Anyone already starting to write the follow-up story to the Danish crusade dilemma? As noted in the report, both spies have reached their positions.
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Anyone already starting to write the follow-up story to the Danish crusade dilemma? As noted in the report, both spies have reached their positions.
An increase in station and nookie at the same time? You can count Lothar in.Quote:
Originally Posted by StoneCold
Jobst has all his favourites worked out, and a little story is developing...
As FactionHeir said, who is doing the followup? I volunteeer, since Jobst had the most to do with the whole stuff up, whatever you call it.
Sorry guy's it's been a little hectic at work.
I'm staying in the Reich and wont be going on crusade.
Stuperman, Arnold will certainly accept the offer of caning the Hungarians with the BHA.
He needs to be knighted as soon as possible. TC could/should come along also.
The House's are link by quite a lot of background now and I'd like Lothar and Arnold to be knighted in the same battle for a few story board reasons.
FH,
I'm back home this evening and can give you a build queue for Budapest.
If Stuperman and TC are in agreement with the above idea then please make the necessary in game moves to accomplish this.
You can take it - but please leave Dusan Kolar alone; he may have one more act to play.Quote:
Originally Posted by Warluster
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Originally Posted by StoneCold
I'm in but only once I see her avatar face, if she's not my type then I'll find some other tart :laugh4:
*shocked expression*
I don't meddle with other peoples stories or characters, wasn't even thinking of Dusan!
(Though maybe some other characters...wink,wink,nudge,nudge say no more.)
I've updated the playlist, including a marker for being a Duke's heir.
I know Gerherd Steffen is Otto's heir; by primo geniture, I am assuming Arnold is Leopold's and Ansehelm is Gunther's - the relevant Dukes can post if those assumptions are wrong.
Swabia does not seem to have an obvious heir, although Friedrich is young and could wait.
Ulrich? :laugh4:
Hi Econ,
You are correct about Austria. Leopold made his ascension plans clear in the Austrian House thread if you would like to check.
I am in agreement, but I don't think the BHA is going eastwards. From what I've been reading, it's just heading north to garrison Milan. Regardless, Lothar is going east to be knighted however possible.Quote:
Originally Posted by AussieGiant
AG: Stuperman said he wants to stay for cure, so the BHA won't be moving much it seems. Current orders that were received within the deadline are to have it garrison Milan.
Once a Bavarian (TC) is knighted though, I'll consider having to perform a few tasks if there are new orders.
And I bet Jobst will marry off Lyse to whoever supports him while he is emperor. Something like Heinrich.
Hi All,
FH just confirmed that Kag (these nick names are just going great now), is bringing the AHA back to Ragusa to pick up me and whoever else is there and then go hunting Hungarian punetang!!
Maybe you need to get FH to move you over withm e and we can hang out until Kag arrives.
Kag is that ok with you?
Fantastics I just picked up foul language
hey wheres the most recent save file?
Waiting for Xdeathfire to play his battle. He hasn't been on in a day and he previously said that he wasn't going to have much time for a while, so he might not make the time limit. I don't know exactly when FactionHeir sent him the save, but it looks like it will have to be autoresolved if he doesn't play it by sometime tomorrow.Quote:
Originally Posted by gibsonsg91921
I believe xdeathfire has it, Duke Scherer is assaulting Paris. The saves been out for over a day.
Go to:
http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/
click twice on last modified, and that should bring up the latest save:
http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/kotr1220-3.rar
Xdeathfire says he'll play it today/tomorrow.
The savegame was uploaded on 31 May at 13.31 (no idea what time zone that is), so presumably the 48 hour deadline expires today. If it is a siege, I guess you could just hold rather than autoresolve.Quote:
Originally Posted by FactionHeir
It would be good if we could find a way of coordinating between Chancellors and generals to avoid this kind of delay. In WotS we had an upper house/lower house distinction. People who are going to be unavailable for more than 48 hours at a time probably should drop the Chancellor a PM or post here to say they won't be able to fight battles. I know GeneralHankerchief and Ignoramus found themselves in that position during my period as Chancellor.
Xdeathfire has until 19:31 I think it is to fight the battle. (and upload it)
Just finished battle. Sorry for the wait, schools a bit busy. I won and lost 260 men and killed around 1150 with about 300 captured. Battle report will be up and save is uploaded
Great, exactly 48 hours, not a minute late :p
As for your post in the C&G reports, the build queues are late, but I did receive your previous build orders in time, which were "build what you like".
SHA legal orders have already been fulfilled and they will now be garrisoning Paris and defending the Swabian border. OOC rules prevent further invasion using the HA without edict.
Battle report is up. The pics are a bit wierd though just to let you know. Couldn't resive the thing in paint so there is some white background on there.
So I can't invade more of France??? Thats a shame really seeing as how Caen and the city southwest of it are lightly defended and I can probably take bruges, caen, and that city before this term ends.
just a warning - i dont have winRAR so if theres a battle involving Ehrhart von Mahren after he is knighted then itll have to be uploaded as a zip file.
ps i cant get winRAR either cuz i play on my moms work computer and she's never thrilled about downloading free software
GAH wrong topic. delete this post.
Well hell that is interesting.
Ragusa is full of enough troops to relieve Zagreb but none of the avatars are knighted to lead the attack. Doing an auto resolve would be too dangerous for 4 avatars I guess.
If the Budapest garrison is being besieged by the small two unit Hungarian army then auto resolve a sally if the attacking units are not too good.
The AHA details are for Jonas to decide.
I don't want to risk losing Budapest to the Hungarians by trying to sally. If those are knight units, autoresolve would result in defeat.
I'm hoping the presence of the BHA will drive the Hungarians off from Zagreb, but we'll see. If necessary, I might send Lothar in for an autoresolve (either as attacker or standing next to Zagreb for defense) if Jonas cannot make it up quickly enough.
Currently, there are two battles to fight. Jonas von Mahren vs Venetian stack blocking his way (unless he wants to take a long route which might end up getting blocked anyway) and Günther von Kastilien against the Russians inside Thorn.
Save at: http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/kotr1222.rar
Rules are: First come first serve, if you take the save to play the battle, post here. If you do not upload a save of the battle within 3 hours of your posting, its up for grabs again. Also, if both battles are not fought within 50 hours from now, I will autoresolve the remainder.
Any comments on my unstructured preliminary report for 1222 so far?
mmmm I see Jonas von Mahren placed under the Austrian house, even tho Kage said he himself would stay a Franconian and that only his children would become Austrians.
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...8&postcount=77
Good spot Stig.
That means as soon as Kag, knights me I will take over the AHA.
Now, how we do that is a problem. The Venetian's are blocking.
Maybe we can join en mass as reinforcements from the other side of the battle.
Kag are you there fella?
Stig, in the post and storyline, it was said that the AHA will be under Jonas until an Austrian can lead it, so nothing wrong with that. I agreed with AG, the troops and units from Ragusa can come in as reinforcement. Even if we follow the constitution of army should be lead by knights, we can just send in all the avatars bodyguard units. That way all could be knighted in one go.
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Originally Posted by StoneCold
That's a 10-4 rubber ducky!!
hey OK nothing personal about arguing with u i just like to raise a ruckus.
The following is a list of the avatars and their location and status. Are those few unassigned avatars knighted yet? Also can everyone check if their locations are correct if it is not too much trouble. I do not have the game, so this is the only way I can keep track of pple. Thanks
Imperial House
Kaiser - Henry(k) - Econ
location - South of Damascus - Imperial army (IA)
Other titles - Ex-Chancellor, Crusader
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...66&postcount=6
Prinz - Jobst von Salza(k) - warluster
location - North of Staufen - IEA
Other titles - Count of Dijon, Elector of Swabia
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...3&postcount=15
House of Swabia
Duke - Friedrich Scherer(k) - xdeathfire
location - West of Paris - SHA
Other titles - Elector of Swabia
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...8&postcount=28
Count - Ulrich Hümmel(k) - Ignoramus
location - Adana - garrison
Other titles - Count of Metz, Elector of Swabia, Crusader
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...0&postcount=17
Count - Hans(k) - Factionheir
location - Near Constantinople - army?
Other titles - Count of Bern, Elector of Swabia, Crusader, Chancellor
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...2&postcount=18
Count - Elberhard(k) - Pharnakes
location - Aleppo - garrison
Other titles - Elector of Swabia
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...65&postcount=5
Count - Harold von Dassel -
location - Dijon - garrison
Other titles - Elector of Swabia
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...0&postcount=22
House of Austria
Duke - Leopold(k) - Ituralde
location - Aegean sea - 2nd Crusade Army
Other titles - Elector of Austria, Ex-Chancellor
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...69&postcount=7
Count - Arnold - AussieGiant
location - Ragusa - garrison
Other titles - Count of Budapest, Elector of Austria, Steward of Austria
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...5&postcount=25
Count - Karl Zirn(k?) - Northnovas (knighted?)
location - Aegean sea - 2nd Crusade Army
Other titles - Count of Zagreb, Elector of Austria
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...5&postcount=20
Count - Erhart von Mahren - gibsonsg91921
location - Ragusa - garrison
Other titles - Count of Prague, Elector of Austria
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...3&postcount=24
Count - Sigismund von Mahren - CecilXIX
location - Ragusa - garrison
Other titles - Elector of Austria
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...1&postcount=27
ArchdukeEvan - Fourth Elector of Austria
House of Franconia
Duke - Gunther von Kastilien(k) - Dutch_guy
location - sieging Thorn - FHA
Other titles - Elector of Franconia
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...1&postcount=13
Count - Fredericus von Hamburg(k) - FLYdude
location - Aegean sea - 2nd Crusade Army
Other titles - Count of Hamburg, Elector of Franconia, Crusader
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...6&postcount=12
Count - Jonas von Mahren(k) - Kagemusha
location - Near Ragusa - AHA (temp comander)
Other titles - Count of Magdeburg , Elector of Franconia, Crusader
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...3&postcount=14
Count - Ansehelm von Kastilien(k) - Stig
location - Near Breslau - garrison ?
Other titles - Count of Thorn, Elector of Franconia
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...0&postcount=19
Count - Helmut von Hamburg -
location - Aegean sea - 2nd Crusade Army
Other titles - Elector of Franconia, Crusader
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...75&postcount=8
Count - Jan von Hamburg -
location - Ragusa - garrison
Other titles - Elector of Franconia, Crusader
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...7&postcount=21
Count - Fritz von Kastilien -
location - Florence - garrison
Other titles - Elector of Franconia
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...1&postcount=23
Count - Peter von Kastilien -
location - northeast of Venice - BHA
Other titles - Elector of Franconia
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...8&postcount=26
House of Bavaria
Duke - Otto von Kassel(k) - OverKnight
location - Adana - garrison
Other titles - Elector of Bavaria, Crusader, King of Outremer
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...3&postcount=10
Count - Gerhard Steffen(k) - Stuperman
location - Rome - garrison
Other titles - Count of Genoa, Elector of Bavaria, Steward
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...6&postcount=11
Count - Conrad Salier(k) - GeneralHankerchief
location - Aegean sea - 2nd Crusade Army?
Other titles - Count of Milan, Elector of Bavaria
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...1&postcount=16
Count - Lothar Steffen(k) - TinCow
location - northeast Venice - BHA
Other titles - Elector of Bavaria
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...80&postcount=9
Imperial HouseQuote:
Originally Posted by StoneCold
Kaiser - Henry(k) - Econ
location - Outremer - Imperial army (IA)
Other titles - Ex-Chancellor, Crusader
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...66&postcount=6
South of Damascus, Imperial Army
Count - Ulrich Hümmel(k) - Ignoramus
location - Outremer (?) - army?
Other titles - Count of Metz, Elector of Swabia, Crusader
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...0&postcount=17
Adana
Count - Elberhard(k) - Pharnakes? (knighted?)
location - Outremer, East of Aleppo - army?
Other titles - Elector of Swabia
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...65&postcount=5
Knighted by Hans, in Aleppo
Count - Fritz von Kastilien -
location - near Venice - BHA?
Other titles - Elector of Franconia
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...1&postcount=23
Garrison Florence
Count - Peter von Kastilien -
location - ? - ?
Other titles - Elector of Franconia
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...8&postcount=26
BHA Northeast of Venice
Duke - Otto von Kassel(k) - OverKnight
location - Outremer? - Army of Outremer?
Other titles - Elector of Bavaria, Crusader
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...3&postcount=10
King of Outremer, Acre
Count - Lothar Steffen(k) - TinCow
location - near Venice? - BHA
Other titles - Elector of Bavaria
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...80&postcount=9
Northeast of Venice, leading(?) BHA
Thanks alot OK.
Also, there is only 1 crusade army with a lot of generals StoneCold.
Harald von Dassel is garrisoning Dijon and Jan von Hamburg is in Ragusa (unless I'm mixing the brothers up)
Peter von Kastilien and Lothar Steffen are travelling with the BHA (not commanding) and neither is knighted.
Jobst is north of Staufen with a medium-large force, that will grow to a full stack once he reaches the Danes.
I meant it as the 2nd Crusade. So one of the brothers von Hamburg stayed behind? I assumed both would have followed since they are so far south. :P
So what is the story behind Harald and Elberhard? You fought their battles? Elberhard is now a free avatar? I thought according to the rules they would have to be auto-resolved? And is Harald knighted?
Elberhard is knighted, Harald (or was it Harold?) is not. Since the player for the former is inactive and there is no player for the latter, I did autoresolve both battles (otherwise that Egyptian noble would not have escaped ;) )
OIC.
My opinion regarding the commanding of the BHA is that the constitution is there to make the game harder for us. So I am a bit reluctant to see the BHA being lead by Lothar, a human controlled battle. I have no problem with auto-resolving that battle... :P if Lothar looses that battle, he will be more humble... :P assuming he doesn't die.
So what is the knighting process for a auto-resolve win? I assume the chancellor knight the commander as the army has no one of noble rank.
I don't think there is a procedure for an autoresolve win, otherwise I would have needed to knight the unassigned von Dassel after the chased down the rebels.
To be honest though, I find it odd that we are knighting people after their first battle, regardless how small it is. Would be more fun to have 2 small battles or 1 large battle as a requirement. But of course we do lack knights in Europe currently, but considering Jonas will knight some 7 nobles in 1 battle...
When I jobst was in Dijon, and someone needed knighting, I wouldn't just knight them. I used to send the requirements and what you have to achieve to be knighted.
whose avatar is elberhard?
I agree that knighting should be merit based, I.E. rolling a few peasant bandits, unless the odds are against you, shouldn't be grounds for promotion. Still if there is a large or difficult battle and the bodyguard units for the avatars rack up some kills, they should be knighted.
If there's no senior commander present, knighting should be at the discretion of the Chancellor.
hey stonecold ehrhart von mahren is the count of prague because archdukeevan is inactive
gibsonsg, ok updated on ehrhart. Elberhard was supposed to be Pharnakes, but I dun think he posted since he was assigned the avatar.
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Originally Posted by FactionHeir
Ahem, I am a bit perturbed at this apparent joy of sending me into a battle for an autoresolve. Perhaps I should just have Lothar leave the army in fury at being denied command under the circumstances. I am not pleased with the idea of entrusting his fate to the computer.Quote:
Originally Posted by StoneCold
Factionheir - please try to keep an eye on the historical army composition. I know it's hard to keep track of - I slipped up occasionally. But Prince Jobst's army has 6/10 knights when it should be 4/10 max and the BHA is one knight over too.
On the knights not commanding armies, I think it has got to be autoresolved - otherwise the whole business of knighting is meaningless. I agree knighting should only happen if the avatars do something valorous.
After an autoresolve, I guess the Chancellor should have discretion to knight surviving generals - but again, it should not be automatic (it should look like they actually fought - e.g. gained valour, a trait, lost a lot of men etc).
TC, nothing personal... but rules are rules... but I agree that it is a waste if she a good avatar dies in his first battle.
i think it would be ok if lothar wasnt leading the BHA, but a squire leading the official forces of bavaria doesnt seem right.
Well, you have that right - the Chancellor certainly should not send avatars into danger against the owning player's will.Quote:
Originally Posted by TinCow
But it is a tough choice both in and out of character. The autoresolve risks death, but is a fast route to promotion.
if the odds are considerably in TC's favor i say autoresolve that biatch
otherwise, hold off.
I've figured out a better solution, see the Diet. I get to command my own fate and the law isn't broken.
:2thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by TinCow
In the same vein, Lothar could get his 6 units to command, and the other units in any prospective battle, the garrison and the rest of the BHA, could come in as reinforcements under AI command (IC the seperate commands of minor nobles). This way we have Lothar leading his portion of the battle legally, while still not having overall command.
Edit: Just imagine Lothar cursing the stupidity of the other Imperial commanders while bailing them out and seething about why, WHY didn't they give him overall command.
Good way round the rule TC. and will make for a great battle and definitely a Knighthood. :)
Yes, the garrison as reinforcements under the AI is totally legit. What's in the garrison, btw?
genius TC :book:
The Garrison is 5 units total:
Merchant Cavalry
Armoured Sergeants
Spear Militia
Town Militia x 2
not a whole lot to work with - lets hope some of ol mandorfs skill isnt forgotten
hey, hey, BUSY weekend, and was out of town on fri so there has been limited updates form me, I'll be back sun night NA time.
So what about my solution, I'm sitting picking my nose in Ragusa while TC is bending constitutional law as only he know's best :laugh4:
I NEED THIS GUY'S, I WANT THIS, I HAVE TO HAVE THIS :beam:
I'm off again in 1 week to Canada for 4 weeks. I wont be able to fight any battle's Arnold gets into myself in this time.
I have already received an agreement that Ituralde can fight for me...but I'm dying here. I've waited 5 months for an avatar and now I'm going to watching from the sidelines...:wall:
Ahh well, :yes:
PS
I also would like to point out the army composition rule. With so many knights it is just unbalancing the already unbalanced situation further.
FH, I'm not saying this against you but just in general.
Maybe we need to pool all the avatars without people and plonk them somewhere as back ups.
According to the rules travelling with unhistorical army composition is not a problem, only fighting battles is.
That said, my chancellor's report does state that Jobst is heading for Hamburg and bound to get reinforcements. When he does, he will have the proper number of knights as his overall army size increases.
As for the BHA, I was still considering how and if to let them fight. If Lothar's proposal is accepted, I'll split off a suitable composition of course.
Again, for the crusade, it was impossible to get more troops in time and they are on a ship currently. Composition will be changed once they land in Outremer.
Hope that clears it up.
Also, good note about the auto resolve knighting econ. Will keep that one in mind. Looks like we get to rewrite some charter at the next diet.
I completely understand FH.
Cheers
AG
When I was Chancellor I was coming to the view that a full strength Household Army is a bit of overkill outside of full on war zones (ie outside of Rheims/Paris and Krakow). A smaller force such as Prinz Jobst's army is capable of handling most unexpected threats.
Where the enemy are less concentrated and we have to guard a larger area, it is probably a good idea to split up the Household Armies (ie the BHA and AHA), so that we have two half stack ones - they can draw on local militia where needed. They can guard twice as much territory (e.g. Bavaria could cover both Marseilles and Rome; Austria can cover both Budapest and Ragusa). As we knight more avatars that should be feasible and most players voted for two Household Armies a piece last Diet.
I know, but Jonas was placed under the house of Austria, while he himself will always be a Franconian.Quote:
Originally Posted by StoneCold
BTW didn't we vote against the small armies Franconia proposed in the last Diet. Would be strange to bring them back, wouldn't it?
And FH, shouldn't it be time to bring the young Franconian nobles to Franconia?
Stig, the vote was out because there was no maximum number of house army or imperial army the chancellor can make, only the minimum, at least one house army each.
The young franconian nobles are mostly down south, it will take a bit of time to move them north, I think FH was hoping to get Jonas to lead them north.
What StoneCold said. Hopefully Jonas can get them all knighted or at least a few of them so those can get the rest knighted.
I'm not sure what to do about the unassigned Fritz von Kastilien yet. He's a good enough governor to keep one of the Italian cities from rioting and Bavaria lacks avatars on the west and south fronts. Having him there for even autoresolves would help at the moment. If the Duke of Franconia feels he wants Fritz to go north though, I can arrange that too.
Due to the discovery of a major bug in CA's trait hardcode recently in the buglist, I have updated the fixes to version 1.25a. The only difference from 1.25 is that I disabled all NoGoingBackLevels for traits.
RAR format: http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/KOTRfix125a.rar
ZIP format [only for 7 days]: http://download.yousendit.com/A19F7CD3597F02BF
I just hope it gets sorted out :help:
Once I'm knighted then Kag will be free to take those Franconian's nobles that are not part of Austria back up north.
I can then knight those that need to be using the AHA.
Then as econ suggests and something I realised previously (one of the reason's I voted for it) I will split the AHA in two and re-deploy with some of the knew knights.
Should I write this in the Diet FH or is this enough?
If I do, then Arnold's going to go banana's with all this bureaucracy :beam:
fix 125a installed!!
You probably won't need to repost it. I was planning on splitting them anyway to cover south and east separately. Just need more knights for that.
Hmmmm I just read the paragraph on household armies and noticed that contrary to popular belief, house armies actually are allowed to take more than 1 settlement per diet. It specifies in order 5 only the hostile action and that a settlement may be chosen as long as it borders the house and the empire is at war with the faction. Thus the SHA would be allowed to keep rolling through French territory in accordance to Xdeathfire's orders?
Hey guys, just a quick post to notify you all that I'll be fighting my battle some time today - probably around eight [20 00], as I've got some school work I really should be doing until then.
:balloon2:
The exams have finished haven't they?
Or aren't you that far yet?
I'm in my fifth year, meaning my CS isn't until next year. That said, had I actually finished my CS I wouldn't be in such a coherent state now would I ? :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by Stig
:balloon2:
heh good point ~:cheers:
Wait till yer at University
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Originally Posted by FactionHeir
I think the point FH was to prevent this type of thing happening. Even though you found another loop hole, it is a stated fact that HA are meant to defend and not go rampaging through foreign lands not matter what highly paid legal eagle has found. :)
If people want me to find loop holes then there are a tonne, and we don't want to go in that direction do we? :beam:
dang i wanted ehrhart to get knighted so i could do some battling!
o well theres bigger duties to do around prague, like sititng around scratching my butt
My city might fall?? Being away from home just logged on and reading the post without seeing the game is like being on a Crusade and getting dispatches from home and not knowing how it is going to workout!
Will the reinforcements arrive, who will lead???
I guess it's best this way because if I was there I wouldn't be capable to lead because I haven't been knighted and would be on the same frustration level of AG.
Check one of the screens in my report Northnovas. You'll find the situation there.
FH, originally the house army commands are only to be given at the start of your term, so at most each duke could only specify one city to be taken in each diet.