What settlement is it? Minsk?
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What settlement is it? Minsk?
Lida, you're still a couple turns from Minsk, although I'm pushing you straight east towards it. Would you rather skip other settlements on the way? I thought it might be dangerous to g deep into Lithuanian territory without taking the settlements.
The Finger of Accusation has been pointed in the Council.
Riga, hey? If that's lost it will be quite a fury for us Livonians. Imagine the Council thread... I'm going to write up a story for the Stories Thread soon, it needs filling.
well its not part of Prussia, waluster. you can hardly blame this one on me :clown:
Darn it, there goes Plan A. Don't worry, I can blame this on someone *cough*HochMeister *cough*:drama3: :joker:
Well, guys, I'm out of here for a few houre. Either Gibson or EF (or both) can play their battles, and I'll continue it after they're done. :yes:
3 more turns until the next Schatzmeister.
hmmm who is inside Riga? If there is just a small garrison then I will risk it falling and besiege as soon as reinforcements arrive.
I think it is fairly small at best. Between them and your army, you should have an equal number of units to the Novgorodan army. With extra men from Rupert's army(half of which was going to you by right anyway), you'll have far more men than them. :yes:
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Originally Posted by Elite Ferret
I think I'll wait then, ummmm there was a small mutiny which delayed Maximilian for the tiem being :clown: it should be sorted out by next year.
That's fine. :yes: I'll give you the best units from Rupert's forces, as befitting a Meister, and keep on the defensive with him. With Hans going full out on the Lithuanians, we should be able to keep expanding in the meantime. Eventually, we'll talk expansion against Novgorod, depending on how quickly we want this game to go.
Yeah, keep steamrolling through. Don't go straight to Minsk if there's settlements on the way.
Uhh, my grandparents are over so I won't be able to play. Autoresolve it, please. Sorry for the delay.
Will do. Should be an easy win. :yes:
Ok, two more turns and two more battles. Gibson can assault Minsk this turn, I take it he's still indisposed, thought. EF can retake Riga, which has been occupied. I'll get the save up soon.
zim, as the high and mighty master of prussia, do i need to be submitting any build orders and telling my army of subordinates (you) where to go, what to do, and to praise god and me in the highest?
Well, money's been on the tight side, so I haven't pushed much for new build orders from you (I couldn't fulfill them anyway :clown:), but yes, you are now in control of the build orders of Marienburg. Since Rupert is Komtur of Thorn, he does build orders for that city.
You can command Rupert if you'd like, right now he's hanging back in reserve to send men to reinforce armies at both sides of the conflict. We need to hire some troops soon, but with Minsk taken and Riga retaken (both to happen this turn), we'll be good to do that next season.
Theoretically, your underlings could tell you to sod off and you can't do much aside from take away titles, but I doubt that would happen. Given Rupert's dislike of Livonia, I think he'd be happy to leave his position in the north and march down to help Prussia. :beam:
Oho! The truth comes out! The next time Dietrich wants to accuse someone, I shall remember!:idea2: :grin3:Quote:
Originally Posted by Zim
Right, off to the Council to cause some trouble!
Hey now, no metagaming! ~;p
I think it's pretty well established that the young generation of Dread-heavy Komturs isn't enamored of their rival Orders. :clown:
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Originally Posted by Warluster
Ok, I'm guessing GIbson still can't play so I autoresolved the Minsk battle (only 1 unit in it anyway). The Order is now the proud owner of Minsk.
EF, you have a chance to assault Riga now. :yes:
http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/...sade1258-1.zip
should be able to play it in about 4/5 hrs.
taking the save
triple post and won:http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/...sade1258-2.rar
Ok, I'll get my last turn today. I don't forsee any more battles my term, unless the AI does something unexpected. Our next Council should be opening up soon with elections. Who should make the thread for it?
It could be the same thread, just with a new Council Speaker opening it up. We didn't really adhere to edicts and laws this term, that could have precedents.
Zim, have an end of term report to post before we open up the next Council so we all know where we stand. Just like the territories, any adoptions, etc.
Is anyone thinking of running for Schatzmeister.
Latest save ready for perusal while we wait for the new elections.
http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/...sade1259-1.zip
I should note we have two new avatars ready, Markus Otterbach and Matthias Carolinger.
yeah, and RoadKill is Athalwolf von Essen but he isn't active here.
Its funny how many names in M2TW:K are so similar to M2TW. ALl the names we have I can remember from KOTR.
Since we're playing another German faction, they might have used the same set of names.
I wonder if there were Prussian specific names they could have added for the order?
I think there are a few more Polish names too, right?
so should I be setting build orders etc for Prussia myself, or telling the new Schatzmeister to do so?
You tell the new Schatzmeister and he sets them.
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Originally Posted by deguerra
And any of your men that are Komturs set their own settlements.
Alright, Rupert wins by default it seems. :beam: I'm waiting for my wireless to get back up (it's fickle sometimes :clown: ) then I have a lot of game things to do. I'll get the next turn started tonight. Warluster, I assume you're able to play battles now? I'll try to get you on some of the action with Novgorod, maybe with Rupert's army. Be warned, the best of it went to Maximillian so it's large but not great yet. I'll reinforce from Windau or something.
EF and Gibson, I'll be moving you to take out the Lithuanians if that's ok. I think I need build queues again, I'll put up the save when my wireless gets back on tonight, so you can look at it.
I should have an IC post in the Council thread in a bit detailing my plans.
build whatever you want, I'd only make your job harder by saying. As for battles, the more the merrier.
:thumbsup: Sounds good. Anyone else? I'm going to start the turn today, orders or no orders. :yes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Elite Ferret
focus on economy in Minsk, thats all.
Sorry for the wait guys. The weather has been bad where I'm at and my wireless connection has been off the past few days. It took me half an hour to upload that KOTR save yesterday.
I'm going to forge ahead and take the turn tonight. If the wireless is still out, I can upload the save after everyone else in my house is asleep (luckily, I'm a night owl).
Sorry again. Normally this doesn't happen. :sweatdrop:
It's cool. I can't blame you for the weather. We want to keep the momentum up - keep 'er going.
I'm sorry about the even further lateness. Some rather odd family things occurred last night. Good news is the wireless is up making uploading the save easy, so I'll get a turn done right now.
Alright, another turn done. No battles for anyone but me this turn, and I was forced into it. Denmark besieged one of our northern territories, and only Rupert could reach it. If we were playing EU3, I'd say we're entering into the badboy wars you get if you take too many provinces too quickly. :clown: Dietrich is now in command of a solid half stack, Maximillian is sieging Vilnius, Lithuania's capital and settlement of decent size. Hans is still in Minsk. The Mongols are puttering around there, and I'd like him to watch out for them.
I'll fight the battle today, and should have a siege assault (or field battle if they relieve) for EF tomorrow.
I've learned something from this. I'd be a really bad Chancellor in KOTR. I'm just stretched too thin because I'm involved in so many MP games (and an EU3 aar). This won't affect this game, but it's something for me to remember next KOTR Diet.
what about karl? its time I get more into this
I was thinking Karl should babysit that village he took. :clown:
Actually, now that Hans is Hochmeister it's time to build a new Prussian army for Karl.
I'm sorry, I am trying (and failing :clown: ) to make sure everybody has something to do. It's largely been Hans' game before this, so I was trying to get Maximillian and Dietrich in on things more the past couple turns. I had planned on having Rupert sit in Riga a while, then the Danes attacked. He doesn't have a proper army, just some prussian archers and pikemen from Riga. :clown:
I'll start recruiting a Prussian army in Marienburg right away. Lithuania just needs some mopping up but I think perhaps Prussian generals should lead the assault on Visby, and any assault on the Mongols or Danes in Scandinavia. :yes:
Is there a specific thing Karl would like to do? You can submit plans/orders in the Council thread. I don't think we'll need a seperate Orders thread like KOTR.
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Originally Posted by deguerra
Dont have m2tw here atm, so I didnt even know where he was. Feel free to keep him wherever he is and doing little until that Prussian army is finished. Then let him rendezvous with that.
Any particular theater you'd like him to go to after the army is complete? Lithuania is pretty much dead (more villages after Vilnius falls). A long march could take him to Novgorodan territory, or he could raid Scandinavia to get back at Denmark for attacking us. There is also a very nice rebel island city in Visby I could send him to.
good plan, take Gotland (visby). Probably don"t need a very large army for that at all.
Ok, it's 1261 now. Rupert saw off the Danish armies, although with some losses (not much fun going against viking raiders/dismounted huscarls and Norse archers with Burgher Pikemen and Prussian Archers :clown: ).
I have bad news for EF. The Lithuanian's have moved to relieve Vilnius. They have a large garrison inside reinforcing one tiny army and one very large one relieving the siege. They also have some five units of horsearchers between the two bigger armies.
Unless you're a far better player than me (not only possible but probable) I'd say this is too nasty a battle to risk it. Bleeding one of the larger armies then withdrawing might be a good idea, so they don't follow you after your withdrawal with too many men.
The good news is Dietrich is in nearby Dunaburg with a strong half stack and between the two of you the Lithuanians won't stand a chance next turn.
The save for EF.
http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/...sade1261-1.zip
Since Hans became Hochmeister and took his army with him, a new Prussian army is being recruited at Marienburg for Karl, who will be sent to take Visby, a good trading city and staging point for any future assault on the Danes.
will fight in about 5/6 hrs
edit: taking the save
didn't you learn anything from the crusades hotseat?Quote:
Originally Posted by Zim
anyway save is here:http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/...sade1261-2.rar
battle report to follow
forgot to save before popups again though
Profits: 2827
Strongest faction: Denmark
Most Advanced: us
War between the Danes and HRE
I've learned that ability with the campaign map and ability with the battles are not directly proportional. :clown: If you won the battle you did better than I could. :yes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Elite Ferret
I wonder if we should be worried about Denmark. Up until now, every turn we've been the strongest faction but one of the less advanced.
Alright, I'm taking the save and moving us forward.
Thanks for the notice on the popups. As long as I'm informed of anything important I'm not too bothered about whether you save before they come up. I consider this kind of a more casual version of KOTR. We don't need edicts to conquer territory, and since there are so few of us formal votes have been rare in the Council (at least, adding up points of influence has typically been unneccesary).
It would be good if we could get more players though. Do you think we should go 'campaigning' for more people? Or just leave it like it is? I think theres plently of players now to have a good dsicussion/ argument/ duel.
More players would be nice, Roadkill is inactive in this game although technically he's supposed to be Athalwolf von Essen. Hopefully we can get more players. Feel free to campaign if you'd like.
Alright, another year done. Currently we have the stongest military in the Baltic, but the drain of fighting three factions simultaneously is beginning to tell. Rupert fought off some Russians threatening Riga but marched north too late to save Pernau, which fell to the Danes (no general inside, so I had to autoresolve it. Not pleasant, but it adds to the challenge). It should be recaptured shortly. Karl has a small but powerful army, with siege engines, sailing to take Visby (two turns, I think). We really need the money from it to stay afloat.
This save is up for EF, who gets some revenge for that last battle. This time he has the overwhelming numbers, English knights, and a catapult to assault A Lithuanian city.
http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/...sade1264-1.zip
Gibson has a choice. A full stack of Lithuanians, remnants from EF's last battle, seem to be marching south on Lida. Hans has a half decent army in Minsk, and I queued up more men there. I also queued some in Lida, which will be hired before the castle is sieged. More men in Hrodna to the west await a general. If these armies could be combined, I'd say a relief of the future siege of Lida is possible.
taking the save
Another turn done.
http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/...sade1265-1.zip
EF, you may have another battle up. You can take the small town of Paneveszys to the north. Two very large Lithuania armies are hanging around Vilnius, I don't think you can fight one without bringing the other into battle. Maybe one can be drawn away? Cavalry reinforcements are available if you need them.
Deguerra, you are two turns away form assaulting Visby.
Gibson, that army marching on Lida move back north to guard Vilnius. You can chase them to help Maximillian, or wait in Minsk to see if the Mongols are going to attack (thry're snooping around).
Pernau has been retaken.
Hmm - I think I'll chase the Lithuanians. Mongols scare me in a siege - i want to trap them in the open field between the walls of the city and an army.
I don't think I'll have time to play this within the time limit but I'd like to, I can always use night attack to only face one you know, Max does have 7 command and the trait is automatically gained at 5 stars.
at might be a good idea, EF. Those two stacks outside of Vilnius are Lithuania's last major forces, so taking them out would make Maximillian quite the hero. ::yes:
*crickets chirping*
Am I to take it you're unable to fight the battle, EF? :clown:
Argghh sorry my internet is back up again now but I'm not sure how long for, I'll take the save and see if it is still up when I've finished.
Ok. You've got a turn up for the Grand Campaign hotseat as well, but if you're still having trouble one of your allies could play it. :yes:
well I've played both hotseats and this battle and the internet is up again so I'm hoping it will work long enough to upload the files - watch this space.
Edit:http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/...sade1265-2.rar
sorry I don't have any screenies as I couldn't trust the internet to upload them but I fought three battles:
one against their largest army, one against the little one and a final one leading to the capture of Vilnius. There is one large army left outside but it's mainly horse archers which would wipe me out in a field battle.
Sweet! Way to rebound.
Sounds good. :2thumbsup:
I shall get the next turn up today.
Good luck with the internet. I have wireless, so I have problems a lot as well...:sweatdrop:
Hey guys, sorry about the delay. Before we contine, I was wondering about something. What should we do about EF's internet problems and deguerra's going away a few weeks? With Warluster still working on getting Kingdoms, that leaves us down to two who can fight battles.
Should we take a break until these are resolved, or just forge ahead?
If we do continue, should we designate subs for the players unable to fight battles?
I believe we should take a break to rest and advertise.
Ok, I'll get together a list of the available avatars. Haven't got any new ones recently, but I think there's still 3 open or so.
I think my internet is working fine now as it hasn't been down for a few days so I should be able to play battles fine again but I'm fine with a break, it was a bit dull with rare discusion IC or OOC.
Funny, I think AussieGiant made the same complaint about KOTR. The answer was that when the Chancellor is doing his job well, there's less discussion. :clown:
I could try to prompt some discussion in the Council thread, and I'll finally get a battle report for Rupert's last battle up today.
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Originally Posted by Elite Ferret
Ok, it appears as if jsut about all participants are ready to start this up again. I will get to the next turn within the day. If there are any thoughts before I push it through, I'm happy to hear them. :yes:
With the Frozen Crusade's rebirth we may want to advertise again, I'll write up a list of available avatars.
So all edict's proposed and passed beforehand are still confirmed?
I believe so, although all I know so far is that Gibson pmed me saying everyone but deguerra has signed off on restarting. I think we will just be continuing from where we left off.