French Revolution Mafia [Concluded]

I'm willing to switch to Khan or Monty though.

Renata is always an option too.

Actually reading through GM updates are for the weak and feeble minded. I work purely on intuition. Is never fails me.

unvote, vote: Al Sipsclair

Your vote is bad and you should feel bad.

Prove it.

Two days in a row Zack, you must feel pretty strongly. Both of my top suspects are town apparently, so that just proves how bad I really am...

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Originally Posted by Winston Hughes

There was one thing last night, though: he expressed a hope that nobody vig him, saying nothing about the prospect of the royalists killing him.

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I don't really think that says much either way about him, if he's town, he could be more afraid of being vigged because he'd be thinking "a lot of people suspect me and think I'm scummy, I don't think the Royalists will kill me because I'm lynchbait."

Really, if he's not, but someone else in your faction is and they knew about the scan, why kill Auto? Even if it stops the scan, the Royalists killing Auto just heavily indicates that they knew what he was up to, which would make you and El Barto look even worse than you already do.

Winston is fine.

Assuming at least one of the Populists is a Royalist and they knew about Autolycus's scan, I'd expect them to back the seireikhaan wagon over the Dp wagon yesterday, because they'd know that khaan is about to be confirmed town and they'd want to get him lynched before that happens. I'll give El Barto a little bit of town cred for that, but just a little, because I'm not really sure how active he actually is. Same with Autolycus. Winston did vote khaan, which makes him look a little bit worse.

At this point a scum - Csargo, presumably - in Renata's group would not kill Renata, as it would only be to their own detriment in the Convention. Csargo's primary defense against the lynch was Renata.

This night, Llewyn jailed me and Khaan jailed Snerk. As Khaan is town, Snerk must indeed have been jailed, which means he at least could not have killed Renata.

The overwhelming probability is that at least one scum is in the Populist faction, which has neither lost nor killed any scum, unlike the other factions. And auto, Barto, and Winston/Sooh were all off-wagon on D1. Al Sipsclar, Choxorn, and Csargo were also off-wagon, but they have individual or factional redeeming factors. Giving auto and Barto a flat benefit-of-the-doubt for QT reasons (which Al Sipsclar would receive by the same token), Winston should be brought down today. Did anyone else catch the buddying toward me yesterday? As soon as he wasn't being suspected as much went right into demure and friendly mode.

Unvote; Vote: Winston

Vote: Montmorency

~:rolleyes:

It's a shame because his entry into the game was so glorious. unvote, vote: Winston

I have no idea how to defend myself here.

My accusers are town, and their reasons are fair.

But I'm not a royalist.

For reference, here are your earlier lists. You feel better about town-auto than you did a day ago?

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

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Originally Posted by Winston Hughes

I've scanned the whole thread, but only read properly up to post 585.

I'll read the rest a bit later, but here's where my reads are at:

Renata - town or wtf
Zack - town or wtf
Manasi - very townie
khaan - seems safe
Lewwyn - check this again
Dp101 - check this again

chox - post 556, 558 etc look townie
Al Sips - post 558 pizza gives town reason
Snerk - post 574 monty gives town reason, post 582 renata gives town reason
Barto - post 582 renata gives town reason

Auto - getting towncred from others, not clear on reasons
Monty - ditto

NAC - probable scum
Csargo - probable scum

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Originally Posted by Winston Hughes

Caught up.

Understand better how Monty was thinking when we talked, and he generally looks very townie.

Csargo also looks better than before. A long way from clear, but giving a decent impression of solving intent if scum.

Barto isn't vibing scummy to me (by his standards). I'm a little wary of taking Monstr's willingness to vig him to be in any way clearing, given that both of them were fairly likely vig targets, but it's hard to judge without seeing the actual exchange.

Snerk looks good on tone. Neither seems like he's trying too hard, nor that he's lacking in morale. Combined with the qt evidence from two separate angles, he's safely in the good pile.

If chox is scum, this is a masterclass of fooling my tone reads.

Lewwyn looks a little worse - mainly just because other people have gained town cred and he hasn't - and I still haven't rechecked that ping I got from his D1. Since he seems unlikely to get lynched today (and I'm bored of reading), I'm going to leave it for now.

khaan looks bad. That D1 vote is the only significant point in his favour. Posts don't feel townie. There's no flow of thought I can follow. And the fact that suspicion is coming from his own faction seems quite damning.

NAC, who has no town points at all by my reckoning, is the only serious alternative to khaan at this stage. Didn't like the reads list in 657 at all. Felt forced and fluffy. Absence so far today is extremely unhelpful. Obviously RL is RL, but it's no stretch to imagine how this game state might leave a royalist NAC lacking motivation to post.

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I guess none of you is even going to pretend to hunt Royalists now.

No, he looks much worse.

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Originally Posted by Zack

I guess none of you is even going to pretend to hunt Royalists now.

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Zack, your faction is up to its ears in scum until proven otherwise.

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Originally Posted by Montmorency

Zack, your faction is up to its ears in scum until proven otherwise.

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Not Winston.

People who voted auto over the course of D2: Renata, Snerk, Csargo
People who voted Barto over the course of D2: Zack, NAC, Lewwyn, Manasi, DP, atheotes

Auto is also voted by Choxorn, Al Sipsclar, and Snerk on D3. Auto has voted Csargo multiple times.

If Winston is passed up, the alternative should be auto for both his odd performance and for potential spew. Hopefully Barto will actually do something, at last.

Vote: Yes ????????????????????????????????????????????

Also did Snerk say Renata was a good vote?

Vote: yes
Vote: Auto

Would be ok with Barto, Csargo or even Winston, though I'm really enjoying reading his posts.

Unvote; Vote: auto

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Originally Posted by Choxorn

I don't really think that says much either way about him, if he's town, he could be more afraid of being vigged because he'd be thinking "a lot of people suspect me and think I'm scummy, I don't think the Royalists will kill me because I'm lynchbait."

Really, if he's not, but someone else in your faction is and they knew about the scan, why kill Auto? Even if it stops the scan, the Royalists killing Auto just heavily indicates that they knew what he was up to, which would make you and El Barto look even worse than you already do.

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Whoa, remember that when I look bad I'm town.

Anybody with access to the QT (which, btw, Citoyen Foulard has warned can be infiltrated by the Royalists) can see that we activated an ability.

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Originally Posted by Montmorency

If Winston is passed up, the alternative should be auto for both his odd performance and for potential spew. Hopefully Barto will actually do something, at last.

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Let's not get our hopes up by too much.

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Originally Posted by El Barto

Whoa, remember that when I look bad I'm town.

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More often than not you get quickly pounced on and revealed.

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Originally Posted by Montmorency

More often than not you get quickly pounced on and revealed.

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If you want to go for what the MUites call ‘spew’, then prepare to be unpleasantly disappointed.

Vote: Yes
Vote: El Barto

I think vote: El Barto is the more likely scum. He made a comment about NAC in our QT last night that was frankly just bizarre, when we were getting results back on him this morning.

Announcement:

Regarding the Law of 22 Prarial/Yes or No vote, after some thought, I've decided to give you guys full disclosure on what you're voting for or against.

If this vote passes, each faction will receive one additional factional vig and protection - however, it can be used for Night 4 and Night 4 only. Use it or lose it.

Post 2 will be updated with this information.

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Originally Posted by autolycus

I think vote: El Barto is the more likely scum. He made a comment about NAC in our QT last night that was frankly just bizarre, when we were getting results back on him this morning.

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I made a comment about how I felt about him at the time.