I doubt it, dancing with dragons is already running with only half content, I dont think he will have to split in two again. But then again it's two months away, anything could happen.
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I doubt it, dancing with dragons is already running with only half content, I dont think he will have to split in two again. But then again it's two months away, anything could happen.
Well, just finished A Feast For Crows. Time to go look through all of the spoiler posts from earlier. :book:
My opinion on Book #4:
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Just finished the first book, onto the second!
i couldnt wait any longer so i just ordered book 1-4 XD
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I refused to read AFFC until Dance with Dragons came out. They were both supposed to be one book originally, but the publisher forced Martin to split it and he seemed to peter out on the ensuing re-write.Quote:
Originally Posted by Centurion1
As I've said, I haven't read AFFC yet, but I think a big part of the reason people think it's slow going is because it's really just half of a book as it was originally envisioned. However, now that ADWD seems to be a sure thing, I might finally sink my teeth into AFFC.
Edit: Oh yeah, the series... The three episodes I've seen are all pretty good- but like Lemur, I think some off the grandeur has been lost in translation. Also, going by memory, I think HBO has placed more emphasis on the T&A than was in the books- but hey, it's HBO so I'd expect no less. :shrug:
haha start reading a affc adwd comes out in about a month or so.
Just a wee bit behind you, 100 pages to go. I'm really seeing why people said Dragon Age:Origins was influenced by the series, not just the Sers and the like, so many incidental details make me think of DA:O. I am enjoying it but I don't think it's quite as good as made out. Tyrion is awesome though, I haven't been so intrigued by a character in a book in a long time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hooahguy
was DA really influenced by it? I didnt really think so.
Episode 8 was fantastic. Loved how they portrayed Barristan Selmy's indignation to his dismissal.
Though I worry how they will finish everything in two more episodes. Theres a lot more to the story, and I dont feel that episode 8 covered enough "ground" if you know what I mean.
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I mean, there are two battles to be fought still. Thats a lot.[/spoil]
I think they've had maybe two more scenes of notable T&A&boning that weren't in the book so far.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xiahou
However, they've had to cram more and more into each episode as it goes on and it's only going to become more difficult. My head would be spinning from the latest one if I hadn't read the books.
Yea, I think its two. One is when Theon was doing it with that prostitute, the other when Littlefinger was telling those two girls who about him and Cat.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alexander the Pretty Good
no the two i really know aren't in the books are the renly and loras one which disgusted me (as it would most men) and also shocked me for being so grossly vulgar and the theon one like you said. Im not sure about the littlefinger one but it at least is totally more believable. Also viserys one may be extra (i tihnk thats danys brother?)
HBO has to fill its sex and nudity quota anyway.
anyway i need to reread them all names and places are starting to blur. i have all of them but am waiting on the library for game of thrones since i cant find it since we moved.
Oh yeah, forgot about those two.Quote:
Originally Posted by Centurion1
So that brings it up to four.
Eh, I view it as a useful shortcut for the whole Renly + Loras thing that was never explicit in the books. The show simply doesn't have the time for outright subtly, so they use the explicit scene to convey information that becomes more important much later on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Centurion1
I guess the Visarys one is also non-canon, though I thought it was clear Vis did a lot of whoring with Dothraki slaves, including at least one of Dany's servants.
EDIT: They also didn't show Ned and Cat going at it which is in like the first or second of one of their POV chapters, so the show is also one short. :D
i never thought the renly loras thing was that blatant!
It wasn't, but they don't have the time to just hint at it for four seasons...
Maybe I was not paying attention or maybe I am just not "most men", but I don't recall anything memorable about that scene except that the Loras got his shirt off and appalled Crazed Rabbit at his apparent state of under-nutrition. :laugh4:Quote:
Originally Posted by Centurion1
I'm continuing to read the first book after watching the show and continue to be impressed at the adaption. The additions to the book are nearly always understandable ways of explaining the story - for example, I liked the Tywin/Jaime deer-skinning scene. The Littlefinger girl-on-girl action was a little over the top though and seemed the only false note so far. And dramatically, his betrayal would have been better coming more out of left field (still caught me by surprise though). The subtractions from the book are usually judicious, although I regret we did not get the Sansa/Hound scene where he explained how he got his scars. Those are two interesting characters that are a little under-used so far and the scene would have added to them. We did find out about the scars third hand and get a small Sansa/Hound scene yesterday, but it was not as good as the original.
My favorite exchange of last night's episode was not in the book, but showed the strengths of the pithy TV adaption. Ned was in chains in the dungeon, visited by Varys.
Ned: "Who do you really serve?"
Varys: "The realm, of course - someone has to."
For a moment, Varys morphed into Sir Humphrey from "Yes, Minister".
i lve the hound.
anyway im just going to put it on the table econ............. he gave him a blowjob. it wasn't subtly implied it was blatant.
I'm pretty sure that bit was in the book, maybe abit more fleshed out but it was there.Quote:
Originally Posted by econ21
I didn't mind the scene at all, but I don't think it was there just to show that they were banging. Wasn't it made pretty clear during the earlier tournament scene that the two were together? I think it was more about establishing the power dynamic between the two (I won't begin to try and remember their names), with the non-noble one pushing the less ambitious potential heir to try and take the throne.Quote:
Originally Posted by Centurion1
The girl on girl scene was a bit more problematic, only because my roommate's mother happened to stop by to visit while he was out and decided to wait on him to return. She walked in right before the scene and after some small talk she noticed that I had the show paused. She asked me about it and I told her how well done it was and how much I liked it and she told me to start it up and she would watch it with me while she waited. Longest. Scene. Evar. :no:
She pretended that she needed to collect his dirty laundry in his room to do a wash and left near the end of it. (He does his own laundry.)
they are both noble. Loras the young "pretty boy" is the son of one of the most powerful houses in westeros.
i didnt mind the scene so much because it was gay. such a scene would have bothered me the same if it was heterosexual. i just dont like sex in my movies and tv because it can make things awkward and i feel it is often tasteless and for horndogs watching or shock appeal. sex is sometimes needed to be shown but it can be done more tastefully.
Take it backQuote:
Originally Posted by PanzerJaeger
Meh, reality>tastefully done IMOQuote:
i didnt mind the scene so much because it was gay. such a scene would have bothered me the same if it was heterosexual. i just dont like sex in my movies and tv because it can make things awkward and i feel it is often tasteless and for horndogs watching or shock appeal. sex is sometimes needed to be shown but it can be done more tastefully.
reality does not equal pornographic hbo sex............
It was in the books, it's certainly not a deviant act, etc
All I'm going to say as the thread doesn't need to go in this direction
lol no it was not in the books.
Well played sir, well playedQuote:
Originally Posted by Centurion1
lol i understand your point though. i just dont enjoy it personally. For example i would love to watch this with my father or mother but obviously doing so would be absurdly awkward because of the nudity.
The other one is the king's brother, right? So only he could have a valid claim to the throne after the king's death... err, at least more valid than the other. To me, it seemed like Loras was playing the other one to become more powerful himself - sort of a twist on the whole wife pulling the strings behind her husband cliché. I haven't read the books so I don't know if that is how it will play out, though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Centurion1
eh its all fabricated so none of us will have any idea how it will play out in that specific dynamic except for what martin tells us in the books which as has been stated is very very vague and not necessarily even true