest_mother_around: yeah
craziest_mother_around: what in?
Dragonslayer: no ... it is a masters
Dragonslayer: I have a masters in IT
Interesting developement
Well Ig, it sounds logical, (even though as discovery said it does not entirely fit into his 'major'.. I still bet he knows enough about it) Though, I don't think he would've been able to supress the temptation of killing ice first round..
Sasaki, sorry, I thought the case was lost for me anyway. and in the past, defending yourself has only led to more suspicions and almost all of the time - execution. anyway..
"Reprimanding your fellow mafioso (Masy?). This kind of post has been a trend in the other mafia games, I can dig up examples if needed. The mafioso or person with a role mentions something like this indirectly and it doesn't get noticed."
"I'm willing to bet the mafia is at their most careless at the beginning of the game. I believe that was a slip up by Drisos.
Masy's posting time/Kill posting delay is also worth looking at in the future."
Well... what should I say? It's not true? hmmm that won't help. hmmm I'm quite a perfectionist. if I was mafia I would definitely take more care of my posts.. make sure there's nothing different then normal, and nothing suspicious at all. I was just trying to do something positive for the townspeople for once (after continously voting wrong in Mafia III and the godfather) and do more 'searching' less 'bandwagoning'. I figured that at least one of the mafia had been among the people that hadn't been online yet since the beginning. however sadly 'something came up' (that'll make me more suspicious lol) and I couldn't find the time to check the people's profiles. looking through the posting times Masy seems indeed suspicious though.
I don't think this'll help. And I'll probably be executed.
So to the people that wish to take close look on the game and really do the investigating work (Silver Rusher, Sasaki, more?...) - I was not guilty! Of course, I can't do nothing to prove it, sadly. But keep it in mind... I was not mafia. That knowledge might one day help in solving who are mafia.
Good luck, townspeople. I'm truly sorry for my big mistake so early on... (making myself look suspicious and getting myself executed for it)
:skull:
You're still the craziest mother around?
Sigurd: english as a 2nd or 3rd language is common here, and doesn't necessarily indicate bad english. English isn't exactly my first language, but I'd willingly bet that mine is far better than many native Englishmen.
I think that voting for Disco on the basis of the osmium thing is a really bad idea. Given that he has been killed at the beginning of the past two games, I imagine that if he were mafia in this one, he wouldn't be in a great rush to go throwing out clues which would seem to lead back to him. In fact, if the Mafia aren't completely stupid, I think it's safe to take that as a red herring.
So far the arguement I've found the most convincing has been Sasaki's, but I'm loath to simply jump on one of his bandwagons again, as last game he turned out to be the mafia mastermind, and lead me a merry dance, culminating in engineering my lynching due to my lack of participation. Nevertheless, there's never anything to go on in the first round anyway, so I provisionally Vote: Drisos. This may change, but I wanted to have a vote in place in case I couldn't get back in time for the end of the window.
Unvote:Drisos
That's good enough for me.
Vote:Destroyer of Hope
Tiberius is right, you haven't participated in the last few games, how come you post now?
Voting for Kagemusha is an easy out. Very safe.
I don't buy disco, as he points out Crazed Rabbit is a more likely candidate using the weak logic that he has been accused with.
I'd also like to know what Masy has to say.
Heh, no bro, I just live in the state of Michigan. I went to LTU, a college most people probably haven't heard of.Quote:
Originally Posted by discovery1
Anyway, that argument about somehow not knowing about osmium because you're an aerospace engineer sounds hollow. In fact it sounds rather like one of the arguments I tried (unsuccessfully) to make in Mafia III - giving out personal information in an attempt to provide an alibi.
Sasaki, I realize this argument is rather weak, but it still somehow seems better than voting for Drisos.
Hey, no worries. What we need to avoid is the pattern from previous games, with one reason being supplied and everyone voting based on that, and that person not defending themselves because "that makes them seem overly defensive". I'm glad you started something on disco, adds more depth to this round. We're on 7 pages already.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kommodus
Unvote: Sasaki Kojiro
Seems like I still have a chance of living - lol! that'd be the first time someone defends himself and he survives? :balloon2: ~:)
hmmm I don't really know who to vote elseway... going with Disco or Crazed Rabbit doesn't feel right either.. basically the only one that did anything that seemed suspicious to me is Masy. gah! but that'd be 'going with' Sasaki again... hmmm.
* reads last line of posts again...*
Vote: Csar
Not much to go on - He's giving quite weird commentary.. It makes me suspicious.
Wow, page seven already. When I went to bed the kills weren't even up yet.
So, Disco seems to be the prime suspect because of his liking for chemistry. And Drisos seems to get bandwagoned because of some remarks - probably casual ones - that he made before the game started. Ok, well nothing stunning, the usual first-lynch randomness. Nothing special in that regard.
Anyhow, Silver and Tiberius were killed. Silver's house was demolished and he himself was killed quite thoroughly. The Killer took his time with him. Why would someone do that ? Well, maybe Silver killed his tormentor last game, in Sasaki's one, and was killed because of that ?
Tiberius' death seems pretty random, can't get any clues out of that one. Water ? Osmium ?
Everyone could have quick-googled ''heaviest metal'' and found that one, so I say we shouldn't put our money on such a clue. Which was put in the kill solely so that we would frame someone for it. Think about it.
Also, Sasaki, I know we shouldn't let other games influence this one, but don't think your seemingly selfless efforts in this game 'll guarantee your survival.
:balloon2:
This is a intresting theory. It could be three things:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sigurd Fafnesbane
A)Me framing myself
B)Someone framing me
C)Me framing myself but being a mafiaso which would be dangerous for me to do as I would be a mafiaso but would hope that no-one picked up on it.
If I killed Silver Rusher, the Thing Game would have nothing to do with the killing.
It's just a shame I wasn't there when he was killed
Vote:Destroyer of Hope
I'm going to agree with Disco. What kind of name is 'Michigan' anyway?
Vote: Ice
Pfft, a lousy frame attempt on me if it is even one. I would've used white phosphorous and a tank of slowly draining water if I wanted a chemistry related death.
On the other hand, DoH's inconstant behavoir and easy vote for Kage are suspect.
Vote: Destroyer of Hope
Sasaki, I wouldn't jump on Drisos too much for not mounting a 'defense'- the evidence against him is very circumstantial and flimsy.
Crazed Rabbit
Hmm hmm hmm
Interesting developments. I've added a couple of names to my personal 'probably innocent/suspicious/no idea' list.
Personally I find Kage's behavior very odd. There have been a bit of meaningless friendly sparring in this thread (Are you a Mafioso then?/He's from Michigan!) and like I said, that's all fairly meaningless. But Kage leapt into one of his own, insisting he's the mafia and wants to be lynched. A lot of people have seemingly dismissed him because of that.
It would seem a big risk to take as a mafioso, but one that is likely to pay off. The 'I haven't been lynched yet' is a good excuse not to commit suicide, and diverts attention (by joking) away from him. I find it all very suspicious.
Drisos' defence felt fairly resigned and also genuine. Either he's engineered that post very well, or he's innocent. I'm tending towards innocent (for now :evilgrin:).
I think the Osmium is a false lead. I think someone has clearly gone out of their way to include it. Even a ChemEng wouldn't use Osmium in a mafia game. I think the more we ignore that bit of the post, the better. Though it does mean (in my oppinion) that someone in the mafia is deliberately trying to throw us, which isn't going to make things easy.
I also think that Ultra's language (I base this oppinion entirely from the Thing thread) doesn't fit that of the kill post. Let's face it, the 'pound' sounds like a spell check correction, and the grammar of that post is more smooth than the grammar Ultra uses in his Thing thread (nothing personal Ultra :wink:).
To be honest, despite the strange behavior of Kage it's not enough for me to vote for him (it doesn't help his case though). Most of those who have posted long arguments have strengthened their cases in my eyes, which makes those who vote for bad reasons (those voting Ice for example) are the most suspect to me.
My Grandad once insisted to me that not voting was a vote for the extreem party, and I fear in mafia games that's all too true, but I can't find any individual high up enough on my 'suspicious' list to be worthy of a vote. So unfortunately:
UnVote:Drisos
Vote:Abstain
Kagemusha requested to be hung by the neck, which would be an odd tactic to use by the mafia so it is pointless voting for him.
Discovery and Ice voting each other every game would be a good cover for a few rounds, until one of them ends up dead, and then we can see how they change tactics.
Sasaki mentioned earlier on in the post about Drisos possibley slipping up seems a more logical vote. If the Mafia do make any mistakes, it will tend to be early on in the game, when they have a high percentage of surviving, and feel less inclined to think before they post. Therefore my vote goes to Drisos.
Hmm, well. I must say that I do get a genuine feeling from Drisos's post. However, he could just be playing us, and I really can't think of anyone else to vote for. So, my vote stands, even if I do think Drisos is innocent, as you never know, and abstaining wouldn't acheive anything.
I unvoted him when he defended himself and said as much.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit
This "lynch me" behavior has been done before and the person turned out innocent. Often came very close to being lynched. People won't forget about what he said, he'll always be a possible lynch choice.Quote:
Originally Posted by Myrddraal
I suspect he was just trying to have some fun.
I agree. It's worth examining red herrings because you can learn something from them, but to vote on it is a fallacy.Quote:
I think the Osmium is a false lead. I think someone has clearly gone out of their way to include it. Even a ChemEng wouldn't use Osmium in a mafia game. I think the more we ignore that bit of the post, the better. Though it does mean (in my oppinion) that someone in the mafia is deliberately trying to throw us, which isn't going to make things easy.
@Dutch Guy--What's selfless about my behavior? I'm having a blast.
Oh and General H (or somebody) could we pleaaaaaaaase get a vote count?
You know, I checked wiki and you're all wrong!
Osmium isn't densest. It's just one of the densest. However, it can be googled because it is widely known as the densest. I think in space though, somehow osmium is defeated by iridium.
Anyway, further reading in this article (at applications) reveals the apparent lack of chemical knowledge by the mafioso. Osmium is extremely toxic, and rarely is used in its pure form. Also, as you would naturally expect from an extremely dense metal, it is very very very hard and brittle. You could not loop it around a person's neck without it snapping. Even if by some miracle you could, the toxic would probably be enough to kill them, and you wouldn't hold on. Why? BECAUSE IT'S TOXIC AND HARD! It would probably have cut the neck somehow and entered the bloodstream, or if it's potent enough even just burn right through the skin. It's also highly unlikely that someone can rip it apart when deprived of an oxygen supply.
Hence, it's probably someone trying to frame disco. However, he's an engineer who has no need of knowing the dense elements well. As he's an engineer, he'll be interested in smelly physics anyway. He probably wouldn't know this much about osmium, and so wouldn't include this detail. He'd be too busy playing DD and playing with his shrunken head to look it up as well, IMHO.
Here’s my take on the game so far:
I don’t think Drisos’ post has much significance, it seems as if me and him were put under suspicion for being the only people to make some comments at the start of the game. His comments were a bit suss, but I don’t think it’s enough to warrant a vote.
Voting on basis of osmium? I did a google search for heaviest metal and got osmium and iridium as my results. I believe these little things are just placed to keep us guessing.
As for Destroyer of Hope, I know why people would see his post as bit odd, but I understand why he’s done it; he isn’t sure of who to vote for, and doesn’t want to incur any anger, so votes for someone who seemingly wants to go (I did the same myself in SR’s Godfather, I voted for Ultrawar when he voted for himself)
Kage could be using some reverse psychology, but I don’t think a Mafioso could be that transparent. Nevertheless, he is my main lead at this point, purely for the oddness of his post (why sign up for a game and then want to leave in the first round?).
So i Vote: Kagemusha
My lord Sasaki, you couldn't have shot yourself in the foot more with this post. As the game's most active participant, I would expect you to recollect that in The Godfather, Destroyer_of_Hope voted every single round until his death. In fact, he was one of the game's most active participants himself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
Nice work Tib, that trap seemed to work very effectively.
~:smoking:
He was in The Godfather? No way.
Now that's very interesting. So it was a poorly done frame or a massively clever, pretending to be poorly done frame. Hmm, still not very useful.Quote:
ou know, I checked wiki and you're all wrong!
Osmium isn't densest. It's just one of the densest. However, it can be googled because it is widely known as the densest. I think in space though, somehow osmium is defeated by iridium.
Anyway, further reading in this article (at applications) reveals the apparent lack of chemical knowledge by the mafioso. Osmium is extremely toxic, and rarely is used in its pure form. Also, as you would naturally expect from an extremely dense metal, it is very very very hard and brittle. You could not loop it around a person's neck without it snapping. Even if by some miracle you could, the toxic would probably be enough to kill them, and you wouldn't hold on. Why? BECAUSE IT'S TOXIC AND HARD! It would probably have cut the neck somehow and entered the bloodstream, or if it's potent enough even just burn right through the skin. It's also highly unlikely that someone can rip it apart when deprived of an oxygen supply.
Hence, it's probably someone trying to frame disco. However, he's an engineer who has no need of knowing the dense elements well. As he's an engineer, he'll be interested in smelly physics anyway. He probably wouldn't know this much about osmium, and so wouldn't include this detail. He'd be too busy playing DD and playing with his shrunken head to look it up as well, IMHO.
Very interesting, Tib, I notice that Sigurd Fafnesbane and Kommodus appear to be the first to point the finger at Disco, specifically.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tiberius
Unvote: Ice
Vote: Sigurd Fafnesbane
Myrdraal, if by punctuation you mean the comma spam in most of the kill reports, that's mine. I love commas, and I'm not going to stop that anytime soon. ~:)
When attacked like that I would expect a feignt of ignorance and an attempt to quickly move on to another point like that from a mafioso.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
You know, with this incredible rate of vote changing, round one will never end and the MVFJA members (me and SR) will die old and alone.
I dismissed your charge because it has no substance. Why would I feign ignorance of Destroyers posts in the Godfather Game? It's called motive, and without one you have no case.Quote:
Originally Posted by Silver Rusher
Easy: you couldn't think of a better answer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
Errm, what? I mean originally. When I voted Destroyer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Silver Rusher
Giving the next round a victim.
...
Gah!
All I'm going to say is, don't take too much from the kill post itself. It was written by me, and the grammar errors were mine. All I did was implement the mafia's methods.
2 hours until voting ends. Tallying should be fun...
Ah that's interesting. So does that mean the mafia specified Osmium or was that your own addition?Quote:
Originally Posted by GH
Tiberius is right, Osmium would be an odd choice for an engineer. We tend to work with more common elements, or at least elements we know more about (hey, I just took what people said about Osmium for the truth, what the heck would i ever need it for ?).
This sounds more like the work of an early high schooler with a bit of a passion for science. Ultrawar was a big fan of things ending in -um in the Thing game. That makes me a bit suspicious of him. Also, in his post he doesn't deny he's mafia, just that he didn't kill Silver (doesn't matter since he would have killed Tiberius).
Unvote: Discovery1
Vote: Ultrawar
Now as for the other killing I have no clue. It's pretty elaborate, it's pretty violent, and it's totally over the top. Who hates Silver that much ?
Without revealing too much, I will say that the mafioso specified osmium.
@Tiberius-pshh
Could you possibly list who voted for who and who didn't vote when you do the tally? Would be handy.Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
Just as a note for those who didn't notice: the mafia specified osmium, which means that he would have assumed osmium was malleable and soft, which it obviously isn't being hard and brittle. I hardly think that he would have just said 'osmium'. It was specified to be a lynching. What else could he have done anyway? make an osmium sword? That would be too public for a mafia.
So, we can still know that the mafia was not knowledgable of the chemistry of osmium. Or that he was pretending not to be, which seems overly clever, and I don't think we have any chemists here who would obviously know osmium back to front anyway.
hehe indeed. If I would be mafia.. that would be very well engineered indeed. Seems like I'm even surviving the first lynch! :2thumbsup: hurray ~:)Quote:
Originally Posted by Myrddraal
Well, I'm hosting a mafia game on another forum, and just noticed someone writing totally different then he usually did. (he used proper interpunction etc, instead of his usual 'slang') So Ultrawar might just be changing his language on purpose. However, his post didn't sound 'suspicious' to me.. he's talked like that before, being innocent.Quote:
I also think that Ultra's language (I base this oppinion entirely from the Thing thread) doesn't fit that of the kill post. Let's face it, the 'pound' sounds like a spell check correction, and the grammar of that post is more smooth than the grammar Ultra uses in his Thing thread (nothing personal Ultra :wink:).
My vote for Csar stands. I could change to abstain but it won't make a difference anyway..
my.. this game is getting really, really intresting already. Shame I don't have more time to spend on it.. :embarassed:
btw I haven't even counted the votes.. still wondering if I'll survive or not.. the execution should be up anytime now.. exciting! :book:
Nice work, Tib.:2thumbsup: me too, I don't see a real reason to suspect Disco because of this. I'd sooner suspect him because he's still alive, and Ice is in the game as well. (the mafia could've made an easy frame of ice... which worked before.. was that mafia I? I don't really recall. ~:) ) but that's of course not much to go on either.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tiberius
So basically.. we have no ideas..:2thumbsup:
Your asking a little much don't you think Sasaki. Hard enough to count a couple of votes in a thread but as many as he has to it would be kinda hard.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
Disco is kinda suspicious to me and the people who are voting for Ice and of course you can never count out Ice using voting for Disco as a alibi.:book:
Unvote: Destroyer of Hope
Vote: Leet Eriksson
This is because on how suspicious Leet Eriksson is acting.
Not a very good reason Ultra. You couldn't think of anything better?:inquisitive:Quote:
Originally Posted by UltraWar
That is correct, yet is a little wrong
This is unbelievable!
5 pages in a single round of voting!?!?! Why couldn't my game have such active participation? :veryangry:
I guess it's because GH is such a popular guy. His mafia games seem to be the most fun. Good job GH :2thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Silver Rusher
I'm flattered.Quote:
Originally Posted by Csar
I've never played in your Mafia game so I wouldn't know how they are. Sorry if I offended you.:wall:Quote:
Originally Posted by Silver Rusher
He's the original with a nice, simple system. 'Tried and tested'.
The most inactive, I found, was the overly complex system that Sasaki set up. Boggled me throughout.
You also contribute a lot with your own posting, which I guess was missing in the Godfather.
Oh, OK. And no, you didn't offend me one bit. Now let's all be happy. :medievalcheers:Quote:
Originally Posted by Csar
Is Dutch Guy around? If so, just tell me who he's voting for. He has an uncanny ability to be correct. As for the rest of the arguments, I'm feeling more heat than light. I really, really don't want to take a blind stab at a vote, 'cause I know how irritating it is to have somebody vote for you for no reason. Can somebody sum up the suspects for this round? Or is that even worth it?
You're pretty much suspect Numero Uno I'm afraid.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lemur
Ok, everyone :stop:
The voting has now ended. I'm going to tally them.
See you in a week :dizzy2:
Edit: Execution will be in a new post.
True dat:2thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
We have a tie vote. I'm not going to bother writing an execution scene until someone actually gets executed.
Here's how it will work: You can only vote for Drisos or Kagemusha (or abstain). All votes are wiped. You have a little less than 24 hours.
Here is the vote tally for Session 1:
Drisos: 4 (Divine Wind, Big King Sanctaphrax, King Henry V, Byzantine Mercenary)
Kagemusha: 4 (Kagemusha, Destroyer of Hope, AggonyDuck, Masy)
discovery1: 3 (Ice, Kommodus, Ignoramus)
Ice: 2 (discovery1, Leet Eriksson)
Sasaki Kojiro: 2 (Sir Moody, Csar)
UltraWar: 2 (Sigurd Fafnesbane, doc_bean)
Destroyer of Hope: 2 (Sasaki Kojiro, Crazed Rabbit)
Csar: 1 (Drisos)
Sigurd Fafnesbane: 1 (Orb)
Leet Eriksson (UltraWar)
Abstained: 6 (Evil Maniac From Mars, Cowhead418, Reenk Roink, Lemur, Myrddraal, Dutch_guy)
Didn't vote: 2 (Zalmoxis, The Spartan)
Abstain
Bah, we have to choose between innocents?
Vote:Drisos
I'm not inclined to humor Kage's request.
Sorry, I don't have enough information to vote, and I'm not cool with executing someone at random. Since GH has stated that we may abstain I'm going to do so.
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Changed to Vote:Kage
Vote: Drisos
He seems the more guilty of the pair.
CR
PS - thanks for recording who voted for who GH- it's super useful for making a spreadsheet.
I suppose I might as well be consistent.
Vote: Drisos.
Vote: Kagemusha
Asking to be lynched has shown itself to be one of the best ways to avoid being lynched. Also, I still think Drisos is innocent.
Vote: Kage
Drisos has defended himself well enough to satisfy me... for now
Vote:Kage
More suspicious behavior, I'm more inclined towards giving him the chop than Drisos due to both their posting attitudes.
Reenkistien abstains...courteously... :bow:
Vote: Kagemusha
That was quick, I'm gone for a day and there are 5 pages of posts...
Abstain, since I didn't read absolutely every page.
i think Kagemusha asked to be lynched because he knows that (as a townsperson) that it is the best way to avoid death by mafia (they will keep him alive as he is likely to be lynched in their stead)
so im provisionally going for Drisos, i might change my mind...
Bah, it seems I'm not here for the lengthy discussions, only afterwards. Anyway, here are some comments I'd like to make:
1. BKS, a lynching will not always be in the town's interest, especially in the first few rounds when there is little to go on. We are almost certain to lynch an innocent the first round, and that helps the mafia.
2. Destroyer of Hope did vote every round until his death in the Godfather. When I was choosing him as my target I remember being surprised that he had no warnings.
3. While I don't believe that either Kage or Drisos are mafia, I think we shouldn't take a chance with Kage. Remember, in Mafia III Lemur voted for himself and survived to the end. He may very well be just having fun (and I believe this to be so), but it could be a tactic to draw away suspicion, though it is a very risky chance to take. Vote: Kagemusha
Nooooo why do people always say this. It's always in the towns best interest to chance a lynch. If we don't lynch they are going to kill innocents anyway. We have 32 peeps I believe. We can lose two each round, or we can lose 3 each round with a small chance at a mafioso.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cowhead418
Scenario 1: First three rounds we abstain. 6 innocents die.
Scanario 2: We lynch two rounds in a row. We have a 1/30 and a 1/27 chance of killing a mafioso. If we don't 6 innocents die.
Now which is better for the town? LYNCHING
Since a lynch is going to happen anyway I guess it isn't essential to vote this round, but in general it's in the towns interest to lynch.