Sweet Realistic Medieval Combat (Mount and Blade)

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Originally Posted by issaikhaan

Best normal weapon? Um... I'd say its open to interpretation. Morningstar is fine, plenty of the swords are fine. I wouldn't say any particular regular sword is mind blowingly better.

But, the best weapon(s) in the game? Pretty easy, imo, but spoilered for the fact that its *pseudo-secret*, or whatever you might wanna call it. Just gonna say you need a few qualis gems for it.

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Enchanted claymore or glaive or really about anything from the Aziz mines. You need one gem to buy the map to the place(it has a random spawn point at some place in the middle of nowhere). Then you need a gem to buy the weapon from the smith, then a third gem to buy an enchantment. In the old versions, I preferred Ruby because it gave your weapon the piercing quality. Absolutely devastating on the glaive, from experience, but I imagine the claymore would be similar.

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Don't ruin it for him!!!!!!!!!!!!

but yeah those would be the ones

I found that the D'shar Heavy Sabre (looted it, dont even want to imagine what it would cost to buy) is so far the best weapon for someone on horseback, at least mid-game. With a crazy length for a sword, something like 120-125 it can do massive damage. And its really fast, a speed of 102 I think.

Downloading PoP now, native got so boring, don't even bother finishing it.

It's like yeah... I can defeat everyone, it's the same thing over and over again.

Btw it's pretty retarded I have to download it as RAR.

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Originally Posted by Drunk Clown

Downloading PoP now, native got so boring, don't even bother finishing it.

It's like yeah... I can defeat everyone, it's the same thing over and over again.

Btw it's pretty retarded I have to download it as RAR.

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Agreed, I look back and all I can think is "wow, Native was so easy...."

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Originally Posted by Drunk Clown

Downloading PoP now, native got so boring, don't even bother finishing it.

It's like yeah... I can defeat everyone, it's the same thing over and over again.

Btw it's pretty retarded I have to download it as RAR.

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It's huge. And you won't be beating anybody in POP for awhile......

MWAHAHA

seriously if you come tell us that POP is too easy I don't want to hear it. You play with easy settings of course native got too easy for you.

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Originally Posted by Centurion1

It's huge. And you won't be beating anybody in POP for awhile......

MWAHAHA

seriously if you come tell us that POP is too easy I don't want to hear it. You play with easy settings of course native got too easy for you.

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Yeah, I played native on normal damage to me and normal to my allies.

And we all know how good you are, but just shut up if you don't have anything to say which you haven't said before.

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Originally Posted by Drunk Clown

Yeah, I played native on normal damage to me and normal to my allies.

And we all know how good you are, but just shut up if you don't have anything to say which you haven't said before.

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sorry you misunderstood me it wasnt supposed to be partronizing i worded it wrong. Sorry. :bow:

TBH Cent you sometimes do come off as being hard on those who arent as good as you. Just sayin'.

Also, I hate the Noldor. With a passion. Bastards killed a third of my force. I had 96, they had 30, they killed 32 of my men.

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Originally Posted by Hooahguy

TBH Cent you sometimes do come off as being hard on those who arent as good as you. Just sayin'.

Also, I hate the Noldor. With a passion. Bastards killed a third of my force. I had 96, they had 30, they killed 32 of my men.

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your really good and have a good army if thats all you lost. noldor are elves. and they are the supermen of the game. how many actual noldor did you fight?

i just tend to stay away from them once i make friends because its too painful to watch even knighthood troops and hero adventurers die like flies from far away.

and im not very good at this game especially not pop.

5 hours of download, for only 511 MB.

Man that sucks.

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Originally Posted by Hooahguy

TBH Cent you sometimes do come off as being hard on those who arent as good as you. Just sayin'.

Also, I hate the Noldor. With a passion. Bastards killed a third of my force. I had 96, they had 30, they killed 32 of my men.

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If you really want a nightmare, imagine having absolutely no idea what they were, seeing twelve of them, attacking with your band of about 50, led by a character who thinks he's a horse archer. I think I went down in like eight seconds after taking an arrow to the face from about 60 yards out.

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Originally Posted by Centurion1

your really good and have a good army if thats all you lost. noldor are elves. and they are the supermen of the game. how many actual noldor did you fight?

i just tend to stay away from them once i make friends because its too painful to watch even knighthood troops and hero adventurers die like flies from far away.

and im not very good at this game especially not pop.

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I think it was only like 12 actual Noldor. Not sure.

Ok so I got messages that the Mystmountain bandits and the Jatu banded together. A few days later, I got attacked by like 300 Jatu raiders. Needless to say, I left some guys behind and fled. I might have lost 30 good men, but it beats losing 120 good men.

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Originally Posted by Hooahguy

Ok so I got messages that the Mystmountain bandits and the Jatu banded together. A few days later, I got attacked by like 300 Jatu raiders. Needless to say, I left some guys behind and fled. I might have lost 30 good men, but it beats losing 120 good men.

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ive never heard oft hat message or a group of 300 jatu. armies come in like 500 and up. they likely werent all jatu but rescued prisoners.

Any tips where to start? And then what to do? (PoP) Story isn't very obvious.

Do you guys have the music enabled? Cos I have it disabled. Not that the music is bad, but the music doesn't kick in at the right moment. Sometimes it's complete silence. Sometimes one music piece starts and it goes silent after a 15 seconds.

Are you kidding me? The music is one of the best parts!

For starting out, I do a couple things.
1) I determine if I want to become a vassal of a faction.
2) I determine the type of troops I want to recruit.

When these things are determined, I set myself up to accomplish this as best as possible.
For instance, if I wanted to be a vassal of the Empire and get Empire troops, I would start at Janos.
I pick up small missions, then go from there. I also find that starting as an impoverished noble is the best because you can get a reasonable sized force from the start since your renown is already at 115. And it makes joining a faction much easier.

I do agree with you that the music is great, but it always starts (for example) when I just finished the battle or when I'm at mid. Instead of immediately when the battle starts the music begins, the first half of the battle it's silence.

I started as Empire too, but my troops keep dying. The light infantry (before pike men and heavy infantry) have scythes or something. When they attack they can't make a hit cos they are too close and as a result they get slaughtered >:|.

BTW do Empire have cavalry?

Yeah, the Empire does have cavalry, but Im not sure how to recruit them. I had one Empire Knight in my party who I rescued from a Sarlon lord, but he was killed as I fled a Jatu army of like 300. Oh well.

And about the Empire light infantry, Im not sure why that happens, its a problem with the game engine. What I did is I got some cheap mercs and put them at the top of the list for deployment and the light infantry towards the bottom so the LI would get some XP without having to be in battle so much.

Do you guys play PoP on normal difficulty? Because it's not really fun, when you get picked of your horse by a crossbowman and die immediately.

Also can you get Noldor units? They are insanely strong.

I do half damage for me, full damage for my men. I agree, its way too frustrating to have one shot one kill. Call me yellow, but I enjoy the game much more this way.

I still play native and am having fun with it :P

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Originally Posted by Drunk Clown

Do you guys play PoP on normal difficulty? Because it's not really fun, when you get picked of your horse by a crossbowman and die immediately.

Also can you get Noldor units? They are insanely strong.

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there are ways to get some. i never do it its a waste.

yeah i play on full difficulty. later on once you know all the tricks and couching a demonic magni in the face is routine you realize you have to up the difficulty or it becomes too repetitive.

as for where to start ill say exactly what i told hooah. read the faq on taleworlds.com

seriously i never read manuals or rules or do tutorials usually because i like that first play through where your blind but you really sort of have to for pop.

at least read the game concepts in your journal.

So, yeah, here I am having a lot of high armor early in the game. (for example Helmet of 52 armor is high right?) Still, I die within a few shots of Sarleon Bowmen. Are there even stronger armor? Or do I have to live with the fact that I can always be shot and almost immediately die from a bolt coming from the other side of the battlefield?

its stronger but thats pretty decent protection.

this mod is known for being ridiculously difficult.

The strongest head armor Ive seen is one with 62 armor. As for body armor, Ive seen 63. Leg, Ive seen 44.

For those who like PoP and role-playing there is one going on in the PoP forums.
Register here.

Ebony Gauntlet eh, you and Cent run out of toilet paper or something?

I might give PoP another blast haven't played in ages and pretty much give up hope of the Brytenwalda team releasing a version where they just fix the bugs, rather than add a bunch of new stuff with new bugs. Does PoP have the Freelancer mod built in?

no it doesnt but i am pleased to say it is essentially bug free and in about three months they will have a completely new version (and i mean like a different map and everything)

best warband mod on the table and will be so until POP 4.

Edit: Once i realized the joke I needed some toilet paper from how hard I laughed :wink:

That link Hooah posted looks interesting, how does it work, is it in game or forum based?

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Originally Posted by johnhughthom

That link Hooah posted looks interesting, how does it work, is it in game or forum based?

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Forum based. Obviously many of us are trying to develop in game characters for avatars and such. Its turning out to be quite enjoyable and with so many developers on board it probably won't die which is the primamry concern of these sorts of things.

If you do join I expect either an Ebony Gauntlet member!

Seriously though if you join avoid silvermist, eventide and griffon their numbers are huge already and the ebonies arent hurting for more members themselves. shadow legion and knights of the dawn need more members though.

personally the dawn would have been my second choice since they are bad ***

I'll have a wee look through over the next few days, but I'm not sure I have the time, I don't like signing up for things like that and not taking part properly. If I do join I'll certainly be becoming another poopy gauntlet.

hahaha.

yeah if you arent in a position of power you dont really need to put that much time in.

What is Pop. I thought it was a mod and now that roleplay link has confused me. Is it a multiplayer MOD? Can I make my Avatar Fat? I'll read the instructions...

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Originally Posted by Major Robert Dump

What is Pop. I thought it was a mod and now that roleplay link has confused me. Is it a multiplayer MOD? Can I make my Avatar Fat? I'll read the instructions...

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It's the best,(probably the second best once TLD is released) mod for M&B out there. Started by a chap who goes by the nick 'saxondragon'. It's got a coherent story, and a rich background lore to it, as far as mods go that is.
If you haven't you really should try it out.

Erm, its not for Warband it seems. I guess I will see if I can purchase and old version for DL, whihc is funny, because between changing PCs over the years that will be the 5th version of Vanilla I have purchases.

Warband version.

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Originally Posted by Major Robert Dump

I guess I will see if I can purchase and old version for DL, whihc is funny, because between changing PCs over the years that will be the 5th version of Vanilla I have purchases.

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Register your key on the Taleworlds website this time and you will never have to buy it again.

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Originally Posted by Major Robert Dump

Erm, its not for Warband it seems. I guess I will see if I can purchase and old version for DL, whihc is funny, because between changing PCs over the years that will be the 5th version of Vanilla I have purchases.

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yes it is lol.

click on my signature it will take you to their forum,

also just register your key like john said you wasteful man.

Just came to this game a week or two ago and have been enjoying Native Warband and the Diplomacy mod greatly. I want to get into PoP next but had some trouble getting the install to work. I'm sure some time checking their forums will fix that...

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Originally Posted by Zim

Just came to this game a week or two ago and have been enjoying Native Warband and the Diplomacy mod greatly. I want to get into PoP next but had some trouble getting the install to work. I'm sure some time checking their forums will fix that...

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What problems did you get? As I had problems too.

So there is a warband version....good

I actually think I registered my key, I need to look in to that, I just forgot I could get it that way because it's been so long. I remember this game when it was $2.99 and the taleworld forum had like 12 threads.

You lot might have probably already seen these, since they're nearly an year old, but I just found them while scouring for more TLD previews.
Simply awesome.

Town/Castle scenes
Gondor troops
Evil troops

The scenes look very pretty. On the downside, since they're only porting to M&B 1.011, the troops look detailed, but graphically dull....specially after playing Warband.

All right I have a question. Does destroying factions affect the overall number of caravans that will roam through Calradia? Does it also affect what cities do they visit?
If so is there any way to offset this effect and maintain city prosperity? Because I destroyed Nords, Swadians, Veigers and Sarrinids, and all of a sudden, one by one all my outlying cities are becoming poor.....

I would also appreciate general tips on maintaining city prosperity.

For Vanilla, the caravans are based on the city. The caravan size is based on the prosperity of the faction.

The prosperity of a city as I understand it is based on loyalty and caravan accessibility. If caravans cannot get in or out because of bandits, you may consider vassaling out villages along the caravan route, so the owner patrols the caravan routes. Don't split up the vassals land, keep him/her with adjacent properties if you are going to give them more than one. Keep in mind that dumping a lot of land on one vassal will make his army cumbersom and unable to catch bandits, however, cumbersome armies are better for wars. You just have to keep a balance.

I am aiming for a few vassals with lots of land for the big armies, and several guys with just a small property contigency so I can keep them in the rear to patrol the hood. You can also give them orders to patrol a certain area.

Also, the bigger your caravan the better it will hold up vs bandits.

If anyone has some spare time, you should burn the Pop Warband mod to a CD and mail it to me in the stan. Should only cost like $2. I can't get it here, the transfer rate is too slow and the DL always times out. Torrents are not an option. PM me for address.

the stan?

Afghanistan.

Ill mail you a dvd with a bunch of mods on it, including pop, all for the most updated vs of M&B:Warband?

Groovy, thanks!

Sorry, I've been out of town. I get an error message "Unable to open file: CommonRes/costumes_a.brf". I haven't checked it out yet. I likely missed part of the instalation instructions or something.

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Originally Posted by Drunk Clown

What problems did you get? As I had problems too.

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Originally Posted by Zim

Sorry, I've been out of town. I get an error message "Unable to open file: CommonRes/costumes_a.brf". I haven't checked it out yet. I likely missed part of the instalation instructions or something.

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That's exactly what I had.

Did you check if you downloaded the right version?
This one is the one you need for Warband: http://www.mbrepository.com/file.php?id=1011
This one is the one you need for Mount and Blade: http://www.mbrepository.com/file.php?id=2679

I downloaded the wrong one and as a result got the CommonRes/costumes_a.brf error.

Thanks. Looks like that was the problem. Now to find some time to play...

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Originally Posted by Drunk Clown

That's exactly what I had.

Did you check if you downloaded the right version?
This one is the one you need for Warband: http://www.mbrepository.com/file.php?id=1011
This one is the one you need for Mount and Blade: http://www.mbrepository.com/file.php?id=2679

I downloaded the wrong one and as a result got the CommonRes/costumes_a.brf error.

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Veho Nex is the man.

This POP MOD is hard. I am playing on hardest settings. Have had to start over several times with new characters. May tweek a stat file to give myself at least a few points to start, probably in CHAR and leadership skills to compensate for the fact that I am a squishy

I played the original, beta version of mount and blade waaaaay back, wasn't that impressed. I saw Warband for cheap during the steam sale and my interest was piqued. Decided i couldn't wait and bought it.

What the hell. This is... good. Incredibly good! I know, i know, way late to the party. But this game was responsible for wrecking my entire saturday afternoon. I can't help but still be a little charged. ~D On the recommendations of this thread I installed POP, and yeah its really hard. REALLY hard to be exact, but its difficult to complain with the quality it shows. Really loving the freedom of the SP game and the whole "Here's a sandbox, make yourself famous" approach to gaming, i loved it in SM: Pirates! and i'm really enjoying it here.

Though i got that sinking feeling when it comes to the faction I aligned with. Poor Sarleon is getting her back-end handed to her by the Empire in war after war. The hilarious/great thing about it is, as the kingdom heads into decline around me, my own star is shining ever brighter - as I'm working with a coalition of northern lords to keep our backyards clear of brigands and Jatu raiders - and winning almost every tournament in the realm. If i could just get a few more fiefs to my name I could probably break off from Sarleon and make my own faction. Here's hoping!

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Seriously. Buy this game. :skull:

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I played the original, beta version of mount and blade waaaaay back, wasn't that impressed.

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You're a monster!

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Originally Posted by Alexander the Pretty Good

You're a monster!

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I make no apologies for not liking it! It was buggy and an unplayable mess imo, it still needed a lot of work to become the great game it eventually did. But credit where it's due, it got there and i'm a fool for not playing it much sooner. ~:)

The Last Days mod for the original Mount & Blade released soon.

I wonder why they didn't go ahead and port it to Warband...

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Originally Posted by johnhughthom

The Last Days mod for the original Mount & Blade released soon.

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Just got back from a trip and saw this on Taleworlds!! :elephant: :elephant: :elephant:

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Originally Posted by Alexander the Pretty Good

I wonder why they didn't go ahead and port it to Warband...

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AFAIK the guys are all tried, and they were working on this mod because they did not want to leave it unfinished. By what they said on their Facebook page, they don't have any current plans to port it to Warband. That shouldn't be an issue though as long as they permit others to do it in their stead.

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Originally Posted by Alexander the Pretty Good

I wonder why they didn't go ahead and port it to Warband...

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Is Warband much better from regular Mount and Blade from a single player point of view? I passed on the expansion, as I could not discern much benefit.

I still mainly play the 0.77 or whatever version of M&B that the old TLD works for, but when I compare the engine with the 1.0+ one I use for the vanilla campaign, I don't see much of a difference.

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Originally Posted by econ21

Is Warband much better from regular Mount and Blade from a single player point of view? I passed on the expansion, as I could not discern much benefit.

I still mainly play the 0.77 or whatever version of M&B that the old TLD works for, but when I compare the engine with the 1.0+ one I use for the vanilla campaign, I don't see much of a difference.

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I'll be honest, the difference between regular and Warband single player is minor, Warband is certainly superior, but the difference was not worth forking out for a new game. Taleworlds lost a lot of the goodwill I had toward them with Warband.

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Originally Posted by johnhughthom

I'll be honest, the difference between regular and Warband single player is minor, Warband is certainly superior, but the difference was not worth forking out for a new game. Taleworlds lost a lot of the goodwill I had toward them with Warband.

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Uhh, multiplayer?

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Originally Posted by Alexander the Pretty Good

Uhh, multiplayer?

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Not worth buying a new game, not even when the small additions to singleplayer are taken into account. I'm not overly bothered as I paid peanuts for regular Warband, but I expect serious improvements in M&B 2, or it'll be the last time Taleworlds see my money.

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Originally Posted by johnhughthom

Not worth buying a new game, not even when the small additions to singleplayer are taken into account. I'm not overly bothered as I paid peanuts for regular Warband, but I expect serious improvements in M&B 2, or it'll be the last time Taleworlds see my money.

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Multiplayer definitely made it worth it for me.

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You have 10 seconds till I add you to the list of Vaegir casualties!

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What a shame...

The Last Days due tomorrow.

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Originally Posted by rajpoot

The Last Days due tomorrow.

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Sweet! Why couldn't they wait till after midterms though?!

Ladies and gentlemen, after years of waiting, it has been released.

The Last Days for Mount and Blade v 1.011.

Do not miss this one.

Yay! I will play this next spring when it is on it's 2nd or 3rd version and I can play it proper: with a cigar and a glass of scotch.

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Originally Posted by Major Robert Dump

Yay! I will play this next spring when it is on it's 2nd or 3rd version and I can play it proper: with a cigar and a glass of scotch.

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lol, I downloaded it yesterday, before they even put the links up. :P I loved that old version too much to not play the new one.

Quick update: This is the greatest M&B mod to ever have been released. The only definitely negative thing I can say is that it will make you fail your classes it is so addictive. The Last Days is a masterpiece. After 40 hours of gameplay, not a single crash (4 year old laptop).

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Quick update: This is the greatest M&B mod to ever have been released. The only definitely negative thing I can say is that it will make you fail your classes it is so addictive. The Last Days is a masterpiece. After 40 hours of gameplay, not a single crash (4 year old laptop).

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Seconded...although it has been crashing all the time on my PC....I finally had to reduced the graphics and the battle size.
Also I think they've already released a weekend patch for it.

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Seconded...although it has been crashing all the time on my PC....I finally had to reduced the graphics and the battle size.
Also I think they've already released a weekend patch for it.

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I am playing on the lowest graphic settings, with DX7 rendering (it is all my PC can handle...but my PC is a dino). I have only turned on DX9 rendering so I could look at the breath-taking beauty of Minas Tirith (I still cannot believe that they created the entire city like that...it is the most magnificent thing I have ever seen in a game. I spent 15 minutes just wandering around in it) and the Hornburg (which I am equally as impressed by).

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OMG, TLD ported? :shocked3: *rushes away to DL*
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Originally Posted by Mouzafphaerre

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OMG, TLD ported? :shocked3: *rushes away to DL*
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It hasn't been ported, it's on the original M&B, not Warband.

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Originally Posted by johnhughthom

It hasn't been ported, it's on the original M&B, not Warband.

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Oh, yes, it's been ported indeed: finally, years later, from 0.8x to the final version. :jumping: Never meant WB. ~;)
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The 1866 mod for M&B (haven't got WB yet) has kept me going for 6 months now! It's almost exclusively what I play whenever I get the chance.
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I still play original M&B Warband (and M&B With Fire and Sword) and still haven't got tired of them. I think M&B is the only game that I have played so long without trying any mods for it.

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Originally Posted by The King

I still play original M&B Warband (and M&B With Fire and Sword) and still haven't got tired of them. I think M&B is the only game that I have played so long without trying any mods for it.

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You haven't even scratched the surface then, so many mods that make the game even better. Prophesy of Pendor is my mod of choice, Brytenwalda is fantastically atmospheric, but rather buggy,

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You haven't even scratched the surface then, so many mods that make the game even better. Prophesy of Pendor is my mod of choice, Brytenwalda is fantasyically atmospheric, but rather buggy,

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When I get tired of hacking my way through the enemy ranks as a Nord mercenary captain(and this is allways fun! 2handed axes!!!) I'll might get Brytenwalda.

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M&B has become one of the most successful games out there, apparently. I will get WB too when I feel like giving more time to gaming. Presently I'm merely taking a break from the finals.
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Originally Posted by The King

When I get tired of hacking my way through the enemy ranks as a Nord mercenary captain(and this is allways fun! 2handed axes!!!) I'll might get Brytenwalda.

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Brytenwalda is very buggy. Go with PoP, you wont regret it.