Happy Christmas to all!
It's unlikely I'll get orders posted at all tomorrow, Tuesday we'll be back to the grind. :whip: :2thumbsup:
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Happy Christmas to all!
It's unlikely I'll get orders posted at all tomorrow, Tuesday we'll be back to the grind. :whip: :2thumbsup:
I can't be certain as to whether or not I'll have time to order anything today, after all, it's christmas, and Merry Christmas to everybody in that respect! But let's postpone this for today.
Right everyone I'm back. I guess no-one is writing up a battle report till the whole thing is done, right?
Gives me chance to do my battle report with teh Carthies then ~:)
Welcome back, Mount. I now have the Senate orders for turn 6; just waiting for Lucjan.
Hi guys! I'm back and ready to assist where ever I'm needed. I thought I'd come back to a finished battle though to be honest.
Anyway, had a really good break away....very relaxing and full of really nice food!
Welcome back Braden and Mount!
Yeah, so did the Senate... :wall:Quote:
Originally Posted by Braden
Simon now has my orders...and I can't wait to try out my new graphics card.
Christmas gift cards for best buy are easily the best gift ever. Went out and splurged them all on a 512 meg Nvidia 7600 GS. :-D
Easily better than the 256 ATI x1300 pro I had been running.
EDIT - Am I frustrating you GeneralHankerchief? lol. Sorry, but I have to stay true to my character, and Servius isn't the type to just roll over and die, even with the kind of situation he's in. You're a good opponent, keeping things interesting. Thanks.
Nice going on the 7600GS Lucjan, I daresay you'll be enormously pleased with how it handles M2TW. Not to mention Rome, of course ! :2thumbsup:
Anyway, I'll be out of action for at least 5 days starting this thursday. It seems I shall be visiting our lawful consul in Rome, in person ~;)
I hope I don't miss too much of the action, am I right in assuming the current battle 'll take some more days, maybe even a week ? :book:
PS: Welcome back Braden and Mount.
:balloon2:
I've got all the orders, but I'm off to visit my parents tomorrow and won't be able to resolve the turn 6 combats until tomorrow night at the earliest. I'll probably be requesting orders for the next turn on Thursday.
Sweet GFX card Lucjan! Wish such things didn't tend to kill my current machine but looking ahead to a big spend on a M2TW capable unit in the next few months.
Anyway, Simon, if you need me for anything regarding the battle PM me or email me to my non-work mail.
I'll keep looking though
Thanks for the offer, Braden, but Servius has basically lost his army of Iberia so has retreated into Quintus's army of Gaul which he summoned to aid him. It's probably best to just let Lucjan play out the rest of the battle as there is no longer really a divided command.
I've now sent feedback on turn 6. I think the night turn can be fairly swift, as I don't expect to resolve any major combats. BTW, generals can move freely even at night (no chance of ambush), so it's best to put them next to the two formations you most want to control when dawn breaks.
Silly question, but will missile supplies be replenished during the night?
Good idea - all units can start with a full set of ammo.Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
I am immensely pleased with the cards handling of M2 (But I still play with shadows off! :laugh4: I've grown so accustomed to it, that they actually annoy me when they're on.)
I'll post some screenshots later tomorrow or saturday.
Now all I need to do is wait until March. Then the birthday comes, and I'll be able to buy that long awaited new motherboard and cpu. Right now my seven year old 2.8 single cell just can't handle the framerates anymore. Any suggestions in this respect? Bear in mind I'll most likely be buying from Newegg.com because of their 6 month billing plan and gigantic selection.
HEy, guys!
I thought you'd be done by now, but if you still want me to retake Luca I will gladly do so.
Lucjan, buy Asus/Intel 64! I've got an A8N-SLI/3200 Venice combo that runs M2 beautifully even with a slightly outdated X1600 Pro, highly recommended with the card you've got.
edit: good heavens I sound like a geek.
Simon,
Ok, honestly i didn't think Servius' forces would last that long (Gauls again!) but I cant wait to see what's going to be the end result as Quintus' army was pretty "rock".
It's your avatar so I think it would be inappropriate for me to continue to play him. I'll PM you the latest intelligence and communications I have received. I have not yet submitted orders for the night time turn, so from there on it will be back in your hands.Quote:
Originally Posted by SwordsMaster
Thanks, Tincow. :bow: To keep things moving, I'm going to say Luca just orders his men to have a rest in the night time. That means we can move on to turn 7, the early morning turn. If people have not received feedback from me, that means nothing has changed for them. They should now submit orders for turn 7. I'd like to execute the turn 7 orders Friday night, UK time, if that's possible.
Pistols (or pila) at dawn, gentlemen. :duel:
Man, this is frustrating, not knowing what is happening in the battle......
Yes, it would be nice to have some kind of ongoing battle report, but I just don't have the time. There is a thread I've been compiling on people's orders and my umpire notes which I can make public. Unless any general objects, I'll post it here after the day 2 turn 1 orders are in (ie hopefully tonight). It will only cover the battle up to nightfall so hopefully old orders are obsolete.
I think we should release something of a teaser, a few smattered details, maybe with some intentional flaws thrown in but a general idea of the current situation, done from the perception of locals watching the battle maybe. But I think we should hold a report on the actual tactical records of the battle off until its conclusion. Just seems more intrigueing that way.
OK, I'll hold on posting the warts and all thread. The participants are welcome to release something partial. I am busy working my way through a backlog of Citadel threads, so I don't think I'll be able to manage it.
EDIT: Waiting for orders from Swordsmaster (and Tamur, if GHs orders don't cover his units).
Thanks TinCow!
:bow:
EDIT: Just sent you the orders, Simon.
Orders sent.
All generals should now have feedback on turn 8. Turn 9 (mid-morning) orders are now invited.
NB: there are three massive heavy infantry combats going on, and these will be resolved in turn 9. You can tweak the outcome of these at the margins, by committing any free troops. However, trying to rearrange units locked in battle would be very risky - probably disasterous if you did not have reinforcements to take their place. Skirmishers etc can all be assumed to be out of ammo by now, unless you explicitly kept them out of the fight.
Well, not giving too much away for those who weren't involved in the battle...
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
Ohh, wait until you guys get the public announcement from Econ regarding this turn. It's a doozy.
Not sure I like the sound of that. :scared:
econ, can you clear your inbox?
-edit: double post. Please delete.-
Is it still joinable?
Actually we're wrapping this pbem up with the end of this battle. But will soon after be starting one with M2 as soon as we clear up all the details on what we want to keep the same, change, and new details we want to add to keep the game as interesting as possible at all times.
Sorry about that - inbox cleared. Waiting to hear from GH and Lucjan. :jumping:
EDIT: E-mail checked and orders received, GH. :bow:
Check your email.
C'm-on! Consul!!
OK, the battle for Rome is over - it was a close run thing[1], but in the end numbers decided the matter in the Senate's favour. I've posted a thread detailing the orders and umpire feedback. I think this effectively ends the Civil War: there are still eight strong Senate armies in the field (Luca, Decius, Tiberius, Cnaeus, Lucius, Secundus and Numerius x2) and only two far away Consular ones (Quintus Libo & Flavius Paucuvius) with no hope of reinforcements.
I think now is the time to wind down this PBM. To end things properly, a propose we have a final election to put in place a new First Consul as a successor to Servius. I would also like to give them the option of playing on solo if they wish - they could even pass on the savegame after 5 years to a successor, as in a traditional oldstyle PBM. If people like Generalhankerchief, Braden or Mount Suribachi want to continue this campaign up on a such lowkey basis, I am happy for them to do so. I might even be tempted myself. People can also round off any Civil War stories - I'd like to see some closure to Manius's story at least. But I think after the election, we should close the Senate deliberations thread and stop passing on the savegames for generals to fight their own battles so that we free up the Throne Room to devote its energies to other future PBMs - notably M2TW but also, perhaps after a patch, EB 0.8.
[1]BTW, in case anyone wondered, I was basing the dual battle aspect of the Battle for Rome on Waterloo-Wavre.
Noooo, say it ain't so!!! Must all good things come to an end?
For the record, I would be happy to play on as a fighting general, though not as a consul.
Of course, I am assuming that no-one tries to prosecute Oppius for siding with Servius ~;)
Hmm, short problem guys.
The Rapidshare uploads for the mod aren't there anymore. This doesn't affect me too much but I would prefer to re-download them onto a different computer in order to make the game work a bit better.
Congrats to all sides, but especially my Senate comrades-in-arms Luca and Decius. :grin:
Great battle guys and great finale for this story!
All in all I think it's an interesting enough wrap up for the pbem. It didn't dwindle out at the end, stayed tense up until the last moment, and still leaves open the chance of a Servian return or perhaps children of his rising to prominence in Rome's future, under a different name than Aemilia of course. But it's an interesting concept to leave the game off with.
EDIT - As a further note, I wanted you guys to be the first to know that a friend and I are working on something that I think the org could really have a good time with. A comic strip series intended to focus on the life of a few video game enthusiasts like ourselves with a comic bent towards TW series references and situations. Look for the first issue by middle of January, after which I'd like to put out a strip every 1-2 weeks. Hope you guys will like it, and I'll be looking for feedback. ~;)
Cool, econ can be even *more* famous than he already is! :beam: Looking forward to that Lucjan, make sure to keep us updated.
*walks in quietly*
Ummmmmmmm :sweatdrop: , I'm sorry for never have been active during this, but since this has gotten good, can I still be in? Thank you
*leaves quietly*
Hi Patriach of Constantinople, aka Hannibal99. ~:wave: I am sorry but this is PBM is just closing - there would be no point rejoining. However, we will very soon be starting a similar M2TW PBM which you would be welcome to join. Keep your eyes peeled or contribute to the brainstorming session going on in the M2TW HRE trial thread.
One thing I was thinking about is starting another RTW mod PBEM. In the MTW2 test thread there seems agreement that the "feudal" system you've developed makes for a slow game, so how about running a more conventional system in another game? Perhaps using the royal and non-royal idea I talked about in the MTW2 test thread.
I was thinking maybe a BI game using gothmod or Invasio Barbarorum, perhaps re-uniting the Roman Empire again, this time as the ERE? I know you want to do an EB game as well Simon, but are waiting for 1.0 to come out. For that matter, anyone have a clue when RTR 7.0 is due? Its been "soon" for about 6 months now....
Gah! We was robbed!! :laugh4:
Anyway, seems like I ought to put some effort into finishing the Decus/Manius story now guys.
Trust something like a holiday to get in the way of creative endeavours.
*Consul forever!!*
*Edit - Actually, I’m waiting for the HOF results. Thought I’d missed the votes as they were “meant” to be finalised over Christmas but I see that they polls haven’t opened yet.
So I understand this entire thing is slowly winding down now, isn't it...
Anyway, the consul isn't found yet and would it be possible for him to ...ehm...resurface at some time - or will the good consul (heh) eventually rise up again ?
Having such an army at my disposal as I have now, and doing nothing with it, is a waste...
:balloon2:
I think so - GeneralHankerchief and I are inclined to see the next Consul(s) elected but then put the PBM to bed. If anyone wants to pick up the savegame - stand for Consul against us asap. We may run with it a bit in a more conventional PBM manner, but no promises.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dutch_guy
I think we should regard the reappearance of Servius as a bogeyman story used by loyal Senate matrons to scare their little charges to sleep at night. If people want to write any end of campaign vignettes, they should leave Servius's fate open. I suspect Servius, like Hannibal, he may prove too big a man to escape into obscurity forever, but no doubt Lucjan envisages a more upbeat scenario than dying in some faraway land.Quote:
Anyway, the consul isn't found yet and would it be possible for him to ...ehm...resurface at some time - or will the good consul (heh) eventually rise up again ?
Not sure if you know about this - but the King of Carthage insisted on you disbanding all your non-Italian/Roman troops. You even had to put down your own elephants. :elephant: => ~:mecry: So it is not "such an army". And I doubt Marcellus and Numerius would be happy to leave you alone with it in Afrika given recent events. :inquisitive:Quote:
Having such an army at my disposal as I have now, and doing nothing with it, is a waste...
Oh yes, I do know that - although I was under the impression my force was still somewhat large. Larger at least than it seems to be ~:mecry: :embarassed:Quote:
Originally Posted by econ21
:balloon2:
It's a full stack, I think, and now being exclusively composed of Romans/Italians is pretty hardcore. It's just that it could not really cause that much trouble in the long run when the Senate have eight such stacks back in Europe.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dutch_guy
:juggle2:
Oh I wasn't planning on actually taking Rome or anything like that, the 1 :8 (give or take) ratio doesn't quite sound that appealing, but since when does a Roman look and act in the long run -heh.Quote:
Originally Posted by econ21
:balloon2:
Both a M2TW and an EB PBM are going to happen soon - within weeks for the former and a month or two for the latter. I've just posted some simple ideas for a WotSII type PBM for M2TW that I think would be unproblematic. EB players want to go with the current version 0.8, after a minor patch (not 1.0). It looks like it may not be a Roman one - perhaps Greeks or a less conventional faction.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mount Suribachi
The question is whether there is room for a third new PBM. Personally, I would be interested in a BI game using gothmod or Invasio Barbarorum. But would enough other players? If you want to pursue this idea, you could start a new thread.
I personally can't get enough of the Romans, so I would be happy to join an ERE campaign. I'd like to keep it to the traditional "succession" type model though - I think there's only room for one WotS type game with deliberations and votes etc. I can't recall how long generals live in BI, but I think we played proper reigns in the WRE epic and reigns were epic, but manageable (just :sweatdrop: - someone suggested we play on after unificaton and an exhausted TinCow was aghast at the idea). I'd even prefer not to delegate battles, so as to keep up momentum and pace.
Well, I was thinking of a more in-between game. The MTW2 rules for HRE are still a bit too complicated for my liking. My ideal would be a game with a hereditary ruler, but battles still parcelled out to other players.
That would be fine by me. My inclination is to finalise the M2TW PBM first - the rules and the playlist. Then we can see if it is still to complex for you and whether there are enough players who could commit to the kind of PBM you are proposing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mount Suribachi
We just got the last of the knots worked out and Tosa should be posting the HoF voting threads very soon.Quote:
Originally Posted by Braden
Good write-up of the battle for Rome, GeneralHankerchief! I will see if I can dig out some screenshots to illustrate it later tonight.
PS: In case any WotS veterans have missed it, we are starting up the successor MT2W PBM today - "King of the Romans" (that title rather makes it sound like Servius won afterall :inquisitive: ).
Well, he did survive. No telling what hand he or his children had in Roman history afterwards. We ended our part of the chronicle with the civil war. ~;)
We'll see about that. Marcellus still has one last story to tell. :evilgrin:
Hey now, that doesn't mean you can just go ahead and kill him off. Something like that requires a cooperative work. :sweatdrop:
I promise to leave the ending ambiguous. :saint:
Ok, do you want to cooperate on a work in which Servius dies? :laugh4:Quote:
Originally Posted by Lucjan
To be honest, a dramatic suicide seems more fitting.
:smash: Ok, ok, ok. Everybody with ideas on what you want to happen to Servius, send me a pm. We'll talk. :yes: :laugh4: