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If a couple people switched we could lynch both. Sigurd is more important because don's can't be vig killed.
You told me you were totally against vig groups. Are you afraid that we might stumble on some of your henchmen?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
I did mention that keeping a contact with a Made would incriminate you. And it still does.
The FBI agent investigations on me are all a hoax and I know this because someone gave me some information on how the real FBI investigations work (and it was not from a made).
Apparently the FBI agent only has a 1/36 chance in finding a Don. If the FBI agent does a double investigation on the same player it is reduced to a 1/18 chance. In other words it would be pointless to do double investigations.
Since I know I am not a Don I must conclude that JimBob got this information from someone working for the mafia.
And since the only two players still pushing this theory is Sasaki and CR.. I must therefore also conclude that they are mafia.
And I didn't see Louis move away from his allegations that CR was a Don. Louis should publically do so for all of us to see.
Guys, can't we try for a double lynch ?
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Vote:Dutch_guy
You realise that vote was completely unnecessary considering the current tally, right?
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JimBob clearly has more than one detective contact. Look at the no of investigations.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charge
On that note:
Any news from JimBob on the reliability of his source?
Why, oh why is anyone listening to Andres' comments on voting and tallies? How many times has he lied to throw off the tally? How many times has he helped Dutch Guy successfully avoid the noose for another day? How many nights (including recently) have the Stracchi's attempted or committed murder? (every one)
Andres makes one post 'pointing out' a BKS vote for Dutch Guy, and it makes it into every tally since. BKS hasn't posted in this thread since February 6 (15 days ago). Andres has been trying to throw suspicion on BKS to divert attention from the Stracchis and using him as one of his fake votes to mess up the tally. BKS has not voted for Dutch Guy, and DG's numbers according to the current tally are at least one vote higher than they really are (so if you try for a double lynch he'll get off once again).
Please. Please take BKS off the tally. Please someone go back and double-check all the other votes to make sure Andres or others aren't continually succeeding in messing up town coordination. And please, by all means ignore Andres' 'helpful' suggestions on the tally from this point forward. There's no excuse for letting Dutch Guy survive another day.
And this, DG, is absolutely classic! :bow:
AjaxQuote:
Originally Posted by Dutch_guy
Day 7 voting selection is concluded. I will go back and establish an actual count.
Night PM's may begin, and are due no later than 1300 22 Feb 08 (1800 GMT).
More anonymous sources. You clearly don't trust me, but JimBob is confirmed pro-town. So why don't you send your contact name to him so JimBob can find out the truth?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sigurd Fafnesbane
And how do you know this person who gave you the 'real' info is speaking truthfully? If he's the FBI detective, let him contact JimBob.
Now, on the one hand we have a confirmed townie saying the FBI detective told him Sigurd is Don Corleone.
We have that accused don saying it's false, accusing his attackers of being mafia, and then producing 'evidence', which conveniently no one else can see.
Sasaki - we can vig kill Dons if their lucas aren't protecting them and are trying to kill instead. Even a luca protection would provide yet more evidence Sigurd is the don.
CR
And on that note, if there are any FBI detectives out there not in touch with JimBob, I think they should take the plunge and get in touch. JimBob has provided us with a lynch list. If this list prooves to be false we won't have much time to win the game once we're done lynching the false suspects.Quote:
If he's the FBI detective, let him contact JimBob.
So it's do or die I think. Genuine detectives should get in touch with JimBob. If it turns out JimBob is manipulating the town, then very well played to him, but I somehow doubt it given Glenn's post mortem.
I quit.
“I can feel them, they're here.
The howling winds of war.
You can sense them.
They are bad omens.
You can see the death dealing hordes….
There's no reason.
There's no rhyme.
They will bring eternal night.
Oh no!
It's too late to turn back now.
A soldier lives to die.”
-- Yngwie Malmsteen
Sunset, Day Seven
The discussion at the evening meeting involved interesting revelations, claims and counter claims. The voting itself, despite a lot of confusion in the counting, ended up with a clear result.
“The committee has chosen death for Dutch_guy,” said JimBob. “That sentence will be carried out imm….”
JimBob whipped up a Buntline special from the podium and in one fluid motion shot Dutch-guy in the middle of the face.
“ediately.”
Dutch-guy’s lifeless body collapsed like a puppet with its strings cut. Blood leaked out of both ears as well as the shattered hole that had replaced Dutch’s nose. The Director apparently did not favor full metal jackets for his ammunition.
“I will continue as Director, courtesy of your support. Guard yourselves well, for I assure you that our task is not yet complete.”
JimBob gaveled the meeting to a close. The Committee shuffled out, more than a little disturbed by the sudden conclusion to the meeting – even though a clear majority had voted that way.
Night arrived with yet another series of thunderstorms. The skies themselves mirrored the mood below. Few intended to “go gently” into that good night.
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1. As Noted before, Night PMs will be accepted up to 1300 22 Feb 08 (1800GMT)
2. Lynch Vote Tally:
Dutch_guy = 14 (BSR, Charge, CA, Crate, EMM, Hiji, Husar, Joe, Kukri, Griz, Mak, Prole, Sig, TB) 1 unbolded vote by Ciaus as well.
Sigurd Fafnesbane = 10 (Cow, CR, Kage, Myrd, North, Sara, Scott, Tin, Tran, Xeh)
Crazed Rabbit = 1 (Shlin)
3. Selection Vote Tally:
Didn’t bother, not worth counting.
Yes, they can if their Luca dont protect him doing something the same night.Quote:
because don's can't be vig killed.
At least one of you guys is awake while reading the thread...Quote:
Originally Posted by ajaxfetish
Well spotted ajaxfetish :bow:
dang missed votes :(
Alright, everyone check your tallies. Seems our friends in the mob are messing with them to throw us off.
To Sigurd: I do trust my FBI man. I'm as sure of him as I am of anyone else in this game.
Our results are based on solid detective work.
On that note:
Anymore detectives in the woodwork? Come out and play. Doctors too.
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That was a great post, Ajax. Some quick stuff, haven't gone over it all thoroughly:
Tran was a wiseguy on N3. Klled Panno with me. Don't know what Tran is up to now.Quote:
Originally Posted by ajaxfetish
Hit on Proletariat (innocent) on N4 was probably the balloon mafia.
Andres(made) and Omanes(don) were both dead on N5. Yet the murder of Motep on n5 had 'pink ballet slippers'. And was performed by three people. I don't get it. Did Dutch become don and recruited a third member? Did a wiseguy group take over the pink ballet emblem? ~:confused:
The cowardly murder of Louis 6 on N VI was, according to Dutch, performed by Dutch himself. Together with one other person. The 'pink ballet' poofte...er, mafia emblem of the Straccchi's was absent though.
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--Corleone. Don: Sigurd (according to JimBob's contacts), Luca: Unknown, Made: Tiberius of the Drake (dead), several unknown associated wise guys. Calling Card: Weather balloons and religious paraphernalia. Victims: Glenn (crusader?, N3), Beefy (townie, N3), The Stranger (townie, N3), GH (N4, wise guy), attempted hits on Glenn (N2) and Proletariat (N4, N5, N6?, possible Don).
Same as I heard. Same source too no doubt.Quote:
--Tataglia. Family member: Makayane (according to JimBob's contacts)
Teh big guessQuote:
--Cunnio.
This is the 'rose' group. All coloured roses are from the same group, the Barzini's. So, these hits below are all from the same, rather powerful, family:Quote:
--Barzini.
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Other possible calling cards: A black rose was left with Chimpyang's corpse (N5). A white rose was dropped by CR's attempted assailant (N6).
The possible attempted hit on Proletariat (town) I've never figured out either. There is both a balloon and a rose, which is just odd.Quote:
Yellow rose group (whichever family it may be). Don: Unknown, Luca: Unknown, Made: Unknown, associated wise guys if any unknown. Calling Card: Yellow rose and a preference for explosives. Victims: Zorg (wise guy, N3), Moros (N4, wise guy or wolf-type character), Lt. Pinard (N6), possible attempted hit on Proletariat (N4).
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Italian Destiny group (whichever family it may be). Don: Unknown, Luca: Unknown, Made: Unknown, associated wise guys if any unknown. Calling Card: an Italian phrase (destiny is inexorable). Victims: Kamikhaan (N5), ajaxfetish (N6).
Hohoho...Quote:
Originally Posted by Sarathos
Sasaki has 'gone rogue detective? You mean, Sasaki is claiming to be a rogue detective? :inquisitive:
First, Sasaki has a made who's name he refuses to share, to this day, for one reason or the other. And now, he is running around claiming to be a rogue detective to people?
I have never claimed to be rogue detective. Not this game anyway. And you don't have to worry about the made. I'm just sayin, there weren't any investigation results today...
Oops, almost missed this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit
The last thing that I said, was that naming you a don was rash, but that the FoS remains. To put it differently, we have some 'multi-interpretational' stuff that we are going over. We need time to work everything out. There is something fishy going on somewhere, but I am not sure it is you I smell.
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On another note, Ichigo was(?) working for the Barzini's, as a recruited wiseguy.
Vote: Crazed Rabbit
Nice try with the pm.
I'm not 100% certain either. I can take your name off if you want to withdraw your accusation that he was a made, but IIRC both Omanes and JimBob's sources have said as much as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat
It looked like there were multiple attacks or pseudo-attacks made on Proletariat that same night. The rose group had the dart and the 'just kidding' note, the balloon group had the 'innocent' balloon escape, and the third attack I interpreted as the Stracchis because of the car driver's thoughts (the Stracchi were the only family I know of on their way out of town and backstabbed at that point) and the word 'sayanora' (considering the Asian accent hint about the family). The balloons I took for a coincidence, but I could be wrong.Quote:
Hit on Proletariat (innocent) on N4 was probably the balloon mafia.
I don't know about the three people on N5 either, but there were ballet slippers left with your corpse as well as the playing card, and Dutch seemed to have an accomplice of his own according to the write-up.Quote:
Andres(made) and Omanes(don) were both dead on N5. Yet the murder of Motep on n5 had 'pink ballet slippers'. And was performed by three people. I don't get it. Did Dutch become don and recruited a third member? Did a wiseguy group take over the pink ballet emblem? ~:confused:
The cowardly murder of Louis 6 on N VI was, according to Dutch, performed by Dutch himself. Together with one other person. The 'pink ballet' poofte...er, mafia emblem of the Straccchi's was absent though.
I'll have to add that into my analysis. It seemed strange at first when after three yellow roses we were presented by a black one, but now the colors are multiplying beyond the likelihood of belonging to different families.Quote:
This is the 'rose' group. All coloured roses are from the same group, the Barzini's. So, these hits below are all from the same, rather powerful, family:
In terms of the 'Italian Destiny' family, there was a hit on Kamikhaan on N5, in which he was skewered by a lance with a pennant reading 'il destino è inesorabile' (destiny is inevitable or something along those lines). I wasn't sure what qualified as the calling card at that point, but then on N6 I was hit by a group who left a parchment with the same phrase on it, so I've determined that to be their calling card. On further reflection, the use of a lance and 'parchment' are a little odd as well, and suggest a medieval component to the family. I wonder if they're in any way connected to the bizarre killing of FactionHeir. No idea how yet, though.Quote:
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Ajax
Nope, FactionHeir was organized by me. A detective sent me a guilty reading on him and we killed him. The medieval armor was in honor of my old Crusader group that never got to kill any mafia.Quote:
On further reflection, the use of a lance and 'parchment' are a little odd as well, and suggest a medieval component to the family. I wonder if they're in any way connected to the bizarre killing of FactionHeir. No idea how yet, though.
Okay, that episode makes a lot more sense now. What was with the red vs. black insignia? (were you in red, to start the thing off, with a separate black vig. group?)Quote:
Originally Posted by JimBob
Ajax
I suppose when that detective investigates you, he'd also get a guilty readin because you participated in a killing.
All right. Here's my N6 summary again, but edited to include the input of Louis and JimBob.
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
Ajax
Well, when you contribute too much, you become a target since you can discover them.Edit:They try to lead the town to confussion, then come in and lead us to defeat.Quote:
I see no special reason why I was targeted.
Its night RoadKill :inquisitive:Quote:
Originally Posted by RoadKill
Gnight all.
I understand that. It's just that my main contributions are things I can do just as well dead as alive, so killing me wouldn't have made a terrific difference in the towns defenses. Others are more involved in leading night actions, voting, or private info coordination. I'm mainly just analyzing and packaging the info available to all in the public thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by Caius
Ajax
“Tell me, who can you trust these days
Cause people don't be about it like they say
Gotta be watching your back night and day
Who can you trust
Tell me, who can you trust or not
The ones that be trying' to get what you got
Just listen to these words whatever you do
The only one you trust is you”
-- Keri Lewis
Summary, Night Seven
Sasaki Kojiro left the Convention Center and went towards a restaurant to get a bite. He wasn’t really interested in company at the moment – in point of fact he was a little listless as things just hadn’t been going smoothly.
<<Why wouldn’t they listen?>>
He finished supper and went out the front towards his car. He put the lock and tried to turn it, but it didn’t work. With the rain coming down, this was not comfortable.
<<That’s funny..>>
As he jiggled the key, it finally turned and a dripping Sasaki sat down, closed the door and began to start the car.
<<This doesn’t seem right,> thought Sasaki, as he went through the start-up sequence on autopilot.
Just as he turned the key in the ignition, a gunman appeared from either side of the vehicle, each of them carrying Johnson LMG’s. Both guns opened up, their in line stocks letting both gunners keep their weapons on target despite long bursts. Round after round hammered into the windows and doors of Sasaki’s car as he dropped below the dash in a reflexive effort to escape his own destruction.
Which he did. Much to the surprise of both gunmen as well as Sasaki, each gunner had emptied a full 20-round box of 30ought6 ammo into the doors and windows without making a single hole. The doors and windows were gashed, dented, and spidered with cracks, but not one round had penetrated. In fact, more than a few rounds had ricocheted dangerously close to the shooters themselves. They themselves had come closer to death than their target! With sirens announcing the imminent arrival of the police, both gunmen ran up the street and disappeared into the rain and darkness.
Panting, Sasaki sat up in the vehicle and looked around.
<<This isn’t my car! It’s very close but….>>
As he peered out of the cracked windows of his “borrowed” vehicle – fortunately heavily armored as opposed to Sasaki’s normal ride – he thought he caught a glimpse of a trench-coated figure across the rainy street. The figure gently tipped his broad-brimmed hat toward Sasaki and faded into night.
Brave Sir Robin was just turning the key in his apartment door when he heard someone thudding up the stairs from below and the <<click>> of a bolt from behind the door. He jumped back, just in time to avoid the fusillade of shots coming through the door and the space he’d occupied a half second before.
<<A trap!>>
As the gunman kicked open the shattered door and stepped into the hallway, Robin raced to the end of the hall a dove through the hall window onto the fire escape. The Gunman smiled to himself.
Robin rolled to the edge of the fire escape and allowed himself to drop, hanging on by his hands. Robin then jumped sideways onto the fire ladder and rode it to the ground below, quickly racing off in the direction of the nearest police patrol.
Inside, the apartment gunman walked up to the broken window, looked around and confirmed a distinct absence of an accomplice, then commented on the parentage of his missing partner. He met his other partner at the top of the steps and both quickly made ther escape..
Proletariat was on edge. She hadn’t managed more than a couple hours of sleep for several days. Her reactions were off, her temper was short, and she was ready to jump away from – or fire back at – the slightest sound.
<<But am I paranoid ENOUGH?>>
Prole’ giggled to herself – a giggle with just a bit of hysteria carefully shrouded behind it. She continued to duck from one doorway to the next, carefully scanning for threats before moving to the next.
<<Now!>>
Prole’ moved quickly to the next doorway, but this time something was different. Sitting in a small fishbowl in the doorway was a milk snake!
<<What?>>
A figure leaned out of the second story window above and just to the side of the door and dropped to the street. Prole went for her gun, but the stranger was faster – flinging another snake at her face.
Surprising both Proletariat and the stranger, the door behind her opened and a hand grabbed the snake neatly out of the air just before it would have struck her. The hand disappeared behind the door, taking the snake with it.
Proletariat had her gun out and firing at the retreating figure of the stranger, but wasn’t able to get off a clear shot in the rain and dark. Her stomach aching from adrenalin, she turned to check the door behind her, hoping to find out who had helped her so. Knotted on the latch was the 2nd snake – a Coral snake – its crushed head dripping the venom meant for her. The door was once again locked.
Prole’ sat in the waiting room of the local police precinct all night, sipping bad coffee and glancing quickly toward any strange sound. She made sure that she didn’t fall asleep.
Tran was pretty well prepared for anything – he thought. So he was, of course, completely unprepared to see four men dressed in visored helmets and crusader outfits with black crosses leveling shotguns and pistols at him from within his own living room as he opened the door. He was, however, prepared for a quick escape.
He fired his pistol in the crusader’s general direction without even bothering to get it clear of his pocket – a coat can be replaced – and spun toward the window at the end of the hall. They fired back, but not expecting him to be quite that fast they were unable to make contact, hammering holes in the door and the opposite wall of the hallway instead. Two of them moved forward to pursue.
Tran leapt through the window in a shower of glass and out onto the fire escape – only to find that the crusaders had thoughtfully removed the fire escape earlier in the evening. His planned escape route became 65 feet of free fall to a side-street below. One crusader – hoping for this result – had placed himself at the apartment window to watch the show.
Instead, he got to watch Tran plummet onto the back of a moving canvas-topped truck passing in the street below at that precise moment. The canvas billowed up, absorbing the impact of Tran’s fall like a cushion and depositing him – rather messily – into a half load of ripe Jersey peaches. The stunned driver slammed on his brakes and got out of the vehicle. A small crowd quickly gathered. Tran was emerging, bruised and shaken but apparently unhurt. The frustrated Crusaders made their way up onto the roof and went from roof to roof until they were clear of the scene.
NorthNovas was taking no chances. Despite the rain, he’d gone around the perimeter of his two-bedroom home both inside and out, checking for anything out of the ordinary and making sure that nobody was lurking nearby. He’d gone in, locked up, and was pouring himself an iced tea when he heard the commotion out front.
Moving carefully, shotgun in hand and a pistol at his belt (well this IS Fatlington!), North went to his shuttered front window.
<<What the….>>
Peering out through the rain he was flabbergasted to see a small mob of several hundred people moving down his street carrying lit torches, clubs, and – oddly enough – a few pitchforks. Aside from the tourist-at-the-beach wear most sported, they looked pretty much like the villager mob from one of the Frankenstein movies he’d watched so avidly as a kid. The rain and occasional lightning flash in the background only added to the effect.
The mob stopped in front of his house and started screaming. “Show yourself villain,” shouted one! “Give yourself up,” shouted another! One wag shouted, “We’re here for your monster Doctor Frankenstein!” This caused a good portion of the crowd to break into laughter. “You’ve betrayed our town!” They weren’t really angry, just playing it up for yucks – and making a lot of noise.
Enough noise that North never heard the attic trapdoor swing down into the kitchen or the men step softly behind him into the living room. The first he knew that they were there was when the .45 went off behind him sending a slug through his right wrist. His crippled hand dropped the shotgun. A quick series of following shots hit him repeatedly in the back. His body armor stopped the shots, but NorthNovas was slammed unconscious into his front door, dropping in a heap.
North awoke moments later as his arms were nearly yanked from their sockets. His attackers had quickly hammered eyebolts into the framing above the door and used ropes to both bind his hands and pull him upright, facing the front door. He’d been gagged, his armor vest removed, and his legs bound together with the rope run through an eyebolt put into the floor between his feet. The crowd outside were still making noise, though mostly it was laughter now at one bad monster-movie joke after another – enough beer and anything seems funny.
“How much did the crowd cost,” said one of the voices behind him, glancing out the shuttered window.
“Couple of kegs and we had to provide most of the torches and such,” answered another.
“Nice. Hey, look! We’ve got a reporter and two photographers out recording the “joke” for posterity,” laughed the first voice. After a short pause he continued. “Our man seems to have finished passing out beers and such and is behind the reporter and getting clear.”
“Good,” said a new voice, standing just behind NorthNovas. “Just one last little thing.”
This last person took a long knife and plunged it into the middle of North’s back, just to the right of the spine. North screamed into the gag. The knife was turned ninety degrees and sliced down and through NorthNovas’ diaphragm and into his intestines. North tried to scream, but couldn’t really breath – barely any oxygen was drawn into his lungs – his loudest sound was a faint wheeze.
“With your lung muscle cut, you should choke to death long before you bleed out,” said this last man. “Of course, you get to enjoy the pain for several minutes either way.”
He leaned in to whisper in North’s ear.
“Just so you know, villain, the heroes in this little production are…”
The men left quietly, with the crowd out front starting to disperse. They had no trouble mingling in and clearing the scene unnoticed. It was hours before anybody found North’s body hanging from the inside of his own front door.
Husar had just reached home and headed for the kitchen to grab a beer when he discovered he wasn’t alone. There were noises coming from the kitchen ahead of him. He broke through the doorway with his gun drawn and level.
There, roped to a chair in his apartment kitchen was his landlady, gagged and struggling to break free. She looked at him, looked at his weapon, and screamed into her gag. He paused, shocked at the sight nearly as much as she.
<<I thought about doing that the last time the rent was due…>> Husar thought, irrelevantly.
The distraction had served its purpose. Two figures, one in the pantry and one stepping out into the living room behind him both opened up with their Kalishnikov assault rifles, model 1947 – apparently bribery worked just fine in the USSR as well as the West – on full auto. They fired low, so that none of the shots would be instantly fatal. Husar went down, screaming, bleeding from more than a dozen wounds in the abdomen, legs, and…elsewhere…in that vicinity.
The shooter from the pantry stepped forward, holding up a javelin with parchment attached.
“Ciao,” said the masked shooter.
The shooter skewered Husar through the throat, stopping the screaming and killing him instantly. The second shooter stepped into the doorway and put a short burst through the landlady’s face, splattering it across the back half of the kitchen.
“Sweet,” said the woman’s killer. "Shame it's probably the last time we get to use them."
“I agree, and yeah,” said the first. “Gun looks like it’s been stamped out from scrap metal but it works like a charm. Guy who sold them to me said I could even dump ‘em in the surf for an hour and they’d still fire. If the Rooskis can keep building them like this, we’re in trouble.”
“Commie,” laughed the other. “Why do you hate freedom?”
They both left quickly. The police responding to the scene 10 minutes later found a message on the penant attached to the javelin: “il destino è inesorabile.”
Tincow was almost home when it happened. He was armed, wearing armor, and carefully watching and listening for anything unusual. He still didn’t hear the attacker until too late.
The attacker had glided up from behind virtually without a sound. One gloved hand grabbed TinCow’s forehead while a second brought the razor-sharp blade in across Tin’s throat. A short spray of blood and a gasp from TinCow and then the attacker let him drop to the ground. A playing card – the king of hearts – with the word “traitor” printed on the back was dropped on TinCow’s body and the attacker faded into the shadows and the misting rain that followed the worst of the storm.
Only it wasn’t a body. TinCow had been stunned and had a shallow cut across his neck just below the adam’s apple, but most of the cut had slashed through the thick throat padding of his armor vest rather than through him. He’d only added the bulky throat-piece as an after-thought tonight – normally he went without. By all rights, he should be dead instead of having the next thing to a bad shaving cut. By the slimmest of chances, he’d survived his own death at the hands of a master assassin. He went inside for a drink…make that several.
Morning Day Eight.
“Anyway, now you’re all up to date on last night,” said commissioner Fermanagh. “Here’s the results for our follow up investigations.”
“We lost at least two confirmed innocents that night,” said Fermanagh. “Rythmic and molonthegreat have checked out as townies pure and simple. We’re less sure of two other townies, Chimpyang and Kamikhaan, both of whom mayhave been involved in the killings – though we only have rumors about that.”
“Four criminals died as well. You got one Mafioso made gangster – that scum Andres was just that. Motep and Warmasterhorus were both WiseGuys, though we have no evidence of their involvement in any crimes recently. The other WiseGuy who died was woad&fangs, and there is some evidence that he was involved in the killings – probably trying to work his way into a crime family.”
“Lastly, we found memorabilia similar to those Glenn had in Rob_the_celt’s apartment. He was a townie and a loaner, no criminal for sure, and just maybe he was part of the same whack-job group that Glenn was.”
JimBob glared at the Commissioner.
“Excuse me,” mumbled Fermanagh. “I’ll on about my work.”
He left, and JimBob reviewed the procedures again before breaking up the meeting until evening.
OOC
1. Lynch Voting for Day will now commence. Deadline will be 1300 EST 23 Feb 08 (1800 GMT). WARNING – it’s the weekend and my schedule is not as much my own, be flexible.
2. Investigation Results and Promotions as soon as possible.
3. List of Players and Events
Still Alive: (42) Alexander the Pretty Good, Big King Sanctaphrax, Brave Sir Robin, Caeser the III, Caius, Charge, CountArach, Cowhead418, Craterus, Crazed Rabbit, Draco Leman, Elite Ferret, Evil_Maniac from Mars, gibsonsg91921, Haudegen, Hiji, Ichigo, Ironside, JimBob, Joe Monks, johnhughthom, Jubal_Barca, Kagemusha, KukriKhan, Leet Erikson, LittleGrizzly, Makanyane, Myrrdraal, norwegian nerd, Proletariat, Roadkill, Sarathos, Sasaki Kojiro, scottishranger, shlin28, Sigurd Fafnesbane, TinCow, Tran, TruePraetorian, Twilightblade, Warluster, Xdeathfire, Xehh II.
Attacked: (27) Andres (N2, N3), Beefy187 (N1), Brave Sir Robin (N7), Caius (N3), Craterus (N6), Crazed Rabbit (N6), Cowhead418 (N2), Evil_Maniac from Mars (N3), GeneralHankerchief (N2, N3), Glenn (N1, N2), Kagemusha (N6), Proletariat (N4, N4, N5, N6, N7), Sasaki Kojiro (N5, N7), taka (N2), Tran (N5, N7), TinCow (N7), Twilightblade (N4, N5), Xdeathfire (N1)
Murdered: (23) Drisos (N1), Lord Winter (N2), Beefy187 (N3), Glenn (N3), Pannonian (N3), taka (N3), The Stranger (N3), Zorg (N3), GeneralHankerchief (N4), Kommodus (N4), Moros (N4), Xiahou (N4), Chimpyang (N5), Kamikhaan (N5), Motep (N5), Rythmic, (N5), woad&fangs (N5), ajaxfetish (N6), FactionHeir (N6), Lt. Pinard (N6), Louis VI the Fat (N6), Husar (N7), NorthNovas (N7)
Lynched: (7) pevergreen (D2), Hannibalbarca (D3), Tiberius of the Drake (D3), Omanes Alexandrapolites (D4), Andres (D5), Xdeathfire (D6), Dutch_guy (D7)
Removed from Play: (7) Fahad I (D4), Killfr3nzy (D4), x-dANGEr (D4), Sapi (N4), Warmaster Horus (N5), Rob_the_Celt (N5), molonthegreat (N5)
I was a little distracted by the mob noise, the knife and the gag could you repeat those names again?Quote:
“Just so you know, villain, the heroes in this little production are…”
Only two succesful kills. Tran escaped somehow and these ridiculous attempts on prole continue.
Vote:Sigurd
Don't think we'll be able to double lynch.
Very interesting.
More people survive by luck...
Didn't Omanes let slip something about Don's surviving their first attack without protection? However, we've had quite a few 'lucky' survivals. It's possible that Seamus has added 'lucky townies' who survive their first attack. I can't help but remember when Beefy said something like "Thanks for making my luck run out" or something along those lines.
In any case, I think the FBI detective has a good target in Tincow.
Sasaki was protected, from a definate mafia hit (2 attackers)
Prole was protected again. Very interesting.
Tran was protected too. I'm assuming that was Jimbob & co taking him out because he is a confirmed wise-guy/mafioso (according to JimBob's investigation reveals). Can Luca's protect mafioso who aren't Dons? Perhaps seeing he was a suspect they decided he was worth protecting?
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then commented on the parentage of his missing partner.
Vote: Sigurd. We cant let him roam around freely.
vote:Tincow
He is the real Don... His attack proves it.
Magically surviving the master assasin's attack. The luck Omanes revealed all Dons have?
The one feeding JimBob false information. I know the FBI reveals are all lies. I know this because I was given the role description in a pm.
Ah wait, it seems Tran wasn't protected, or at least, it's not clear from the write up.
It seems the lorry driver is surprised to see him, not like our other protectors. So maybe he's 'lucky' too? Are there any roles which have % probabilities of killing rather than a definate kill?
Why don't you post it here? Again, more evidence that only you can see.Quote:
I know this because I was given the role description in a pm.
Also, it seems we have several people surviving by luck. I notice you didn't care to see this? Surviving by luck might make you a candidate for investigation perhaps, but certainly doesn't proove guilt. We've had far too many people survive by luck for them all to be dons.
And it seems I forget to vote, sorry for the post flooding, but I need to put this one in a new post I believe:
Vote:Sigurd
I dont see the point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sigurd Fafnesbane
Argh, sorry again.
Tally:
Sigurd Fafnesbane: 3 (Sasaki, Kage, Myrddraal)
TinCow: 1 (Sigurd)
Amusing.
I am sure I will be dead soon, since I doubt I can repeat my magical feat of survival and I am not important enough to waste a protection on. I was working as a mole inside the 'New' Stracchis, feeding all their information directly to JimBob and other trusted townies.
[the dead may not discuss night actions publicly -- seamus]
I am certain I will be dead soon, so there is no need for me to hide this information any longer. To all townies: JimBob's FBI results are real. Anyone who tries to convince you otherwise is mafia. Lynch them all.
Thanks mafia, for the army of uber surgeons you're creating trying to take me out
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Originally Posted by TinCow
A desperate post... dealing out blame to others to minimise the risk of getting lynched.
You admit to have been feeding JimBob the FBI information? It is all false. I know that the one pm'ing me the FBI role description is dead, a stretch of the rules, I know. Yet he never claimed to be the FBI agent. Just a heads up and the info about the probability of discovering a Don by investigation. It is 1/36 people. Logic says that it is close to impossible. Yet the claimant of the role investigated me twice.. why? first time innocent second time guilty Don?
I think we found the true Dons... TinCow with his lucky survival (thank you Omanes for revealing that tidbit) and Tran the new Don of the Stracci.
That was one very scummy post Sigurd.
Firstly, you were the fastest to leap on another to accuse. As soon as I suggested that TinCow might be good for investigation, you assure everyone that he must be a Don.
Then you twist his words. He did not say he was feeding the FBI information, he said it was genuine.
Your accusations are wild and overly assertive, how can you possibly be sure that Tran is the new Don of the Stracci.
You're the one who's sounding more and more desperate.
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I saw the post, but I don't think it matters too much, TinCow should have legally passed on all this info to JimBob. In fact, if JimBob would kindly reveal the info, it would proove that TinCow is telling the truth, and hasn't made it up on the spot.Quote:
[the dead may not discuss night actions -- seamus]
Didn't matter much? He spilled all the beans. For what? my single vote? If he has friends in high places he could just get protection in the following nights.Quote:
Originally Posted by Myrddraal
I say we hit the hammer right on the nail.
JimBob is alive, and may post his night actions or what he has learned of others.
NorthNovas is dead, and may not do so. Nothing more, nor less.
Uh... I'm not dead. Why was my info edited out?
Indeed, now I'm really confused.
I think perhaps you should just repost it, I think Seamus was confusing you with NorthNovas.
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He is the real Don... His attack proves it.
Magically surviving the master assasin's attack. The luck Omanes revealed all Dons have?
The one feeding JimBob false information. I know the FBI reveals are all lies. I know this because I was given the role description in a pm.
Lady fortune smile on many people Sigurd. There are at least a few genuine townies who should go buy lotto tickets when this is over.Quote:
A desperate post... dealing out blame to others to minimise the risk of getting lynched.
You admit to have been feeding JimBob the FBI information? It is all false. I know that the one pm'ing me the FBI role description is dead, a stretch of the rules, I know. Yet he never claimed to be the FBI agent. Just a heads up and the info about the probability of discovering a Don by investigation. It is 1/36 people. Logic says that it is close to impossible. Yet the claimant of the role investigated me twice.. why? first time innocent second time guilty Don?
I think we found the true Dons... TinCow with his lucky survival (thank you Omanes for revealing that tidbit) and Tran the new Don of the Stracci.
And TinCow has not been giving me the FBI results. That's been the FBI detective. TinCow has been inside the New Stracci organization and has been feeding the names of their members too me. That's why NorthNovas and Tran were hit tonight. Both were organized by my group. The surviving New Straccis are Tran and gibson. If I'm missing any TinCow can point them out.
You were double checked because you were suspicious. The innocent could have made you townie or Don. So we checked again, and the dice rolled our way.
Side point:
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I saw the post, but I don't think it matters too much, TinCow should have legally passed on all this info to JimBob. In fact, if JimBob would kindly reveal the info, it would proove that TinCow is telling the truth, and hasn't made it up on the spot.
I'll repost it if someone tells me what it was. And for the record, TinCow posted that, not NorthNovas, he's got a long list of PMs from Andres, Dutch, and NorthNovas detailing their night exploits.Quote:
JimBob is alive, and may post his night actions or what he has learned of others.
NorthNovas is dead, and may not do so. Nothing more, nor less.
Jim
Did you perhaps post a pm sent to you by Northnovas in which he discussed his latest night action after his dead?Quote:
Originally Posted by TinCow
Anyway, you should wait for Seamus before posting it again.
Nothing of the sort. I'm just a lowly townie, though I think I'm due for a wiseguy promotion based on vig hits now. However, I do know who the FBI Detective was and can confirm that all of the detective results that JimBob posted are accurate because I saw them myself. Your bluffing is getting wild and desperate, Sigurd. I've seen others post before that the mafia never dies quietly. This appears to be true. I have served my purpose and am now disclosing as much information as I can to strengthen the town's position before I am killed off. I am sure you will keep tossing out poorly thought-out lies right up until your neck is stretched.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sigurd Fafnesbane
I encourage all pro-town players to contact JimBob directly and give him whatever support you can. It is obvious to everyone that he is pro-town and I can personally verify that he is 100% trustworthy. He will not disclose the identity of anyone who contacts him, so doctors and detectives can continue to come out of the woodwork. If everyone works with JimBob, the town will win. I encourage all townies to follow any order JimBob gives you to the letter. It would also be useful if you follow his advice on lynchings. Do not let the mafia distract you with their votes. Vote as JimBob wants you to every day, and keep re-electing him as Director.
No, I posted what Northnovas did last night, but I knew that first hand, since I was in every single PM discussing the hit. How can that count as forbidden info?Quote:
Originally Posted by Andres
Its impossible.Quote:
Did you perhaps post a pm sent to you by Northnovas in which he discussed his latest night action after his dead?
Vote Sigurd
All hail Jimbob, our supreme leader!
I think it's best for Seamus to confirm that you are allowed to post whatever it was you posted (sorry, I missed it).Quote:
Originally Posted by Don Cow
TinCow or JimBob: would you mind posting the specific roles held by Tran, NorthNovas, and Gibson? It'd make my night summary a lot easier and clearer when I get to it. I'm kind of assuming Tran was the new don (longest in the family, protection or lucky escape), but I'd like to be sure and to know about the others.
Ajax
I will be happy to, but like Andres suggests, I'd like to wait for a Seamus ruling first. I'm kind of confused about why my first post was edited out and I don't want to break the rules if I somehow misunderstand them.
Yes.. the true part is that you did come out as innocent in a investigation.Quote:
Originally Posted by TinCow
I knew Omanes mentioned the lucky saves in the back thread:
I wonder how many townies has this ability?Quote:
I have an apology/confession to make. I unknowingly leaked a red area of my role PM in the private area - regarding the luck and survival chances that Dons have without the aid of their Luca. By the time I had realised Andres and Dutch_guy had read it, so I felt there was no point in editing it out - doing so could not repair already performed harm. At the time I also knew that these two would not reveal this detail to anybody else externally, so the damage caused was limited.
As you may expect though, I was not anticipating the entire discussion thread ending up in the public arena. I quickly deleted the topic after Louis' betrayal to avoid him using it for his personal gain or revealing anything contained within it, but this clearly failed - he must have grabbed hold of it long before I destroyed all the information contained within it.
My sincere apologies for any problems/imbalances this may have caused ~:(
Now if you are a Don... I wonder.Quote:
However, I do know who the FBI Detective was and can confirm that all of the detective results that JimBob posted are accurate because I saw them myself.
Did no-one read my claim? It is countering yours and JimBobs. All I hear is: we are confindent that the FBI detective is genuine. Could you at least provide some proof? A part of his role pm?
Like he wouldn't disclose the FBI agent's results to Don Barzini? Yeah.. I am right am I not?Quote:
I encourage all pro-town players to contact JimBob directly and give him whatever support you can. It is obvious to everyone that he is pro-town and I can personally verify that he is 100% trustworthy. He will not disclose the identity of anyone who contacts him, so doctors and detectives can continue to come out of the woodwork.
Dangerous with all the moles around.
once again, sorry i havent been active
It's generally not a good idea trying to get the hitman lynched.
He usually knows too much. You'd better leave him alone or he'll expose you all.
Just my :2cents:
I'm sure the intended recipients of this post understand very well what I'm trying to say here.
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Originally Posted by TinCow
TinCow is still alive, so what's the problem? ~:confused:- irrelevant, that'll teach me to refresh.
I am almost positive that I read in the rules that every single player has at least one 'Red' section in their Role. This would mean that every single townie (and wiseguy) has something unusual about them. I admit I cannot find this in the Rule thread at the moment, though. If someone else has seen the same thing, I would appreciate having it pointed out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sigurd Fafnesbane
Hey come on Sigurd, at least when I was pretending to have an FBI detective informant I posted his fake role pm...a little more effort here ~D
Talking of which.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
When are you going to post the genuine role pm of your Made Gangster contact?
Why would I have that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Andres
Ah, they finally came for me, not really unexpected, especially since I said I would have more info in one of my last posts...
Have fun. :balloon2:
How else did you know that he was a Made? Because you are his Don?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
Well you have a point their andres. He could have been a detective sneakily pretending to be a made. :laugh4:
Funny.
If he's a Made, shouldn't a townie give his identity?
If he's a Made, then tell me, why would he give you genuine investigation results? Even if you're a townie, why would we put trust in the investigation results provided to you by the mafia?
"I know a Made. If I were mafia, I would not tell this in public" = WIFOM.
I can't believe the town lets you get away with all this "my mafia contact told me" stuff, without demanding you to reveal your mafia contact and any other intel you should have by now about his family.
Sigurd really needs some lynching. Funny how he seems to vote for whoever got attacked by the mafia the night before.
I'm going for a double lynch with Prole. Unlikely, I know, but if two dons are being voted up for lynching, the town can hardly lose.
vote: Prole
Tally:
Sigurd: 4 (Sasaki, Kagemusha, Myrd, shlin28)
Tincow: 1 (sigurd)
Prole: 1 (Rabbit)
Let's get votes on Sigurd and Prole, people!
CR
a) He's dead, hence the lack of investigation results.
b) He wanted to bring the other families down, hence his reporting the criminal result upon you which you have to admit was entirely accurate and certainly helped you get lynched.
c) I never said that.
Do keep posting about this though, maybe people will be so distracted they'll forget about TinCow's post where he said that Gibson and Tran were the new stracchi's...
CR what evidence do you have that prole is mafia?
I won't admit anything. I will take note of this information.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
Stracci's, not stracchi's. Without the 'h'.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
You mean, we're not dead yet? :jumping:
Hmmm so TC, why should everyone trust JimBob? He may be director and have his FBI contact (which might be dead according to some allusions), but he has a secret role or is part of a mafia family.
Remember him saying he's the last of his crusader group?
Everyone who has worked with JimBob knows he is pro-town. The fact that you don't know that is because you are mafia. Which is why you had a guilty result pop up when you were investigated. Which is why I helped vig kill you a couple nights ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by FactionHeir
Townies take note of the names of the people who continue to cast doubt on JimBob. You'll need to remember them for later lynching and vig kills.
The protections, and she said she had a role at the beginning of the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
Factionheir, aren't you alleged mafia?
CR
I am alleged mafia. But I think you'll note that a detective's guilty result applies to anyone who has participated in a kill, Don, Wiseguy, Made, Townie, even detectives.
Lots of people have been protected. I don't see why the other families would feel the need to remove a don so much that they would attack her 4 nights in a row. I don't see any evidence against her.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit
I'm not sure who to vote for, but Prole has been protected consistently from the beginning of the game. There has to be a reason.
Vote: Proletariat
Tally:
Sigurd: 4 (Sasaki, Kagemusha, Myrd, shlin28)
Tincow: 1 (sigurd)
Prole: 2 (Rabbit, EMFM)
EDIT: BTW, Sasaki, she's been attacked at least once by a singular person. Does that always point to a Mob family? (not a rhetorical question, I'm actually curious)