I say we test the new Holmes on this guy...Quote:
Originally Posted by Pannonian
[edit]: The guy Pannonian quoted - Hannibalbarc
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I say we test the new Holmes on this guy...Quote:
Originally Posted by Pannonian
[edit]: The guy Pannonian quoted - Hannibalbarc
I know, but why was this time special for getting 2? Shouldn't you try getting 2 all the time? or 3? or 4?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sigurd Fafnesbane
was it just a slightly weird formulation?
btw, I'm not really convinced by the points made against GH. I don't agree he should be lynched. we have better options..
edit: add hannibalbarc to the lynch list.. edit2: ok, possible misunderstanding of his post.. take him off the list again :P
I am not defending anyone here, just making an observation
I think we need to remember that a townie can show up as a criminal 1/6 times, even if he has done nothing the entire game. We need to take some of these investigation reports with a grain of salt, thats all.
As to Director I select: Abstain for now.
I imagine he's not voting anyone for director, just voting "present" to show he's here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pannonian
I don't think I'd trust Glenn even if I had proof he was pro-town.
Not at all...Quote:
Originally Posted by Drisos
I want to test Holmes and I also wanted to vote for Tiberius.
We could throw any other into the tie ... but the best we have are criminals... not conclusive at all.
Oh, I thought gh was director, my bad, Select:GH.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pannonian
I think somebody already did, btw how does it work?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sigurd Fafnesbane
the evidence against GH is conclusive? :embarassed:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sigurd Fafnesbane
You and Andres are just too guilty! :dizzy2: :dizzy2: :wall:
Damn... problem reading?? NOT conclusive.Quote:
Originally Posted by Drisos
Well, we lynch you, then we compare the autopsy with the Holmes analysis. Speaking of which,Quote:
Originally Posted by Hannibalbarc
Unvote: Tiberius of the Drake
Vote: Hannibalbarc
I want to see the new toy in action.
It is an application developed by Kommodus. We have all experienced its power in the past. Kommodus have apparently upgraded it again and you came up on top in the first search.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hannibalbarc
I would want to test it to see if the result is correct...
Sadly that is only done by lynching you and wait for the result 3 days later where your role will be revealed publicly.
you could lynch someone else.~DQuote:
Originally Posted by Sigurd Fafnesbane
Bah. You're a don, you have a made under you, who could easily investigate and give you the results.Quote:
Do note, everybody, how CrazedRabbit first claims me to be a Don, then gives terrible evidence against me being a criminal because Made Gangsters can investigate.
Bing-o. Andres was the one person unavailable last night. The fake Asian was without a partner, and Andres came up as guilty according to Sasaki, meaning he killed somebody night one. And the ballet slipper mafia was the only group to kill somebody night one.Quote:
This is not correct. If I have been unclear my apologies, but the Director is escorted by police all night and cannot participate in an "active" night action. Investigations (made, detective, FBI) can occur, and possibly some other "special" abilities, but nothing else.
Now who doesn't know the rules, Louis? ~;p
Are you saying you know the person who gave you those is a detective?Quote:
I promise you these are 100% accurate.
And since it seems like we're going to lynch Andres tomorrow, I'll
unvote: Andres
vote: Glenn
select: Louis
Mainly because he's not Andres.
Tally:
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CR
No. Look:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sigurd Fafnesbane
Sounded like you named the 'any other (criminals)' as 'not conclusive'. Didn't sound at all like you were mentioning GH as not conclusive.Quote:
We could throw any other into the tie ... but the best we have are criminals... not conclusive at all.
and I don't see GH on the 'investigated list'?
btw, if we should get double lynches anyway.. why not take Pannonian? He can discuss along (just like me) anyway, and we will not have certainty on him begin wiseguy or worse otherwise.Quote:
CrazedRabbit: Innocent
Andres: Criminal
Pannonian: Criminal
Omanes Alexandrapolites: Innocent
Glenn: Innocent
Only downside is less voting power for town, assuming that Pannonian is actually indeed townie-minded.
edit: gah, CR, gah
I didn't do my vote for Director earlier. So, since I trust absolutely no one:
Select: Vacant
955
Really? Maybe there is another role out there designed to protect us. Maybe there is something within the role. Who knows. But there are more logical possibilities than two.Quote:
We have to assume that because that's the only logical explanation.
Yes, he has made the assertion that we have crossed the line in revealing information repeatedly. He has used this to prove that we are mafia because "we couldn't reveal that without breaking the red PM rule" but Seamus has cleared almost everything we've revealed, the only thing was a slip by Glenn, we both realize this crossed the line and was a simple slip. That is the only thing that has crossed the line. By beating the "we broke the rules" dead horse he's trying to tar and feather us.Quote:
Twist the facts?
A slip on Glenn's part. Covered above.Quote:
I believe you both said your entire role PM's were red or most of them anyways. You didn't post the part of your PM's that may not have been red. This to me is starting to seem more and more like a ploy. Saying your entire PM is red then using a part of the PM that apparently isn't red to help Glenn and your case. It's a strange phenomenon I guess.
He or she will be WoG'd and then hopefully we'll get a new one (hopefully). Until then me and Glenn will try to stay alive so we can bring the hurt to the mafia later.Quote:
I'm betting they made up the Red PM. The third person has not been willing to come forward (Though I have my suspicions) and until that happens I can't trust that they are telling the truth.
957
See above. As far as SEAMUS can tell we haven't. And trust me, you don't know much about our roles.Quote:
Even if he does come forward...it might be fake.
If they are telling the truth, as far as I can tell, they've broken the rules. We know alot about their roles even though they weren't alowed to tell us. Odd? I think so.
Yup, and Seamus cleared us telling that.Quote:
-We know there is 3
ZOMG! They told us what side they're on! They've obviously told us the entirety of their role PMs! :thumbsdown:Quote:
-They are "pro-town"
We didn't tell you what they were, what they were for, or any details.Quote:
-They use code-words
Allusion, innuendo, and generally without details. I fail to see what this really tells you about the role.Quote:
-Glenn "is a detective with a sword"
:laugh4: You obviously don't really don't know that much about our role.Quote:
-They can save lives
751. Cleared by game host.Quote:
-Roles in red
The one mistake, see above. Apologies all around again.Quote:
-They appear unclear
959
I'm being a little sarcastic on the pro-town thing. The fact is I don't particularly trust you. You seem so intent on lynching Glenn and I you seem to be looking through blinders. Which seems scummy to me. The 'attitude', I'm telling you you're wrong, and I'm telling you you look scummy when you twist facts like you are. If you are pro-town then say it straight. Simple as that.Quote:
Lose the attitude, if I were modding the game I'd have WoG'd you both. Maybe seamus is more lenient. How come you express certainty that I'm an innocent townie?
1038
Is is a strong word CR, you don't know you have suspicions. Which make some sense, Glenn is erratic, and our story is fishy. But I tell you it is true.Quote:
PEOPLE - last round we were going to kill Glenn off because he is a Don! Why has attention turned from him? Remember, made gangsters can investigate!
This is just like when Prole came under suspicion in Capo I after she was saved by her Luca on night one. The town failed there by not lynching her then. Let's not make the same mistake in Capo II.
And there is a big difference between Glenn and Prole, Prole was a Donna, Glenn is not.
1056
Those detective results confuse me. Hmm. Odds maybe? I seem to remember investigations having odds for success in Capo I. Anyway, I hope that at least pushes us back in the lynch line. Anyone else investigate us?
Of the people who are up for director, I trust Louis the most. so:
Select: Louis VI the Fat
Of the people on the chopping block I trust few of them. But, I know that Pann is a criminal based on the investigation I conducted last night, so he's at least a wiseguy.
Vote: Pannonian
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Even if you trust no one, there's good reason to choose someone. I'd pick sasaki right now... but ok... your choice. (scummy though :P lol)Quote:
Originally Posted by TinCow
oops, wrong tab.
Never mind.
Unselect: Andres
Select: Abstain
Just while I remember - I don't know who to select.
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Vote:GH I don't like the way he's playing.
I've put Glenn on ignore because I'm tired of reading his dribble of crap that isn't really relevent at all.
This is confusing for the two votes and count in general but for the
Director: Kagemush
Lynch: Abstain
There have been many accusations and when we look at the first lynch vote to the second there is a big difference.
There have been many suggestions but no follow up.
Is there a Glenn JimBob connection? Do they both come up innocent?
What about Twilight's last vote? Has there been a reasonable explanation to his last minute entry.
The other NN noreweigenerd was mentioned a lot in the first round because of comments and nothing this round. Is he innocent?
Someone asked about Beefy187. Why was he the target?
There are a lot of players and a lot of reading. All we have to go is circumstantial evidence (our remarks or comments) but one comment cannot confirm guilt. FoS yes.
I can see a lot of suspicion but have not read anything that will put anyone beyond suspicion to guilty. I would think 3 or 4 points of circumstantial evidence would be sufficient for a lynching. It is early still but we have already shown no objectivity on lynching or analyzing the past night’s activities.
One thing I have found handy subscribing to the thread makes it much easier to read and catch up then reading in email then post in the thread. Just a suggestion for anyone missing a day and wonder how they can try to catch up on the game.
Tally:
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Corrected Tally:
Lynch Votes
Tiberius of the Drake = 13 (Ajaxfetish, Brave Sir Robin, Charge, Dutch_guy, GeneralHankerchief, Haudegan, Kagemusha, Myrdrraal, scottishranger, shlin28, TinCow, TruePraetorian, Xehh II)
GeneralHankerchief = 3 (Omanes Alexandrapolites, Proletariat, Ichigo)
Glenn = 3 (Andres, CountArach, Crazed Rabbit)
Hannibalbarc = 3 Sigurd, Sasaki, Pannonian
Andres = 1 (Hannibal Barc)
Pannonian = 2 (Tiberius of the Drake, JimBob)
Twilightblade = 1 (Tran)
Kagemusha = 2 (Caius, Glenn)
Abstain: 1 (Northnovas)
Director Selections:
Louis VI the Fat = 4 (Tiberius of the Drake, Louis, JimBob, CR)
Andres = 1 (Andres)
Abstain = 3 (Ajaxfetish, scottishranger, CountArach)
General Hankerchief = 2 (GeneralHankerchief, Hannibalarc)
Kagemusha = 4 (Kukrikhan, Kage, FactionHeir, Northnovas)
The Stranger = 1 (The Stranger)
Caius = 1 (Caius)
TruePraetorian = 1 (TruePraetorian)
Vacant = 1 (TinCow)
Forgot to select earlier so I will:
Select: Abstain
I agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki
Vote: Hannibalbarc
I'm actually just as eager to find out if I'm right as everyone else...
I believe CR has a role here other than basic townie, but beyond that I can't tell what it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Glenn
Select: Beefy187
I don't know if he's innocent or not, but I'd like to select someone we know the mafia would like to off.
Tally:
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vote: Glenn - How on earth was he not lynched?
select: Louis VI the Fat
Select: Omanes Alexandrapolites
He's come up as innocent in investigation results or so it has been claimed, and he hasn't been acting in any strange manner so I'm willing to believe he isn't a Don.
Vote: Abstain
I have to go through all the pages I've missed, (was sick yesterday), and reassess what I've missed.
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Originally Posted by Drisos
What possible good reason could I have to give immunity to someone I don't trust? This "scummy" word is being tossed around an awful lot lately. I don't even think you people know what it means. I'm a complete mafia noob, and even I can tell that practically no one knows what is going on. We're all flailing at nothing, desperately looking for some kind of solid evidence where there is none, and then convincing ourselves that we're right, at least until we change our minds 12 hours later.
Seriously, having not played mafia before. How is it possible for the townies to ever win when they act like this?
I still think Tiberius's story is full of holes, but the town seems to have taken care of him. I, however, too want to see if this new method of Holmes works, especially on someone who, before he was accused by Kommodus, had barely made any posts. Before the accusation, here are Hannibalbarc's posts, in order:
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Originally Posted by Hannibalbarc
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Originally Posted by Hannibalbarc
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Originally Posted by Hannibalbarc
I don't know how much of a case you can make from that, but Kommodus's methods of finding mafia have been successful in the past. Besides, in short time we can discover if it really works (after the autopsy).Quote:
Originally Posted by Hannibalbarc
I will Vote: Hannibalbarc and Select: Louis the Fat, because I don't see any reason to suspect him (yet :beam: ).
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Now every bloody tally since then does not have Louis voting for GH...Quote:
Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat
Vote: GeneralHankerchief
Select: Louis VI the Fat
Well, I trust Louis so far and I have also heard from other sources that GH is guilty, if that is possible, maybe we can tie votes and have the director lynch two or three guys?(Tiberius, GH and Glenn for example or any two of them ~;) )
This keeps coming up and I'm still confused. Wasn't Beefy attacked only on the first night? Didn't pevergreen form and participate in a vigilante squad to attack Beefy (supposedly for the purposes of training a doctor/surgeon)? How do we know the mafia want Beefy dead, or is it just a misinterpretation of the first night's actions?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kommodus
And why not put a Frenchman in the director's chair for a day.
unselect: abstain
select: Louis
Ajax