There is one brother in the group that isn't like the others, Igner. He's too dumb and sweet to actually be evil.
Not sure we could solve it by character due to cover roles.
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There is one brother in the group that isn't like the others, Igner. He's too dumb and sweet to actually be evil.
Not sure we could solve it by character due to cover roles.
But if there are cover roles, then clearly Murska's would not be a scum cover role. Either third party or town. Parallelism to Dr. Farnsworth (who was 3P) is likely.
Do you have any suspects left, Pizza? You want me dead, and (distantly) atheotes, so that leaves Al Sipsclar, Pelican, abd DP101 to be my scum partner.
Do you really think any of those combinations make sense? Do you think you can argue for any of those combinations making sense?
I cant find Murska's claim. Can anyone help me?
This question indicates to me that I do have one of the three wrong, otherwise you probably wouldn't be kind of shoving my wrongness in my face tauntingly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Montmorency
I'll think about it and get back to you.
Someone else may even have the exact right team and Monty doesn't want to talk about it.
Think I'm right on Murska, though. Otherwise Monty would be leaping at the chance to mislynch the guy.
HereQuote:
Originally Posted by Murska
Whers'at?Quote:
Someone else may even have the exact right team and Monty doesn't want to talk about it.
And no, I am and have been leaping at the chance to lynch you. I have not accepted substitutes (though I was wrong about Winston, as I'm sure you enjoyed proving through your kill of him).
This is up there with Monty's plan from yesterday.Quote:
Originally Posted by atheotes
Winston died, if GH is scum blocker he can just block me and force a thunderdome between us that he wins, and since GH is being jailkept, and dp101 isn't Murska or atheotes himself.
Vote: atheotes
thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy
Scum have cover roles. so i am not going to consider Quat's theory on Murska.
I dont fully understand what you are saying.Quote:
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy
But my suggestion was based on my premise that Winston was scum and would be alive today anyway. and Dp101 was the likely kill
Would you lynch Murska today? Would you lynch Monty today? Would you lynch me today?Quote:
Originally Posted by atheotes
Generalhankerchief?
GH has been my top scum read. he was also quick to vote Murska. I would expect town GH to be more skeptical here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy
if it comes to Monty and you, probably you.
I also have my doubts about Quat. He needs most of the Robots to survive. if the scum dont have any robots it effectively makes him town. So why would he propose a "scum must be human" theory? Guess i need to read all the claims again.
You have me as one of your scums, and picking me over Monty for the lynch.Quote:
Originally Posted by atheotes
You're pretty much in all my scum teams as well. If we're both town, game is over.
Do you want to lock that in and thunderdome one another?
Winston theorized before he died that Pizza and Monty were on the same scum team. Dp101 backed that theory up.
He's dead and there's at least one live player willing to push that theory.
The game is over if I ever get lynched. People should just decide my alignment today and not waste too much of their time.
If there's not four other players willing to say Pizza is town and I'm riding or dying with that belief, I don't want to keep playing.
I'm not trying to throw a pity party, or anything. I'll sit here all day and talk to anyone about anything and be willing to consider, for the most part, if they're town.
But you gotta understand this game feels like garbage to me and you have to understand that in my position, if we lynch scum, lynch scum, then lynch me, it's the same only worse.
For any X person you think is scum "with me", force a thunderdome between that person and me.
That way, I will be voting for a scum on our way out, as opposed to merely self-pres.
@GeneralHankerchief
I've been scum all game and I decided to pocket you because you obviously trust me after I tried to lynch you. That's a plan I had, right?
Especially given our famous ability to work well together in games where we're both town. Like myself and Zack.
GH is nothing, if not a devoted pizzaguy fanboi.
Pelican and Dp are two others who have promised to end me. All you'd really need is Monty + anyone else, and that would at least force a 4-4 tie. And there's really no way I get five counter votes to that. Reidquat literally doesn't even need to take a stand on the issue, he wins if I get lynched, and voted me yesterday.
It's lynch or lose and I'm still alive with a claimed town power role. It's like a no brainer.
I'm a tracker who isn't being blocked at this late stage of the game. There's literally no way that's not a scum role.
Can we lynch Monty and then Murska, or Murska and then Monty? I'll settle for atheotes if he doesn't change.
Here's the absolute bottom line:
Atheotes is going "GH is top scum" when I'm not being roleblocked or killed and Winston and GH were or likely were.
Someone actually believes that I can possibly think he's scum, as a townie.
Someone has to have me and GH as both being town in order to falsely sell that narrative. Like, literally only a scum can think that. Or else the accusation is actually that I am scum and I have the pizzaguy card that says it's not true.
If someone is a townie and thinks that I am town when I know GH has to be town at that point, then they also have to come up with a team of three that doesn't include Askthepizzaguy and Generalhankerchief.
It's the only trump card I have is that I alone know I'm still somehow a goddamned townie. Unless someone is willing to change their mind on GH, it's the same as saying I'm scum, and I know that's not true.
GH can't be the top scum on anyone's list. If Askthepizzaguy is town, why is he not killed OR blocked?
Saying GH is scum is saying GH is deliberately not blocking.
Atheotes, if you're town, and you think there's any possibility I am town, then guess what, we lose today if you vote GH.
You need to give me a team of three that includes neither GH or Pizza in that list. Otherwise we thunderdome.
If you're town, I need a miracle from you immediately.
I got Monty+Murska+atheotes as the exact team remaining right now.
Someone needs to start talking to me if that's wrong.
Murska scum blocker most probably given Monty not going anywhere.
He has to figure I'd be tracking him.
thunderdome me and murska.
thunderdome me and monty, not ideal, but I'll take it.
LMK
Like, Murska's claim was in literally the first post that comes up in a search, because it was his most recent post. Don't tell me that atheotes doesn't know how to iso and look at the very first entry before posting if he cared about that. Asking for help is a scumtell at this stage, because it is a subtle psychological trick to get someone to be on your side. It's the yes technique. Get someone to say yes to a simple request and they'll be more likely to follow up with one that screws you over.
That's marketing.
No more volcano here, just a science fair fart.
Time to close the lid on this stale pizza.
Good theory. Excellent retort.
Murska and atheotes just townies, then, three card?
Don't call me that. As I said, Murska is far likelier to be third party than scum here.Quote:
Good theory. Excellent retort.
Murska and atheotes just townies, then, three card?
Am I bussing them? Good, let's bus em. Let me wriggle and writhe while I'm still alive, watching all my friends die.
So you're saying there's 2 scums left and 1 third party. Velly interesting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Montmorency
If I bus my final remaining partner, boy, I'm pretty screwed aren't I. Let's make that happen next.
Who are my buddies, Monty?
No, 3 scums and Murska possibly third party. There have to be at least the 3 scums for this to be LYLO.Quote:
So you're saying there's 2 scums left and 1 third party. Velly interesting.
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Who are my buddies, Monty?
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Originally Posted by Montmorency
How does town win if it's 1 neutral, 3 scums, and 1 third party hostile?
We don't have enough lynches remaining for that. We have 3 lynches. Town is all done playing if that were the case.
I am not third party. Hardclaim vanilla.
Vote: Pizza
Excellent timing.
It's like you were hanging out deciding what to do, and then you just did it. Amaze.
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...f844a7c9d7.jpg
I'm Pizzaman, and I rattle cages.
Oh Murska. You truly are the weakest link. Good bye.
Vote: Murska
Actually, I just woke up.
Pelican, DP101, go go go
Let's finish the pizzaguy so there's no leftovers.
I am the tastiest prize. Watch for the heartburn tho.
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Originally Posted by Murska
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5Fgp-KihIA
Nine, seven, five - all the Mafia are dead!Quote:
We don't have enough lynches remaining for that. We have 3 lynches. Town is all done playing if that were the case.
Three - we still playing? Lynch third party. Tried and true.
Sure, Murska is third party today conveniently.
Good job finding excuses not to push him.
Reidquat is awesome, but relying on him for parity is suicide.
We have three lynches. As soon as we go -1 townie, the game is over.
It basically says so at the start of the day. It's lynch or lose.
1 townie gone, poof. So we don't have 4 lynches. We absolutely have to think of it as only three.
My opinion.
Alive:
Al Sipsclar
Askthepizzaguy
atheotes
Dp101
GeneralHankerchief
Montmorency
Murska
Pelican
Riedquat
Of these, scummy:
Al Sipsclar
ATPG
GeneralHankerchief
GH is scum theory again.
It's amazing. Me and GH both claimed town powers ages ago. I crumbed it from the start.
The only way GH is scum is if I'm scum, so I'll give you that much.
Nat ganna lanch him. You lynch me and it's game over, so I can literally guarantee you'll never lynch GH.
Murska and Monty both think Al Sippy cup is my partner.
Running out of spaces to put one, eh?
I call on my ever-shrinking coalition of AWOL people, people who think I'm scum, and guy who isn't even a townie to end a scumbag today.
It will be the most improbable victory of all time.
Will any of atheotes, Murska, or Monty actually vote for the other today? Stay tuned.
Pizza, why not give us a good time and convince me to vote myself, for all the sense you make?
Well, is there any universe where you would vote for either atheotes or Murska?Quote:
Originally Posted by Montmorency
No? Then don't waste my time.
Pizza and Monty
They're both so taunt-y
I can really sense the genuine
Affection shared between the lines
And
They're probably both scum
They didn't lynch each other, how come?
Could it be
they're secretly
part of one big conspiracy
It's all theater, folks
I guess I must think you're just dopes
Because my plan all along
Was to vote you all til you sang along
Huh?
Yep, that was my plan
(Nice to meet you, name's Dan)
I masterminded everything
And now a townie's gonna swing
And I'm here to rub it in your faces
then burn your bodies so there's no traces
And light up my fat victory cigar
And drive off in a stolen car filled with caaaaaaash
Or maybe Monty and Murska are who you need to caaaaaatch.
I got important shit to do, as you can see. I can't be bothered with dead ends.
@GeneralHankerchief
I'm currently singing a "scummy, jaunty tune", quite literally.
This is clearly meant to pocket you, because you always love it when I do that, amirite? You don't have any bad memories of that happening.
This is why I don't do sales in real life.
If I'm being honest with people, I can't persuade for shit. It's only in the format where I'm playing a game with friends that I can become an amazing liar.
If I'm being honest with people, I'm more like an irritant that won't go away.
Thankfully, we can lynch people like that here.
A smug and tame response.Quote:
Originally Posted by Montmorency
The theory you don't see:
GH is scum, pizza is town, and that GH is just refraining from blocking me.
Why, because if GH is scum, no scum wants to actually sell that theory. That would mean lynching GH today, which proves none of them innocent.
If GH is town, and I won't lynch GH, then gotta convince GH to lynch me. Thus the missing theory.
There's a hankerchief in someone's pocket, and it's not mine.
How about a block and kill on Winston, just in case the kill didn't work? Reidquat stated a protective power. No proof he's used it yet.
Again, theory not proposed.
Just Pizza is scum with GH, only theory. Or just pizza is scum. only other theory. So let's go, thunderdome.
I promise with every fiber of my being that I will make this the most painful and long day you've ever experienced.
A smug and bold response.
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
The really sick part is I have nothing to do all day and I am at that level of cheesed off where I will sit here and talk to a wall for 8 straight hours.
Don't like it, you can tap out by voting me and putting me on ignore mode.
Boy it sure is quiet in here now.
I claim this space in the name of Pizza's town. Crappy though it was, I shall march on defiantly.
:charge:
Guess I'll crank up M2 until some people get online.
I have never seen the point of a thunderdome. I am never going to participate in one. If you think something i am saying doesnt make sense, sure, we can discuss about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy
How are you so sure GH is not scum?Quote:
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy
:laugh4:Quote:
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy
:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy
it says potential lynch or lose.Quote:
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy
:inquisitive:Quote:
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy
I dont get it. Please explain to me why you are sure GH is not scum.Quote:
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy
Yeap... that is a good suggestion about that I'm crazy... very improbably is Murska, cover role... So it were Mom's killbots and we are still completely in the dark, Mom and her three sons... bleh...Quote:
Originally Posted by atheotes
Good, finally someone questioning me. Scum must be humans as per lore, Wernstrom is against robots and blames them about the global warming, of course if Murska is not part of the scum the theory crumbles down as the pile of crap it is!Quote:
Originally Posted by atheotes
But I wonder what is your problem revealing now?
Can you at least be less scummy? Based in my own crazy theory the idea was lynching you and then Murska followed by atheotes... Of course, try your best to save yourself from the lynch, but this is far but really far away from your "best"...Quote:
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy
Prove me and and the rest of us, my crazy theory is right, prove Murska's guilt with all your ISos and stuff... All I've seen from you this far is you desperately trying to save your own ass not matter how many townies you sacrifice to achieve that.
Ah screw it, tone is all I have at this point, and tonewise Pizza is innocent. Vote: Murska because I still don't like his behaviour towards the Monty wagon yesterday. Still worry tha I'm just jumping on the scummiest townie that a mafia Pizza found, but whatever, I'm past caring at this point. The game is probably already lost.
Hold on! There is still time, don't give up! If we get this lynch right, high chances town wins the game, the math about the right lynches left is not completely accurate. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Dp101
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Can anybody explain to me, Winston's role? And why the scum needs a tracker? I'm not trying to defend Pizza, but trying to understand the game.
Anyone got a link to Winston's PM? I remember that he could scan for robots and had some kind of limited night action immunity.
I a dismissing your theory simply based on your VC and the fact that if the scum were all human, you are not really neutral. Murska has been scummy based on tone. But GH and Pizza are way above him in the POEQuote:
Originally Posted by Riedquat
What do you think about GH?