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Someone claimed this for you... If the IP thing is not important or never happened, then it is irrelevant. Wouldn't you agree? The same claimed you are the one who claims to be the FBI agent. Is this wrong also?Quote:
Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit
And I don't have to reveal my pm... It won't save me and you will know in three days time anyway. Be prepared to dodge those votes coming your way...
Where is Jimbob anyway? I want to hear what he has to say.
Just one bit of input:
The IP might be a good hint, but I wouldn´t overrate it. There are plenty of tools available to fake IP´s.
Vote:Abstain
Sigurd - 12 ( Kage, CR, shlin, sara, CA, JMonks, TP, TinCow, Warluster, Mak, Haudegen, Myrddraal)
Proletatriat - 2 (EMFM, Elite Ferret)
Tran - 3 (Little Grizzly, Prole, Sasaki)
TinCow - 1 (Sigurd)
Abstain - 3 ( Hiji, Ironside, Twilightblade)
edit fixed tally
Doesn't matter, but I voted for Tran, the Don who got a free walk this round.
Tran cannot be a Don. He has been in on multiple Stracchi hits. The only way he could kill as a Don would be if he was the only person left in his family. If that were true, his hit on Brave_Sir_Robin would have succeeded.
I had three townies protect Glenn that night. I was the one who asked them to protect Glenn. Way before everybody was buddy-buddy with Glenn and JimBob after Seamus write-up of Glenn's role.Quote:
Originally Posted by TinCow
Presently, I even wonder if it wasn't perhaps you after all, who did not send in his protection order for Glenn. Number four, 'X', only ever said that he could not find his protection order PM for Seamus in his outbox.
I mean, you do blatantly admit that you were already involved with setting up your mafia group on the night of Glenn's kill. Is this why you still persist, vehemently so, that I should be held responsible for Glenn's death, and not the three town players I got together for his protection? Scared to lose your connection to JimBob?
I know. You may be surprised to learn that I know the full list too. And there are a lot of 'criminals' on it, have been for the past few days. You were JimBob's close and trusted partner, you had access to this list all the time. You were aware of people showing up criminal all throughout your five nights of 'infiltration' of the Stracchi's. Yet, you did not manage to persuade your mafia group to kill criminals one single time? It isn't that hard to do. I immediately ran with the 'criminal' results I got from my town contacts to the Stracchi's. We killed Drisos on n1, there was no telling what his role was. For N2 and N3, I made sure I got myself investigation results together to find criminals, and then urged the family to attack those, instead of innocents.Quote:
JimBob did not list every result he has because he wanted to get more evidence on some of them. He has the full lists from each of the people that reported info to him.
Plus, lest we forget, you also operated Project Mayhem, sending the town's protection groups around. Did it not ever cross your mind that you could perhaps use this to protect the people that your family was planning to hit? I say it looks like you deliberatly had the town groups protect the wrong people. Again, so many town protection groups, and not a single nighttime protection was managed. :no:
Really TinCow, for five nights you go on a killing spree, for five nights you have prime access on investigation results from four detectives, for five nights you are in command of this town's protection groups.
The result? One hit after the other on innocents, and not a single save. :no:
I think it is pretty clear what has happened.
I did not have access to the list until after night 5. On night 5, all I was able to do was direct them away from people I knew to be townies, not towards people I knew to be mafia, since I had no conclusive proof about anyone. On night 6, the decision to encourage them towards Craterus was a group decision, not my own. On night 7, the Stracchi got scared of the townies and I could not talk them out of attacking them. That is why we moved on the Stracchis on night 7. Perhaps I could have been more effective, I don't know. Again, this is my first mafia game. Sorry if I'm not performing at the level of a veteran.Quote:
Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat
The only person this applies to is Motep. At the time that Motep was attacked, I had no information on what role he was at all. I had enough people for a vigilante group and two protection groups. The protection groups were targeted on people I knew to be pro-town and who seemed to me to be important to keep alive. If this is bad reasoning, I apologize for screwing it up. It seems I am now being accused of being bumbling and incompetent.Quote:
Plus, lest we forget, you also operated Project Mayhem, sending the town's protection groups around. Did it not ever cross your mind that you could perhaps use this to protect the people that your family was planning to hit?
I have so far organized three protection groups. Two on Night 5 and one on Night 6. None of the people the were protecting were attacked. I guess I just chose poorly.Quote:
I say it looks like you deliberatly had the town groups protect the wrong people. Again, so many town protection groups, and not a single nighttime protection was managed. :no:
Totally wrong. I was working on the 6th Family thing through Night 4. I've only had 3 turns to work since switching sides. I've only had access to detective results for 2 turns. Does this change your opinion at all?Quote:
Really TinCow, for five nights you go on a killing spree, for five nights you have prime access on investigation results from four detectives, for five nights you are in command of this town's protection groups.
The result? One hit after the other on innocents, and not a single save. :no:
Well, if voting's still open, I'll vote: TinCow. Little late in the game for silly retribution votes but Sigurd is a foregone conclusion anyway. Thanks for organising the hit, I think you should count yourself lucky it didn't succeed. And with this, I'll just say a little thank-you to whoever saved me (safe hands! ~;)).
Apologies for my inactivity over the last day or so.
"A skeptical star
Of lost generations
A blistering fascination
With visible scars
If this is all that I am - an abstract illusion
I'll fade into nothing to become a foregone conclusion"
-- Seven Ways Out
Sunset, Day Eight
"Sigurd Fafnesbane, you are judged guilty and sentenced to death," intoned Director JimBob -- with just the faintest hint of relish in his voice. "You will be taken to the beach and there placed in a modified lifeboat for your execution and funeral."
Sigurd looked up quizzically, but made no other reply. His arguments all evening had fallen on deaf ears -- the conclusion had been reached before it had even begun. He went with the guards stoically and the comittee followed.
When they reached the beach, Sigurd was escorted to the lifeboat and chained to one of its thwarts. The boat had been modified with plywood and canvas to resemble, at least vaguely, a Viking longboat. It reeked of gasoline and was stacked with straw.
"In the boat you will find a pistol, disassembled, with one bullet," said Jimbob. "The boat will be towed out by the tug you see there offshore," JimBob waived to the tug which started to ease forward at his signal. "If you hurry, you'll have the chance to save yourself from the flames...so please, take your time."
JimBob put a match to some of the straw, which lit quickly. The boat went out 100 yards fairly quickly and then the tug held it in position. Sigurd was bent over, ignoring the heat and ever-closing flames, hurriedly assembling the pistol intended for his coup de grace. As the flames reached his position and he began to burn, Sigurd stood erect and shouted at the shore.
"I may burn in Hell, but at least one of you <<wind carries this word away>> is going with me!"
Sigurd aimed at the shore with his pistol, rocking on the burning boat, and --ignoring the agony of his now burning legs -- squeezed off his only round at the Committee, aiming for JimBob. He missed, of course. 100 yards is a long way for a pistol and his aim wasn't the steadiest. He did, however, shoot johnhughthom through the left eye, killing him instantly. Sigurd collapsed as the flames soared over him. Seconds later the lifeboat blew to fragments.
"I added a bit of dynamite for a spectacle," said JimBob. "Officers, if two of you would please remove our dead committeman here? The rest of you are free to go, but remember that our work will continue."
The committee filed away, and night came again to Fatlington.
OOC
1. Night 8 begins now, with PMs due by 1300 25 February 2008 (1800 GMT). My schedule tomorrow does not permit me to run a 24 hour block, sorry for the delay.
2. Specific voting tally posted later by edit. Sigurd is lynched and johnhughthom removed from play.
Congratulations on a brilliant conduction of affairs, JimBob!
This loose collection of trusted townsfolk working for the greater good is what I tried to create - right before Louis cut out my heart.
Anyway, if no one else will listen - this is a message to JB - seeing as I barely participate and do not PM anymore.
(Because Louis betrayed me.. Thank you Louis.)
JimBob - for the love of hay, pay close attention to Proletariat, who sweetly graces the thread here and avoids all criticism.
You will notice that GeneralHankerchief is the only player who bothers to attack and throw suspicions on her!
Please note also, that GH and Proletariat were STRICTLY attacking only each other even before GH was killed!
GH is proven innocent - Proletariat is as fitting the description of a Don as ANY PLAYER!
Note that Sasaki was defending Proletariat - saying there was no great reason why she should be suspected as a don.
When Sasaki attacked and bandwagoned against me for the same sole reason that Proletariat should be considered.
Please, JimBob, townsfolk, don't let the Mafia waltz over your heads this easily... !!!
Hate to break the news to you, Glenno, but I am in fact guilty as sin. Evidently you haven't read the last couple of pages that closely.
As for Prole, who knows?
Just to clear up about norwegian players. I am norwegian but since something about norwegians, texans, and oil brought my fathers work to the gulf of mexico, So I am a norwegian player on a USofA IP adress.
Grtz,
the man who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men.
It's quiet in Fatlington... Almost too quiet.
I still lack numerou PMs, so those still alive need to get in touch.
Hi, sorry, stil alive, anyone needing vigging/doctoring/etc. help please contact me...
Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you, the new Don Stracci!Quote:
Originally Posted by Jubal_Barca
Yes I do you a favour and one day I may ask for one in return. A little portection now and then a kill later. Doesn't look good.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andres
NM.
That's interesting. At this point, only Kagemusha, Crazed Rabbit, Myrddraal and Shlin28 voted to have the hitman lynched yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andres
Musings about what I gather from yesterday's lynch scene:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sigurd
Sigurd is not a don. He was a mafia hitman. The funny thing is, that Andres confirmed this at the beginning of the lynch, before there was a bandwagon on Sigurd, and before Sigurd himself revealed that he was the Hitman. Sigurd later said that several mafiosi knew of his role.
And they knew of the Shadow. This shadow was a Dutchman, is not in Seamus write-up yet, and he lived long enough to order last night's attack on TinCow. Andres' partner Dutch_Guy perhaps?
There is no FBI evidence on Sigurd, this was a blatant lie. Logic dictates this, Sigurd is right. :yes:
The question is, Whether it was a well-intended lie to ease Sigurd’s lynching or something far worse, I still don’t know yet. Pity Sigurd was bandwagoned so easily, without much questioning.
I repeat Sigurd’s words: can we have an explanation, please?
There is something fishy going on somewhere, but I can't figure it out yet. ~:mecry:
Oh, might as well share it. There is an an attack points v defense points system in this game.
For example, the highest defense is a don, with approximately 90% defense points, ie. his odds of succesfuly repelling an attack. From what I gather, this lowers progressively for respectively: special roles, lucas, mades, wiseguys, townies.
For attack points, the list is something like, from highest to lowest: Sigurd, Crown/blade/shield, special roles, mafia, wiseguys, townies.
The attack v defense points of attacker(s) and defenders are then used to calculate the odds of a successful attack.
Sorry Seamus, but the system is obvious. ~;)
Edit:...or, at least I think it is. Odds are, of course, that my pompousity will succeed in making me look like a complete clown yet again once Seamus gives his final write-up at the end of the game. ~:mecry:
I wanted to let JimBob answer this himself, but he hasn't checked a single PM I've sent him for the last 3 days, so I'm assuming he hasn't been online. Therefore, in the interests of furthering an understanding of the situation, I will respond.Quote:
Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat
Yes, the FBI evidence on Sigurd was a lie. There was other evidence that we received that pointed to Sigurd's guilt. We were not 100% sure of his role, but given the totality of the evidence, a Don seemed likely. The lie was used so that the real source of the information would not be revealed. The fabrication of the FBI evidence was actually done at the suggestion of the FBI Detective, because he knew that no one else would come forward to dispute it. Don't bother asking who this was or how I know he was the real FBI Detective. I will not give that information out.
Apologies for the deception, but it was deemed to be necessary to protect the true source of the information on Sigurd. We knew he was pro-mafia and we knew he was powerful. Fingering him as a Don seemed a reasonable course to take under the circumstances. I personally believe Sigurd's statements about him being a Hitman, as that role would fit into the evidence I have seen. So, perhaps we did not get Don Corleone, but we did at least get someone very important. That's one less kill per night right there.
[edit:]Addendum: We do have a detective result (non-FBI) on Sigurd from Night 1 which shows him as Innocent. Since he is a self-admitted pro-mafia, take that for what it's worth. It seems to me to be one of three options: (1) Hitman role shows as innocent, at least on nights when he doesn't kill. (2) Detective results had a bad probability role for that investigation, when they otherwise would have shown him as criminal/guilty. (3) Sigurd was a Don.
Okay, so it was known that there was no FBI result on Sigurd.Quote:
Apologies for the deception, but it was deemed to be necessary to protect the true source of the information on Sigurd. We knew he was pro-mafia and we knew he was powerful. Fingering him as a Don seemed a reasonable course to take under the circumstances.
I have a second question: was it known that Sigurd wasn't a don?
Edit: There is something fishy going on somewhere, and I still haven't figured out what. ~:mecry:
I already answered that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat
Quote:
Originally Posted by TinCow
Are you going to tell us which other 'detective' results are actually a lie while you're at it? Or will you and JimBob only tell the town that after we've followed you up the garden path?Quote:
Originally Posted by TinCow
Louis, I agree with most of your points. You´re doing a good job, before and after your demise :bow:
But I suspect Moros was the shadow. He made a funny comment yesterday:Quote:
Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat
And there was something in the write-up that strongly suggests a special role:Quote:
Grtz,
the man who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men.
What are the bolded parts above based on? I don´t remember Sigurd or anyone else mentioning this.Quote:
Moros too registered as a Wiseguy with our sources, but there was something fishy there as well. We found a train/boat ticket to Havana hidden in the tank of his toilet as well as some kind of “brag” book featuring pictures of dead individuals with code words scrawled on the pictures – “Fauchard, Glaive….We’re just not sure what to make of it. I have a sneaking suspicion, however, that we’re better off without him
Edit: Ok, Moros isn´t exactly Dutch, but he is a Fleming, right?
I think he is going to the BlackSmith to forge the results.Quote:
Originally Posted by Makanyane
If you're going to continue pretending that you're a townie, I suggest you come with an explanation for being found guilty on Night 3. Oh, wait... I suppose all detective results supplied by JimBob are questionable now, despite his proven pro-town affinities! Ah, brilliant move, mafioso! :idea2:Quote:
Originally Posted by Makanyane
Good thing I persuaded the Stracchi not to work with you after JimBob fingered you. It would have made them look totally incompetent to let a mafia mole in after letting in two townies.
I would comment on it further if it weren't for the pesky detail of me being dead. I must use what is known or written in the thread already. ~:mecry:Quote:
Originally Posted by Haudegen
Sorry, could've shared this with you all:
Moros is Flemish.
Fauchard - some sort of 'blade'
Glaive - sword
~;)
Gah! Edit again: There is something fishy going on somewhere, and I still haven't figured out what. ~:mecry:
Night Phase is concluded. Writeup to follow. Next Day vote and selection starts with that posting.
Sasaki said that Moros was the Wolf, or whatever that role is called in this game. Other than Seamus, Sasaki would be best placed to recognise the signs, having been the Wolf in Capo 1.Quote:
Originally Posted by Haudegen
Hmm, didn´t Sigurd say that the shadow was the Capo-II equivalent of the wolf?Quote:
Originally Posted by Pannonian
Seems we are getting rid of quite a lot of mafia.
I'm not really in any position to blame tincow and jimbob too much since I omitted the fact that my source was a made when I first posted the results. But I was pretty careful to not say it was a detective. Avoid outright lies guys.
Sigurd is not a don. He was a mafia hitman. Mafioso Andres confirmed this at the beginning of the lynch. Sigurd later said that 'several mafiosi' knew of his role. And so did the Shadow. o, did the mafia try to get rid of Sigurd?
Here's what we know about Sigurd: he only killed people who had performed kills for the mafia. He has not killed anybody else, no innocent townsfolk. So the death of Sigurd was not necessarily a pro-town act.
There is no FBI evidence on Sigurd, this was a blatant lie. It was probably known that Sigurd wasn't a don either. The question is, whether it was a well-intended lie to ease Sigurd’s lynching or something far worse.
Speculation / random thoughts:
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
Are these two confirmed mafiosi now openly exchanging their due 'favours' in the thread, now that both the Shadow and the Hitman are dead?Quote:
Originally Posted by Northnovas to Andres
There is something fishy going on somewhere, and I still haven't figured out what. ~:mecry:
I think leet eriksson is from yemen or something.
oops..I suddenly realise that maybe I am crossing into a private, real life sphere. I shall let this subject rest. Players are of course free to discuss their origin and place of residence at their discretion.
Twlight'blade'?Quote:
Fauchard - some sort of 'blade'
This is main thread post #2518
Today's Program Will Be Interrupted By Acts Of Blood Vengeance
“…So here we are, Monsieur Derida.
Tell me what's so despicable
about a little enlightenment?
Because our little vendetta
has been cancelled due to bad weather.
Go ahead, please shed your wisdom.
You have no time to loose.
Oh, it's a long way home from here to downtown,
especially if it's uphill on both ways.
And I'll tell you about the Differance
If we just could meet again….”
-- “Awesome Deryck” Username at Tabcrawler.com
Summary, Night Eight:
Tran was as paranoid as the rest of the Committee, so when the fight broke out in front of him on the sidewalk in front of the restaurant at which he had planned to have a bite to eat, he quickly crossed the street.
<<Okay, let’s try Greek instead of Italian…>>
He was halfway across the street when he saw the car coming for him. Tran leapt sideways just before impact, and the car bounced off one of the nearby, parked cars and spun into the next intersection. Tran followed, gun out, ready to identify his attacker – or seek vengeance for himself. The battered car wasn’t out of commission yet, so the lone driver was able to get away from the scene.
Tran returned the gun to his holster, went back to the far side of the street, and warily resumed his walk towards dinner. After a few minutes, he finally began to relax – though he made a point to wait for ZERO traffic before crossing the next few intersections.
He had actually relaxed again by the time he neared “Athenos.” His musings about Spanikopita and Baklava were cut short as he reached the block where his restaurant was by the sudden arrival of a tall man wearing a pink ballerina outfit and full facemask pirouetting in front of him on the sidewalk. Tran went for his gun (wouldn’t you?). However, for one critical moment his attention was fixed on the “ballerina,” and that moment was all it took. Two pairs of strong arms grabbed his from behind, each of the men behind him hooking a leg to take it out of play – Tran was held tight!
“”Let go of me you scum-bags! Police! Anyone…” yelled Tran.
But this was Fatlington, and the formerly crowded street was rapidly emptying. The “ballerina” calmly reached down and removed his slippers. He quickly unraveled a thin wire cord from one slipper, attaching it to the other. He looped the garotte over Tran’s struggling head and pulled it tight just under his Adam’s apple. Tran kicked and struggled, gasping and strangling, but was unable to free himself. As consciousness started to fade, the “ballerina” spoke.
“Go to Hell, Stracci!”
Tran was left on the sidewalk. No witnesses ever came forward.
Sarathos had finished dinner and was having a brandy when he heard the commotion at the back of the restaurant – he just loved the salads here at “Athenos” – so he quickly downed his brandy and left by the front exit. He had a standing arrangement with the proprietor, so he knew he didn’t have to hang around and find out what trouble was gunning for him from the kitchen.
He’d reached his car and opened the door when the gunmen appeared on the sidewalk 50 feet in front of him. He reached into the holster he’d put in the door and came up with a little firepower of his own. His door took the first two blasts from the shotgun – armor can be a useful after-market option in Fatlington – and his return shots, though not on target, were more than enough to convince the shotgunner that hanging around on the sidewalk to reload and try again was a losing proposition. The gunman fled.
Sarathos quickly sat down to put some distance between himself and the scene.
<<Yaaawn,>> came from the man sitting behind him.
Sarathos spun his head quickly, so the stranger put the silenced double tap into his face instead of the back of his head. Same difference.
<<Hmmm,>> murmered the shooter.
The shotgunner returned to Sarathos’ car, dropped the rolled parchment on the passenger seat and then the two killers walked slowly away. When police found Sarathos an hour later, they read the scroll’s message: “il destino è inesorabile.” It had been neatly printed on it in Gothic script.
Proletariat strolled with confidence along the boardwalk to the new, much more secure, apartment building to which she had just moved. Despite all the attacks, things just seemed to “work out” for her. She’d developed a new fatalism about things, and her fears had largely subsided into a desire to know who was doing this – and for the chance to put a stop to it.
She was guarded in her motions of course – recklessness was not part of her nature (except perhaps in her willingness to try interesting new cuisines) – but she hadn’t counted on an entire span of the boardwalk collapsing and dumping her into the sand.
As Prole’ struggled to get back to her feet, a man in scuba gear complete with regulator – but wearing surgical gloves -- stepped toward her. She scrambled to get her gun up but the stranger was already moving to pull the cork on a small glass via he held…Another figure leapt from the boardwalk above and crashed into the chap in scuba gear knocking everybody – including Proletariat – flat. Prole’ lost her gun in the sand and her consciousness to the boot that had kicked her in the temple.
The two figures struggled for control, each trying to overcome the other. With a sudden surge of energy, the scuba-clad man flung the jumper away against one of the pilings on which the boardwalk rested. He turned towards Proletariat and knelt to retrieve the small glass vial from where it lay, resting on the white sand and reflecting the lights of Fatlington.
<<Crack!>>
The second stranger had found Prole’s gun and put one shot through the center of mass. The suit proved to be little protection against a .380 round and the first stranger collapsed onto the beach, dying. Proletariat’s rescuer staggered upright, went to Prole’ to confirm she was still alive, and then made his way into the night.
The police came in a few minutes. Proletariat was bruised and possibly concussed, but Evil_Maniac from Mars lay dead on the sands where he’d bled out from the wound in his back. The vial he’d dropped contained some kind of nerve agent so secret that the Government never told Fermanagh’s inspectors what they’d found (Sarin). Another vial found in EMM’s drysuit pocket contained sodium hydroxide with a small label reading “Musashi” attached to it. This was never fully explained.
Makanyane had gotten through most of her evening pretty quietly. Dinner had been unremarkable, but the picture – “All the King’s Men” – was simply brilliant. Sleazy politics, political corruption – all the good stuff. She brushed her teeth, pulled off the body armor, put on a Summer nightgown and tucked herself in. She reached over to turn off the light…
“Nice pins, Mak,” said a muffled voice from her bedroom doorway. “Too bad you’re a filthy criminal.”
Makanyane was bolt upright in an instant, but the figure in the doorway only needed to tighten one finger.
<<Crack!>>
The gunshot sounded more like a cannon in the small room – hardly surprising since a .577 Webley carries a heck of a charge and the man behind the gun had up-grained the ammunition he filled for himself. The shot struck Makanyane in the middle of her sternum, punching through it and her heart with little effort on its way to a mushrooming impact with her spine – shattering that and severing her spinal cord. She slammed back into a sitting position against her headboard, eyes wide with shock, the light fading from them even as she stared at her killer.
“Say goodnight, Gracie.”
Fade to black.
Morning Meeting, Day Nine
“…So, anyway, it was a wild night, saints preserve us,” said commissioner Fermanagh, “we’ll know better what to make of it after we’ve investigated a few things. Now, for the latest results…”
“You lynched a Wiseguy – Xdeathfire – and we’ve been able to confirm his involvement in a few killings, though we have no particulars, just word on the street. As to the others, ajaxfetish and Lt. Pinard were townies with no known crime involvement, while Louis VI was a criminal who’d been involved in some of the Stracci murders – no surprise there I guess. FactionHeir was the surprise. “Word” and some of the tidbits we’ve dug up suggest he was a Made Gangster in one of the families. His death is a clear advantage for the town. We’re not through this yet, folks, but we’re having some success – at least with the smaller fish.”
JimBob took over the meeting as Fermanagh finished.
“Okay folks, remember we have to select a Director today, as well as lynch some scum…”
OOC
1. Day Nine is both a Vote and Selection (for 10/11) phase. Deadline for votes/selections will be 1600 EST 26 Feb 08 (2100 GMT).
2. Results of investigations will follow later tonight.
3. Updated List of Players:
Still Alive: (37) Alexander the Pretty Good, Big King Sanctaphrax, Brave Sir Robin, Caeser the III, Caius, Charge, CountArach, Cowhead418, Craterus, Crazed Rabbit, Draco Leman, Elite Ferret, gibsonsg91921, Haudegen, Hiji, Ichigo, Ironside, JimBob, Joe Monks, Jubal_Barca, Kagemusha, KukriKhan, Leet Erikson, LittleGrizzly, Myrrdraal, norwegian nerd, Proletariat, Roadkill, Sasaki Kojiro, scottishranger, shlin28, TinCow, TruePraetorian, Twilightblade, Warluster, Xehh II.
Attacked: (29) Andres (N2, N3), Beefy187 (N1), Brave Sir Robin (N7), Caius (N3), Craterus (N6), Crazed Rabbit (N6), Cowhead418 (N2), Evil_Maniac from Mars (N3), GeneralHankerchief (N2, N3), Glenn (N1, N2), Kagemusha (N6), Proletariat (N4, N4, N5, N6, N7, N8), Sasaki Kojiro (N5, N7), taka (N2), Tran (N5, N7, N8), TinCow (N7), Twilightblade (N4, N5), Xdeathfire (N1)
Murdered: (26) Drisos (N1), Lord Winter (N2), Beefy187 (N3), Glenn (N3), Pannonian (N3), taka (N3), The Stranger (N3), Zorg (N3), GeneralHankerchief (N4), Kommodus (N4), Moros (N4), Xiahou (N4), Chimpyang (N5), Kamikhaan (N5), Motep (N5), Rythmic, (N5), woad&fangs (N5), ajaxfetish (N6), FactionHeir (N6), Lt. Pinard (N6), Louis VI the Fat (N6), Husar (N7), NorthNovas (N7), Evil_Manica from Mars (N8), Makanyane (N8), Sarathos (N8), Tran (N8)
Lynched: (8) pevergreen (D2), Hannibalbarca (D3), Tiberius of the Drake (D3), Omanes Alexandrapolites (D4), Andres (D5), Xdeathfire (D6), Dutch_guy (D7), Sigurd Fafnesbane (D8)
Removed from Play: (8) Fahad I (D4), Killfr3nzy (D4), x-dANGEr (D4), Sapi (N4), Warmaster Horus (N5), Rob_the_Celt (N5), molonthegreat (N5), johnhughthom (D8)
Select:Jimbob
Select:Caius
I'd like to point out that there are at least 10 members alive that are posting in other games, but not in this.
hahaha attacking prole finally bit them in the back. The mafia are on their last gasp it seems. Tran, mak, and emfm died and they only managed one kill?
Select JimBob:
Don't know who's up for lynching today.
Oh yes, Vote:KukriKhan
Two confirmed mafioso dead (Tran and Makanyane) and only two mafia attacks on townies, one of which backfired due to a surgeon and resulted in a third mafioso death (EMFM). Looks to me like we're doing well. Keep up the good work, guys.
Select: JimBob
Figured that would happen. Am I allowed to explain why I targeted her?
Am I allowed to explain why I did it and what I really was?Quote:
Originally Posted by TinCow
I guess that means ´no´Quote:
Originally Posted by Evil_Maniac From Mars
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The dead may post, but not vote/select nor carry out any night actions. Dead players may not reveal their roles publicly or privately until that role has been revealed as per section V and may not reveal their “familiy” or role particulars even after that time. Dead players may not quote from a PM unless that PM has been posted in the public thread by a living player. Dead players may not reveal, recount or allude to their previous night actions (or results thereof in the case of investigations) publicly or privately – even to confirm a previously made public or private reveal. Remember, even if dead you can still score well provided your “side” achieves victory. Your participation must be circumspect, but your continued participation IS encouraged.
*cough* according to the dodgy results being fed to JimBob only.Quote:
Originally Posted by TinCow
Mentions again things said in thread previously; with my dying breath...
An apparently rather old detective result appeared on me only after I FoS'd Sasaki in this thread. Sasaki has already admitted channelling results from a made....
TinCow has already said that two results issued by JimBob weren't actually detective results (one an error, one a deliberate lie), but very clearly not all the results claimed are coming from genuine pro-town detectives.
That's all folks - it was nice knowing you - good luck to the town, but do try and pay attention! :thumbsup:
Pity. I'll tell after the game is done. You may well be surprised by my role.
I know who supplied the information, and it did not come from Sasaki.Quote:
Originally Posted by Makanyane
The error was never claimed to be detective results in the first place. The error was on TruePraetorian, and if you re-read JimBob's post you will note the specific information used to FoS him had nothing to do with detective results. It was based on vigilante group results that turned out to be inaccurate because Seamus made a mistake. Don't exaggerate the Sigurd situation into something larger.Quote:
Originally Posted by Makanyane
Vote:shlin28
It makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside to learn that your decision to keep Mak out of our little mafia family was based on not making us look too incompetent. I'm guessing you didn't take that into the equation when you betrayed us ? ~;)Quote:
Originally Posted by TinCow
:balloon2:
I can't see why mafia would go after prole constantly so it's entirely possible. I'll be curious to hear why.Quote:
Originally Posted by Evil_Maniac From Mars
Select:Jimbob
I don't know who tp vote for now. I would reckon that prole was used as a target to "farm" a surgeon. I don't think that EMFM was mafia because of this.
This is something Prole mentioned.
Joe
select: JimBob
vote: Hiji
Hiji was identified as guilty before and very heavily defended Sigurd, who admitted to being a hitman.
LOL, sorry Dutch_guy. That was meant as a dig at Mak, not you. You were the Stracchi that trusted me the least, so you certainly do not deserve criticism.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dutch_guy
Vote: Hiji
As noted previously, confirmed guilty on N4. I'd prefer to whittle down the list of known mafia before we start looking at more questionable targets.
Why did you pm me Sasaki? Did you really believe I was the wolf? ~;p
Gotcha.
If I only could vote...
EDIT: ****** smiley didn't work
Select: JimBob
Vote: Abstain
I didn't pm you moros. I don't believe I've said anything about you besides putting your name on my scum list day 1 or 2.
Eh, it's possible that EMFM was another Hitman so he didn't really have a choice to attack someone else if he received the same orders every night. Another idea would be a psycho who can only attack a new target once the current one is dead, meaning he cannot switch targets because he's some weirdo who wants to get things done before moving on. ~D
But this kinda proves the surgeon story I told some time ago, hehe.
Select: JimBob
Vote: Abstain
Don't know who to vote for right now, it may change.
By the way, is there a confirmed count on Mafia/pro-mafia characters dead? pro-mafia as in "the hitman", and even Sigurd isnt confirmed yet, so just confirmed dead.
JimBob's list from pg 74, post #2208:
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
select: Jim Bob
vote: Hiji
Q: Is Ichigo still playing? He posted "I quit.", yet his name still appears as among the living characters in play (and a killer on n5, according to JimBob).
Select: JimBob
Can someone update the list of still alive confirmed scum?
EDIT: Thank you KK :bow:
I guess it's Hiji
Unvote:KukriKhan,Vote:Hiji
Vote: Abstain
Again I have no prefrence
come on Twilightblade you must be something special. Because there is no point in being in the game if you keep abstaining.
So your either mafia
or
special town but if your a special you would have to have some more knowledge then most and would be able to vote against someone.
soo
Mafia :inquisitive:
Vote:Abstain
for now anyway
Is there any investigation results on Twighliteblade?
Also, isn't xdeathfire dead? His name keeps appearing in the living players list.
From JimBob's list:Quote:
Originally Posted by woad&fangs
Xdeath = attempted (failed) hit Night 1.Quote:
Twilightblade - Rank and Family Unknown - Investigated and found criminal on Night 4
Maybe you remember x-danger being WoGged on Day 4.
-edit-
wait Xdeath lynched day 6. You're right.
xdeath was lynched instead of dutch guy.
correct :bow:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
Thank goodness for Andres' 'story thread' to skip thru results. Still a long read.
That would be so cool! A special role that allows you to order a player to keep attacking the same person over and over. Turn this into 'Groundhog Day mafia' for him. :beam:Quote:
Originally Posted by Husar
Ah, well, of all the innocents, Prole is now the most of the hook for don. Luca is luca, surgeon is surgeon.
I do feel a bit sorry for EMFM. There was probably some red text or role requirement. For the last few days, the mafia had given up on attacking Prole. They were all single attacker attempts - which indicates special role.
EMFM must be dying to tell us something right now. Poor lad, he definately drew the short stick in this game. :embarassed:
*****
Only one family managed to kill last night. The firepower is all but gone for most families. But who are the dons?
*****
The list:
TruePraetorian was cleared, I believe? Don't remember.
Charge and Twilightblade could be anything. On N3 and N4 there were lots of mafia kills, neither showed up guilty, so odds are that they are simply wiseguys.
Hiji, on the other hand, was caught killing on n4... clear choice for a lynch.
Tomorrow will be difficult.
*****
No, just some sort of medieval weapon, a 'blade' on a long pole, don't know what they are called in English. It is an allusion to the 'crown, blade, sword' trio of Glenn, JimBob and WoG.Quote:
Originally Posted by Caius
'I'd like to point out that there are at least 10 members alive that are posting in other games, but not in this.'
Which ones?
*****
Yeah, Seamus made a mistake. Xdeathfire died on the night that I survided that attack. I think Seamus confused the two of us and so I ended up on the death players list. :no:Quote:
Also, isn't xdeathfire dead? His name keeps appearing in the living players list.
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Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat
Yeah, i was cleared. The evidence JimBob had saying i was mafia came from Seamus screwing up in his night post...but he didn't want to change it because it "already sounded good, but it shouldn't be that much of a problem." TinCow then thought i was mafia, so i had to send him the PM Seamus sent me about making the mistake. TinCow then appologiesed and posted that he had made a mistake.
As for lynching, unvote: abstain
vote: Hiji
we should really get a tally going so we dont lose track...my internet is terrible so ill try.
I don't think TP was cleared as in proven innocent. The charges against him were just shown to be false.
There was; but I'm six feet under now.Quote:
Originally Posted by woad&fangs
Kommodus was mafia and he said he thought crazed rabbit had a role. Why didn't he kill him then?
Wow, the mafia's firepower has really gone down in the last few rounds. They really seem to be weak, and they're about to get even weaker.
Vote: Hiji and Select: JimBob
Or they just want us to thin that so we'll get complacent.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cowhead418
Vote: Hiji
Select: Jimbob
Too bad Jimbob didn't online (and still doesn't) and read my PM.
Apparently people still believe the myth that I was a Made / Mafia... :2thumbsup:
I have made a list of inactive players. All those mentioned have been inactive in the thread for at least four full day and night phases.
name / # of postings / last activity.
alexander the pretty good - 3 - 02-11-2008
bks - 5 - 02-07-2008
draco leman - 2 - 02-05-2008
leet erickson - 2 - 02-11-2008
gibsonsg - 3 - 02-13-2008
Perhaps some families are crippled because some of their members are inactive? :2thumbsup:
Hmm Haudegen, did you notice if there were any innactives who have been inactive longer than some people who were Wogged?
Not getting Wogged could mean they have a role, and are being active by PM but not in the thread, which could lead us to the mafia.