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That's low Pizzaguy...I can admit I am wrong and yet, your still trying to blame me for getting yourself lynched?Quote:
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy
You lynched yourself, plain and simple. You could have fought on and won....but instead you gave up. Now you wish you didn't. It's too late for you to do anything about it and now it's the blame game.:no:
Pizza, wouldn't you have gone after Angelo again if you didn't want to show Earthling that he was wrong?
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And don't be sure I was scum and won the game just because I posted weirdly before the lynch. Can't someone have fun with a mafioso who's about to get lynched? :beam:
Think of the frustration; getting lynched even though the townie is acting waaaaaaaaaaaaaay more suspicious than you, just because you made a silly post and then the other townie had to leave before the lynch?
Trust me, it's more satisfying to see a mafioso go down that way.
CR
I don't see why people were missing that I was only was trying to get Luigi and Luigi alone the whole time, the rest of it is minor preferences if two townies had to die, which one was better, so I did oppose some poor lynches but I think it's obvious I was focused on Luigi, right or wrong. As was widely discussed I certainly never said it was a sure thing pizza was scum, though I did say he wasn't likely to get nightkilled if he was a townie (and, well, he didn't).
This isn't going to be over until we see the quicktopic regardless of the update, I'm thinking.
What was your beef with Luigi?
CR
Okay, that took a bit longer than expected. I'll start the writeup momentarily.
The scene was almost picturesque. In a rather large town square flanked by buildings, its size magnified by its emptiness, Chief of Police JuJuBee stood on an execution platform elevated about two feet off the ground, taking the sight in. In the background, the usual buildings. The power had been restored, finally, but they still seemed empty as there was nobody inside to use them. There was nobody in the Frontroom, period. These three were it. In the foreground, the emptiness. In the more immediate foreground, the final two villagers, Crazed Rabbit and Kagemusha, staring each other down. They were not only equidistant from each other but also from the edges of JuJuBee's vision. An artist would have been proud.
The song in JuJu's head changed. While still Springsteen (and early Springsteen at that), the lyrical content couldn't have been more different. The last song was about teenagers having one last good time down by Greasy Lake before the summer ended. This one spoke of being caught up in the flood. Of madness. Of blood running through the streets. JuJu tried to get it out of his head, afraid of the implications, but, like any song you did not want in your head, trying to get it out only further ingrained it.
The two men drew their weapons, Emilio/Kagemusha a large axe that looked a lot like the old Chief of Police's, and Fat Tony/Crazed Rabbit an assault rifle. For one horrible moment JuJuBee was afraid that they would each cut each other down and he would be the only person alive in this godforsaken place that was once known as the Kingdom of Peace and Love. But the two men showed more restraint than that, only continuing to hold up their weapons of choice and slowly walk towards each other.
"Nice axe," CR said, a completely flat tone to his voice. "Where'd you get it? Beirut's old office?"
"I picked it up from Angelo's old house, scum," Kage replied in an equally flat tone. "I was going to present it to the Chief of Police as it now belongs to him, but then you had to go and shove an assault rifle in my face. An assault rifle which is most definitely in violation of the Frontroom's Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act, which makes you a mafioso."
"And how would you know?" CR asked. "You seem to be pretty well-versed about what is and isn't illegal in these parts."
Finally, someone showed some emotion. Kage laughed. "My friend, I've been here since 2006. I'm as old as this axe here." And with CR's weapon still trained upon him, Kagemusha walked over to the baffled JuJuBee (who had drawn his own gun at this point), and returned the axe to the new Chief of Police.
"Well, what do you know?" CR said, now also showing emotion. "So have I!"
The two men walked right up to each other, but did not open fire or do anything else that would be considered hostile to each other.
Instead they embraced.
Oh, *#%!.
JuJuBee's mind was running a mile a minute, trying to process the implications - all the ominous, horrible, implications - of this latest move when he noticed another pair of eyes staring at him: a rabbit, emerging through one of the buildings. Then there was another one, coming from the side. JuJuBee noticed rabbits coming out from behind cars, staring at him through windows, standing on all sides of the Frontroom square, every single one staring at him, unblinkingly. The artist's picture from before had turned into a nightmare.
Through all of this, there was one thing that the Chief of Police did not see: Kagemusha had drawn a katana.
As the rabbits started to advance, their leader, Crazed Rabbit, started monologuing. Speaking at first seemingly to the wind, he began his tirade. "See?" he cried out. "I said I would do it again, didn't I? Even without The Truth, I am victorious! The Frontroom has been utterly depopulated by my hand, again! Where so many have failed, I have now succeeded twice! My rabbits and I shall forever build our new civilization - a perfect civilization, where we fix the town and the world, and lead man- and rabbit-kind to the stars and beyond - on the corpses of not just those who have fallen here over the past eleven days, but of all of the dead mafiosi who could not do what I have done, twice now!"
The monologuing continued as CR grew more maniacal and grandiose with his words and gestures and the rabbits continued their advance. JuJuBee, at this point paralyzed with fear, did notice that Kagemusha did not have a villainous speech of his own to make. Kagemusha did not need to make a villainous speech. He too had succeeded for a second time. What else needed to be said?
JuJuBee turned and ran, surrounded on all sides by rabbits but looking for the place where their numbers were thinnest. He got precisely three steps before he was cut down by Kagemusha's katana, the final victim of his and Crazed Rabbit's reign of terror and the first Chief of Police to die in the line of duty after ten mafia attacks.
As Kage stood stoically by the Chief of Police's corpse, the rabbits moved in for good, pouncing on JuJuBee and not letting up until nothing but his clothes and bones remained. There was not even any blood on the ground.
The two now-twice successful mafiosi walked off together as the rabbits, now in undisputed control over the former Frontroom, began their work.
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Survived: (2)
Kagemusha (Emilio)
Crazed Rabbit (Fat Tony)
Wrath of God:
spL1tp3r50naL1ty (Frank)
Killed:
Winston Hughes (Chickenman)
robbiecon (Giuseppe)
Visorslash (Maria)
johnhughthom (Christopher)
issaikhaan (Furio)
Death is yonder (Carlo)
Seon (Fingers)
ELITEOFKINGWARMAN88 (Big George)
Earthling (Nick)
Csargo (Mickey)
Ashurnasirpal II (Salvatore)
B_Ray (Paulie)
White_eyes:D (Ralph)
Ignoramus (Luciano)
Romanic (Bobby)
Secura/a completely inoffensive name (Pete)
Believer/Greyblades (Fredo)
ArpeggiateTHIS (Giorgio)
Renata (Sonny)
Beefy187 (Richie)
Ibn-Khaldun (Bruno)
glyphz (Luigi)
Executed:
Jolt (Pedro)
Andres (Rocco)
Chaotix (Joe)
Sigurd (Claudia)
Centurion1 (Connie)
Diamondeye (Bugsy)
autolycus (Vincent)
Populus Romanus (Johnny)
Askthepizzaguy (Anne)
Captain Blackadder (Bertha)
TheLastDays (Angelo)
Player list:
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
Result:
TOTAL MAFIA VICTORY :smoking:
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An enormous congratulations to Crazed Rabbit and Kagemusha, who not only won Mafia for the second time as Mafia, but did so in true style, achieving the first ever Total Mafia Victory not just in the Mafia series, but in any of my games I've ever hosted. Wow!
And with this, Mafia X draws to a close. There are no fake endings, no writeups yet to be revealed. The postgame starts now. My commentary will be up in a few days, but in the meantime you can start talking about your experiences with the game and the anonymous accounts. Thanks for playing, everybody! :bow:
bam i told the town!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
A couple of immediate issues because I know people are going to ask:
No, the selections for the mafia were not random, for the first time ever. This was an anniversary game, celebrating the Gameroom's past and its future, and I wanted to bring the two together by picking the two winners as Mafia together for the most recent installment in the series. Let me reiterate exactly what they did, both now and in the past: they survived as mafia twice. To put that in perspective, of the other 16 people to play as mafiosi over the course of the series, nobody has survived once.
For this, the two of them deserve special recognition. I was going to wait until the commentary was up before posting this, but decided not to in the spur of the moment. And so, courtesy of Sigurd, for however you wish to use it:
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Congratulations gentlemen, you've more than earned it. :bow:
Total humiliation!
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Congrats to CrazedRabbit & Kagemusha:balloon2:
edit: Damn, so it actually was not random selection. Thought it was just a coincidence that both of CR & Kage were still alive after N8. lol
Hmm, earlier when I thought the scum were someone else I was going to remember to ask if the roles had been randomized but hadn't thought of it right at the end here, thanks for sharing I guess. That's still extremely disappointing in my opinion. Granted it's not just this game, there have been several others in short succession, but I'm enormously sick of that lately. Roles should be randomized and it detracts from the experience for everyone if not. It's been really lopsided and unsporting in all the recent games where invariably only the town gets a bunch of inactive or inexperienced players when the "good roles" are handpicked out for others. On top of that, then, with the town already at a disadvantage from the start, the mafia can purposefully kill off all the active townies as of course they have the kills to do it, leaving even fewer active people left.
I respect your opinion, and please know that in all of the 17+ games I've hosted here over the years, I have never once purposely assigned roles to anybody before this game, and never will again. This was a special occasion, as mentioned above. It's the 5-year anniversary of something I thought would die after a game or two, I'm allowed to be a bit indulgent. :laugh4:
Awesome! Thanks Sigurd!Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
*ahem*
Thanks to Kagemusha and GeneralHankerchief - you couldn't ask for a better mafia partner or a better host. It was loads of fun to play, especially the last round. Sorry TheLastDays, you never had a chance. :evil:
And then, of course, the town, especially those who so loudly proclaimed my innocence. :beam: Also thanks for not lynching me after the two people who most wanted me lynched got whacked.
CR
PS - one final thing. I still think my vote on Richie which started the suspicion on me was a townie move; it's what I would've done if I really was a townie. :shrug:
There was nothing wrong at all with the anonymous accounts though. I said that before when some people thought it had been an issue and I'll stress that again, it really worked very well.
Should have lynched you for blatantly breaking the 3-way tie.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit
Looking back, us, town, have been unbelievably lenient to let you live for doing that, as well, as treating Kage the same way for still being alive despite flirting w/ a WOG
shoulda, woulda, coulda...
Before I forget, thank you GH for hosting this game!
:laugh4: We've been outplayed. Looking back at the voting history, we've voted for the mafia only a few times, and were close to lynch Fat Tony only once. We deserved to lose. AFAIK only Renata made a good case on one of them (Fat Tony), when we still had chances to win, but no one of listened to her. Meh.
Congrats to Kage and CR for beating us and both remaining alive. :bow:
Thanks for the game GH, liked the writeups and how I died. :smug2:
GH, I hate you :wink:
Ah well at least my faith in the intellect of CR and Kage. No one could have genuinely believed that I was Mafia after that last round :P
Congrats to the two of you. Very well played!
Not my fault. :tongue: CR and Kage had the option of dragging things out or killing everybody left in a bloodbath on N11. They chose the former.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheLastDays
Ah doesn't matter, I hate you all anyway :P
And I hope this is understood in jest ;)
:beam: That's an awesome ending. Truly entertaining.
Now I don't feel so bad, we were willing to let Emilio go and never punish him for lurking. So it didn't matter that we also let the slippery Rabbit escape justice on a few occasions.
Very well played. Town was soundly beaten that time.
ATPG, I liked your list of the last six people alive where you had me and Kage as the least two suspicious. ~;p
CR
I did really lousy this time. In fairness to me though, they are making me work what are essentially 60 hour weeks, by moving my days off to the opposite ends of sequential weeks and making me work past my scheduled time, and my scheduled time was already at 10-11 hours per day. I didn't do any sort of serious analysis this game, just superficial stuff.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit
I really was just going to bandwagon whoever Renata or TLD chose to vote for, because I really did not have the time. I warned them of that going into the last few rounds. I trusted their analysis more than my own at the end. Renata was right about CR, and TLD was right on Emilio, albeit too late to matter.
No joke, you guys did a phenomenal job and I am not ashamed to say you pwned me and everyone else quite properly and thoroughly. Well done, congratulations, and thank you for putting on such a crowd-pleasing performance.
Kage the lurker, grrr, I'll never let you get away with that again, though. Ask Sigurd. I still hold a grudge from the Chicago Soiree.
NEVER FORGET.
I'm going to put this in the commentary, but I agree with a few of your sentiments that Day 9 (when Pizza/Anne got lynched) was the critical round for everyone. In games past it seemed like everything would start to fall apart for the bad guys; it was the start of the endgame, there was a serious effort to lynch one of the two mafiosi, and the round was extended, which more often than not means bad news for the mafia. But CR managed to escape and the town just didn't have enough gas left in the tank on Day 10.
As a comment on the anonymous accounts: I think they add an interesting flavour to the game and once a certain point was reached the activity was high and everyone was involved.
I also think this wouldn't have been possible without the anonymous accounts. I guess CR and Kage would have been lynched at some point by default ;)
Maybe not. As you'll see in the commentary, both of them (Kage in particular) have a track record of doing amazingly well in this series. Part of it might have to do with the fact that this is what gave Kagemusha's Curse its name after all. :laugh4:Quote:
Originally Posted by TheLastDays
But that said, if it wasn't for the anonymous accounts, I would at the very least have thought twice before giving those two the role. The town would've been too tempted to metagame (even more so than usual) in the endgame as opposed to what I would have wanted them to do, which is vote strictly based off of in-thread behavior.
Yep and it worked very well I think. It wasn't until the last round (where it didn't count anymore, did it? ~:pissed: ) that metagaming was a big deal. Only then people were going "Kage never lurked away as scum like this, it can't be Emilio" and such things... So the anonymous accounts did their job almost as well as the Mafia I'd say, so congrats to them too :yes:Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
Thank you CR and GH and thank you town! My first mafia victory and my first mafia game was the first one from this series and getting another, this time a total one with none other then CR, this is a honour and priviledge. My apologies for those who feel that my tactics were underhanded, but there were three folded reasons for those tactics.First it was my summer vacation, second i wanted to break out from role as very active mafioso trying to control the game and last this is a reminder to everyone that lurker can really be a deadly adversary. I will comment further when the commentary is out. Again thank you all.This was awesome!:bow:
You do realize one lurker victory as mafia is worth 10 lurker deaths as townie? Don't complain when it happens, you've earned it now, buddy. :beam:
Dont worry.Im not complaining the slightest.This might have been the sweetest mafia victory ive had.:2thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy
Don't make me comment on the lurking :P
Also, I'm 4/5 now, losing :2thumbsup:
I think next time I draw Mafia I should announce it and everyone should let me win :clown:
Some of the best times you'll ever have is knowing the backlash you're about to experience, and realizing it's not even going to bother you because you'll likely be townie when it happens, so you'll get another laugh out of it, and even if it makes you lose as mafia you still have this epic winnage under your belt.
It's like winning the super bowl. Sure, every team will be gunning for you next year, but it doesn't matter, because you've got the ring.