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It is to bad the Sultan sees me as a rapist. It is the farthest ideal from the truth. I am defending my people, as you yourself also do.
If divine right protects a lord to rule the throne, why did God not intercede!?
To the rebel Tsar, I offer a very joyous birthday, for Christian charity permits me to love my enemies.
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After consulting his spiritual advisors Louis XIII. will give a thank offering to thank the Lord for His support during the war against the HRE. He will build a new church at Reim. In front of that church, there will be a statue of Jeanne d’Arc, the great French folk hero.
Additionally the French government asks the Holy Roman Church to start the proceedings of beatification. There are many documented wonders. The French authority will support the efforts of the church.
Does the German Empire wish to open trade once again, we shall not stir up rebellion, we wish to see trade blossom again.
Official Statement from the Kingdom of Brandenburg
In the kingdoms best interests we shall not start an republic, but an empire is still in mind. We would like to thank all barve soldiers who fought for brandenburg, and won our indepndanc, it took war, but we are now a country, not a simple state, This has thrown us into overwhelming joy, and we declare this day Independance Day(OOC- Not after the movie)THe EMpire may start in another year, and we are not an kingdom, but an Empire, but we do not rule through fear, we shall rule through joy, and hopefully the Brandenburgish people shall love the nation of Brandenburg.
JOY TO THE NEW EMPIRE OF BRANDENBURG!
HIP HIP!
HOORAY!
HIP HIP!
HOORAY!
To the King of Brandenburg:
Your declaration has taken us by surprise. You decide to call your realm an empire. Does this mean that you will call yourself Emperor? That you sea yourself as the successor of the Roman Emperor Constantine? Does that mean that you are also a religious leader. That you will be crowned by the pope? Do you intent to convert to Catholism? :oops:
OOC-Huh? Nope)
To the King Of France,
There are more then 1 empire in this world, we shall be a diffrent one, the brandenburg EMpire, led by the Emperor of Brandenburg. We of course have nothing to do with the pope and we never will, brandenburg we stay protestant.
No, there are not. Taditionally, there is only one Empire, the successor of the Roman Empire. Well, lately things have changed and are getting a bit complicated.
The HRE is gone. The title German Emperor is more to honor the ruler of Germany and to remind oon his history. The German ruler gave up the claims of being the succesor of the Romans, so Germany is not an empire any longer.
The Spanish King lately claimed the title Emperor. Obviously he thinks that now that the HRE is gone, Spain is the legal successor of the Roman Emperor. I do not know if these claims are officially accepted, esp. from the Holy Church.
Of course there are some heretic, like the csar of Russia, who calls himself csar (=emperor). But their opinion really does not matter.
So, as a matter of fact, we have hardly any empire today. I cannot see how a Protestant Kingdom, that has just won his sovereignity, can claim that title. Do you think that you are the successor of the Roman Emperor Constantin, Imperator Rex, protector of the Holy Roman Church?
Be careful with notions. In the 17th century they matter a lot. Use them the wrong way and you may soon be dead - without even understanding why!
OOC: Actually, while most emperors in Europe claimed after the Roman Empire, Russia claimed after the Byzantine Empire, but in Spain, traditionally the hoder of Leon, since the 13th century, could claim the title of Emperor of all the Spains. And since now I hold the whole of the iberian peninsula, I thought it was only fair.
Since I am also Catholic, it is anice title to claim.
Byzantium was Orthodox, so why call me a heretic? The Byzantines allied with Muslims (Rum, anyone?), so why hold that against me?
OOC: The west never really had very kind thoughts of the Byzantines, they were mostly viewed as schismatics and heretics. They only really started to get "worried" when Byzantium was threatened by the Turks, and even then the Pope would only give support if the Greeks/Byzantines joined the Catholic church and abandoned their "heretical" ways. One interesting quote about a westerners opinion of the Byzantines is from the Italian poet and humanist, Petrach: "The Turks are merely our enemies, but the schismatic Greeks are worse than enemies. The Turks hate us less, for they fear us less. The Greeks ... however, both fear and hate us with all their soul".
By the way, we're an empire too? But I'm an infidel so it doesen't count, right?
OOC: Oh you all emperors kings and your titles.You relics.~:wave:
OOC: Well, since you are not catholic, you are heretic, and since you allied to the sultan, you are twice heretic :yes:Quote:
Originally Posted by IrishArmenian
The thing with the Ottoman Empire, is that an Empire-type structure was the most similar thing to the organisation of european empires, so they adopted the moniquet.
Official statement from the Papacy:
The Holy Father announces that part of the Papal Guard will take part in the battle of Vienna under the command of the Spanish commander Ambrogio Spinola. They are also joined by the Knights of St John. The Holy Father, the spiritual leader of the Holy League, encourages all true Catholics to accept the leadership of the Spanish king under the command of his appointed general Ambrogio Spinola. The Holy Father declares internal peace between Catholics until the end of the year, when the Heathen has been defeated. Attacks on territories belonging to the Holy League participants is strongly discouraged, and all who fight in defense of Vienna will be forgiven for their sins.
sorry, i am on the list, right??
just wanted to double-check...
yes
So whens the next chapter coming up.
some haven't posted decisions yet. I believe 3 or 4...
Who are they?
One is me - My family, including me, decided to come down with the flu last week:embarassed: , so this is the first time on the boards for over a week.
I will be sorting out my options over the next couple of days and should post by Wednesday.
King James
So, next chapter soon?
I've sent legio my moves, so the Court of King James rests easy.
The court of King James also announces that he and his retinue are off for a short holiday and, as such, will be offline from tomorrow - Friday - until Monday week (19/2/07)
God save the King
Decisions left: NETHERLANDS, VENICE
Netherlands have send their messengers with their orders.:bow:
Ggggggggggggggggggggggah!
Could the new Kaiser be mentally unstable?
I think secretly epileptic.
Ah yes. Well, we all have our ****, some more than others.
I was exlamating gah due to my need for a 17th century fix! GAH!
You'll get it soon, junky.
I can imagine a really skinny Emperor in tattered clothes waiting in front of a run down house. It may be fix house, but while everyone else is interested in the "meds" Bopa here just wants to use the computer.
Ok now I have all decisions (and a few unanswered PMs with questions). I'll take care of all this in the upcoming weekend. Next chapter will come on Friday or Saturday, if nothing unforeseen turns up.
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