The Secret Formula [Concluded]

Seriously, whats so suspicious about me putting a vote on Ichigo? He voted for No Lynch, which was pointless in my opinion, as the Abstain option was better, and by voting No Lynch, it would never change the course of the game, as two people are not gonna appear suddenly and vote No Lynch. It would be better to vote for someone like CountArach or Roadkill, at least that would achieve something, no lynch does nothing.

And some of his posts:

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Vote:Ichigo He's a scummy bas...Oh wait Unvote:Ichigo, Vote:Sasaki He's always scummy

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Nothing useful, since this vote was tradition.

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Hey look at it this way. If we all bandwagon Sasaki now we won't have to listen to his false detective reveals.

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Nothing useful still.

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You're scared of Sasaki. tsk tsk

If you bandwagon him he is no threat.

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Unvote:Sasaki, Vote:Zorg You have a role!!!
FoS:Andres Invisibility suspiciously scummy. :bounce:

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Trying to nail it on a newbie, did Zorg actually do anything?

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You wasted a lot of time with those PM's. If you're going to post it in the thread then seems pointless.:shrug:
@Stig: It's one vote shouldn't freak out.

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:beam: This is even worse. If Andres didnt post the PMs up, the mafia could try and pretend to be a townie, since nobody would know if their townie pms were identical or not. Also, someone could try to say something like "I didnt get a pm, am i a townie?" in order to prove their innocence.

Sorry if my explaination was too long winded (I'm learning to analyse posts :yes:, I've got some vague ideas on Mafia 7 already, and will probably post them during the next day phase), and if my vote were not considered helpful, but honestly I do believe Ichigo is mafia. Should you not believe me, feel free to bandwagon me for next round.

Doesn't matter, we'll take Shlin next round. Lynching someone because he voted No Lynch.

To me No Lynch is the same as Abstaining, end of story. But you had the worst reason ever to vote someone. I'd say we bandwagon you next day.

:drama3:

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Originally Posted by shlin28

Seriously, whats so suspicious about me putting a vote on Ichigo? He voted for No Lynch, which was pointless in my opinion, as the Abstain option was better, and by voting No Lynch, it would never change the course of the game, as two people are not gonna appear suddenly and vote No Lynch. It would be better to vote for someone like CountArach or Roadkill, at least that would achieve something, no lynch does nothing.

And some of his posts:

Nothing useful, since this vote was tradition.

Nothing useful still.

:shame:

Trying to nail it on a newbie, did Zorg actually do anything?

:beam: This is even worse. If Andres didnt post the PMs up, the mafia could try and pretend to be a townie, since nobody would know if their townie pms were identical or not. Also, someone could try to say something like "I didnt get a pm, am i a townie?" in order to prove their innocence.

Sorry if my explaination was too long winded (I'm learning to analyse posts :yes:, I've got some vague ideas on Mafia 7 already, and will probably post them during the next day phase), and if my vote were not considered helpful, but honestly I do believe Ichigo is mafia. Should you not believe me, feel free to bandwagon me for next round.

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It's the first round theirs nothing of any use in the first round. How is abstain better than No Lynch? Abstain is a waste of a vote it does nothing. Have fun.

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Originally Posted by Stig

Doesn't matter, we'll take Shlin next round. Lynching someone because he voted No Lynch.

To me No Lynch is the same as Abstaining, end of story. But you had the worst reason ever to vote someone. I'd say we bandwagon you next day.

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Thats not not very nice...~:mecry:

Don't see anything scummy about shlin's action.

Voting no lynch is anti-town. So is abstaining.

You could argue that he was saving his partner. But if you look at the vote layout, any of them could have saved themselves by switching.

Ichigo: 3 (Sapi, Sasaki, Shlin28)
CountA: 2 (Brave, Hepcat)
Sasaki: 2 (Husar, W&F)
RoadKill: 2 (Enoch, Stig)
Beefy: 2 (Xdeath, Zorg)
Pever: 2 (FactionHeir, Twilight)

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Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro

Don't see anything scummy about shlin's action.

Voting no lynch is anti-town. So is abstaining.

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How is voting No Lynch anti-town?

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Originally Posted by Ichigo

How is voting No Lynch anti-town?

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Because Sasaki is scruplously sticking to his blanket belief that a snowball's chance of lynching a guilty person is better than no chance at all.

Most games, I'm with him. But here, in the first round of a game where there haven't been kills yet, and the fact that the mafia are almost impossible to lynch in Round 1 anyway, he's wrong. The mafia can easily hide in the shadows/manipulate events at their leisure. Better to just *gasp!* not lynch anyone than lynch an innocent and have it hurt us later on.

Sorry if I did anything wrong by voting Ichigo at the last minute :shame:

Well it had to be someone, and besides didn't it say that voting “no lynch” is not allowed in the rules?

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Originally Posted by Hepcat

Well it had to be someone, and besides didn't it say that voting “no lynch” is not allowed in the rules?

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Originally Posted by The great Me

Why abstain? Unvote:, Vote:Sasaki I can't vote No Lynch.

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I was not mafia, you have failed.

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Originally Posted by The Rules

Voting “no lynch” is not allowed. Posting without voting will be counted as an abstain vote.

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So yeah, Hepcat you are right.

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Because Sasaki is scruplously sticking to his blanket belief that a snowball's chance of lynching a guilty person is better than no chance at all.

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But a snowballs chance IS better than no chance at all.

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Originally Posted by CountArach

But a snowballs chance IS better than no chance at all.

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Read the second paragraph of my post.

Voting nolynch= abstain

there was 11 other people who voted abstain. and 7 other who didnt even vote.. So "He voted no lynch" cant be the reason to lynch Ichigo

Lets hope we got this lynch right..

Voting Abstain is not anti-town. You basically have 2/35 chance of lynching the right person. I consider that extremly low, so sometimes if there isn't enough evidence to lynch someone, I would rather abstain then kill a townie.

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Originally Posted by Beefy187

Lets hope we got this lynch right..

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Wouldn't count on it Beefy. With 39 people playing, we had a 5% chance of lynching a mafia member that round. By the way, we also had a 5% chance of killing the doctor or detective.

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Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief

Because Sasaki is scruplously sticking to his blanket belief that a snowball's chance of lynching a guilty person is better than no chance at all.

Most games, I'm with him. But here, in the first round of a game where there haven't been kills yet, and the fact that the mafia are almost impossible to lynch in Round 1 anyway, he's wrong. The mafia can easily hide in the shadows/manipulate events at their leisure. Better to just *gasp!* not lynch anyone than lynch an innocent and have it hurt us later on.

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First 2 kills don't give you any real information. If they are hiding in the shadows then maybe we can notice them later. You don't know that it will hurt us later on, WoG is unpredictable.

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Originally Posted by Beefy187

Voting nolynch= abstain

there was 11 other people who voted abstain. and 7 other who didnt even vote.. So "He voted no lynch" cant be the reason to lynch Ichigo

Lets hope we got this lynch right..

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Did I say it was reason to lynch him? No, but we had to lynch someone, would you have preferred everyone abstain so that it completely random who got lynched? I know this round was completely unjustified but I'm sure you prefer it this way than just someone random getting knocked off too.

nah i was talking about Shlin.No need to get paranoid about what i say just yet..:sweatdrop:

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Originally Posted by Beefy187

nah i was talking about Shlin.No need to get paranoid about what i say just yet..:sweatdrop:

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(Points at Beefy) MAFIOSO!!!!!!!!! :bounce:

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Originally Posted by Beefy187

nah i was talking about Shlin.No need to get paranoid about what i say just yet..:sweatdrop:

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I have been paranoid since signing up to this game. :inquisitive:
But at least I made it through the first round this time. :laugh4:

Vote;Brave Sir Robin
I dont think Shlin is Mafia, I also think your last post is a blatant attmept to throw any scent of suspcion off of you, even though no-one has accused you.A little to defensive with no reason to be.

To quote Sasaki in Mafia VII "What is it about the bouncy smiley that implies to certain people an air of seriousness?"

Kind of feel bad for Ichigo. He was the first to get lynched in both mafia games I participated in...

You guys all got something against strawberries dont you? You guys all think apples are cooler dont you?:inquisitive:

To tiberius: Sir Robin was calling me an mafia not Shlin.Besides its night phrase isnt it?

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Originally Posted by Beefy187

To tiberius: Sir Robin was calling me an mafia not Shlin.Besides its night phrase isnt it?

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Yeah that's what I was thinking, it's the night phase so there is no voting.
Was I the only one who understood the rules? :sweatdrop:

When do we find out if the lynch was correct?

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Originally Posted by Jubal_Barca

When do we find out if the lynch was correct?

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When the game ends...

There might be a small, hidden clue in the write-up of a lynch or a killing of a player with a special role, but it won't be very obvious.

Are you already starting to feel the paranoia?

:devil:

Ohhh time to re-read the lynch scene

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Well...it kind of suggests he was guilty, but then that's what the scene is supposed to convey...Ichigo said afterwards that he was a townie though.

You cant really trust what the person lynched said (Which i realised in the other mafia) because he/she might be protecting their partner

I knew my vote doesnt count, just simply putting my feelings out there.

Night 2 : Sniffing and blowing. And a delicious meal…

That night, pevergreen sat in his tent. It was cold. He felt horrible. The cruel murders, the screaming during the lynching, the obviously sadistic captain. Why did he accept this job?

“Hey buddy.” pevergreen looked up and saw one of his colleagues, a raven-haired, somewhat pale guy.

“You look unhappy, maybe I can cheer you up?”, the Mafioso said and he took a tiny plastic bag filled with some white powder out of his pocket.

“What’s that?”, pevergreen asked, curious now.

“It’s snow my friend.”

“Snow? How will snow cheer up my day? We have plenty of snow here, why are you carrying an additional little package of…”

The Mafioso sighed. “Snow, that’s how people call ‘cocaine’ in my region.”

“Oh! Well, I never tried it and it seems like we are all going to die anyway, so I’ll play along. Hand the white stuff over buddy.”

“Here you go!”

pevergreen sniffed the generous white line. After a few seconds, he realised his mistake. He tried to breathe, but the white asbestos in his lungs prevented this.

The Mafioso left the tent, leaving pevergreen to suffocate to dead…




Sigurd Fafnesbane was patrolling the tunnels. He was deep inside the mountain and felt safe.

“Ha!” he yelled against the darkness, “That remaining mafia bastard won’t come over here soon. You can still smell the fear of his lynched buddy.” Although the majority of the mercenaries disapproved of their captains’ unusual methods, Sigurd kinda liked the no nonsense approach of his boss. And he believed in democracy. According to him, democracy could never fail.

At the end of the tunnel he saw one of his colleagues. Sigurd wondered what this guy was doing here.

“You like blowing?” his colleague asked.

“No, not for me. I despise illegal drugs and people who use them.”

“I meant blowing, my friend,” the man continued with a sinister voice.

“Hey, I already told you, no illegal drugs for me. Too many young people die from it.”

“Yes, you will die from blowing…”

“Like I said, not me, I don’t use…”

“Blowing, like in “blowing up” “. The Mafioso laughed hysterically when the explosives went off. The tunnel collapsed, crushing the remains of the blown up Sigurd.



Tiberius of the Drake felt miserably. He went to the kitchen for a beer. He never drinks alcohol, but this night, he felt like he could use it.

He stood in front of the fridge, enjoying the Leffe. Having a Belgian captain certainly has benefits….

Out of the dark, someone whispered: “Tiberiusssssss, are you hungrrrrry too?”

Before Tiberius could respond, he felt a knife running up the back of his spine before it buried itself in his neck.

“Oh, Tiberiussssssssss, you will be tasssssty.”

A few ours later, the strange man left the kitchen, leaving behind a severely mutilated body and the remnants of a meal…

“Come to my ssssecrrrret placccce, darrrrling,” the man in the black cape said to the newest addition for his collection.



Day 2 : Fear

That morning, Andres woke up early. The mercenary camp seemed very excited.

Three of his best man had died that night. One of them died in a collapsing tunnel. Investigation revealed that it wasn’t an accident. The other, pevergreen, apparently a drug addict, enjoyed the wrong trip last night. The third body … Andres shivered. Tiberius’ body was found without its’ head. Next to the body, the bones of his left arm, on a plate with some sauce…

“Men,” Andres said, “The previous night, two people were killed, this night three of us died. This is getting serious. Although, I’d prefer the torture everybody approach, I have accepted that this is no longer allowed. You know what do. Vote!”

The horrified mercenaries started to debate. Their faces expressed fear, they all fell the threat. Who would be next? Who to trust? Paranoia was everywhere. This would be more difficult then they thought…


Alive (35)

Omanes
Stig
GH
Sasaki
KingWarman
Warmaster Horus
greaterkhaan
FactionHeir
Proletariat
Brave Sir Robin
Roadkill
Shlin28
woad&fangs
TwilightBlade
Killfr3nzy
Sarathos
Husar
Beefy187
gibsonsg91921
CountArach
Martok
Xdeathfire
Garcilaso
sapi
Tran
Northnovas
Xiahou
Hepcat
The Amazing Me
Enoch
Dutch_guy
Jubal Barca
Haudegen
Zain
Zorg

Lynched (1)

Ichigo

Killed (3)
Sigurd
pevergreen
Tiberius of the Drake

WoG
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It’s day. Start voting.


ANNOUNCEMENT:

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A serial killer, eh?

Interesting...

looks like the secret role is a serial killer. Also I find it interesting that this is the second game in a row where Pevergreen and Sigurd were killed in the first night phase.

Vote: shlin28

Your reasons for voting Ichigo, located here, were poorly compiled and formulated.

That is... interesting.

I had a dream last night that I was killed Round 1 and FactionHeir/Jubal Barca were the two mafiosi. This scenario didn't play out, so those two might just be innocent after all.

This list of killed is a WIFOM waiting to happen, so I won't spend too much time deliberating on it (I already tried and it hurts my head and that's not good early in the morning). So:

Vote: KingWarman

Let's hear your thoughts.

Tiberius of the Drake pointed his suspicion toward Brave Sir Robin and was killed. By logic, Brave Sir Robin would be the mafia, since he's also a newcomer.

And Vote: Zain You seems to be lurking here, I know you're very active in other board :whip:

Two silly questions. Please define:
-FoS
-WIFOM

And as for 3 kills....it looks like this game might be a really short one...

Finger of Suspicion - you think they are scummy
Wine in front of me - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUee1WvtQZU

Killing me again. Hmmm. Idiots.

To quote a friend. "Stay Clean"

Thanks ~:)

The princess bride is a great movie. I really have to watch it again some time. The WIFOM involved with the two mafia kills is overwhelming and makes my head hurt. Vote: Sasaki A hunch.

Quite funny. I guess once we find out who was mafia in Mafia VII many will call for them to be lynched here as well.:juggle2:

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Tiberius of the Drake pointed his suspicion toward Brave Sir Robin and was killed. By logic, Brave Sir Robin would be the mafia, since he's also a newcomer.

And Vote: Zain You seems to be lurking here, I know you're very active in other board :whip:

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You might want to look even closer though the logic in your first sentence is flawed. Also note that it's a bit weird to say that logically someone is guilty and then vote for someone else.:inquisitive:

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Originally Posted by Husar

Quite funny. I guess once we find out who was mafia in Mafia VII many will call for them to be lynched here as well.:juggle2:



You might want to look even closer though the logic in your first sentence is flawed. Also note that it's a bit weird to say that logically someone is guilty and then vote for someone else.:inquisitive:

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How is it flawed, exactly? Also, I just put pressure vote on Zain.

Yeah, but it's more helpful to the town if you vote for someone who's guilty than if you vote for someone who's inactive.

He might be a lurking Mafia though I guess....(back to my previous theory)

Vote: Shlin, as I said

Let's "hope" the secret role is a serial killer. If he's a vigilante he just made his first mistake.

Really really want to bandwagon on shlin for his killing of Ichigo, but I will resist for now

Vote: Garcilaso

What are your thoughts on what has happened so far?

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You're asking him to prove a negative. That's bad logic. I don't like bad logic.

Vote:CountArach

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I don't like this post. Surely wasn't it pretty clear that, in the early phase of voting, that its impossible to prove anything? Thus it was clear that CA was joking. This seems to me like either a relatively inexperienced mafioso trying to get an easy lynch, or else, a mafioso who knows what he's doing, but is trying to get people who are inexperienced to follow him for the easy lynch.

Vote: Brave_Sir_Robin

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Originally Posted by woad&fangs

looks like the secret role is a serial killer. Also I find it interesting that this is the second game in a row where Pevergreen and Sigurd were killed in the first night phase.

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Care to explain why you know the secret role is a serial killer, and why your so sure of yourself. Because for me its sure sounding like a cannibal from the things he or she is saying.

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Originally Posted by Xdeathfire

Really really want to bandwagon on shlin for his killing of Ichigo, but I will resist for now

Vote: Garcilaso

What are your thoughts on what has happened so far?

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Not much had going on here, shilin have made us lynching Ichigo with a poor reasoning.

Thats why, I'm voting right now

Vote:shlin28

Anyway, shilin, dont try to "victimizate yourself" like this post:

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Sorry if I did anything wrong by voting Ichigo at the last minute

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I was just trying to break the tie... who would you liked for me to vote for if Ichigo is so innocent?

CountArach? Sasaki? Roadkill? Beefy? Pever? If I voted for anyone of them I would still get blamed now.

I tj=hink I know what the secret role is now :crying:

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How is it flawed, exactly?

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The real killer could try to frame him. I know that because Sigurd died as well and voted for me on day 1.

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Care to explain why you know the secret role is a serial killer, and why your so sure of yourself. Because for me its sure sounding like a cannibal from the things he or she is saying.

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A cannibal would basically be a serial killer under a different name. There shouldn't be any difference between their objectives - to kill everybody, including the mafia.

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I was just trying to break the tie... who would you liked for me to vote for if Ichigo is so innocent?

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That's a different explanation than the one you gave earlier.

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Why is the second part of your post first typed in a texteditor?


Your reason for voting Ichigo was bull, as a proper townie, you shouldn't be scared to die (they say).

Cos I copied the names from the tally...

Vote me if you want, I dont mind :shame: Vote: Shlin28

BTW, I still think TwilightBlade is suspicious.

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BTW, I still think TwilightBlade is suspicious.

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Now, this is suspicious. If you die, why you are trying to 'throw ****' to someone?

Where is that post about your suspiction?

Voting yourself is scummy

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Now, this is suspicious. If you die, why you are trying to 'throw ****' to someone?

Where is that post about your suspiction?

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https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...&postcount=143

Gah, can't I do anything right? I vote someone, someone says I'm scummy, I explain, someone says I'm scummy, I resign to the fact that I'm gonna get lynched, someone says I'm scummy...

mafia are extremely cold killing pever and Sigurd.

Andres@Mafia two kills per night no matter what?

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Gah, can't I do anything right? I vote someone, someone says I'm scummy, I explain, someone says I'm scummy, I resign to the fact that I'm gonna get lynched, someone says I'm scummy...

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I know, it's the way mafia games work, once you have two or three people who think you're suspicious, you're as good as dead, no matter what you do.:laugh4:

On a hunch I have, vote;woad&fangs

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Care to explain why you know the secret role is a serial killer, and why your so sure of yourself. Because for me its sure sounding like a cannibal from the things he or she is saying.

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Omanes explained my reasoning just fine but what I'm curious about is why you're targeting me. sapi said he thought there was a serial killer in the post directly above mine but you aren't going after him. Are you hoping I have a protown role and I'll completely implode under accusations and get myself lynched like I have the last few games. If that's the case it sounds very scummy [Bunvote: Sasaki]vote: Roadkill[/B]

I don't understand why Schlin voting for himself is scummy. The only times I've seen people vote for themselves they turned out to be innocent.

Edit: forgot to unvote Sasaki

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Originally Posted by Jubal_Barca

On a hunch I have, vote;woad&fangs

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care to explain this hunch.

https://img515.imageshack.us/img515/2158/bumpav6.jpg

Discussion seems to have died. A bump for you all.

I dislike Jubal_Barca's attitude to the game - short posts, containing nothing substantial other than basic unexplained "hunches". As far as I know, being the mafia professional which you claim to be, you ought to know better than to behave in this way. Perhaps it is time to talk about these ideas which you may have and what evidence they are based on.

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On a hunch I have, vote;woad&fangs

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While I can understand that you perhaps are short on time, could you please tell us your thoughts on proceedings so far?

As to my thoughts on the game to this point, I have to say that shlin seems to be dodging bullets. His more recent posts are becoming more and more evasive. I think this is a sign of being scummy.

Vote:shlin

Vote:SAsaki!!

I'll vote: Jubal Barca
Please, do explain. I'm just pressuring you slightly.

I doubt that the mafia would put a vote on someone for a hunch. Theyll probebly be neutral, statistic or bandwagonning.

At least one of the mafia should be the same fellow from the mafia VII and if that is so the mafia is pretty cunning. Its just my guess though. It also could be not very experienced player reading the mafia VII thread trying to frame possible suspect like poor old beefy.

For now ill say
Vote: Zorg

He is capable to do this kind of nasty tactic. Although his a new comer I cannot underestimate what he is capable of. And I dont want to vote for Shlin

Why wouldn't you want to vote for shiln. I would watch my wording if I were you.

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Why wouldn't you want to vote for shiln. I would watch my wording if I were you.

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Maybe because its mafia. Maybe he is covering his buddy.

1. to give mafia what they want; me dead.. (just joking)

I dont want to lynch shlin because

1. I feel sympathy to anyone who is getting bandwagonned

2. Although he is using classical mafia tactic I can understand why he is reacting that way (I do it too sometimes)

3. Something tells me that his not mafia

4. Because everyones reasoning isnt that great (He killed Ichigo!! Gasp!! Lynch him!!)

5. To create more discussion and hoping if mafia gets tricked.. (hey already got two very paranoid townies.) talk townies

6. Zorgy voted for me.. So i need to return my favour

7. I dont like champions. I dont like prime suspects. I always like a bit of twist. Shlin is our most loved suspect so im not going for him.

8. so therefore Im not really passionate about lynching Shlin. You fellas are way more experienced then me so you probebly know lot more then me. So i dont mind Shlin getting lynched as long as theres logic behind it. Just think carefully before you vote for him.

Im guessing im getting lynched for this...:beam:

For some reason, none of those reasons made any sense Beefy.

Yea i figured that.. Lemme sumurise what im trying to say.

Shlin had a fairly valid reason to kill off Ichigo.

Thats enough for me to believe that his innocent.

lousy reasons from beefy but not suspicious ones in my opinion.

Wierd.. I thought normal townie would want to lynch me for being strange. I find your post trying to be neutral suspecious somehow. What makes you think that im innocent?

I believe your just being a lousy townie. I won't try to lynch a person I believe to be a townie no matter how bad they are playing.

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Wierd.. I thought normal townie would want to lynch me for being strange. I find your post trying to be neutral suspecious somehow. What makes you think that im innocent?

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Okay you and woad&fangs are up to something, it almost seems you guys are acting this out. Vote:Beefy187 you reek of mafia.

Edit: Fos:Woad&fangs