All I got from this is you're in Europe and not Texas
Sad.
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All I got from this is you're in Europe and not Texas
Sad.
Also being taken over, the Turks already own 800000 square miles of commercial space in Texas: https://www.turkcommercialleasing.comQuote:
Originally Posted by Strike For The South
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Out of the three recent terrorist attacks in London, 2 were done by Muslims, 1 was done by extreme-right. So "Not worthy of consideration" would be incorrect, especially given the attention you place upon the Muslim population by comparison.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fragony
I am not nearly as fixated as you make it sound. It are the people who relativate horrible tnings that frighten me. I myself scare me because I agree with a lot that Breivik psycho said about cultural marxism. That terrorism and violence is almost exclusive to muslims and leftists is simply a factQuote:
Originally Posted by Beskar
Now that is simply silly Fragony. I know that you know better than that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fragony
Yes, there are such things as Left-wing terrorism but you cite examples like Brevik, a high-profile right-wing case, when Left-wing terrorism is more like the environmentalists camped outside of the road down my street protesting against fracking and climbing upon vehicles and battling local farmers who are spraying sewage at them to get them off their land. Different kettle of fish.
So your "simply a fact" is wrong.
Western liberals and socialists, where they consort with terrorism, tend to sympathise with and excuse terrorists rather than indulge in the pastime themselves. And that, they do plenty of.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beskar
Leftist terrorism doesn't really exist, not the RAF type at least. But violence and intimidation absolutily does, tnese 'anitifacists' are no angels and come with great numbers, just recently in Hamburg more than a hundred police-officers were injured, some will never be ok again, beaten with iron staves, even set on fire.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beskar
That's the violence part. Actual terrorism not a muslim thing mostly, common, just because most muslims are nice people doesn't mean that terrorism is almost exclusive to muslims. You aren't doing anyone a favour when denying that, especially the normal ones who only care about what's for dinner. That's the other problem with leftists, they confuse what is with how they want things to be. I also want things to be like that, but things aren't
*Attaches chain, drags thread back on topic.*
If you want to debate the virtues of Socialist Apologists start your own threads.
Turkey, last I heard they were seizing Chalcedeen Churches to turn into Mosques.
I think we can downgrade Turkey from "slippery slope" to "Despotic Fascist State."
It's 26/07/2017 and the President of Turkey might just be a bigger Fascist than Putin.
Oh well, the thing is, Putin is actually an educated and smart guy, while being all the despot he is, ruthless against opposition, he actually can strengthen his own country. (No, I do not vote for such a figure, no matter what)Quote:
Originally Posted by Philippus Flavius Homovallumus
Erdogan, on the other hand, is more like Mussolini, some uneducated ad mythomaniac idiot watching himself in a magnifying mirror of whom actions did no less than destabilizing its economy, wasting 15 years on construction sector only, piling up his own riches, making cocky statements against USA/Russia/EU/whomever to be used for his "world leader" image in the country, eventually backtracking every single time.
Serious state-wide power, not some paper-tiger level like Turkey's been turned into, would be ultimately dangerous in his hands, far worse you could imagine than Putin could ever be. He's actually Abou Kim Jong-ûl Un of which country's geopolitical position is far too entangled with others to be ignored - that works both for and against him.
It is sad when the discussion drops down to the QUALITY of the fascism involved...I am sad for Turkey.
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Originally Posted by LeftEyeNine
Be carefull effendi, what you say doesn't go unnoticed, before you know it you will be a Gülen-supporter. Be more carefull please, I would be really sad if you meet 'your countrymen'
LÖL, this excruciatingly brings Ahmet Şık, the journalist, into my mind.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fragony
The guy was one of the first journalists to have mentioned some kind of "deep state" that "schemes and shapes governing of Turkey via very unconventional methods", the Ergenekon organization.
To his demise, having such a bold history of journalism, he was apprehended by Fethullah Gülen-apostle police force, because of his then-yet-to-be-published book titled "İmamın Ordusu" (Army of the Imam) which explored FETÖ epidemic within the government and security forces of Turkey, hilariously alleged of being an "Ergenekon Terrorist Organization member" this time.
He is such a solid character that, following his release after abolishment of most of FETÖ within policemen and other government institutions, because of openly and heavily criticizing AKP government, he has been jailed again due to "supporting FETÖ" apparently to form a ridiculous cycle of allegations.
Briefly, Ahmet Şık mentioned Ergenekon for the first time, got jailed by FETÖ accused of being Ergenekon member, and then got jailed by AKP regime accused of symphatizing FETÖ.
Ahmet Şık, alone, is the embodiment of 15 years of history of Turkey, if not reaching longer back.
@Seamus Fermanagh :blank:
Be careful yourself. What if he is not effendi, but pasha?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fragony
I thought 'effendi' was just 'wise man', I never looked any further I took it for a politeness-form. i didn't know it was a loaded term
Literally means "gentleman/sir" in modern times, no probs with using it, definitely none with me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fragony
By the way, tragic coincidence that Ahmet Şık's trial was today.
He has finished yet again a manifesto-esque defense on his part and the courtroom was deafening with applauses as he finished it.
You can find the transcript of his defense in English below. It is also instrumental on clarifying why he is such an automatical target for tyrannies and on getting insights into the last 15 years of Turkey, FETÖ, AKP and RTE.
Click: https://ecpmf.eu/get-help/fact-findi...he-journalists
Feel sorry for you Turks, even here you can't escape, maybe not the right word. It's odd, I have no Turkish friends or even aquantacis,The brother of the captain of the Marrocan national team was here yesterday, I know plenty of Suri's and not sp plenty Indonesians, but no Turks, at all, you are the closest to knowing a Turk and many live here
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-e...ble-dress-code
Turkish women marching in protest at being squeezed by Turkey's conservative Muslims.
Finally a situation where saying "you go, girl!" is totally germane.
This Iranian woman asks some questions to the childless Mutti as well https://www.geenstijl.nl/5137906/hoo...nder/#comments
Oh weird, it's in Dutch.
No it isn't it's German, THESE are the people whe shouldn't let downQuote:
Originally Posted by Strike For The South