The Megapolis

KOM
You've mentioned size of armies I know from playing METW the one thing that spoils a battle is waiting for yor replacements to arrive, is there any way game code,engine allowing that when you've got an allie figthing the same battle that you can take command.
I haven't try it with the rebels using the cheat ".conan.",but in theory if you put two armies into the same state you will be in command of both,has any one try this and I've been missing out.
Again the pics look fantastic it will be interesting to see your stats regarding the lighter armour with longer pike Peltaste (Using a Pelti not a Hoplon). against more armour and shorter pike.
Every time I pass this forum and pay a visit your work along with the other members of the team I have to sit back and grin great work keep it comeing http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...c-thumbsup.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...s/gc-sunny.gif

Progress update, working on Dark Age units. Achilles on the way.
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Hi flip.

Fantastic work
I will send you today a frame from the new Dark age / late Mycenaean. Better and more shield types and also spears (fixed the pike size though we might just need it).

Pls don't make an Achilles ... I know it would be Great having a Hero unit for this period where the Gods interact with humans ... but MTW does not treat the hero units well. I have some test to prove it. I would rather have the DA unit ready and then make an attempt to make the Thorakites / Early Legionary or some Eastern units.

i had HTW downloads burned to cd. i attempted to put them on my MTW so as to play. i could not get it to work. any help in a more detailed way to get the program to work would be great. i do not have internet on this computer with MTW, does that matter since i just burned the downloads. again any help would be great.

Hi myces2000, welcome to the forum and our thread http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...cons/smile.gif :


Here is the guide for installing this mod from our official HTW website:


Download these three files (links at the HTW-site):

Hellenic Total War v2.1 Beta
Small patch (for ships):
Startpos fix:



Installation:

1.Use a new installation of MTW+VI.

- Then unzipp the "Beta" into the new MTW main directory.
- Unzipp the "Small patch" into the same directory.
- Unzipp the "Startpos fix" to a folder outside of the new MTW installation (rename it to HTW if you want) and copy all three files of it into your "campmap/startpos"-folder.


2. Now open your "Textures/campmap/Hellenic" folder and convert the "mapTex.jpg" and "mapTex2.jpg" to TGA format.
Use "IrfanView" for that(link above)and put the two tga´s into the same folder.


If you don´t have the English version of MTW: Open your "Loc" folder:
After you have installed all three files (Beta, Small patch and Startpos-fix) from above you get a "Eng"-folder in this Loc-folder.
Open it and copy all files from it to your language folder: As an example from the "Eng"-folder to the "German"-folder.




Patch in case of "Turning to another year bug" (crash to desktop):

This is a patch against the turning to another year bug (CTD) for HTW v2.1 Beta
This patch can protect your HTW version against the CTD bug.

BUT please, don´t install it, if you don´t have the turning to another year problem
If you had CTD´s (crash to desktops, when you turned to another year) then install this patch to
protect your NEW campaigns against the same problem.
But only then, install it, please

Installation of the CTD patch:
Copy the "Medieval.Cfg"-file into your HTW main directory.
It protects your HTW against the CTD bug if you beginn a new campaign, but I doupt that it could heal
a damaged save-game, but try it.
You can get it with this link:

CTD-patch:http://max45.250free.com/HTW-beta_patch2.zip(Link above)


Tip:set unit size on default so don’t play this mod on large or huge settings



Now it should work.
The HTW-team


And print this guide out, so that you can read it while the installation.
Also download "Irfan View" (a image viewer) to convert the two jps (read the guide).


greetings:

Antalis

komninos wrote:

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Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] ] This will result to a battlefield Greek army of 1536 men and for the Persians 2560 men. ... though this makes me wonder ... CA was talking about 10000 men battles ???? hmmm this might be with the 200men units, 16 unit armies (3200 men total / army) and 3 faction battle ???

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CA meant that, on a 8 player LAN MP game or 8 faction custom battle, with huge unit size.

In SP Campaign, the max army size for Normal it's 960 men. For Huge unit size, it's 1920.

For LAN MP games or custom battles, the max army size for Normal it's 1600 men. For Huge unit size, it's 3200.

Therefore, the MAX for an 8 player LAN MP game or 8 faction custom battle, it's:

8*3200 = 25600 men (I know, because I've tryed it http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...s/gc-wink2.gif Veeeeeerrrrryyyyyyy SLOW http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...s/gc-sleep.gif )

For SP Campaign, without allies, it's only 2*1920 = 3840 men http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...ons/gc-cry.gif



BTW, great work you've all put in the MOD http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...c-thumbsup.gif

I´ve reworked the castles again and removed the keeps:

http://max45.250free.com/castle1.jpg

Looks Good Antalis nice work...LOS

Has there been any word on maybe when the next update will be released?

@kom:

Have you seen the thread about changing the currency?: So we could change the florins to an ancient greek currency http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...s/gc-smile.gif .

Look here:
changing the currency

That are great news.


Thank you LOS for that info (and your kind words) http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...cons/smile.gif

Progress, DA_hoplite, walk and run ready.

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http://filipeabranches.no.sapo.pt/MTW/Units/h14.jpg

Great job guys http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...c-thumbsup.gif

as a real Spartan i have to say Hellenic total war is awesome http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...ns/gc-beam.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...s/gc-smile.gif i wonder if we could try some maps in MP.. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...c-rolleyes.gif i think it would be great http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...ns/gc-beam.gif
oh and sth else: r u working on a new version of hellenic total war guys?

flip y these dark age hoplites have no shield? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...speechless.gif


great respect,
Bellerophon


malo mori quam foedari

Welcome to the ORG, Bellerophon http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...icons/wave.gif

hey Aymar http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg.../gc-happy2.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg.../gc-happy2.gif


its good to meet the mod-community http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...gc-builder.gif

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great respect,
Bellerophon

ps:cool smiles http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg.../gc-jester.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...c-thumbsup.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...ns/gc-cool.gif


MALO MORI QUAM FOEDARI

Wellcome Bellerophon http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg.../gc-party2.gif

walk, run, stand :ready

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flip my friend im impressed http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...c-thumbsup.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg.../gc-happy2.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...s/gc-grin2.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...s/gc-grin2.gif


these r the right shields http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg.../gc-jester.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...-2thumbsup.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...ns/gc-beam.gif

welldone m8,great job


ps:is this a project for troyan war? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...c-rolleyes.gif
if yes then it ll be cool
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great respect,
Bellerophon

and sth else:

will the full release of HTW have dark age?
or only 3 eras?
just give me the latest news bout HTW guys and other ancient-period concerning mods http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...s/gc-grin2.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...c-thumbsup.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg.../gc-happy2.gif

thanx in advance

great respect,
Bellerophon


MALO MORI QUAM FOEDARI

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proud member of chaos clan http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...c-thumbsup.gif Chaos Clan

are you also going to change the pictures that come with the messages at the beginning of each turn to let you know what has happened?

Hi all,

Anatalis,
Yes I started with the monetary change ... but apparently there are more files there. Thanks LoS. The new currency will be “Gold Coins” or GC.

Here is a good question ... where are the Starting formation names???? LoS any ideas.

Flip,
Those are the Octaspis. It was abandoned by the time they had armor for protection and the Boeotean was used ... try shield number 1 this is of the intermediate period and I use it for the Myrmidons too.

Bellerophon,

Yes, I will have a "starting" part of a Bronze Age HTW in the new Beta. All its units are usable with Trojan war mod but don't use them together ... I will update it too to the new standard.

In the new beta (HTW v.2.1-Beta-3) there are going to be the following periods.
1. Bronze Age - for testing and feed back on units
First Triplet - 99% ready
2. Geometric
3. Proclassical
4. Classical
Second Triplet - 70% ready
5. Peloponnesian War
6. Rise of Macedon
7. Roman Conquest

Hopefully if I get some time V.3 will come as an update. It will introduce a new map with 99 (the max) provinces

Thanks for the CTD patch. I've played previous releases of this mod with no probs until the latest version then my CTD woes started end of year custom battles etc. Since installing this patch (fingers crossed) no more CTD

This is an excellent mod and I can't wait for the next release

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Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] ]Anatalis,
Yes I started with the monetary change ... but apparently there are more files there. Thanks LoS. The new currency will be “Gold Coins” or GC.

Here is a good question ... where are the Starting formation names???? LoS any ideas.

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HI Kom, Antalis, Kom what did you mean More Files? did the change not work for you? I listed all the files I changed did you find something else? the only bits I did not bother with were in respect to Multiplayer, otherwise the changes I did are global in that they show on the campmap, in unit, building parchments and on custom battle screens, please let me know if I indeed have missed something,other then that it is working fine for me?
as to your question re:Formation Names I found this in Loc/Eng/Battle

//******************************************************
// Names of battle formations
//******************************************************
["ActionLineOfBattle"] {"Line of Battle"}
["ActionBattlesInColumn"] {"Battles in Column"}
["Action3LineAttack"] {"Three Line Attack"}
["ActionCavalryCharge"] {"Cavalry Charge"}
["ActionInfantryCharge"] {"Infantry Charge"}
["ActionScorpion"] {"Scorpion"}
["ActionEasternCavalry"] {"Eastern Cavalry"}
["ActionEastEuropeanCavalry"] {"East European Cavalry"}
["ActionSteppeEnvelopment"] {"Steppe Envelopment"}
["ActionCavalrySkirmish"] {"Cavalry Skirmish"}
["Action3LineDefense"] {"Three Line Defence"}
["ActionEasternDefense"] {"Eastern Defence"}
["ActionSquare"] {"Half Square"}
["ActionEnglish"] {"English"}
["ActionOttoman"] {"Ottoman"}

I hope it is what you are looking for.I will look inot it a bit further when I can...LOS

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We are sticky, yepee.

hi all,

thanx for info komninos(patrioth) http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...s/gc-grin2.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...ns/gc-cool.gif
a suggestion:i think u should change "proclassical" period to "archaic" period http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...s/gc-smile.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...s/gc-smile.gif (800-500B.C.)


great respect,
Bellerophon

"Ivris-Tisis-Nemesis"


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Chaos Clan

Antalis or anyone who has experiance with this. i attempted to load up hellenic total war and when i finished i got a error message stating "FN_Egyptian row 8 column 20" this was below "column_building_faction_associaton" in blue title. help, please.

I´ve noticed, that in the descriptions of the factions in the choosing of a faction before the campaign begins, the old MTW and Viking Invasion descriptions are.
So the Macedonians have the description of the irish faction and so on.

It would be good to change this, kom or maybe Rosacrux?

I love that pic. Its pic 2 of the "awaiting battle" pic: Now the enemy: http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg.../gc-happy2.gif :

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Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] (Antalis:: @ Jan. 17 2004,04:57)]I´ve noticed, that in the descriptions of the factions in the choosing of a faction before the campaign begins, the old MTW and Viking Invasion descriptions are.
So the Macedonians have the description of the irish faction and so on.

It would be good to change this, kom or maybe Rosacrux?

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Faction descriptions? Hmm... I think I can handle that ...allthough I am not extremely reliable duo to irregular workload http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg.../gc-juggle.gif (I still owe you guys several unit descriptions http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...embarassed.gif ).

OK, expect a few faction descriptions within the week. Hopefully http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...icons/wink.gif

That would be wonderful http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg.../gc-happy2.gif



Antalis http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...gc-curtain.gif

Hi all,

Well I found out that we are a sticky now and ask LoS to change the name of the thread too, HTW-Hellenic Total War Mod is a lot better than the original one.

Thanks LoS.

Some update first.
Didn't have the time I expected to have but three new units are tested and working
1. Gastraphetes
2. Lithovolos
3. Boeotean Machine

These are all raillery or better Antipersonnel weapons. 1 and 2 come at High and Late age and 3 at Early and it is only available to Boeoteans

1. Is a primitive crossbow but much heavier and bigger. The user supports it on his belly and thus the name. It was capable of inflicting damage even to heavy Infantry units. Initially built by Dionisos Dictator of Syracuse and used against the Cartesians it was quickly adopted throughout the Hellenic world. This is the first "Katapeltis" (Catapult) meaning it could be used against shield bearing troops. The name actually means against shield (kata peltis).

2. This is a stone tougher developed after the Gastraphetes. It is bigger than Gastraphetis and it needs a support. This is a very capable weapon and can cause considerable damage to any approaching unit.

3. This was first mentioned in Thukithithis. The Boeoteans used some type of flame tougher device to destroy some fortifications. It is a portable unit carried by a hoplite in to battle but it is not a long range weapon. The substance it was of acidic nature and set to fire could toast anything that came in contact with.

All these are emulated by simple infantry units. I am still searching for the best way to emulate them (in numbers) At the moment Gastraphetes has 32, Lithovolos but only 8 of them can fire (or I hope so) and Boeotean Machine has 8.

The problem with Boeotean Machine is that I wonted to have the boiling oil as a missile type weapon but still used the grenade that will do for the moment.
BTW ... Gastraphetes and Lithovolos for the moment use normal units ... till now http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...icons/wink.gif

Greetings Kom, Antalis, I thought you might like to know, LK sent me a French PC War game magazine review of NTW and it also included pieces on HTW and METW, as well screenshots also I have a scan of it , it is in French, I will send it as soon as I get back on tom. it is late here http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...s/bigthumb.gif ...LOS