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I must say that although I haven't been following the WC much this year, my friends and I drank to Portugal's victory last night. And we drank again. And again. and again and again and again and again and again, until we ran out and had to run to the shop for some more cognac...
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Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat
What's with all that anti-Portugal sentiment btw?
What I saw, was that Dutch defender nearly breaking C. Ronaldo in half after only five minutes, followed by another Dutch player kicking him again ten minutes later. Both in a deliberate attempt to cause an injury and rob Portugal of their best player. Both only received a yellow card.
In the England game, Rooney put his full - rather impressive - weight behind a kick in the n### of a Portuguese player who was already down. The red card was more than deserved.
And then they both complain about Portuguese unfairness. :no:
England and Holland should take their complaints to their respective managers, not to Portugal. What with Van Basten not playing Van Nistelrooy and Eriksson playing first Rooney, and then Crouch, as sole attackers. Both were simply outwitted by Portugal and Scolari.
Well England's effort at least was heroic.
Not to mention, Germany has 80 million people, France and Italy 60 million. England, Argentina, Ukraine 45-50 million. Brazil 190 million. Portugal has 10. And they play the semi-final. I can only applaude them for it.
I kinda agree, though I think that:
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ok Louis I'm going to quote you on the following:
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What I saw, was that Dutch defender nearly breaking C. Ronaldo in half after only five minutes, followed by another Dutch player kicking him again ten minutes later. Both in a deliberate attempt to cause an injury and rob Portugal of their best player. Both only received a yellow card.
Well, common Louis, we're talking about Boulahrouz here....had he deliberatly tried to kick C Ronaldo out of the game, he would have, and Ronaldo would never be able to kick a ball again...ever.
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In the England game, Rooney put his full - rather impressive - weight behind a kick in the n### of a Portuguese player who was already down. The red card was more than deserved.
yes true, but that wink Ronaldo gave wasn't the best example of sportmanship now was it ?
What did he think, that it would go un noticed ?
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What with Van Basten not playing Van Nistelrooy and Eriksson playing first Rooney, and then Crouch, as sole attackers. Both were simply outwitted by Portugal and Scolari.
Well England's effort at least was heroic.
Nistelrooy is a name, you don't go for names *cough Ronaldo (Brazil) cough* when they're not performing well, he scored a goal, yes, but he wasn't in his true form. And yes, I won't deny that Portugal out witted us, they were simply more experienced than us, and showed it (thinks of Figo's dive, which I still find disgusting, great players like himself shouldnt need to degrade themselves like that...)
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Already knows I'll come to regret this post wednesday night after France-Portugal
Just so you know, we'll be rooting for you guys.
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Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat
What's with all that anti-Portugal sentiment btw?
What I saw, was that Dutch defender nearly breaking C. Ronaldo in half after only five minutes, followed by another Dutch player kicking him again ten minutes later. Both in a deliberate attempt to cause an injury and rob Portugal of their best player. Both only received a yellow card.
In the England game, Rooney put his full - rather impressive - weight behind a kick in the n### of a Portuguese player who was already down. The red card was more than deserved.
And then they both complain about Portuguese unfairness. :no:
England and Holland should take their complaints to their respective managers, not to Portugal. What with Van Basten not playing Van Nistelrooy and Eriksson playing first Rooney, and then Crouch, as sole attackers. Both were simply outwitted by Portugal and Scolari.
Well England's effort at least was heroic.
Not to mention, Germany has 80 million people, France and Italy 60 million. England, Argentina, Ukraine 45-50 million. Brazil 190 million. Portugal has 10. And they play the semi-final. I can only applaude them for it.
Totally agree with you Louis! We always win against the English and Dutch (maybe thats why they are so disapointed) and loose to the French! but, who knows? maybe this time will be different...
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Thanks Louis for the spelling lesson.
Vive la France!
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Originally Posted by Duke Malcolm
I must say that although I haven't been following the WC much this year, my friends and I drank to Portugal's victory last night. And we drank again. And again. and again and again and again and again and again, until we ran out and had to run to the shop for some more cognac...
Did it make the Scottish team any less awful?
Oh, and before anyone says anything about the Welsh team, most of my family are English.
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Originally Posted by Big King Sanctaphrax
Did it make the Scottish team any less awful?
Is there any need for a comment like that?
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Originally Posted by SSNeoperestroika
Is there any need for a comment like that?
Absolutely :2thumbsup:
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Well, Argentina's out so the guy to win is whoever beats Germany. Good luck.
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Originally Posted by King_Of_Portugal_2
What??? do you really believe that? like Dutch Guy said, you only beat us
in ten matches. We won 6 and there were 3 draws. How do you explain that? i guess you also believe that when we lost thats because we don't disrupt right? well thats ok, but it is your oppinion.
I am just bitter :embarassed:
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Originally Posted by Big King Sanctaphrax
Did it make the Scottish team any less awful?
I thought this was The Kingdom of Peace and Love. ~:)
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Oh, and before anyone says anything about the Welsh team, most of my family are English.
What are you talking about, the Welsh team is teh awesome! :balloon3:
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Originally Posted by Duke Malcolm
I must say that although I haven't been following the WC much this year, my friends and I drank to Portugal's victory last night. And we drank again. And again. and again and again and again and again and again, until we ran out and had to run to the shop for some more cognac...
Funny, my immediate thought after we were beaten by Portugual was "They'll be dancing in the streets of Dundee tonight" Followed by "Lets hope there's no seven year olds about for all those rufty tufty bravehearts to beat up and show how tough scotsmen are."
You know what? I don't care. Off you go, back to supporting whoever's playing against the big boys next. Must be really annoying for Scots not to have any internationals scheduled, I guess you guys just don't know what football team you support until you have the England fixture list?
Oh, BTW Andy Murray isn't British, he's Scottish. You are welcome to him. And he plays a girls game anyway.
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Oh, BTW Andy Murray isn't British, he's Scottish. You are welcome to him. And he plays a girls game anyway.
This is so true. You can tell because he grunts when he whacks his balls......:sweatdrop:
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I cried myself to sleep on saturday night. That's all I have to say...
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Originally Posted by English assassin
Funny, my immediate thought after we were beaten by Portugual was "They'll be dancing in the streets of Dundee tonight" Followed by "Lets hope there's no seven year olds about for all those rufty tufty bravehearts to beat up and show how tough scotsmen are."
You know what? I don't care. Off you go, back to supporting whoever's playing against the big boys next. Must be really annoying for Scots not to have any internationals scheduled, I guess you guys just don't know what football team you support until you have the England fixture list?
Oh, BTW Andy Murray isn't British, he's Scottish. You are welcome to him. And he plays a girls game anyway.
Must you attempt to stir things up when his comments could have been so
easily ignored? Is it too much to expect better of you? Tiresome when this
descends into pointless bashing.
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Erm, perhaps I should have put a smiley after my comment about the Scottish team. There's always been a bit of friendly rivalry between England and Scotland in footballing terms, and it was just meant as a bit of banter.
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Then I misinterpreted it - it seemed more like you were attempting to provoke,
or at least anticipating a hostile response. I am, of course, fully aware of the
rivalry, and none of the banter here looked to be in any way friendly.
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Originally Posted by Fragony
I am just bitter :embarassed:
You're in good company, with the Scots. :laugh4:
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Originally Posted by Red Peasant
You're in good company, with the Scots. :laugh4:
The only bitterness seemed to be coming from elsewhere. Sadly senior members.
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Scots play football ?? WHEN ?? WHERE ?? HOW ?? ON FEET ?? ~:eek:
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C'mon people, lighten up. It's just football. And we pwn you all anyway MUAHAAAHHAAAA :laugh4:
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Originally Posted by SSNeoperestroika
The only bitterness seemed to be coming from elsewhere. Sadly senior members.
All together now!
Don't cry for me Bonny Scotland!
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All together now!
Don't cry for me Bonny Scotland!
:laugh4:
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Interesting mix.
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Originally Posted by SSNeoperestroika
The only bitterness seemed to be coming from elsewhere. Sadly senior members.
I'm sure EA didn't mean it in a bad way at all, just some basic rivalry between football nations.
We Dutchmen always like to tease out Belgian friends about their football performances too, all well meant I assure you.
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Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat
somehow I don't think we'll see the English being cold and concentrated at the penalty spot tomorrow.
It's the quarter-finals already. Penalties, a traditional early exit and Scolari outwitting Eriksson yet again all loom for England.
In an original meaning of the word as the Greeks used it, a 'tragedy' refers to a sequence of events which are unfolding, events whose outcome is both tragic and unavoidable, and whose tragic outcome is already known to the audience, but not to the players on the stage.
That England lost, that a great generation is wasted owing to a lack of options up front and a manager who could not come up with a solution to that, that they lost on penalties for the fifth time in a row - none of that is what this tragedy is about for the outside observer.
For the audience, the somewhat neutral observer, the tragedy is that we were aware of what was going to happen all along and that we despite of that, or because of that, were compelled to identify with them - the more so the nearer the unavoidable outcome drew closer.
The tragedy was to have to watch them fight their bitter struggle against a fate that was already decided for them. To see them put up a heroic effort with ten men, not against the odds, but against unsurmountable fate.
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Hm. There was a win against Spain on penalties, at home. Although perhaps you can't draw
any positives from that.
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Hmm I read something intersting in the paper today...
It concerned the suspension of Torsten Frings, a veteran and very important German player.
As you all know, after germany beat Argentina, a fight ensued. Now somewhere in the fight - Frings supposedly fought (back?) too.
Now this deserves to be punished yes, but Fifa decided to suspend Frings after the Italian delegation (Germanies next adversary in the semi-finals) wanted Fifa to put some more research into Frings' role in the fight.
Now instead of tearing the request in half, like they should have, Fifa decided to hone the request. Leading to the suspension of Frings.
:no:
That's just horrible... and coming from germanies greatest rival (football wise) that should at least mean something !
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That is some prime ****-****!!!
They should not be allowed to do that!
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You're surprised? This is the Italian football team...a team of what can only be described as professional divers
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Originally Posted by Ianofsmeg16
You're surprised? This is the Italian football team...a team of what can only be described as professional divers
Last time I heard they won gold in Athens, ~;)
No, but seriously they deserve to lose after what they did in the Australia game, USA game and now this.