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I don't understand how there could be a catch to extra unit slots?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tellos Athenaios
Are you feeling good sport today?
If yes: use your brains and find out for yourself what & why (it's a typical 'parsing' mistake programmers make; but I'm sure you'll be able to 'discover it by yourself' and slap yourself on the forehead for it)
If no:Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
What instance are you talking about? I erased the beginning paragraphs to leave nothing but the unit slot info. Are there comments in between some of the unit slot info? If so what line (so I can use "Go to" for once)?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tellos Athenaios
You could use 'find' until you get to one.
To make it quick and easy : There are so many changes between EB1 and EB2 units that you can count, re-count and calculate in every manner you want you will not be able to know how many new slots are available for EB2.Quote:
Originally Posted by a completely inoffensive name
And if you ask to know what this number is we won't give you an answer nor an estimate.
Buhahahaha :beam:
But that would depend on how you have worked on the EDU. Did you start over with a totally blank EDU and are working your way up to 500, or did you import the units from EBI and have begun to "whittle" down the unnecessary and lower priority units to make room for the new faction units? (Yes, I know all the units will be "new" in that they will look different then from EBI because of the improved graphics and variability models.)Quote:
Originally Posted by Spendios
in everywhere i read about thracians they talk about thracian infantry and very much about them. In eb there is only thracian pelatists, and elite infantry and bastarnae. no normal thracian infantry.
the thracian peltasts I'm afraid are there for a purpose. you can even look at their secondary weapon if you don't believe me.Quote:
Originally Posted by ludwag
Bastarnae aren't Thracians, and the Thracian peltasts are what you would classify as generic Thracian infantry.Quote:
Originally Posted by ludwag
Thraikioi Doryphoroi..? Literally means Thracian spear-bearers. Or spear-armed, can't recall. Something with spear.Quote:
in everywhere i read about thracians they talk about thracian infantry and very much about them. In eb there is only thracian pelatists, and elite infantry and bastarnae. no normal thracian infantry.
but not all use javelins and skhirmishing. some used only swords and shields and was infantry (like in vanilla rtw)
*shrug*
Skudra Tabari...
In an ideal world it would be possible to give some members of the unit javelins and not others, but it isn't. Besides, more Thracians would have had javelins than not had them so it doesn't really justify using another unit slot and you don't have to use them as skirmishers in any case.Quote:
Originally Posted by ludwag
you mean like these guys?Quote:
Originally Posted by ludwag
https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g...istribalii.gif
haha, or galathraikioi. really, our thracian roster is rather robust. there'll be some alterations for EB2, but i'm not sure i see anywhere that we'd need to add any units for the thracians.
i diddnt mean that. but the infantry wasnt skirmishers even though they had javelins, most of them. If they was using skirmishing it was in a much smaller scale, but that wasnt a part of their main use, it was only their fighting style.Quote:
Originally Posted by strategos alexandros
If playing as thracians it cant be mostly skirmishers in the army. it has to be infantry.
I don't understand at all what you mean. Are Roman legionaries also skirmishers and not infantry since they are equipped with throwing weapons ?Quote:
Originally Posted by ludwag
The unit you suggest is exactly like a thracian peltast when he has thrown all his javelins !
you are the first one to understand what I mean. but i dont really know. I know that their infantry are not pelatists. And I know that i cant base an army on skirmishers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spendios
Peltasts aren't only skirmishers. They can also be used as shock infantry, but they certainly aren't line infantry. However the unit you drew was not line infantry either. There are Thracian spearmen. I'm sorry if they are not enough, but as it seems you don't even know what you want. As Paullus said our thracian line-up (where some of the getian troops can also stand in for thracian units) is fairly comprehensive and there really isn't room to expand it any further.
Foot
You seem to be hung up on the term "peltast." Just forget that they're peltasts and think of them as Thracian infantry.Quote:
Originally Posted by ludwag
The Thraikioi Peltastai are actually exellent infanty. They're actually one of my favourit units.
But, as has been said, there are quite a loot of Thraikian units, so just adding another, that is basically the same as Thraikioi Peltastai, but without the javelins, seems pointless.
You have after all (pardon me, if my spelling of these names is incorrect):
Thraikioi Doryphoroi
Thraikioi Peltastai
Thraikioi Romphaiaphoroi
Taxeis Triballoi
Thraikioi Hippeis
Thraikioi Prodromoi
That is four infantry units, and two cavalry units, and in addition to this, you also have some Getic units. I'd say that the Thraikians are one of the more numerous and diverse non-faction roosters.
And Gallathraikes.
Aren't the Tarabostes Thracian too?
i was thinking maybe the slovanic Богатйрй (Bogatyeiryei). Fight mounted or dismounted, usually with spears or swords. Records show that they used chainmail with a round-top helm with a nose-guard. Possibly some chain mail hanging off the helm to protect the neck and shoulders form blows. Nothing to protect the legs usually, but the chainmail usually hangs down to the knees. Also used a round medum-sixed shild, probably 2 feet in diameter with a metal handguard or whatever in the middle.
What records, what evidence? Sounds like an interesting unit, but also sounds suspiciously late to me.
Foot
Wouldn't the early Slavs have been considered Scythians or Sarmatians? That aside, I support new Slavic units, as they are a little underrepresented at the moment.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ghaseken
Also, I would like to see an Illyrian Hoplite unit of some sort, or at least more Illyrian units. At the moment, I think there are only three representing the Illyrian culture. More Balkan-faction units would be nice in general.
You're right. The Bogatiry were a Medieval unit that existed no earlier than 900 AD at the very least. That is, of course, way, way later than the time EB II takes place and such unit would be more appropriate for M2TW.Quote:
Originally Posted by Foot
BTW, speaking of M2TW, I just got it two days ago, tried it and found it to be rubbish. I guess I am just going to play EB I until another better game comes out - if that is possible.
maybe i just dont like that is says "missile" when holding over them.Quote:
Originally Posted by MeinPanzer