Oh, I'm not interested in a long wait, I'll probably have to scale back my involvement (hopefully not to zero this time) in roughly two months' time. TC, feel free to recruit that general whenever you can.
Gibson, yes, I am glad to see that the von Kastiliens are completely to blame for Franconia's recent decrease in power. I'm sure Dieter Bresch will rescue the Duchy... if he lives.
Oh, and on what is perhaps a completely irrelevant note, we don't really need an in-game insane trait to descend into madness, do we? Just a curiosity.
12-09-2007, 02:09
AussieGiant
Re: Out of character thread XVII
Welcome back FLYdude...
...naa just go completely mental, you don't really need a reason.
Ituralde went banana's to start the crisis so that's a good place to start.
12-09-2007, 03:54
Zim
Re: Out of character thread XVII
Quote:
Originally Posted by deguerra
correction, I believe you meant the little wheat designs on your town shields which has been so lovingly added to my new coat of arms which is the coolest ever seen by man.
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
:clown: arrognat? me?
But of course, it is the coolness of the wheat designs that make him jealous. All hail the wheat! :clown:
Tristan,
Not only are you doing well in a very difficult situation in the Teutonic game, but Of the four factions intent on destroying eachother in the Crusader game, you're the only one to make any decent territorial gains. I tip my hat to you. :bow:
My tactic in the Crusader game has had the advantage of being crazy enough to be completely unexpected. Were I to try it again I doubt it would prove so effective.
12-09-2007, 06:35
gibsonsg91921
Re: Out of character thread XVII
decrease in power? aside from austria, we were the most unscathed of the cataclysm. peter wields more authority than ever, and we're driving back our enemies!
12-09-2007, 09:17
AussieGiant
Re: Out of character thread XVII
Hi there everyone.
Just to let you know I'll be heading back home early from Japan.
I'll be updating the active duty list Monday late afternoon GMT +1
OverKnight, if anything happens in the mean time you know the rules of engagement for Arnold :2thumbsup:
Hope everyone had/has/or is having a good weekend.
12-09-2007, 09:39
OverKnight
Re: Out of character thread XVII
Quote:
Originally Posted by AussieGiant
OverKnight, if anything happens in the mean time you know the rules of engagement for Arnold :2thumbsup:
Give puppies to the captives and let them go?
No wait. . .
Crush? Check.
Kill? Check.
Destroy? Check.
I think I can handle that. :2thumbsup:
12-09-2007, 09:48
AussieGiant
Re: Out of character thread XVII
Quote:
Originally Posted by OverKnight
Give puppies to the captives and let them go?
No wait. . .
Crush? Check.
Kill? Check.
Destroy? Check.
I think I can handle that. :2thumbsup:
The puppies can be given out...I have no problem with that.
You just have to choose between hand them out before or after the crush, kill, destroy part. :beam:
12-09-2007, 11:50
Privateerkev
Re: Out of character thread XVII
Quote:
Originally Posted by AussieGiant
The puppies can be given out...I have no problem with that.
You just have to choose between hand them out before or after the crush, kill, destroy part. :beam:
Will Arnold kill the puppies too? Or will they spared so they can live a lifetime of service to their dead masters?
:clown:
12-09-2007, 13:56
Ferret
Re: Out of character thread XVII
Quote:
Originally Posted by FLYdude
Gibson, yes, I am glad to see that the von Kastiliens are completely to blame for Franconia's recent decrease in power. I'm sure Dieter Bresch will rescue the Duchy... if he lives.
I'll try my best :2thumbsup:
Soon there will only be von Hamburgs left anyway as when/if Dieter becomes Duke he is going to make it law that everyone in the House has to change their name to von Hamburg...or else :clown:
12-09-2007, 15:22
Ramses II CP
Re: Out of character thread XVII
Hah! I think Fritz would be only too happy to change his name to von Hamburg and become Count of Hamburg. Then he could steal Jan's son and raise him as his own. :smash:
:egypt:
12-09-2007, 16:54
TinCow
Re: Out of character thread XVII
There are still a few more hours left on the time limit, but I have received most of the orders, so I will post the initial battle list. Also, I have not yet received orders for the following people:
Athalwolf von Salza (Warluster) Ehrhart Ruppel (FactionHeir) - Orders Received Maximillian von Hapsburg (Ignoramus) Tancred von Tyrolia (Dutch_guy) - Will be using default orders. Fredericus Erlach (Stuperman) - Orders Received
Battles Pending:
Karl Zirn (Northnovas) and Elberhard (econ21):
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
Elberhard has marched east to relieve the siege of Zagreb. Karl Zirn stands ready to march out and attack the besieging Poles.
The two of you can decide which army will initiate the battle and which player will fight it.
Edmund Becker (Cecil XIX) and Lorenz Zirn (Roadkill):
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
Lorenz Zirn has marched north to aid Prague and Edmund Becker stands ready to sally forth and break the siege of his city.
As I understand it, Roadkill cannot fight battles. If this is true, the attack must be initiated through a sally by Edmund Becker and it must be fought by Cecil XIX.
Dieter von Kassel (Mini Econ):
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
You have advanced on Palermo and stand ready to batter your way in with your Bombards. It would be wise to conserve the ammunition of those artillery pieces, as you have no other way to breach the citadel's defenses. If you run out of ammunition before breaching the third wall, you will be defeated.
Fritz von Kastilien (Ramses II CP):
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
You recruited 2 regiments each of Mercenary Spearmen and Mercenary Pavise Crossbowmen. You then took these units, along with your Bombard, Ribault, Longbowmen, another Mercenary Pavise Crossbowmen, two regiments of Militia Crossbowmen, two regiments of Forlorn Hope, and a regiment of Spear Militia and marched south towards the Danish armies. Along the way, you met up with reinforcements donated by Peter von Kastilien. They number three regiments of Militia Crossbowmen, one regiment of Mercenary Spearmen, one regiment of Merchant Cavalry Militia, and one regiment of Mounted Sergeants.
You stand ready to attack the Danes across the bridge. You may not use a night attack.
Note: The orders received from both you and gibsonsg91921 indicated that Peter would give you his Mailed Knights. However, Peter does not have any Mailed Knights. I assumed you were both mistaken and meant the Mounted Sergeants, since that was the only unit that seemed to fit the bill. However, these are significantly weaker than Mailed Knights, so I have done some extra things to give you a bit more flexibility. First, I brought Fritz's Merchant Cavalry Militia with him and merged it with Peter's Merchant Cavalry Militia, so that the unit is at full strength. (Extra men went back to Hamburg) Second, I brought the Albanian cavalry south and placed it adjacent to Fritz. If you want to substitute it for one of your other units, you may do so before the battle. Just make sure that you do not bring more than 20 units with you to the battle.
Peter von Kastilien (gibsonsg91921):
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
You have ridden close to the bridge where your brother Fritz is about the attack the Danes. You may join him in the attack, attack when he is finished (if the Danes are still alive), or not attack at all. The choice is yours.
I have regained access to MTW2 Tincow, but I'm confused if we both have acsess then who will be fighting the battle me or Edmund?
12-09-2007, 17:35
TinCow
Re: Out of character thread XVII
That's up to you two to decide.
12-09-2007, 18:27
Ramses II CP
Re: Out of character thread XVII
I'm probably going to switch out the Merchant cavalry militia. I'd intended to use the Albanians anyway; I really dislike using units like the Merch cav that have such low morale. I worry that they'll rout from something silly and cause a chain.
Mounted Sarges should be fine, unless things go horribly wrong the cavalry is only going to be used to chase routers and prevent a rally. If things go wrong, Mounted Knights wouldn't turn the tide. :laugh4:
Football is about to start so I don't think I can play now, but if the games turn south I might try if no one else has snagged the save. Otherwise I should be able to do it tonight.
:egypt:
12-09-2007, 19:21
Cecil XIX
Re: Out of character thread XVII
Since it's my city, I would like to fight the battle. Hopefully I'll be able to do it in a few hours, after I get some work done.
12-09-2007, 22:17
Ramses II CP
Re: Out of character thread XVII
Alright, the Raiders are down big, game over, taking the save.
:egypt:
12-09-2007, 23:01
Ramses II CP
Re: Out of character thread XVII
Victory for the Reich. Unanticipated problem though, when I started the battle the Madgeburg garrison had the 'cannot retreat' icon on their face. I won, but if I'd known I almost certainly wouldn't have wanted to fight under those circumstances as it put two other player's avatars at risk. Losses were substantial, and those bloody 3 gold dismounted Huscarls wouldn't retreat even when they broke, they fought to the death. Appropriate I suppose. They mauled my spearmen and Forlorn Hope, causing more losses than all the other units combined I believe.
I'll write a battle story for it later, it was an intense fight. When I realized I couldn't bleed them, retreat and let Peter clean up, as we'd halfway planned, I got a bit heavier on the pause button. :laugh4:
:egypt: (Back to the end of the GB-Oak game, see if they put in Russel now that's it's so far out of reach)
12-09-2007, 23:06
Ferret
Re: Out of character thread XVII
I'm free!!!! :)
12-09-2007, 23:47
TinCow
Re: Out of character thread XVII
I'm glad you won. I was getting a bit worried I had overdone it on Magdeburg. There have already been far more deaths during the cataclysm than I wanted or expected. No need for any more.
12-09-2007, 23:51
Zim
Re: Out of character thread XVII
Does that mean the Byzantine armies in Outremer can be toned down? Not to improve my character's survival rate, of course, but for the good of the game. :saint:
Quote:
Originally Posted by TinCow
I'm glad you won. I was getting a bit worried I had overdone it on Magdeburg. There have already been far more deaths during the cataclysm than I wanted or expected. No need for any more.
12-09-2007, 23:52
Privateerkev
Re: Out of character thread XVII
Quote:
Originally Posted by TinCow
There have already been far more deaths during the cataclysm than I wanted or expected.
To be fair, except for Zim, the rest of us put our avatars in very dangerous situations so a high death count shouldn't be too surprising. :beam:
I was actually hoping there would be some avatar death to shake things up. I didn't think that Jan would be part of that pile of bodies but hey, it was fun! :2thumbsup:
12-10-2007, 00:39
gibsonsg91921
Re: Out of character thread XVII
HAHA that means the pack attack are the winners!
edit: and for those of you who just can't get enough role-playing but don't have the time to fully join other PBMs, hit up the Britannia Campaign Salon Thread and debate politics in an open forum regarding the Britannia Hotseat
12-10-2007, 05:10
Ramses II CP
Re: Out of character thread XVII
The battle report for Madgeburg is posted, if anyone is curious. Plenty of screenshots, and forgive the editing errors that must be present. I wanted to get it all down while the fight was still fresh in my head.
You'll see how bloody near a thing it really was. Even with the stupid AI hamstringing them those Huscarls were within seconds of breaking my spearmen. They annihilated the Forlorn Hope. If they'd broken through I would've scattered the crossbowmen and tried to charge them to death with Fritz and the Albanians, but that would've let the swordstaves cross the river unopposed. At that point it's still probably a win, but I'm forced to withdraw units and bring Dieter's army onto the field, and casualties might have easily doubled in the chaos.
If just one or two of those critical bombard shots had missed it would have been ugly for Fritz's men. And deploying the ribault at the head of the bridge was a mistake for the second wave; because those men weren't going to run they trapped the ribaults behind their line and prevented me from getting any more shots into them. I felt stupid after I did it, the ribault doesn't usually kill much, it's just a morale tool and I used it poorly against the highest morale units on the field.
Fun battle! I dread facing those full triple gold stacks. :yes:
:egypt:
12-10-2007, 05:30
OverKnight
Re: Out of character thread XVII
Excellent write up, Ramses, and well fought. :2thumbsup: You've certainly picked up where Tamur left off with Fritz.
Edit: I feel your pain about uber-stacks.
12-10-2007, 10:22
Zim
Re: Out of character thread XVII
I wouldn't mind the uberness of the stacks so much, if there weren't four or so of them within a march of Antioch. :sweatdrop:
12-10-2007, 10:51
OverKnight
Re: Out of character thread XVII
Chin up Zim, with patience, tactics and some luck, we'll put paid to them. If not, well, promotions come quickly in Outremer, if you survive. :laugh4:
12-10-2007, 16:15
Cecil XIX
Re: Out of character thread XVII
All right, I'm taking the save.
12-10-2007, 18:06
Cecil XIX
Re: Out of character thread XVII
Battle fought and uploaded. I'm not going to say how it went though, as I think it will make an great battle report which I hope to post within ten hours.
12-10-2007, 19:45
FactionHeir
Re: Out of character thread XVII
Taking save
12-10-2007, 20:09
AussieGiant
Re: Out of character thread XVII
Lots of Austrian battles I see...excellent.
I for one am for keeping those uber stacks around after the cataclysm.
Maybe not Triple Gold, but plenty of silver, armour and weapon upgrades at least.
Can you actually imagine the game if we were just a tinsy winsy bit worried about the AI?
Can you? :yes:
12-10-2007, 20:29
Privateerkev
Re: Out of character thread XVII
It would certainly help create a situation where we would be more likely to be cooperative.
That atmosphere was lacking before the cataclysm and even in the beginning of the cataclysm.
But if we OOC felt a little fear, it would help induce a "coming together" across the Reich and we'd be more likely to work together.
Or, I could be wrong and we'll keep finding reasons to have PvP battles.
:clown:
12-10-2007, 20:39
AussieGiant
Re: Out of character thread XVII
There's nothing like a common foe to unite us...
...hell we really do need to give the AI some armies that can challenge us or it will be a steam roll back to where we were before...the plague will hit...but that will on delay the inevitable in my view.
Didn't that OOC CA pass though?
12-10-2007, 20:41
Privateerkev
Re: Out of character thread XVII
Quote:
Originally Posted by AussieGiant
Didn't that OOC CA pass though?
They all passed except the one mandating half-stacks.
12-10-2007, 20:45
AussieGiant
Re: Out of character thread XVII
ha yes...I remember now.
Ok so that's good news.
My only thought was that the levy system was kind of linked to the half stack concept that Econ came up with...now we have a whole bunch of levies to try and keep sorted out.
12-10-2007, 20:57
Privateerkev
Re: Out of character thread XVII
I guess now, everyone gets a levy, but house armies, AoO's, Kaiser army, Prince army, and whatever the Chancellor creates, could be full stack.
12-10-2007, 20:59
AussieGiant
Re: Out of character thread XVII
That's about the extent of it PK.
Anyway...I'm totally shattered so I'm off to be now.
Cheers everyone.
12-10-2007, 20:59
econ21
Re: Out of character thread XVII
Quote:
Originally Posted by AussieGiant
My only thought was that the levy system was kind of linked to the half stack concept that Econ came up with...now we have a whole bunch of levies to try and keep sorted out.
Yes, I think I made a mistake de-linking them in the voting. I aimed to restrict our power and ended up giving us extra units. This PBM is quite an education in politics - that's just a demonstration of the law of unintended consequences! :laugh4:
12-10-2007, 22:02
Zim
Re: Out of character thread XVII
Quote:
Originally Posted by OverKnight
Chin up Zim, with patience, tactics and some luck, we'll put paid to them. If not, well, promotions come quickly in Outremer, if you survive. :laugh4:
If you're referring to the possibility of a King Andreas, I suspect any disaster big enough to result in Matthias' death would ensure mine would be a particularly short, unpleasant reign. :clown:
Actually, although I'm in no hurry to beat General Hankerchief's record for shortlived avatars (was it GH, or am I mixing him up with someone else?), I'm pretty eager to take the fight to those Byzantines. :charge:
12-10-2007, 22:07
Privateerkev
Re: Out of character thread XVII
Well, you can become King regardless of whether Matthias lives or dies. King is basically an appointment at the whim of the Kaiser. True there needs to be a few Dukes involved in a firing decision but the Kaiser could just appoint a different King at the next Diet session.
As for short lived avatars, I think RK had a particularly short stint as Wilhelm if I recall correctly.
12-10-2007, 22:21
Zim
Re: Out of character thread XVII
Fire Matthias the Merciless, scourge of the Byzantines? Inconceivable!
Maybe I got the name wrong, I just remember someone joking on the last OOC thread that their avatars have a bad habit of dying young. :clown:
12-10-2007, 22:26
Privateerkev
Re: Out of character thread XVII
No, you were right the first time about GH. He had a very short stint as Jens Hummel. But RK's might have been even shorter.
12-10-2007, 22:55
gibsonsg91921
Re: Out of character thread XVII
RK had a short stint as Wilhelm as well as Helmut von Hamburg.
12-10-2007, 22:58
Privateerkev
Re: Out of character thread XVII
Well, with Helmut, RK took him and then gave him up. When Helmut died, he was a "spare avatar".
12-10-2007, 22:58
gibsonsg91921
Re: Out of character thread XVII
oo gotcha.
how many battles remain before the Grand Diet Session of 1340?
12-10-2007, 23:21
FactionHeir
Re: Out of character thread XVII
Battle fought and won...absolutely barely.
I had my general without a bodyguard and 20 dismounted feudal knights left at the end...
The end was a lot of micromanaging trying to get my puny force to attack the few heavy depleted missiel units that remained.
Didn't get to take too many screenshots due to being at the edge of my seat all the time.
Good I have been patiently waiting. Were breaking out tonight.
That was quite a battle there from the stats FH!
12-10-2007, 23:48
FactionHeir
Re: Out of character thread XVII
No kidding. It was probably the second most difficult battle I have ever fought.
And I thought I had lost for several minutes when I had 4 depleted footknights left fighting it out with multiple aventuriers and scotsguards in melee with everyone exhausted and me having no GBs left. With a bit of luck I managed a few lucky charges into their rear without getting Ruppel killed and routed them after 20 long minutes of skirmish at that particular point.
The reinforcement gold stack was really the worst. First they charge their lancers into my frontline (which was still in disarray after just routing the first stack), followed by regiment after regiment of dismounted chivs that wouldn't rout at all and went through my spears like a hot knife through butter.
Had to kill their captain, completely surround them when they got exhausted and then hope for a lucky charge with my GB into their rear.
What made all the difference at the start was the reinforcements being delayed until I mopped up 2 regiments of enemy archers.
If you want, I can upload a pre-battle save (where I just created my army) and fight it yourself. Its a killer.
12-11-2007, 00:19
Northnovas
Re: Out of character thread XVII
That does sound like a killer. I think it would be a good go to try the battle. I don't think I have fought anything with that kind of experience. There may also be a few other curious souls who would like to give it a try.
how many battles remain before the Grand Diet Session of 1340?
I think Econ's might be the last, although there could be a few defensive battles during the A.I.'s turn. :yes:
I'm looking forward to my first Diet. :2thumbsup:
12-11-2007, 07:40
AussieGiant
Re: Out of character thread XVII
Cecil,
Excellent battle report!! Very very very good stuff there.
12-11-2007, 07:55
OverKnight
Re: Out of character thread XVII
I think I've noticed a trend. The Chivalrous Avatars are hen pecked by their wives, while the Dread Avatars are crazy bachelors, or have wives we never hear from. I assume Lothar's Princess is locked in a tower somewhere. :laugh4:
Hmmm, something to be said for the moderating influence of the fairer sex.
12-11-2007, 09:38
Privateerkev
Re: Out of character thread XVII
Quote:
Originally Posted by OverKnight
I think I've noticed a trend. The Chivalrous Avatars are hen pecked by their wives, while the Dread Avatars are crazy bachelors, or have wives we never hear from. I assume Lothar's Princess is locked in a tower somewhere. :laugh4:
Hmmm, something to be said for the moderating influence of the fairer sex.
Pssht...
Jan was soooo not hen-pecked. :laugh4:
Elsebeth did seem to have Matthias by the short ones though. :clown:
12-11-2007, 10:12
econ21
Re: Out of character thread XVII
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zim
I think Econ's might be the last,
Mini-Econ has one still to fight.
One strange thing I noticed with my battle was that the timer was off. Is there a way to switch the timer on and off during a campaign? Previously, it's always been on.
12-11-2007, 10:15
Zim
Re: Out of character thread XVII
Quote:
Originally Posted by econ21
Mini-Econ has one still to fight.
One strange thing I noticed with my battle was that the timer was off. Is there a way to switch the timer on and off during a campaign? Previously, it's always been on.
I'm sorry, that may be my fault. I fought Jan's battle with the timer off and I can't remember if I turned it back on. You just go to the in-game menu and you can switch it in "game options".
12-11-2007, 11:53
FactionHeir
Re: Out of character thread XVII
Yeah, you can change it. I also found it strange that it was off in my battle because I remembered that the KOTR battles always had the 1hr limit.
To be fair though, it was decisive in terms of winning that battle. I think I fought for almost 3 hours (had to rest my troops on the hill, ya know :grin:)
12-11-2007, 12:07
AussieGiant
Re: Out of character thread XVII
It should be made clear that the Time should not be turned off under any circumstances!
That's part of the set up gentlemen it's not negotiable.
12-11-2007, 12:07
econ21
Re: Out of character thread XVII
I'd like people to adhere to the one hour limit - it may stop some gamey tactics and it adds a degree of urgency to the proceedings. If the battle is inconclusive, well battles often were - and there's always next time.
12-11-2007, 12:08
AussieGiant
Re: Out of character thread XVII
Nothing against FH but he was able to use that to his advantage in a very close battle which he himself admits would have alter the outcome in all likelyhood.
Gamey tactics have already been used.
12-11-2007, 12:56
TinCow
Re: Out of character thread XVII
For the record, I specifically told Zim he could turn the timer off for that one battle. He did not break the rules by doing so, he only forgot to turn it back on afterwards. I judged that it was an acceptable thing given that it was a city assault against a massively superior enemy army that had to be coordinated with an allied army. I did not want it to fail simply because of a timer and I believe I had the authority to authorize that during the Cataclysm. Given that Zim's avatar ended up dying in the process, I don't think he benefited too heavily.
12-11-2007, 13:23
econ21
Re: Out of character thread XVII
That's fine, TinCow - no worries. I'll get Mini-Econ to turn the timer back on this evening.
12-11-2007, 13:26
FactionHeir
Re: Out of character thread XVII
Quote:
Originally Posted by AussieGiant
Nothing against FH but he was able to use that to his advantage in a very close battle which he himself admits would have alter the outcome in all likelyhood.
Gamey tactics have already been used.
I noticed after a while in the battle that it was off during one of the quiet moments (i.e. first stack only had two heavily depleted missiles at the bottom and second stack was camping).
I didn't want to replay the battle though as that would have been a more unfair advantage than going over the time limit.
Still, my units weren't completely idle during that time: my cavalry was running through the enemy missiles and then the missiles of the second approaching stack until the lancers caught up.
12-11-2007, 14:20
AussieGiant
Re: Out of character thread XVII
FH,
I completely understand what you've explained. The last thing after all that hard work would be to even think about repeating.
TC,
Sorry about that. I didn't know about your instructions. If it's that detailed then I certainly have no issue with it...I suppose it's just a little unfortunate it was left off for a while.
I'm just loathed to give the us even the slightest edge. I'm totally concerned that we are simply going to pound the AI back to the stone age in record time.
Please accept my apologies if I came across too hard to either of you.
12-11-2007, 14:25
TinCow
Re: Out of character thread XVII
No need to apologize. I completely understand why people would be cautious about this and there was no way for anyone to know that I told Zim that he could do that.
12-11-2007, 14:27
AussieGiant
Re: Out of character thread XVII
Quote:
Originally Posted by TinCow
No need to apologize. I completely understand why people would be cautious about this and there was no way for anyone to know that I told Zim that he could do that.
Great,
thanks for the quick feedback TC.
12-11-2007, 14:29
OverKnight
Re: Out of character thread XVII
Maybe I'm a petty person, but I wouldn't mind smacking the hell out of the AI for a few turns after the cataclysm. Payback time! :laugh4:
How quickly we recover is debatable as well. We are running a deficit, we've lost a lot of buildings and those death stacks still exist.
12-11-2007, 14:33
AussieGiant
Re: Out of character thread XVII
Quote:
Originally Posted by OverKnight
Maybe I'm a petty person, but I wouldn't mind smacking the hell out of the AI for a few turns after the cataclysm. Payback time! :laugh4:
How quickly we recover is debatable as well. We are running a deficit, we've lost a lot of buildings and those death stacks still exist.
I agree OK,
I'm certainly looking forward to handing some of these Venetian's a little love!!
But I am also very happy to see PK confirm that Econ can throw in a few semi death stacks in for the AI the future...
There is going to be a hell of a purge in units once normal service resumes. That will make them even more dangerous if the AI has them wander near us.
12-11-2007, 14:35
FactionHeir
Re: Out of character thread XVII
Time to go an a sacking spree? I mean we are despicable already anyway :laugh4:
Nah, occupying/exterminating is probably more fun, but I think we ought to lift the CA requiring an edict to take/retake a settlement and to need a CA to incorporate a region into the empire. We probably want to eliminate the main enemy factions that have attacked us during the cataclysm and then focus our attention on the aztecs (well, we probably shouldn't be sending too many people there actually, as the aztecs are quite a pushover)
The best about this massive expansion is that we won't have too many forces due to losing several in battle and the timurids and plague just about to arrive.
12-11-2007, 15:57
gibsonsg91921
Re: Out of character thread XVII
I want to kill/spay everything that isn't black or gold. Living in Chicagoland, I know how it is with the rivals.
12-11-2007, 16:02
econ21
Re: Out of character thread XVII
I thought I made a post about my battle last night with the new save, but there seems to have been an error. Sorry.
I will be picking it up again in a few hours when Mini-Econ comes to fight his battle.
12-11-2007, 16:02
Ramses II CP
Re: Out of character thread XVII
I found myself wishing the timer was on at Madgeburg when the second stack looked passive AI'd (A 'tie' without Dieter or Tancred on the field wouldn't have killed them, I think), but it was too late to alter the settings by then and I didn't want to change anything global anyway. It's a bad idea in general to play with the timer off as any map with a structure on it has the potential to break your battle via trapped routers or pinned, off map, reinforcements.
As far as the Aztecs, I have some suggestions that could make them interesting ('Accidents' at sea destroying all our gunpowder, or a disease wiping out our horses, etc.) but with their leadership problems there's really not much we can do. Their generals are always so horribly incompetent because there's nothing for them to fight and that alone can be decisive. :shrug:
:egypt:
12-11-2007, 16:43
OverKnight
Re: Out of character thread XVII
Ye gods econ21, that was a gold stack and you cut through them like butter. I guess sniping the captain helps?
12-11-2007, 17:09
TinCow
Re: Out of character thread XVII
That's an excellent battle report, Cecil. It's an amazing turn of events in a battle that you seemed to be winning. I'm looking forward to part two.
12-11-2007, 17:18
econ21
Re: Out of character thread XVII
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Originally Posted by OverKnight
Ye gods econ21, that was a gold stack and you cut through them like butter. I guess sniping the captain helps?
Twas a lucky shot, but a conscious strategy to go for their general to try to offset their sky high morale.
I might have considered it a gamey tactic, but I read in Medieval Warfare Sourcebook that locating and destroying the enemy general was the main battle tactic of Ottoman armies. Makes sense to me - sort of like how modern warfare always begins by bombing the enemy's command and control.
There was an intervening period when warfare was more chivalrous - I recall the story of British gunners at Waterloo spotting Napoleon parading before his army and asking Wellington permission to shoot. Wellington was appalled at the idea: "Leaders of armies have better things to do than fire at each other!"
12-11-2007, 17:39
Ramses II CP
Re: Out of character thread XVII
That was a brilliant victory Econ; I can't make out how your lines hit from the screenshots but you must've been on every side of the gold buggers to make them crack like that, even down a general. As far as aiming for their captain, it's just the smart thing to do, especially when the AI does nothing to guard him. I'm going to have to try this battle and FH's later, they both look like good fun.
Very interesting report Cecil! Becker's lack of aggression looked very nearly fatal there.
:egypt:
12-11-2007, 18:13
Stuperman
Re: Out of character thread XVII
Thise Battle reports are both very good, congrats econ and cecil
12-11-2007, 18:53
Privateerkev
Re: Out of character thread XVII
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Originally Posted by AussieGiant
But I am also very happy to see PK confirm that Econ can throw in a few semi death stacks in for the AI the future...
*kevin wakes up*
What did I confirm?
*sleepy*
:coffeenews:
12-11-2007, 18:59
FactionHeir
Re: Out of character thread XVII
Econ: Are you running some other mod too while playing KOTR? The flags in the background don't look vanilla to me.
I think the worst gold stacks are those that have units with high base morale (like western DCK and scots guard, which have 11 morale and are highly trained)
12-11-2007, 19:06
Ramses II CP
Re: Out of character thread XVII
If anyone else wants to get their opposition to the unification bit on record via Fritz's proclamation, now's the time. I intend it to be widely published in multiple languages by the time of the Diet session. It can be seen here:
I'm sure Tancred would sign it, but without specific permission I don't want to put any names down. Also, FYI, it isn't meant to have any larger meaning and it's not some kind of political trap, it just seemed like an okay IC justification for the end of the Cataclysm and the 'stepping down' of our enemies.
