U.S. Elections 2008: General Elections -- Analysis and Commentary

Let's not make this an abortion thread, shall we? And to answer your question, no, I don't think that's any form of right. I'm opposed to late-term abortions, period. Most people are. This is yet another area where I think some compromise and middle ground would yield good results—note that eight years of Republican dominance has done nothing to reduce abortion rates. A little compromise and common sense would lead us toward a European model where we don't allow late-term abortions except under the most extreme circumstances.

I also think you guys are overplaying this way too hard. As has been discussed at least one of our 400 abortion threads, late-term abortions are a rarity. Failed late-term abortions in which the baby survives, well, I can't even hazard a guess at how rare that is, but I'd bet money that death by falling into a vat of marmalade while dressed like a walrus are more common.

Also, a born-alive bill did pass. Read the frickin' coverage that I provided. So all of this lather and outrage is focused on ... what, exactly?

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Originally Posted by Lemur

So all of this lather and outrage is focused on ... what, exactly?

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Without the Chosen Ones support though...
But regardless thank you for answering my question. Now I let you go for your afternoon prayers to Obamamessiah. I believe he is in Springfield IL today so be sure to point your prayer rug to the West. Just trying to be helpful, its hard to type while my nipples are so erect.

It's true, The Chosen One curried favor with extremist groups such as the Illinois State Medical Society when he raised objections to the bill's language. All part of his extremist ways, I guess.

And darling Dave, Springfield is south of me, not west. I would have piched my prayer rug all wrong if I listened to you.

Obama Prepares to Announce Mate
Drudge Report
With a new bumper sticker.

Its Bayh...
Obama/Bayh...
I always had a feeling Obama swung both ways


First!!!!:2thumbsup:

Finally, Illinois and Indiana united in an axis of corn. Let the potato states tremble in fear!

In tonights sacrafice, after the blood letting of the corn of course, could you send them my way. I like rubbing them on my freshly spanked rosey bottom. Thanks Lemm...:whip::beam:

I'm not seeing it anywhere. Is this another fake text message or is there an actual link?

-edit- Waitaminute, I see the bumper sticker on Drudge. There we go then.

It's Drudge, naturally. From his site:

FLASH: Fri Aug 22 2008 17:52:03 ET /// KMBC's Micheal Mahoney reports a company in Kansas City, which specializes in political literature, has been printing Obama-Bayh material... MORE... Gill Studios, would not confirm information about the material. They would not deny it either. At least three sources close to the plant's operations reported the Obama-Bayh material was being produced...

Damn printers, giving the plot away.

I would like to point out mine was first, in an indirect manner, by linking Drudge and announcing bumper-sticker.

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Finally, Illinois and Indiana united in an axis of corn. Let the potato states tremble in fear!

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:whip:

Fall in behind the Corn King, Iowa.:angry:

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I'm not seeing it anywhere. Is this another fake text message or is there an actual link?

-edit- Waitaminute, I see the bumper sticker on Drudge. There we go then.

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Nice bumber sticker, but I think a red star or a nice hammer and cycle would have been more appropriate.

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I would like to point out mine was first, in an indirect manner, by linking Drudge and announcing bumper-sticker.

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Very correct, good job. But I was the first to make the bisexual innuendo, thank you very much!!!:laugh4:

According to Wiki, Bayh supported both the Iraq war and the Patriot act...Lovely...

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According to Wiki, Bayh supported both the Iraq war and the Patriot act...Lovely...

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You see, Obama has to sprint WAYYYYY to the right considering his marxist ways in order to even appear moderate to the people who actually understand what he's saying when he talks about "change" and "fairness". He has no choice to pick an almost polar opposite to get him even close to moderate status. I was halfway expecting him to name Carl Rove!!!

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According to Wiki, Bayh supported both the Iraq war and the Patriot act...Lovely...

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Ah, change we can believe in indeed. Does Bayh still support the Iraq war? Because most politicians did before we actually invaded, same with the patriot act.

And if this turns out to be legit, Drudge just stole a lot of Obama's thunder.

CR

Again according to Wiki, he has changed his stance on the Iraq war but he still supported the patriot act in 2006.

If Obama is a Marxist pinko black Muslim can I start labeling McCain a white Nazi Klanmember?

Dev, I do not believe you've given any substance to your "argument" other than Obama's apparently Communist policies (You know, state abolishing, taking everything from everyone and giving it to Sudan or wherever he's from) and his brother's financial status (Because this is very important. Right?). As I've stated before, the obvious trolls are obvious, but it doesn't mean they're funny.


(And though trying to avoid the abortion thing, but, in a way, abortion in a way could be acceptable. What do you think that teenage mom will do with that baby? She more than likely won't even care for it, and neither will the father.)

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Ah, change we can believe in indeed. Does Bayh still support the Iraq war? Because most politicians did before we actually invaded, same with the patriot act.

And if this turns out to be legit, Drudge just stole a lot of Obama's thunder.

CR

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I hate the argument "WELL THE DEMOCRATS VOTED FOR TEH WARZ!!! LOL!!!" mainly because the only war the Democrats had a near unanimous agreement for was Afghanistan due to the 9/11 attacks.

Or...err... not:
http://www.kmbc.com/politics/17267009/detail.html

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The Obama campaign said it would make the announcement by text message on Saturday. On Friday night, The Associated Press reported that Bayh was not the candidate.

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It isn't Bayh or Kaine:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26336195/

It's Biden

Biden is a solid choice. Of all of the possible VP's for Obama, Biden is by far my favorite. He receives a 36% from NARAL and a 0% from National Right to life, so he shows a legitimate middle ground on Abortion - such as voting to uphold the ban on partial birth and a vote against federal funding for abortions. I could vote for Biden with a clear conscience. Plus he's an Irish Catholic.

He has the experience necessary to be a solid running mate. This pick also makes Romney the likely choice for McCain - those VP debates will be a must watch for me. I think both Romney and Biden are policy powerhouses.

All in all - with an Obama/Biden vs McCain/Romney race I will be able to live with the results even if it isn't for my guys. Man we dodged that Hillary bullet.

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It's Biden

Biden is a solid choice. Of all of the possible VP's for Obama, Biden is by far my favorite. He receives a 36% from NARAL and a 0% from National Right to life, so he shows a legitimate middle ground on Abortion - such as voting to uphold the ban on partial birth and a vote against federal funding for abortions. I could vote for Biden with a clear conscience. Plus he's an Irish Catholic.

He has the experience necessary to be a solid running mate. This pick also makes Romney the likely choice for McCain - those VP debates will be a must watch for me. I think both Romney and Biden are policy powerhouses.

All in all - with an Obama/Biden vs McCain/Romney race I will be able to live with the results even if it isn't for my guys. Man we dodged that Hillary bullet.

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I have to agree. No matter who the canidate, I'll be happy :yes:

Biden, eh? Seems alright, though he plagiarized that one speech and made some racial comment gaffes.

A solid choice, and probably a good one from Obama.

Though I'm not fond of career politicians who get elected to the Senate and then just sit there for decades.

CR

President Biden.

Sorry to say, I see a strong chance Obama will be assassinated (although who knows if it will be successful) if he wins in November. Hopefully I'm wrong.

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President Biden.

Sorry to say, I see a strong chance Obama will be assassinated (although who knows if it will be successful) if he wins in November. Hopefully I'm wrong.

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You're more than likely wrong. He has as good of a chance of being assasinated as McCain does. Even then, I think we'd all agree even an attempted/succesfull assassination would be worthy of condemnation and the execution of those who tried or suceeded.

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Biden, eh? Seems alright, though he plagiarized that one speech and made some racial comment gaffes.

A solid choice, and probably a good one from Obama.

Though I'm not fond of career politicians who get elected to the Senate and then just sit there for decades.

CR

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Biden has been known to come down with severe cases of foot-in-mouth disease, mainly because he doesn't know how to shut up- the guy just loves to hear himself talk. He's also about as much of a Washington insider as you can get, so that kind of lets some of the air out of Obama's "change" rhetoric and attacks on McCain as an insider.

So yeah, great choice. :2thumbsup:

Sorry to say it TuffStuff, but look what I found on wikipedia:

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Biden's record on abortion is generally favorable towards the practice receiving a 100% rating from NARAL Pro-Choice America in four of the last five years, although he received a 36% as recently as 2003.

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On the other hand Xiahou, it cancels out most of the "no foreign policy experience" attacks. Few people have as much experience as Biden.

EDIT: I just found this clip of Joe Biden debating Iraq. I really like this guy.

They'll be getting my vote.

This is definitly the most arrogant ticket that could have possibly have ever been assembled. Man, I thought the Kerry/Edwards ticket was the most snobbish in history, this tops that!!! Thanks Osama for all the Hillary voters BTW. I guess BO is a clean enough black guy for old Biden to hang with for the next few months!!!:laugh4:

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/01/31/biden.obama/

Good to see you comrade Tachi!!!