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Evening in the Gameroom.
Chief of Police Divine Wind rolled his eyes as he was handed the tally with the votes on it. He was only a single vote away from being in a tie with Drisos. Surprisingly for a first round, however, not a single person had voted not to lynch anyone. Most of them had abstained.
"Very well," he began with a loud voice to the expectant crowd, "Those of you who didn't abstain (he rolled his eyes again) chose to lynch Drisos. As this is the case, we have brought in a special guest to deal with the execution." He pulled a dirty cloth from what looked like a large chair next to it.
"This is the electric chair." DW began, gesturing to the machine, "All we need to do is put Drisos in the chair," he grabbed Drisos and forcefully shoved him into the electric chair, "Then, we strap him in," he said, before following his own instructions, "Then, place a damp sponge on his head," he took out a kitchen sponge from a bucket of water and squeesed it, before putting it on Drisos' head, "Finally, we place electrodes on his body and pull the switch." Electrodes were clumsily placed on Drisos' head and legs, and DW pulled the switch.
Nothing happened.
"Hmm, must have forgotten something..." he said, flipping the switch back and forth frustratedly, "Maybe the electrodes went on the wrong way round." He switched the electrodes and pulled the switch. Again, nothing happened.
"You need to shave his head and legs!"
Ignoring this, DW then mused, "Perhaps the sponge isn't damp enough."
He clumsily picked up the bucket and poured it on Drisos' head, which became soaked along with his clothes and body, "There we go. Maybe I need to turn up the voltage, too." He changed the voltage from 2,000 to 5,000. "That should do it."
DW pulled the switch, and after the water vapourised Drisos' body caught fire.
"YAAAAAAAAAAAAARGGGHHH!!!" He screamed in agony and spasmed uncontrollably for a few seconds, even breaking the flimsy metal cuffs and landing on the floor. Although he died quickly, his body remained on fire for a long time afterwards, along with the chair itself which had already been reduced to a crisp.
"Woops..." DW turned around the bucket to see "Spare Diesel for Car" scribbled on the back." He flinched when he saw this.
"Err... go home everybody. Nothing to see here." DW backed away slowly, before starting to run.
Tally:
Abstain: 11 votes
Drisos: 3 votes :skull:
Divine Wind: 2 votes
GeneralHankerchief: 2 votes
Dutch_guy, theRTWGuru and Ignoramus: 1 vote each
Status List
Killed By Mafia:
Lemur
UltraWar
Lynched:
Drisos
Still alive:
Sasaki Kojiro
Masy
Big King Sanctaphrax
Csar
GeneralHankerchief
Proletariat
Don Corleone
Seamus Fernanagh
Byzantine Mercenary
Evil_Maniac From Mars
Crazed Rabbit
Ignoramus
Xiahou
Peasant Phill
Sir Moody
Cowhead418
Kommodus
Dutch_guy
Sigurd Fafnesbane
Husar
Major Robert Dump
Destroyer of Hope
theRTWGuru
Divine Wind
Myrddraal
PMs please guys.
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Now isn't that a pisser. The mafia is screwing with us... they didn't kill anybody this round, just letting us do their dirty work for them. :furious3: Poor Drisos, we hardly knew ye.... Hey, Chief, invest in some eyeglasses, huh?
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Let's see if I can explain this.
There are two seperate times in the game. One is daytime when we vote to lynch people. Second is night time when the mafia kill people and the Detectives investigate I think. Hope that helps
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Originally Posted by Don Corleone
Now isn't that a pisser. The mafia is screwing with us... they didn't kill anybody this round, just letting us do their dirty work for them. :furious3: Poor Drisos, we hardly knew ye.... Hey, Chief, invest in some eyeglasses, huh?
Alright Donny boy,
There is two phases to a day.. the night where the mafia kills - the day when the townies lynch...
Day 1:
Lemur and Ultrawar is killed during the night
Drisos is lynched during the day.
Day 2:
night is soon upon us.
[edit]:damn Csar... do you do this often?
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But quite imaginitive!
So, around this time tomorrow night is the next night phase, and we'll find out who's the next mafia kills? Okay, I got it. The 'night' and 'day' were throwing me. So each 'night' happens every other real day, with 'day' thrown in every other day, on the off day, as well?
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Originally Posted by Sigurd Fafnesbane
[edit]:damn Csar... do you do this often?
As much as I can. :beam:
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Originally Posted by Don Corleone
But quite imaginitive!
So, around this time tomorrow night is the next night phase, and we'll find out who's the next mafia kills? Okay, I got it. The 'night' and 'day' were throwing me. So each 'night' happens every other real day, with 'day' thrown in every other day, on the off day, as well?
And then there are "leap days" in which the amount of time in the day is reduced by a certain amount according to the percentage of the moon that is currently visible. Today is Wednesday, right?
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Today is Wednesday. Our next lynching will take place on Friday, and there will be mafia kills on Thursday and Saturday, if I understand the game time correctly.
Sorry mafia, guess you're not screwing with us or being lazy.
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Ok, had I remembered before leaving for work this morning I would have possibly withdrew my vote and requested everyone abstain from a lynching...sorry Divine Wind, it's just that I don't like the role of chief or really even thinks it serves a purpose, particularly if the chief is always replaced. (is it random or a vote?) Nonetheless, investigating the Chief should always be the detectives first priority, whoever he may be.
I realize this argument has been had in all the other games before, as well as this game, but lets see if I understand this:
-Last round, our chances of lynching an innocent is 22:3, including a lynch of the detective
-We will lose two innocents per round regardless, yet by lynching we guarantee we lose 3, taking into account the 22:3 curve
-I know it makes for boring play, but until we have a smaller pool of innocents, our chances of a good lynching is not increased...if we lose 2 per round our chances will go 20:3/18:3/16:3/14:3...if we lose 3 per round we will taper more quickly to the kill zone at 19:3/16:3/13:3/11:3 but we will also more quickly reach the point where the mafia have the upperhand because of their voting advantage. This, of course, is all assuming our lynchings up to that point have all been bad lynchings. In the case of a good lynching, which we wouldn't know until the next morning after the mob kills are posted, our raw chances of lynching the right person would go down, but our voting and guilt by association reasoning would give us the upperhand.
This is my first time in the game, and I'm quite confused TBH. Someone needs to hurry up and do something suspicious so I can make a lynch vote with good conscious, if there is such a thing.
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We could abstain for 3 rounds. 6 innocents would die.
or
We could vote for 2 rounds. 4 innocents would die, + 2 more would probably die, but we have the chance at hitting a mafioso.
Therefore it is to our advantage to lynch, even without taking into consideration that rounds without discussion are useless. Also, in Mafia IV we lynched a mafioso round two on the same kind of weak evidence we lynched Drisos with this game.
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Sasaki's right (oh how I hate to say that :laugh4: ) not lynching someone each round is not smart on our part. Even if we do kill some people we still have a chance of killing a mafioso or even the Godfather. I think it is best to lynch someone each round for if we don't we may end up screwed in the end which will not be good.:laugh4:
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I see that voting for oneself does not constitute suicide, otherwise Ignoramus would be dead. If he truly wants out of the game, I don't understand why he has already signed up for another mafia game in the making.
If he plans on being inactive and we lynch him, it could be viewed as a wasted lynching if we look back a week from now and see he isn't playing anymore.
On the other hand, it could be a poor attempt at a bluff
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Well, I've got several ideas running through my head... several angles I've noticed in the posts so far. I'm just curious about the correlation between 'thinking out loud' and winding up on the hitlist. My guess is relatively high. Well, so be it. It'll give you guys a peek into who the mafia may be.
I saw three trends in the first round that disturbed me:
-Proletariat and Xiahou starting that red herring theory of a revenge killing on Lemur in the first round. Both are too intelligent to really entertain such a plot that is so obvious, no Godfather would possibly entertain.
-I'm surprised that despite the tone of the discussion, bordering on equating not posting to suspicious behavior, several didn't post and several more posted a one line at best. But obviously 7 people aren't in the mafia...
-Is it just me or is Sasaki trying very hard to lead the group. To where...?
Just remember, I sleep with one eye open, one foot on the floor and one hand on the trigger of my 12 gague....:beadyeyes2:
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Originally Posted by Don Corleone
Well, I've got several ideas running through my head... several angles I've noticed in the posts so far. I'm just curious about the correlation between 'thinking out loud' and winding up on the hitlist. My guess is relatively high. Well, so be it. It'll give you guys a peek into who the mafia may be.
Well, the mafia usually leave alive the people who get voted for...you're in good shape in that regard.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Don Corleone
-Is it just me or is Sasaki trying very hard to lead the group. To where...?
To a town victory of course.
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Aside from the mafia, the detective would obviously be trying to subtley lead the town without drawing too much attention to himself. Detective seems like a high stress job.
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Originally Posted by Don Corleone
-Proletariat and Xiahou starting that red herring theory of a revenge killing on Lemur in the first round. Both are too intelligent to really entertain such a plot that is so obvious, no Godfather would possibly entertain.
If I were too 'smart' to suspect that, wouldn't I also be too smart to draw such unecessary attention to myself so early in the game?
Personally, I think you give the mafia too much credit. I believe they often target former adversaries- they probably don't see it as revenge, but rather see it as disposing of a threat.
Quote:
-Is it just me or is Sasaki trying very hard to lead the group. To where...?
He's always suspicious. I almost tend to think he should be lynched just to play it safe. :shrug:
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Sorry I missed the first few pages, I'll read them and try to get back in this game.
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Originally Posted by Don Corleone
-Proletariat and Xiahou starting that red herring theory of a revenge killing on Lemur in the first round. Both are too intelligent to really entertain such a plot that is so obvious, no Godfather would possibly entertain.
All we ever have to go on for sussing out mafiosos are from who they kill. Yeah, it's the first round, but if you look back through the other games Lemur was in, it's become almost an Org joke to harass or lynch him. It's weak, I know, but it's the first round. We gotta start somewhere.
Edit: I agree that a smart Mafioso with public beef in prior games with Lemur, wouldn't have been so ham handed, but you have to remember that we have stupid people playing too.
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Originally Posted by Don Corleone
Just remember, I sleep with one eye open, one foot on the floor and one hand on the trigger of my 12 gague....:beadyeyes2:
...Jillian's still not sleeping through the night?:laugh4:
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Originally Posted by Major Robert Dump
I realize this argument has been had in all the other games before, as well as this game, but lets see if I understand this:
-Last round, our chances of lynching an innocent is 22:3, including a lynch of the detective
-We will lose two innocents per round regardless, yet by lynching we guarantee we lose 3, taking into account the 22:3 curve
-I know it makes for boring play, but until we have a smaller pool of innocents, our chances of a good lynching is not increased...if we lose 2 per round our chances will go 20:3/18:3/16:3/14:3...if we lose 3 per round we will taper more quickly to the kill zone at 19:3/16:3/13:3/11:3 but we will also more quickly reach the point where the mafia have the upperhand because of their voting advantage. This, of course, is all assuming our lynchings up to that point have all been bad lynchings. In the case of a good lynching, which we wouldn't know until the next morning after the mob kills are posted, our raw chances of lynching the right person would go down, but our voting and guilt by association reasoning would give us the upperhand.
The basic mathematics of this are correct, lynchings do enhance the "hitting percentage" at the risk of the mafia getting to the point of no return more quickly. That's the basic tension of the game.
However, in this internet version, unless players are forced to vote -- and support and discuss same -- there is no hope of discovering the mafia save by the detective who can reveal only half as fast as the mafia can eliminate. The odds of the detective identifying all 3 mafiosi prior to getting whacked are longer than I'd like to rely on. Lynchings force commentary and voting patterns which can then be used to make targeted lynchings -- at least that's the hope.
It's also why inactives who don't vote at all get removed by the GM and why folks who don't engage in discussion can find themselves on the wrong end of a lynching.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Silver Rusher
Tally:
Abstain: 11 votes
Drisos: 3 votes :skull:
Divine Wind: 2 votes
GeneralHankerchief: 2 votes
Dutch_guy, theRTWGuru and Ignoramus: 1 vote each
Hmmm... I've got a different tally:
Drisos: 3 votes (Me, Sasaki, Crazed Rabbit)
Don C: 3 votes (Drisos, RTWGuru, Sir Moody)
Divine Wind: 2 votes (Major Robert Dump, Xiahou)
GHC: 1 vote (Peasant Phill)
Dutch Guy: 1 vote (BKS)
RTWGuru: 1 vote (Husar)
Ignoramus: 1 vote (Ignoramus)
This means there should be a re-vote based on the tie.
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My tally is off too. I had counted Byz-Knight and thought it 4 drisos from that. Silver?
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Originally Posted by Cowhead418
Hmmm... I've got a different tally:
Drisos: 3 votes (Me, Sasaki, Crazed Rabbit)
Don C: 3 votes (Drisos, RTWGuru, Sir Moody)
Divine Wind: 2 votes (Major Robert Dump, Xiahou)
GHC: 1 vote (Peasant Phill)
Dutch Guy: 1 vote (BKS)
RTWGuru: 1 vote (Husar)
Ignoramus: 1 vote (Ignoramus)
This means there should be a re-vote based on the tie.
Thanks m8! I might even survive! :2thumbsup: :yes:
I missed Don on the list as well... and he had 3 votes iirc. I claim a tie! Bring me back from the dead!:skull: :2thumbsup: :laugh4:
:book:
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Yeah, ByzKnight isn't playing. Or perhaps Silver was posting while Drisos was changing his vote.
Anyway, Don, Myrddraal mentioned the Lemurs enemies thing as well.
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R.I.P the dead. May our detective find the mafiosi quickly....
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Midnight in the Gameroom. All is quiet.
Divine Wind was busy sleeping on the couch in the police office when suddenly the roof was pulled off and the wind howled in.
"Wha... wha... what the heck?!" DW got up with a start and looked up to the sky. Before he knew it, Silver Rusher's gleaming, gold hair-covered face appeared in the clouds.
"WHO MADE THAT TALLY?!" SR's voice beamed into the house of DW.
"Err... I forget. What's wrong with it, though?"
"I WILL TELL YOU WHAT'S WRONG WITH IT! Drisos SHOULD STILL BE ALIVE, AS YOU HAVE THE SAME NUMBER OF VOTES AS HIM!"
"Aww, do I have to?"
"YES! OF COURSE YOU HAVE TO! HOW DARE YOU ASK SUCH AN INSOLENT QUESTION?"
The doorbell rang.
"Hang on, let me just get that..." DW opened the door to see a huge, angry mob of Gameroom residents standing outside. He immediately shut it and quickly spun around, with a shocked expression on his face. "Huh..huh..huhuh... Lemme just sort this out, OK God?" He opened the door again and started talking to the mob.
"Keep it down in there!"
"We have to go to work tomorrow!"
"We're trying to sleep!"
"Listen," DW yelled out to the crowd, "Drisos should not have been executed. There should be a tie vote between me and him. The tally was wrong."
A bolt of lightning hit an empty spot in the crowd, and Drisos appeared, looking dased and confused.
"Cast your votes now, people. Me or Drisos. Who are you going to lynch?"
The Correct Tally:
Abstain: 11
Divine Wind: 3
Drisos: 3
GeneralHankerchief and Don Corleone: 2 votes each
theRTWGuru and Ignoramus: 1 vote each
Note: In a tie-vote, you may abstain but you may not Vote: No Lynch. As long as you voted in the original round, however, no warning will be handed out. You may only vote for Divine Wind or Drisos, or you can abstain.
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Oh dear, I needs to sleep on this.
on second thought, since I can't edit, my vote still stands with Divine Wind. I don't like the chief of Police role as the likelihood that he could be mafia, so I'll vote the Chief no matter who it is. Sorry DW, its best to keep the untouchable Chief-thingy rotating. Of course, any detective please feel free to chime in via a PM and I may change my vote if I beleive you, either way I think I'm doomed to a horrible death...theres no reason to believe I'm not mafia, and no reason for the mafia not to kill me.
In my own defense, the selection of Drisos seemed purely numerical circumstance. The only person I don't trust is all of you. If Drisos were CP I would vote him just as well.
vote: Divine Wind
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Originally Posted by Silver Rusher
Note: In a tie-vote, you may abstain but you may not Vote: No Lynch.
Damn... we are barking up the wrong tree here.
Vote:Abstain
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Sorry haven't had enough time to go true all the posts so
Vote: Abstain
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Vote: Divine Wind
honestly i dont think either ar emafia but we have to kill someone and the rebel in me says lynching the police chief is a good thing :laugh4:
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Vote: Drisos
I don't think it's best if we rotate our chief of police, yet. We have no evidence against him, and if there ever will be I'm sure the detective will find out.
It just doens't feel right to change the CoP now, what if he's innocent and we put a mafioso on the position ?
Sorry Drisos, but this just seems best to me.
:balloon2:
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Vote: Drisos
I accept the idea that someone has to go -- but I'd like to see others commenting more. The only real purpose to an early execution -- aside from the Godfather catching the chop due to random luck -- is to generate voting records and commentary/rationale for same to produce a body of evidence.
So far, the primary reason for Divine Wind getting cross-bolted to a wall is that another Godfather in another game got picked as the police chief, so that requires us to kill our top cop immediately in this game. :inquisitive: :dizzy2: His posting behavior hasn't been outlandish, so....
Mind you, I hope a detective has done a quick exam of D.W., since he can only get whacked in a lynching, we'll need some warning if he is hinky.
The surprisingly resilient Drisos (btw, lethal injection is better, too many people don't die promptly when electrocuted!!) drew a modicum of suspicion for the style of his early discussion. This is thin evidence at best, and I was tempted to abstain for that reason, but I will support the effort to move forward.
Silver, if possible, a list of votes with names/initials at the executions would help us tally/excel chart geeks keep up. My chart still does not jibe with yours:embarassed:
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Vote: Abstain.
I'm a lot more curious about other persons.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Proletariat
All we ever have to go on for sussing out mafiosos are from who they kill. Yeah, it's the first round, but if you look back through the other games Lemur was in, it's become almost an Org joke to harass or lynch him. It's weak, I know, but it's the first round. We gotta start somewhere.
We as in you and the other two mafiosi?:inquisitive:
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Originally Posted by theRTWGuru
R.I.P the dead. May our detective find the mafiosi quickly....
Those four points actually bother me as they may mean you gotta hide something, for example your real opinion.:inquisitive:
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Originally Posted by MRD
Of course, any detective please feel free to chime in via a PM and I may change my vote if I beleive you, either way I think I'm doomed to a horrible death...theres no reason to believe I'm not mafia, and no reason for the mafia not to kill me.
Now given you were Mafia and the detective really made the mistake of PMing you?(I know I could have PMed you pretending to be the detective, but I feel like a nice guy today and it might not be kosher with Silver)
Anyway: :inquisitive:
Just a couple things I noticed.:whip:
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So Cowhead and Drisos got the count wrong, I'm not the run-off candidate?
Between the two, Drisos has contributed more to the ongoing discussion and has made more statements by which he could be called into account later. Divine Wind has made those kinds of statements that can be reconstrued later.
I've got my eye on a couple of other folks that are saying enough to actually show up as not zero in a ranking of postings, but don't actually say anything. I would much prefer to vote for one of them, but as I'm limited to one of two options:
Unvote: Abstain
Vote: Divine Wind
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Vote:Drisos
The first round is the round where the Chief of Police is least likely to be mafia. With less people there is a greater chance of him being a mafioso. If we leave the same person as CoP the detective can investigate him instead of having to investigate each new CoP.
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Originally Posted by Husar
We as in you and the other two mafiosi?:inquisitive:
Oh, for God's sake... Yes, Husar. 'We' as in myself and the other mafioso.
:dizzy2:
If it wasn't obvious to anyone else, I was referring to the villagers.
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We're giving the Detective way too much trouble if we keep killing off our cops. Let him get a good read on DW first.
Vote: Drisos
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Gah!
Well im sure your probably innocent Drisos, but I have to look after my own skin mate.
Vote: Drisos
Id just like to remind the detective to investigate me, and see im an innocent Chief of Police just trying to make a living. :yes:
If I am investigated and proved innocent, I will benefit the town as I will be one less person that can be touched by the Mafia, raising the chances of us actually lynching one of them. This will be useful at the end of the game, as i would be one less suspect. I realise the detective wont reveal im innocent for quite a few rounds, but its worth keeping me for the reason I cant actually be touched.
Something to think about I guess.
Oh and question for Silver Rusher. If I am killed can I still think up the executions? :beam:
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unvote: divine wind
vote: drisos
One vote is shaky as the other. You're right about the detective vs the CoP. We will never find out as the detective takes a day to get results.
As for me saying the detective should send PMs and possibly getting PMs from people who were posing as the detective, well thats exactly what I want, thats exactly what I would expect, and I don't see why Silver would disapprove as it adds substance and confusion to the game. I'm not mafia, but alas no one took the bait into trying to fool the nooblet
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The detective should not start pm'ing members just yet, incase he accidently pms a mafia, and would surely be executed in the next round. We need the detective to stay alive as long as possible.
This is the only way of ensuring victory for the villagers.
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Now this is weird... the choice seems to be between me and Divine Wind. I'm possibly a mafioso, but it's also possible that I'm the detective. Divine wind can have only mafioso as special role. So, basically, why on earth are you taking me down instead of him? Now I'm not the detective, but you people can't know that.
This voting for me is pretty massive... keep it in mind for the endgame, where you'll notice I was innocent and I can have a little nitpick. (with a big :P)
gah.. well I'll be dead soon, this time, really. I'm not going to speculate after the dead, after being killed twice :laugh4: no seriously, I'm busy enough.
btw nice write-up, Silver Rusher. ~;) ~:)
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Vote: Drisos.
There's not very much between them, to be honest, but voting for the CoP on the basis that GH was mafia in the last game seems like a really silly idea, so Drisos it is.
Are we allowed to reveal ourselves as the detective by PM in this game? I ask as in Kage's game it was a public reveal or not at all. I don't have a problem with private reveals, personally.
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Originally Posted by Proletariat
Oh, for God's sake... Yes, Husar. 'We' as in myself and the other mafioso.
:dizzy2:
Now you are angry because I discovered your mistake?
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Originally Posted by Proletariat
If it wasn't obvious to anyone else, I was referring to the villagers.
That's what you say now.~;)
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Originally Posted by Cowhead418
Hmmm... I've got a different tally:
Drisos: 3 votes (Me, Sasaki, Crazed Rabbit)
Don C: 3 votes (Drisos, RTWGuru, Sir Moody)
Divine Wind: 2 votes (Major Robert Dump, Xiahou)
GHC: 1 vote (Peasant Phill)
Dutch Guy: 1 vote (BKS)
RTWGuru: 1 vote (Husar)
Ignoramus: 1 vote (Ignoramus)
This means there should be a re-vote based on the tie.
Wooooah!
Hang on, is it just me or is the voting here wrong again? Should this not be between Drisos and Don? I just went back and could only see two votes for myself, so why am I up for a vote anyway?
I think youve counted it up wrong SR.
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I asked about that, Divine Wind.
On a side-note, can the mafia execute our Chief of Police?
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Originally Posted by Don Corleone
I asked about that, Divine Wind.
On a side-note, can the mafia execute our Chief of Police?
I think not, which leads me to my next point that pretending to be a noob is a pretty good Mafia cover, don't you think, Don?
And keep in mind that I am throwing around attacks, which makes me very likely to be Mafia as well, doesn't it? Now I gotta think of a defense argument against that...:help:
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Guess I'll stick with my first impression:
vote: DW
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Originally Posted by Husar
I think not, which leads me to my next point that pretending to be a noob is a pretty good Mafia cover, don't you think, Don?
And keep in mind that I am throwing around attacks, which makes me very likely to be Mafia as well, doesn't it? Now I gotta think of a defense argument against that...:help:
I thought about that. What's more, if somebody else were mafia, wouldn't it be in their best interest to keep me in the game for as long as possible, slowing down the discussion and making you all revisit logic puzzles you've solved long ago. Truthfully, I think it's nice that you strive to keep newbies in for a little extra time, but the cold hard logic is even if you're pretty sure they're not mafia, you've got to kill every newbie, cause they slow down the discussion and reduce the ability to put things in perspective. Wait, did I just make an argument for y'all to do me in? :skull:
Okay, if the mafia cannot kill the chief of police, that changes my vote (though I would really hope the chief of police would be top of the list for the detective).
Unvote: Divine Wind
Vote: Drisos
Sorry Drisos, nothing personal. Just cold hard logic.
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There's not very much between them, to be honest, but voting for the CoP on the basis that GH was mafia in the last game seems like a really sill
Indeed, it seems unlikely that the mafia would get CoP twice. I'm taking on board that it is not in the town's interest to abstain, so Vote: Drisos
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though I would really hope the chief of police would be top of the list for the detective
Yes, that is sensible. You getting this detective?
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We cannot kill the Police Chief just yet because I'm sure he's the first person the detective would investigate(hopefully). My vote goes with Drisos nothing personal.
Vote: Drisos
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Day breaks in the Gameroom.
The people had been up all night voting between Drisos and Divine Wind for which out of the two to lynch. Major Robert Dump had voted and revoted, and by the time he got home he needed to relax. So, he turned on the TV to watch the news. Of course, all of it was about the mafia. Apparently some town called Ogunquit was saved, but Vernazza, Italy, was the mafia's next target. Obviously, the Gameroom murders were also mentioned.
This annoyed MRD. He didn't like it when the news focussed too much on a single theme, as he preferred to know what was going on in other areas as well. Politics, technology, even pop culture was preferable to being constantly blasted with news about the mafia. He pressed the red button on the remote to turn it off, got out of his armchair and went into the kitchen.
"Don't turn me off!"
MRD turned around in a start. Did that TV just... talk? He pointed his remote at the TV and pressed the power button a few times, but nothing happened. The voice coming from the box chuckled.
"Oh no, it's too late now, my friend. Far, far too late."
MRD screamed, turned, and ran. But he didn't get that far. Because a Mafioso rose up from behind the TV, and put five bullets from his Walther P99 into his victim's back.
The Mafioso then plugged the TV back in and laughed. While he was leaving, he put a bullet in MRD's head just for good measure.
It was early morning, and Chief of Police Divine Wind was in a hurry. He grabbed Drisos, shoved him in the electric chair, strapped him in, shaved his head and leg, dipped the sponge in the water, squeezed it, put it on Drisos' head, put an electrode on his head and another on his leg and finally, flipped the switch at 2,000 volts. When it seemed certain that Drisos was dead, he switched it to a measly 8 amps to reduce the heat but also to keep the current flowing.
"OK, that's him dead. Now, onto more pressing matters. We have again lost a great member of our community in Major Robert Dump. He was a noble man, somewhat obsessed with hippoes but still noble nonetheless. It has been a long night, but unfortunately we must still vote again to kill someone else as we now know that he was not (solely) responsible for the murders. Please vote now. I am undecided on the next method of execution."
Tally:
Drisos: 7 votes :skull:
Divine Wind: 3 votes
2 abstained
Status List
Killed By Mafia:
Lemur
UltraWar
Major Robert Dump
Lynched:
Drisos :skull:
Still alive:
Sasaki Kojiro
Masy
Big King Sanctaphrax
Csar
GeneralHankerchief
Proletariat
Don Corleone
Seamus Fernanagh
Byzantine Mercenary
Evil_Maniac From Mars
Crazed Rabbit
Ignoramus
Xiahou
Peasant Phill
Sir Moody
Cowhead418
Kommodus
Dutch_guy
Sigurd Fafnesbane
Husar
Destroyer of Hope
theRTWGuru
Divine Wind
Myrddraal
Quick Note: Divine Wind, you need to PM me during the night telling me what the method of execution will be. I only told you to do it during the day last time because I didn't want to PM you during the night. I will let you off this time, though. Just PM me during the day today and in the night for the rest of your life in game.
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Wait I'm confused here MRD was killed by the mafia?
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I'm confused as all hell. Did MRD just die or not? He's described as being lost in the game story, but he's listed as still alive (Lemur and UltraWar are the only two mafia kills thus far.).
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Byz?!? Robert Dump!?! Help?!!
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Apparently ByzantineMercenary and MRD were killed.
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Right, Major Robert Dump said a few things that might have got him killed:
He questioned Ignoramus. I doubt this is Ignoramus taking revenge (unless this is some kind of crazy double double bluff), but rather is a lazy attempt to frame him.
He said some important statistical stuff, which could have scared a mafia into thinking he was too smart to leave alive.
Thoughts?
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Aside from the mafia, the detective would obviously be trying to subtley lead the town without drawing too much attention to himself. Detective seems like a high stress job.
Posts like this are what got him killed. At this stage the Mafia will jump at any clue to kill the detective.
Ignoramus's vote for self I find mildly suspicious.
But I'm going to Vote:Kommodus because he would be a likely candidate for chosen mafioso.
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I believe we need some divine clarification; who's dead?
I'm terribley confused.
Crazed Rabbit
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believe we need some divine clarification;
Can't give you that, but i believe MRD is dead, and possibly Byzantine Mercenary
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Ah, b******s, I completely screwed that one up...
Forget everything you saw previously. It's all in order now.
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Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
Posts like this are what got him killed. At this stage the Mafia will jump at any clue to kill the detective.
Ignoramus's vote for self I find mildly suspicious.
But I'm going to Vote:Kommodus because he would be a likely candidate for chosen mafioso.
Damn you Sasaki for stealing my show.
I am not going to elaborate too much, but Kommodus is the Godfather.
He did one mistake very early in the game and I am calling him on it.
Vote:Kommodus
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What?
Please, could someone post in bullet point form, who died this round?
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So apparently the mafia were going to kill Byz and MRD but decided to pretend Drisos was mafia? Or was Drisos mafia and Silver messed it up by putting in both kills?
Doesn't matter, we won't be complacent and won't conclude anything either way. If the mafia want to kill only one person the rest of the game, more fool them, if we got a mafioso, then yay for us.
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What?
Please, could someone post in bullet point form, who died this round?
Read the post. I changed the very numerous mistakes.
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Right. One towns-person dead this round. Seems the mafia are going for the 'one-kill-a-round-policy-lets-keep-them-guessing'.
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He did one mistake very early in the game and I am calling him on it.
What was that?
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Originally Posted by Myrddraal
What?
Please, could someone post in bullet point form, who died this round?
- MRD (killed)
- Drisos (lynched)
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Then why does it say that "he put a bullet in Byz' head just for good measure?"
Something's definitely up. In the meantime: Sigurd, why Kommodus?
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one-kill-a-round-policy-lets-keep-them-guessing
It must be that. I seriously doubt we got a mafia first round, that would just be too wierd, besides, the last Godfather game probably inspired this.
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Originally Posted by Kommodus' 1st post
Alright, I'll play.
However, I probably won't be able to participate fully until the end of Cosa Nuova, which is where much of my online time is going. So you probably shouldn't expect any brilliant new mafia-hunting ideas from me.
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Vote: Abstain
Wow, I've never done that before. It feels... odd.
I'll have to come back and look over these posts more when I have more time. It shouldn't be too long, I hope.
I'm not seeing it Sigurd. The old "I'm too busy for the game so I won't be posting much" ploy is suspicious but I don't see how that points to Godfather. Still your show.
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I wan't to hear Kommodus' defence before I continue
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I'm not seeing it Sigurd. The old "I'm too busy for the game so I won't be posting much" ploy is suspicious but I don't see how that points to Godfather. Still your show.
May not be a ploy. However, if it continues past the post-mortem (:laugh4: ) write-up on Casa Nouva, then the suspicion will deepen. And we should be seeing that posted relatively soon I would think.
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I wan't to hear Kommodus' defence before I continue
Fair enough.
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I wan't to hear Kommodus' defence before I continue
Defence to what? You haven't actually given him something to defend, just that he is the godfather...
What did he say early on that triggered your suspicion?
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Was Drisos mafia? Unlikely.
So the mafia may be trying the ole one kill a round thing, to make Drisos look like mafia and make his accusers look innocent.
Also, Sigurd, why Kommodus? He can't defend himself against unknnown charges.
Crazed Rabbit
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Originally Posted by Sigurd Fafnesbane
I wan't to hear Kommodus' defence before I continue
On a different note, didn't Kommodus have a brilliant technique to flush out the mafioso ? He used it last game and flushed out Masy and Discovery in...what...3 rounds ?
So why isn't he using this now ?
:balloon2:
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So why isn't he using this now
Good point. Discovery was lynched through luck, so I am doubtful of this fantastical method. Perhaps he got me through sheer luck, or he does have a method. Who knows? Kommodus?
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Also, Sigurd, why Kommodus?
Ditto
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Vote: Abstain
For now, that is...