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Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh
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Yeah.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh
Vote: Khaan
It isn't about being inactive, but I believe that every night a townie can go somewhere as well, and that means he can protect himself from mafia by not being at home.
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Originally Posted by Stig
no one suspecious ill come back in few hours
Vote: Abstain
Anything more to say besides that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Seamus
And why did you ignore/are you ignoring this:
And once you explained why you ignored it, maybe you can respond properly...Quote:
Originally Posted by Andres
Vote : Seamus
Orb: 1 (Ichigo)
Killfr3nzy: 1 (GH)
Seamus: 1 (Andres)
Unvote:Orb:404:
So... you voted Orb to put some pressure and now you unvote him....Quote:
Originally Posted by Ichigo
What has he done in the meantime to be unvoted? I checked the thread three times and I didn't see him posting since you voted him... ~:confused:
Can't put pressure with one vote Andres. I read through the thread and noticed he did post last round, so I unvoted him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andres
I see.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ichigo
Who are you going to pressure now?
You'll be the first to know once I find out Andres.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andres
What about Seamus. Does he sound scummy to you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ichigo
You're overreacting. Might as well pose my own question then, do you think GH has a role?Quote:
Originally Posted by Andres
Night all.:sleep:
I don't know.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ichigo
Vote: Seamus
I got a feeling that Seamus is the one we are looking for. Plus his the only lynch target we got right now.
I don't quite agree with the diagnosis of Seamus. I doubt he'd draw that much attention with a single post if he were mafia. Currently I'm suspicious of Stig, for his random greaterkhaan attacking.
Greaterkhaan was at the restaurant again last night. I suspect he's just going there for the sake of it, but it could be considered a sort of cover. I doubt he would, in a game with 15 players: 2 mafiosi, take the risk of avoiding kills for the sake of not being seen.
Ichigo's vot/post ing seems too casual for a mafioso,
I'm suspicious of Roadkill at the moment (his vote's timing seems very mafiosoish [after there's already plenty of suspicion against the victim, and noone really speaking out, placing a vote with a limited and not necessarily backed up reason]), Andres, did you see him at the restaurant on the first night?
Andres has me in his sights, and has from relatively early in the thread. I wouldn't gainsay his targeting of me either. He has, as evidence:Quote:
Originally Posted by Orb
Sasaki's N1 death -- which comes off as either a newbie "mistake" [which I think led some to choose the doctor absent a better choice] or as an experienced player trying to create that impression and sow WIFOM confusion for a later defense [Andres and I both lean toward the latter explanation].
My Post -- which seemed to Andres as though I were trying to force a first round reveal from the General [note, Andres, that I hinted that he may have an active role -- I did not specify a pro-town role; if anything I suspect him of a mafia role and was trying to get his goat; he later PM'd me to say I was off base in this].
My failure to respond to his query regarding that post -- to which, by the way, I did not respond as I just thought he was "casting about."
I think 'khaan drew some flak last round, so I didn't read Stig's vote as completely out of the blue.
General Question spurred by Orb's questions:
Can you do a night action AND go to the restaraunt? Do we all know who we meet at these various venues? This map thing is new to me.
I only saw greaterkhaan at the restaurant. And he wasn't eating a spicy meatball :grin:Quote:
Originally Posted by Orb
Unvote ; Vote : Roadkill
@greaterkhaan: did you see Roadkill on night one?
@Caius: does the mafia have to be in the correct place to perform a kill? Do they have to tell you: go to [player]'s house and kill him and if the player is at that time in the bar or the restaurant, they fail? Or do they just have to give you the name of the target and they will automatically succeed, no matter where the target is (= they will follow the target to wherever he may be)?
Andres, you are obviously lieing as I saw only greater khan.
Edit: This was referring to day 1.
You have a problem RK, since GK saw me at the restaurant night 1...Quote:
Originally Posted by RoadKill
Also Andreas, before you even made this comment, I already proved Greater khan of inocence as I was also at the resturant were I saw, if I wasnt there, why the heck would I prove that. It also seems that "you say" you have saw him at the resturant as well, if you were even there. Therefore how the heck would I have known he was there, if no one before me said he was at the resturant. Also you have just proved my innocence as you have also said that you saw greater khan at the resturant as well, which means I was not lieing about that.
And yes, Andreas I have a very big problem, becuase I dont want the town to make a stupid lynch. :yes:
BTW, why do you have to get so overreacting about everything, something to hide?
How is thoroughly interrogating "overreacting" ? You don't like a bit of discussion?
As for you declaring you saw GK at the restaurant: Woad&Fangs told us GK was at the restaurant. You only claimed you could confirm that. In the meantime, I already pm'ed GK that I saw him at the restaurant and I decided to switch to another suspect. There was no need in confirming GK's innocence in public. I prefer living innocents. Thus far however, nobody told me he saw you at the restaurant on night 1, so we only have your statement that you were there, nobody else confirmed that thus far.
Anyway, I only saw greaterkhaan at the restaurant on night 1 and nobody else. I also know he saw me. If greaterkhaan declares that he saw you as well at the restaurant on night 1, I am willing to unvote you. Until then, my vote stands.
Well, were just going to have to wait for Greaterkhan. Anyways does being at the resturant mean were innocent for sure or what?
We don't know. But if nobody saw you at the restaurant, we'll have to conclude that you lied.Quote:
Originally Posted by RoadKill
Did anyone follow my advice in my last post?
Putrid Rotting Maggotdinner Finger of Suspicion: Roadkill and Orb
Andres is just doing is agressive obnoxious lawyer thing he does when he's a townie. I'm pretty confident of his innocence.
Random?Quote:
Currently I'm suspicious of Stig, for his random greaterkhaan attacking.
Unvote, vote: Orb
Is this one random as well?
Yeah, and now you've got a bigger problem, RK. I NEVER saw you night one at the restaurant. I saw only Andres. Nobody else. I don't know what kind of stunt you're trying to pull, but I don't like it. Vote: RoadkillQuote:
Originally Posted by Andres
Yes. The only thing I've seen you doing this game is heading for greaterkhaan with nothing except his meatball vote at the start to go on. You've conveniently ignored any real evidence since that time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stig
Roadkill is overreacting spectacularly and noisily to an investigation, regardless of actual voting pressure. I think most of us have been around long enough to see this as a sign of a mafioso or new player.
Oh, by the way, who else (apart from greaterkhaan and myself) went to the restaurant last night, and who did you see there?
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Yes. The only thing I've seen you doing this game is heading for greaterkhaan with nothing except his meatball vote at the start to go on. You've conveniently ignored any real evidence since that time.
Btw my vote at you stands, partly because Caius decided to gave me illness.
Uhh, care to explain? You know, like how he's wrong instead of just saying he's wrong?Quote:
Originally Posted by Stig
He had every reason to go after you. Enough of that has been explained. You went after Sarathos, because you needed someone to go after, not because he was suspicious. And that made you suspicious.Quote:
Originally Posted by greaterkhaan
After that (and before I posted in the thread, apart from my 'in'), Andres vouched for Greaterkhaan being at the restaurant. I doubt that either Andres or GK, both experienced players, would risk being seen as a pair, particularly on the first turn, if they were mafiosi.Quote:
He had every reason to go after you. Enough of that has been explained. You went after Sarathos, because you needed someone to go after, not because he was suspicious. And that made you suspicious.
There was only 1 kill, so GK can easely be one of the other mafiosi
Me and Andres both were at the restaurant. If I was a mafia, I would have killed him right there. And as our generous host had announced, one of the mafiosi ended at the wrong place, ie, somewhere where where either there wasn't anyone to kill, or they were somehow incapacitated. So, come to think of it, did anyone visit Beefy last night?Quote:
Originally Posted by Garcilaso de la Vega el Inca
How so? The mafia mostlikely send: "visit Andres at his home and kill him"Quote:
Me and Andres both were at the restaurant. If I was a mafia, I would have killed him right there. And as our generous host had announced, one of the mafiosi ended at the wrong place, ie, somewhere where where either there wasn't anyone to kill, or they were somehow incapacitated. So, come to think of it, did anyone visit Beefy last night?
And Andres wasn't there.
Or "kill Stig in the restaurant", but Stig wasn't there.
Sides there are 3 mafia, you might still be one of them.
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Originally Posted by Garcilaso de la Vega el Inca
Says different on page 1.
But still, you could still be mafia even then.
Well, we don't know how the mafia send in their orders, so if you're argument against me hinges on that, you haven't got much. Now, there's something I'm finding rather interesting, Stig. In KFM, Orb was busted because he relentlessly went after a single person. Iin games since then, you've tried to get people lynched because they did something similar. And you know what you're doing right now? Exactly what Orb did.
@Garcilaso de la Vega el Inca-just to confirm, are there two or three mafioso?
How would you know how the mafia sends their orders anyway?Quote:
Well, we don't know how the mafia send in their orders, so if you're argument against me hinges on that, you haven't got much.
I never said I did, so you can stop twisting what I say and perhaps, just maybe, answer to what I posed in the previous post and stop ignoring it like it doesn't exist.
What that I'm now only going after one person? While I just voted for Orb?
Next to that, wasn't it me who went after the same people on and on last games?
And got some mafia with it? Remember me being mayor, urging everyone to go after someone?
Well, I got the impression you voted for Orb because A) He defended me, and B) He went after you. Given timing and such, and considering that you failed to explain the vote any other way.
And yes, I remember your efforts as Mayor, but a few things have to be brought to attention in that game. First of all, it seemed to me that you had some info on people. Two, there was already a massive number of people who were either militia or other pro-town role, thus narrowing down the list of people considerably. I doubt you have the info or resources to be able to peg so many people as innocent and narrow the list of potential mafiosi. So in this game, its much tougher to nail a specific mafioso, because there are so few in comparison to the town's numbers.
Yes Andres, the mafia have to stay in the right place in the right moment. Thats why I made the map. Just to give the town the feel that they live.Quote:
Caius: does the mafia have to be in the correct place to perform a kill? Do they have to tell you: go to [player]'s house and kill him and if the player is at that time in the bar or the restaurant, they fail? Or do they just have to give you the name of the target and they will automatically succeed, no matter where the target is (= they will follow the target to wherever he may be)?
They say me:
go to X house and kill X. If not, I will his neighboodhood(sp?).
And you can perform 1 action for mafioso and townies, but CIA agents, 2.
So then, theoretically, if everyone went out and didn't stay in their houses, the mafia wouldn't be able to kill anybody?
Unless they happen to be at the correct place at the correct time.Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
Hence why Khaan can easely be mafia. He took it "John" went to the restaurant, but John wasn't there.
Thats the mafia wish.Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
So let's just say that every single townie went to the restaurant every night. Then we wouldn't see any kills, ever?
No, because the mafia can go to other places to kill someone.Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
We've got a plan ~DQuote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
All we need to do is go to the restaurant, if the mafia kills we will all see it.
Yes Caius, but there won't be anyone to kill since they're all at the restaurant.Quote:
Originally Posted by Garcilaso de la Vega el Inca
Right?
It sounds like the mafia can go to the restaurant and kill someone, as long as that person is there.Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
You see it won't you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ichigo
Not necessarily. Food poisonning can happen.
I agree with what someone said about Roadkill: overreacting to thorough investigations is the mark of a mafioso or a new player.
Vote:Roadkill.
Ah, by the way, on night one I went to the restaurant. I wasn't told anyone else had been there.
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Originally Posted by Stig
Andres and I are eating in the restaurant, you stab him, I see it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ichigo
Meh, that would be too easy for the town. It would make us all detectives. Let us all go to the restaurant, if somebody dies we'll see the killer. That would a bit unbalanced.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stig
Stig, what do you think about Roadkill?
You may see the stabbing, but I doubt you'll get the identity of the stabber.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stig
Err?Quote:
Originally Posted by Andres
I'm sure Caius accounted for the possibility when he included his map system.
Unvote: Killfr3nzy
Vote: Andres
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Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
As quilty as Orb and KhaanQuote:
Stig, what do you think about Roadkill?
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Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
I don't understand your vote. Did I say something wrong? Wouldn't it be a bit unbalanced and unfair if all townies could just go to the restaurant and watch the mafia killing somebody? It wouldn't make any sense.
First of all, let me reiterate: I'm sure that Caius accounted for this possibility when he was setting up the game. Therefore, in his eyes it's not unbalanced.
I voted for you because you're against the strategy for a weak reason, which makes me think that you're more likely to be mafia and really don't want this implemented.
*sighs* Stig, there cannot be 3 mafiosi, Caius stated on page 4, in response to confusion over the lack of kills, that there was 2. Please pay attention, I'm getting tired of correcting you. Me, Orb, and Roadkill cannot possibly all be 'quilty', as you put it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Garcilaso de la Vega el Inca
Where exactly did I say I was against this strategy? I questioned the possibility and doubted that the host meant his game to be played that way.Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
Who saw Orb at the restaurant? And apparantly, WH was in the restaurant as well?Quote:
Originally Posted by greaterkhaan
I saw you, you saw me, but we didn't see Roadkill. Did you see Orb or WH. I for one only saw you.
Last night, I went back to the restaurant, and me and Orb saw each other.
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Originally Posted by Andres
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Wouldn't it be a bit unbalanced and unfair if all townies could just go to the restaurant and watch the mafia killing somebody?
:rolleyes:Quote:
It wouldn't make any sense.
Clever ploy possible... I'll watch and see.
IIRC Seamus has to be lynched. Thats right?
It's Roadkill I believe.
Current Tally:
Andres = 1 (General Hankerchief)
Orb = 1 (Stig)
Roadkill = 3 (Andres, G'khaan, Horus)
Seamus = 1 (Beefy)
Thank you Seamus, I was going to lynch you due to my idiotness.
Execution coming up.
I thought you were doing so just on "general principles." :devilish:Quote:
Originally Posted by Garcilaso de la Vega el Inca
Adios RK.
Suicide: RoadKill
Good job town stupid lynch. First you lynch the medic now another townie.
Chill friend, it be just a game.Quote:
Originally Posted by RoadKill
Most of us have BTDT too.
IIRC you were all for lynching the medic Roadkill. Just an odd observation but thats two townies in a row to suicide. Roadkill made his obvious but I decided to just unvote orb so I had the majority of the votes.
RoadKill suicided after everone could see him die being hanged!
He shot himself in the head.
Now he lies dead in the local plaza, and some people started to cry as seeing this guy dead in the floor.
Alive:
Stig
shlin28
Andres
greaterkhaan
Ichigo
Warmaster Horus
GeneralHankerchief
TwilightBlade
Killfr3nzy
pevergreen
Sarathos
Seamus Fermanagh
CountArach
Beefy182
Orb
Lynched:
woad&fangs
Killed:
Sasaki Kojiro
Suicided:
RoadKill
Wait...he was hung then shot himself in the head?Quote:
RoadKill suicided after everone could see him die being hanged!
He shot himself in the head.
what kind of people lets people who are about to be hanged carry shot guns?
RIP Roadkill (if he was innocent)