17th century

We could agree to hand Vienna over, I do not wish perpetual war and as long as the conditions are fair I will play along. First of all the Emperor of Germany, Ferdinand, must swear not too come with threats against our realm, as did his predecessor Mathias, by now he should know that if we want to we can take Vienna or maybe another city of his. We wish to advice him not to give us a reason to return. The Holy League army will disband and return to where they came from. Spain will withdraw out of our waters and return all they have stolen in Greece and Cyprus (or in their words; "liberated") and will no longer have a military presence in Egypt. The Polish will withdraw from Bulgaria and pay for whatever destructions they and their barbarous allies may have caused.
To me these seem like acceptable terms.

the German Government.

This is war Sultan, not a tea party, you cannot call it off when the weather does not go you're way.

You want to fight eh? Can't see how your position is more enviable than mine actually... Your combined armies just failed to protect the greatest city of Austria, good luck trying to get it back any other way than me giving it to you of free will.

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Originally Posted by Randarkmaan

You want to fight eh? Can't see how your position is more enviable than mine actually... Your combined armies just failed to protect the greatest city of Austria, good luck trying to get it back any other way than me giving it to you of free will.

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Sultan, even you must appreciate that you cannot wage war on 3 fronts. Greece, Bulgaria and Austria are too much for you to handle. You will be destroyed, and then the conditions will be much more severe than the ones I asked for.

To the inhabitants of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth.
As this unfortunate and un-provoked attack by the Swedes has occured, the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth asks that NO SUCCOR be provided to the invading Swedes!
I am asking that all loyal Poles, Germans, Ruthenians, Lithuanians, Cossacks of all bands and tribes, I ask that you send your grain to the cities, and if the Swedes do besiege the city and capture it, I only ask that the grain stores and ammunition be disposed of.
Render no services to the Swedes, loyal peoples of the Commonwealth. The Crown is now in the process of raising troops for this upcoming assault on the Swedish threat, and we ask that all fields be burned before them, so our horses hooves will stamp their blood into them, and make the weeds die with their poisonous blood!
Partisans, I ask all of you to burn your homes before rendering service to the Swedes. Assault their wagon trains, their ships, their docks, their supporters and allies!
Defend the Commonwealth, sons and daughters all!

I will have you know, the Swedes are haughty and foolish. They have offered terms of peace that amount to nothing! We are not a broken country, but a sleeping giant, that once awakened will rip the enemy to shreds.

The Polish-Lithuanian King would also ask that Brandenburg render to the Commonwealth troops or payment for troops, so as to fulfill her vassal's duty. If this doesn't occur, then I may be forced to take drastic actions, that I will not perform unless made to do so.
This is not a declaration of war on the neutral Brandenburg. I have not sent troops into the lands, nor do I plan to. I will not force the vassal to do so, unless the Sejm supports my actions.
As King of this glorious Commonwealth, I ask that all knights volunteer to join the banner of the Crown and his Hetman leaders. I ask Voyevodes, mayors, governors, magistrates, and townships to render any assistance required by the Crown and her armies. Contribute money, troops, supplies, mounts, cannons, and materials to lead a war against this invader and rapist of the Motherland. I will hold all loyal sirs close to my heart, as you have shown that the Motherland is a place of freedom, for the nobles, for the people, and one which you will die for. I as King as only this of you, your loyal and faithful service to the country.
Do not fear such a barbaric threat! I ask that you keep the faith of God, and render the Swedes no assistance.

King Sigismund III
King of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth
In the Year of Our Lord 1615

Is this is what it has come to Pole? Ordering your people give poland to the flame just to avoid it falling into Swedish hands? May I remained the noble Polish people that if they fall the advice of this mad lunatic that they will surly starve throughout the winter. This is not a noble gesture of defiance this is the desperate order of a gredy king with no thought for his people.

To the Prussian's if you wish to be free from the polish the Swedes will aid you. The time has come for the power of Poland to be broken if they do not surrender.

OCC: The polish king seems to be spending to much time in russia, he is starting to sound like them. :laugh4:

It is to bad the Swede doesn't realize the stockpiles of food amassed by the Crown and Sejm in cities across Poland.
I think the invader would wish you to simply give your fields to him, once his supplies begin to flitter away after the people of Poland capture them.
It's he who is the raving lunatic, nobles, who seeks to win in Poland!

His Most Catholic Imperial Majesty Philippe of Spain wishes to announce that he will lend his support for the Polish struggle once the Turk has been driven away from Vienna.

The German Government

Germany gives her support to the Polish cause, any attack on Poland is an attck on Germany. Allies do not relieve themselves of one another when it suits them.

We thank Brandenbourg for agreeing not to interfere, however, we ask that you not give asylum to Rebels from which they may cause more destruction.

I have many matters to tell of, and one is this-


I shall not interfere in the war of Poland vs Sweden. Why? I shall not support Sweden because of Peace termsn arranged with Poland.

To the king of Poland: I shall not give troops to your cause of war against Sweden, and never will as the Swedes were loyal to us during the last war. I can also not pay for your troops as my treasury is failing, i have not a lot of money left, even though the German Empire payed for costs of the war, we still have no money to spare.


To The german Emperor: I shall aid the protestant Rebels in every way but attacking you, they ar eloyal firends and have helped me, and I shall accomadate as many as I can!


So out of this mess is say this, if the Ottoman Empire wins the next battle, I shall send my army in to help the rest of the Europeans, and will attack Venice. I have of course started to re-form my army and it is much bigger and modern then before. I shall support the protestant Rebels (But not attack the HRE) and shall support no one is the Polish-Swedeish War.

The German Government.

We beg you not to support rebels to appointed Emperors. It is a desecration of everything sacred. More than an affront to us, it is an affront to God.

:france:
:no:
The German Empire is at war with the Ottomans and the Swedish, as well as with rebels in the homeland and threatening Brandenburg
Sweden is making war with Poland and propably with Germany
Poland is at war with Sweden and the Turks as well as having trouble with his Prussian vasal and is involved in the riots at Russia
Spain is at war with the Turks and Venice
France has to fight a revolt and is challenged by Venice and provoked by the Turks
Venice is at war with Spain and challenging France
The Netherlands are not involved in any war right now, but due to their agressive policy outside Europe there is a high risk of a trade war.
Denmark keeps out of the war, but will propably be pulled into the quarrels with Germany and Poland.
Russia is still in the middle of a rebellion.
Only the Kingdom of England and Scottland is successfully keeping peace.

The world is sinking in chaos, war and disorder everywhere. Children disobey their parents, women disobey their husbands, subjects disobey their kings. The Christian Nations, united by the same faith bahave like Cain and Abel. Stop this meander, return to the order, God gave us and to the Unity of all Christian Nations. Stop supporting the affair of the antichrist.

I suggest, that all Christian souvereigns, Catholics as well as Protestants, meet at one conference to settle our differences. I would like to ask my brother James to host this meeting, because London is the only safe and neutral place in the moment.

Louis XIII. by the Grace of God

sorry. double post

I agree with the king of France, but before I put aiside any problems I would like to see several things happen, abd babraric motions tostop.

The German Government.

We are un-able to endorse such a proposal King of France, no matter how much we wish it.
Brandenburg, we wish you're friendly and lawful co-operation in the matter of rebellion. It is of course, expected out of hand that such an hobourable and worthy ruler as you're self will hand over any Rebels apprehended, to be dealt with by their Government and Loyal Overlord under God.

Statement from the Court of King James

The King wishes it to be known that he is happy to host the proposed meeting by the King of France where he can share with his fellow rulers the benefits of ruling a country at peace with its neighbours and to pass on his knowledge and wisdom.
The world seems a dangerous place at the moment - no doubt the work of witches and sodomites.
Any meeting will be held within the Tower of London, to ensure the safety of all participants. In the past I would have suggested the palace of Westminster, but since the unfortunate Guy Fawkes incident some years ago, I am cautious about such a venue.

God save the King

signed this day
King James the first of England and sixth of Scotland.

His Most Catholic Imperial Majesty Philippe of Spain will be visiting Rome this season to seek the guidance of His Holiness the Pope to see Spain through these troubled times. Therefore HMCIM will not be able to attend the meeting in London this season. Of course HMCIM will consider attending such a meeting in the future.

We in Poland believe that Guy Fawkes was wrongly accused of such a crime! If he had a match in a room full of barrels, that does not render him criminal if those barrels were filled with gunpowder!
The materials inside such cases are null and void to the case and charge that he is accused of.
Free Fawkes! He could have wanted to find his glasses, or identify where the cord of hemp led to. It is not his fault that someone placed gunpowder in those barrels.

OOC:Isn't this someones sig? Not serious, but still.

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Originally Posted by Franconicus

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I suggest, that all Christian souvereigns, Catholics as well as Protestants, meet at one conference to settle our differences. I would like to ask my brother James to host this meeting, because London is the only safe and neutral place in the moment.

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As the only Orthodox ruler, I will be honoured to attend your meeting. I request safe passage through Poland, Prussia, Germany and France so that I may take a ferry across the channel.
EDIT: If Poland recalls Wladyslaw (some Russian name, eh?), then I shall mediate these feuds, for the Dutch Elector is, unavailable. It would be most adventageous as I, the Tsar, am personal friends with the Duke of Prussia and the Sultan.

The German Government.

We have made our stance on Rebels known, they are fit only for the Executioner. You shall not eneter our lands, under pain of death.

Offical Anoucement from the Kingdom of Sweden
Any Pole that is not part of the polish army who is caught harming any Swedish solider or supply depot will be treated as a Brigand and hung as such. The Occupied polish provinces will be allowed all the rights of the native citizens of the empire including, the right to participate in the Rikdag or the Commoners diet. If the Polish do however resort to the desperation of a scorched earth policy Sweden will answer in full, with there own raiding.

The rightful Tsar is welcome to take passage through the Swedish lands of Estonia, Finland then stockholm were he may take a fleet to England with Sweden's envoy.

To France and England:
King Gustav will not be attending in person as long as the war in Poland is still raging, as his duty lies with his army. However he will send his chief minister Axel in his place.

To Germany, Spain and members of the Protestant Collation
You do realize that by treaty any catholic aggression against Sweden, as a member of the Protestant collation, is a declaration of war against the rest of the collation. Does Spain have the strength to fight both the Swedes, Dutch, Brandenburians, (OCC: King Kurt has England joined the collation?) and her current war with the Ottomans? Is Germany eager to fight another war so quickly after there crushing defeat in the last one. Let us see reason, recognize Vasilli as the rightful tsar and make peace. To deal with this catholic aggression King Gustav calls a meeting of the Protestant collation in Stockholm, following the London submit to discuss the future of the Collation.

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The German Government.

We have made our stance on Rebels known, they are fit only for the Executioner. You shall not eneter our lands, under pain of death.

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Well then, the righteous King of Sweden has already offered me safe passage, so I call back that request. So, no need for forgiveness because one cannot answer a non-existant question.
As Christians, we shall turn the other cheek to insults. Shall you join us in following our religion, rather than just using it?

From the Kingdom of Brandenburg
Our nation once again pledges its loyalty to the protestant Coiltion, and if any other member of the coilation is attacked, Bradenburg shall help them in any way.

I,King of Bradenburg, have tried to help the King of Sweden, but we have of course done Peace with Poland. But, we wish for the war between Sweden and poland to stop. it is useless, wasting money and lives, if neccsary, I shall send in an army as an Peace Keeping Force, to keep order and stop this war.

To the Ottoman Sultan
i shall not attack you with my army, but *i warn of you. Stop at Vienna, if you keep advancing into Europe, you shall encounter more then the HRE,Papal States and Spain, you shall encounter Prussia,France and the Netherlands, you shall encounter Poland,Sweden and Russia, and all shall make it there clear motion to stop you. All armies combined would be un stoppable, as all are much more modern then the ottoman Army. So i say this, if you come near Brandenburg (Prussia) I shall attack with an all out force. If you attack my allies and Friedns (Netherlands,Sweden,poland,France and England) I shall attack you, and if you advance any further into Europe, i shall attack.

To the German Emperor
I am greatly disappointed you still kill the Rebels, rather then persuade them to join you again?

I make you this offer German Emperor, capture as many Rebels as you can, but can you hand at least half of them to brandenburg?


OOC- BTW, what name do you think better, Brandenburg or Prussia?

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To the Ottoman Sultan
i shall not attack you with my army, but *i warn of you. Stop at Vienna, if you keep advancing into Europe, you shall encounter more then the HRE,Papal States and Spain, you shall encounter Prussia,France and the Netherlands, you shall encounter Poland,Sweden and Russia, and all shall make it there clear motion to stop you. All armies combined would be un stoppable, as all are much more modern then the ottoman Army. So i say this, if you come near Brandenburg (Prussia) I shall attack with an all out force. If you attack my allies and Friedns (Netherlands,Sweden,poland,France and England) I shall attack you, and if you advance any further into Europe, i shall attack.

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Now I am scared... May I remind you that as a European country (at least 35 or % European) I have as much right to wage war in Europe as you do. Though should the new Emperor not be as provocative as he his predecessor was I will not advance any further. You know, it is arrogant threats such as these talking of your supposed superiority in battle and of faith that led me to attack. So try to cool down on these for a while and go fight with the protestant rebels and die honourably instead.

Message from the Government of Netherlands:

"Netherlands will accept the invitation to London,while at current situation it seems peace is not coming in to Europe in near future. But if we talk maybe we understand each other better."

Emissary of Netherlands

Sorry, honourable SUltan. i was testing you for a reply. You seem not ready to jump down, and I accpet your position as one European Country. BUt, i was saying in my own way, of this -

I meant that if you were to threaten my country, I would attack as any other country. But to this collection of Nations in EUrope, we see you as an invader, and take it too heart. if only people were to solve problems diplomaticlly! The German Empire threw threats at you, and threw out bait, now you have bitten it, and charged forward recklessly into its territory! of course we threaten, tease and insult you! You are seen as invaders! SO do not take it to heart when we try to insult you Geat Sultan, and I personbally say we stop this useless war for now, and think on our actions, as right now the German Empire, the ottoman EMpire and all invloved with Vienna, are acting very stupidly, and take this as no insult, but advice.

The German Government.

We said we supported Poland, we did not say we would aid it, it an impossobility, both politicaly and in point of fact.

We will not recognise any rebel, he can only expect to be hung drawn and quatered if he enters our lands, as can all rebels.

Again, the affront of Vienna being taken is to much at the moment, thus we cannot accept any peace terms at the moment.

Most Noble Friends of Brandenburg?
We would appreciate it if you formely denounced the Rebels, as such. We shall not hand over any of them that are captured, though we expect a fine man such as you'reself to hand over any fleeing traitors to Imperial authority.

brandenburg shall hand over the leader and co-leaders, for a price. We welcome and other protestant rebels an home in our lands while I am king, all but for those which are hunted.

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Originally Posted by Marshal Murat

We in Poland believe that Guy Fawkes was wrongly accused of such a crime! If he had a match in a room full of barrels, that does not render him criminal if those barrels were filled with gunpowder!
The materials inside such cases are null and void to the case and charge that he is accused of.
Free Fawkes! He could have wanted to find his glasses, or identify where the cord of hemp led to. It is not his fault that someone placed gunpowder in those barrels.

OOC:Isn't this someones sig? Not serious, but still.

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King James wishes it to be known that if our polish friends want to have Fawkes, they can have him!!
If they will provide us with an address, we will arrange for the five parcels to be delivered to them. Our apologies if they smell at bit, but they have been hanging on pikes by one of the gates to the city since he was hung, drawn and quartered in 1606!!
For those interested in Guy and his fate - see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy_fawkes

He is often refered to as the only man to enter Parliament with honest intentions!!

My apologies, Ferdinand. Your thirst for blood will not be quenched, I am taking a ship from Sweden. Ferdinand, I have no problems with you. You are not my former ally, but you have not attacked me, so you are a neutral party. No different. If you want me dead, the only negative thing I have to say is that I do not plan on dying soon, although if you are patient, you will get your wish at some time or another. There is one catch, and that is if you wish to live to see my death or not. God willing, I live a long, healthy life in which I restore my line to its former prestige not just in Russia, but throughout Europe.