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A late reply for your qustion Hetman,
regarding the Vityez.
You said that they might be more early medieval. I tacked them on the list because they appeared in CDV,s Cossacks Game (the developers are Russian, you'd think they'd know there stuff, but maybe not) So I think they might have still been in use XVIth century. But couldn't swear to it.
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Well, I asked my dad (hes russian) and he said that the Vityaz were very early medieval heavy cavalry for the russian princes. Somewhere around IX-XI cent. So the guys of Cossacks just made up the unit to reflect that Russia had rather obsolete army or something, or just used the name for estetic reasons.Quote:
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BTW, it was my comment http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...s/bigthumb.gif
@ hetman, i didnt receive any email yet, are you sure about the email address, or maybe the attachement was very large?
Coz i have to tidy up my storage space. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...s/rolleyes.gif
The Ideas for tartars are really good, but as they were really light cav, theyr armour shouldnt get any higher than 2. I know it doesnt in your units, but what if you get armour enhacements? They could finish with armor 5 which is not light or even historically accurate. Maybe the Tartar cavalry shouldnt get armour upgrades, but only moral improvement or something.
The prob with the period is that everyone tended to wear less armour but better weapons as time passed, so i dont really see the point of having armourer buildings in the mod.
Another suggestion is for Cossacks ( Nomad gave me the idea, http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...ons/cheers.gif ) Is cossacks horse archers.
I remember seeing in a cossack museum in Zaporozhye, 3 meter bows fired from horseback, maybe we should implement them as well...
Im reading the guides in the Repository, (dont have much modding experience) so i might be able to help you with something after the 1st of june.
Well, if there is some problems with the protestant religion at the moment, why not concentrate on the first era first, so there no Protestants around yet?
Massive reply here.
SwordsMaster
I think if you turn off the fire at will, they wont reveal themselves. You are right, once they shoot they are revealed, but the same happened with the ninjas.
The question is the AI will waste this unit's ability if armed with a ranged weapon. Of course if a human player is the commander it is entirely different matter. I believe we'll have to choose.
In a more general manner, the spanish military flag was some background (depending on the army corps) and ALWAYS a red burgundian cross.
Please, send me the flag You think is the most adequate. Changing the flag is very simple.
Ok, they could increase catholic zeal in catholic provs, and make increasingly catholic non-catholic provs.
Yes, it seems to be the best solution, but probably not every unit should have this ability.
But to counter a lil bit that combat against pikes, give pikemen somewhat higher morale.
I'm going to but because of lots of gunpowder weapons on battlefields at that time.
1-If you are going to make emissaries more expensive, then allow everyone to start with 2 or 3 of them from the beginning.
Should be easy to implement.
Then they should be a skirmishing unit, armed with a pistol, and a dagger.
How many bullets ?
Or alternatively(...)That looks too complicated tho...
Yes and impossible too...
Trax
Why not concentrate first on one era and when its ready the others could follow?
First I need more info concerning such cauntries as Sweden, England, France, Italian states at that time. I mean every kind of info - trade goods, units, provincional income and titles and so on.
In that case people who will play full campaign will find themselves in entirely catholic Europe till the end though.
Only if the timeframe for 'high' and 'late' era is going to be changed.
1st era 1492-1536 ?
It ends too early. I think that 'high' era should start in 1572 - the massacre of Hugenots in Paris and next period of religious wars in Europe. This way we'll get the Dutch in 'high'.
2nd era 1536-1648 Wars of Religion
Rather the Religious Wars or the Religious Turmoil.
3rd era 1648-1700 The Sun King's Ambition (Louis XIV against more or less everybody else)
Good idea
wilpuri
I really hope that this mod gets done I have been itching for a pike & musket mod for ages
So do I.
Hakkapeliitta Cavalry
I modified the description, because it's too long. Additional info, like about the reforms of the army could be added to faction descriptions from 'choose your faction campaign panel'.
EVERYONE - The descriptions should be no longer than 5 lines when written in Notepad. The unit panel description cuts anything too long.
So here it is:
Hakkapeliitta Cavalry
{Recruited from among the Finnish farmers and horse-owning peasants, these superb horsemen get their name from their fierce battle cry. The Hakkapeliitta Cavalry form an ill-disciplined, but fearsome unit. Their main weapon is their speed and their fierce, irresistible charge, where cold steel and horse alike serve as a weapon.}
Some stats would be irresistible charge, good against other cavalry, cause fear, and may be a bonus when attacking cavalry...
OK, irresistible charge, +1 bonus to attack enemy cavalry, fast, morale 5 (excellent). Fearcausing is a little too much for them, though - fear is too powerful to be used too often.
I've been wondering, how are you going to implement the swedish infantry companies, which comprised both musketeers and pikemen? The basic unit of the sweish infantry comprised of 72 musketeers and 54 pikemen.
Two different units, although probably different numbers.
During the reign of Gustav Adolf II, Swedish artillery was the most effiecient artillery on the battle field.
It is possible to add 'Swedish cannons' or something similar, but I'm not sure.
SwordsMaster
1st- what map are you gonna use? We will have to add more provs for sure, but to do that we will have to remove existing ones, am I right?
I'm going to wait for next WesW's MedMod map and NTW new map to decide. Or even someone is going make something for this mod actually, I'm not sure though.
For now the old MTW map will be used, although I'll remove the sill 'landbridges' and add two ( Finland-Sweden and Crimea-Moldavia), but now I still don't know how to do this.
So my suggestion is to call Tercio an army when that army grows to 800 men. So for instance, the Tercio of Navarre would be a unit of more than 800 men if the last unit added to the stack to reach the 800 was from Navarre.
Only units can be called, not armies - as far as I know.
It isnt too descriptive, but it might be helpful. The picture is done in the XVII cent by the spanish royal painter Velazquez.
I like Velasquez, and I think the painting can be used itn the mod.
TheSilverKnight
I think you should extend the campaign to go to 1715 (death of Louis XIV, and the signing of the treaties which ended the War of Spanish Succession), just to make it more accurate.
Too complicated, too many new units, most from the NTW.
Trax
The Franch introduced the bayonet around 1680, I think it gave them great advantage, so in the mod we should have at least some grenadier (elite) units with the best and most modern equipment (flintlock muskets and bayonets).
It is possible to add one or two units if I find place for adequate ProjectileStats though.
SwordsMaster
hmm yeah...google translates polish?
Well... I once tried, just for fun if nothing else. And Lord of the Rings was translated as Master of the Bells - quite unexpected don't You agree.
REVISED TIMEFRAME - what do You think ?
'early' 1480 ( abstract date) - 1572 - Age of Exploration;
'high' 1572 - 1648 - The Religious Turmoil;
'late' 1648 - 1700 - The Sun King's Ambition;
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GreetingsQuote:
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1. Yes, quite large. I'm sending it once again, though.
2. Tartars won't be able to build this building.
Probably only level 1 armourer will be included in the mod.
Hetman http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...ons/cheers.gif
More units. I think we are going to have more Spanish and Polish units than everyone else's alltogether http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...ns/biggrin.gif
Wallons were “allied troops” in the spanish army, when Spanish were “elite” the Wallons and germans and Italians were the more common soldiers. They fought in the same way as spanyards as long as organization was concerned, but they didn’t have that “national desperation” that made Spanish soldiers so feared in Europe.
(Hey, it looks good even for a unit description)
Wallon corselet:
Same as Spanish size.
Non disciplined
Slow
Good morale
5 m pike and sword (same as Spanish)
charge 2
attack 3
defence 6
armour 5 (the king didn’t spend so much money on their protection…)
available in Spanish Netherlands + Spanish HRE (maybe also Milan, not too sure tho)
Wallon pikeman
Same stats as swiss pikeman from vanilla MTW (NOT Swiss armoured pikeman)
Wallon musketeer/harquebusier
Same stats as Spanish, but not disciplined, 1 point less morale, and 1 less in defence and charge. -1 attack
Italian “allied armies” Available in Naples, Sicily, Lombardy
Same stats as for Wallons, except:
Corselet : +1 charge, -1 attack, +1 morale, -1 defence
Pikeman: same as wallon, +1 charge, +1 morale.
Musketeers: same as Wallon, +1 morale, +1 attack
Hope it helps….
I’ll try to post some more pics if I can get them.I cant post pics from my PC, and I have no webpage, so its gonna be hard…….
10 bullets but slow reload.Quote:
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The computer used Battlefiled ninjas in STW with no prob... Only that the default setting should have the fire at will turned off.Quote:
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Not all the troops, only the ones labelled spanishQuote:
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Ok, I had another Idea (dangerous thing http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...gc-builder.gif )Quote:
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Give the spanish 3 titles of maestre de campo +2 command, +1 loyalty all three. That would more-less reflect the 3 main spanish tercios. The titles should not be dependent on provs, and they should be available from the beginning of high era for free.
BTW, the timeframe looks good.
And yeah, google learned english with Master Yoda (from Starwars)...hmmm... or maybe Master Yoda programmed google... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif scary isnt it? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg.../gc-jester.gif
I'll send you a pic of flags in the evening.
just in case: my email addresses:
atorres@tcd.ie or
warriorzutd@hotmail.com (yup, this one is stupid http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...s/bigthumb.gif )
Don't forget the Dutch, people They absolutely should have a faction, if only to make all us from the Netherlands happy.
For Dutch units, I suggest Wallon-type infantry, and heavier dependance on German troops (thats what they used, german mercs, and homemade troops based on spanish models) the only thing that should be added is give them higher chances of getting good gens. And lower the ship production costs.Quote:
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BTW, Spanish fleet should be 1.5 times more expensive than everyone else's. All spanish development was orientated towards land combat. The only ship that should be cheap for spain is the Galley.
@EC
Your pictures about polish Pancerny is wrong, both screns shows officers husaria`s.
Those are the paintings of Pancerni:Quote:
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Pancerny by Brandt
http://www.kismeta.com/diGrasse/imag...na%20koniu.jpg
Rotmistrz Pancerny by Juliusz Kossak
http://www.pinakoteka.zascianek.pl/K...z_pancerny.jpg
This is a painting of a rotmistrz, so not a regular pancerny, but their commander - that's why the elaborate equippment of both rider and his steed.
If I'm wrong, it's only because these fine hisorical painters were wrong before me.
If you wish, I can provide more pictures of Pancerni, all of which present fairly the same representation of that type of soldier.
But if you still claim those pictures are wrong, why don't you provide the appropriate ones.
Regards,
EC
SwordsMaster
Another suggestion is for Cossacks ( Nomad gave me the idea, ) Is cossacks horse archers.
I'm sure there will be such unit. BTW the game isn't very historically accurate at that time Cossack cavalry was rather poor, it was the infantry which was really dangerous.
Only Russian Don Cossacks were quite good.
I remember seeing in a cossack museum in Zaporozhye, 3 meter bows fired from horseback
Are You sure... 3 meter long bows ?
Eastside Character
I actually enjoy doing graphic work of that kind, so if you ever needed sth like this to be done, you can let me know, Hetman.
Please try to find more paintings if You can, I mean all nations.
BTW do You remember old boardgames ( Dragon range) - in Grunwald, Wiedeń or Kircholm there were very good pictures for unit icons, really good for the mod.
Trax
Well, if there is some problems with the protestant religion at the moment, why not concentrate on the first era first, so there no Protestants around yet?
The idea is to start with the protestant religion, why - this way it is possible to recreate the Protestant religion spreading out in 'early' and the Jesuits trying to counter this in 'high'.
I know it is not very accurate, but the problem is that a turn = one year, so the game isn't going to be realistic enough, anyway.
Second. I don't think it is possible to change faction's religion without renaming it, creating different faction ( e.g. Protestant English).
NEWS
First. We have Duke John's permission to use his graphs in this mod.
SECOND. I believe I've found the way how to implement Protestant religion in the game
Because there are only 2 orthodox factions ( Russia and Ukraine- Cossack rebells) why not make these factions PAGAN.
Of course it is necessary to rename Pagan religion to Orthodox and change the icon, but it seems to be quite easy.
Next step is to re-name the Orthodox religion into Protestant and change the adequate icon for it.
Why it the best solution ? Because, as far as I know, faction religion is connected to faction behaviour ( i.e. Orthodox Expansionist, Ortodox Defensive and so on), so it seems better to change some factions into Orthodox than Pagan, which would mean that every single Protestant cauntry would be Barbarian Raider ( The only Pagan faction behaviour).
When it comes to Russia and Ukraine I think we could easily change these into Barbarian Raider factions and still this should work quite well.
Of course this means serious changes for existing units, agents and buildings, but it seems to be the easiest possible solution.
Finally it is possible to modify current religion names, because it was done in Hellenic Total War and not only.
Regards Cegorach/Hetman http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...ons/cheers.gif
hmmm... I think ive seen shorter than yearly turns in some mod, NTW, possibly.
I´ll write a more detailed post later.
Here I am http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...icons/wave.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...ons/ht_bow.gifQuote:
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Yes, the word Vityaz is more suitable for medieval times. It's not official name of any types of troops. It's rather idiomatic expression meaning brave knight.Quote:
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Cossacks could use bows in 16-17 cent. It was widespread weapon in Russian army in 16 cent. But I'm not sure that it was main weapon of cossacks. And I think that bows became antediluvian in 17 century.Quote:
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Cossacks are cavalrymen. They lived in steppes, they had to fight with Tatars, so that's why they are cavalrymen first of all Their infantry was just auxiliary troops, gathered from very poor cossack (they were enable to get horse). Of course, in some cases cossack had to fight dismounted.Quote:
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Cossacks must be cavalry unit with option to dismount them before battle.
And there were no big differences between Zaporozhian and Don cossacs in 16-17 cent.
*points up to Dead moroz post* hes quite right.
Except for a couple of things: Cossacks still used bows during Peter the Great campaigns against the Swedes, and even during Napoleonic wars.
Im sure I have seen 3 meter long bows in that museum.What Im not quite sure about is if the bows were used by cossacks or tartars coz its been 12 years since the last time ive been to Zaporozhye. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...c-confused.gif
Another thing about the cossacks is that they DID have infantry (mostly for siege or defensive purposes), and they even had artillery, but they were famous for their cavalry.
Check out this link, it is in polish, so my understanding of it is quite limited.
this link
It seems a good review of military tactics in the XV,XVI, XVII cent with pics of units, which is always good.
The cossack armored train that seems to be so controversial worked in the following way:
all the baggage carts were positioned in a circle, the cossacks(dismounted) laid under the carts shooting continuously (the guys behind them reloaded theyr rifles (they had about 3 rifles per cossack, so the speed of the shooting was incredible at the time) (the americans adopted the same style of defence in open field during the american civli war, 200 years later)).
Apart from that, more men (cavalry) charged from the flanks to the enemy after they were disorganized by the shooters.
Well, i dont know if that is understandable, but hope it helps.
thats another link to a spanish tercios page.There are some pics of helmets, flags and officer armours, also some pics of harquebusier and corselet. The flag we should use IMO is the one with the white background and red cross. It will be historically accurate and not too pretencious.
1 question: can u make different flags for different units?
something like, one flag for cavalry guards, and a different one for normal cavalry...
Sapnish tercios page
PS. The way I see it Russia wasnt aggressive at all until the 18th century, so I dont know if Barbarian Raider is a good choice for them....
PPS. Hetman, just got your email at the hotmail address.
So, that's the info about Russian army in 16-17 centuries. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...s/gc-book2.gif
Cavalry
There were about 4 types of cavalry units in Russian army that time.
1. Noble cavalry. It was close to Polish pancerny (not Czterej pancerni i pies). They wore helmet, chain mail, different types of armour protecting chest, and shield. The main weapon was sabre. In 16 century they could use bow.
http://www.ruslan-com.ru/zotov/uniform1.jpg
You can also find them in these two pics:
http://vs1969r.narod.ru/Frend/Istor/ist26.jpg
http://art-rus.narod.ru/gal6/21-12.jpg
2. Common Russian cavalry. Our historians calls it Pomestnaya Kavaleriya. It means cavalry of estate owners. It was composed from people who get land for their service in army.
http://www.ruslan-com.ru/zotov/uniform2.jpg http://blin.exler.ru/articles/estoniatravel/0202.gif
3. Cossacks. It was light cavalry of people lived on borders of Russia (Ukraine, Don basin, Yaik (Ural) basin, Siberia, Northern Caucasus, etc.).
You can make 2 types of cossacks in the mod.
a) Zaporozhian Cossacks. They are well represented in the game Cossacks.
http://www.cossacks.de/english/encyc...ack_stcher.gif http://www.cossacks.de/english/encyc...eg_cossack.gif http://www.cossacks.de/english/encyc...ine_hetman.gif
b) Regular Cossacks (Russia only). Cossack from different outskirts of Russia. That's the pic of Ural Cossack (18 cent., but almost the same with 17 cent.).
http://www.voskres.ru/army/library/images/ural-kz.jpg http://www.cossacks.de/english/encyc...on_cossack.gif
4. Mercenary Tatar cavalry. The light cavalry armed with bows (like in game Cossacks).
http://www.cossacks.de/english/encyc...rkey_tatar.gif
Infantry
The main type of infantry was Streltsy. It was first Russian regular troops organized in 16 cent. They were riflemen (not sure if they had harquebus or musket in 17 cent.; I will check it later). They also had halberd used like pedestal for rifle while shooting and as weapon in hand-to-hand combat.
There was also some number of mounted streltsy.
http://www.warclub.enjoy.ru/gallery/...ier/med_01.jpg http://www.warclub.enjoy.ru/gallery/...ier/med_02.jpg http://www.warclub.enjoy.ru/gallery/...ier/med_03.jpg http://www.warclub.enjoy.ru/gallery/...ier/med_04.jpg
Town and countryside population could organize militia during wars. Their armour and weapons were different.
Cossack also had some number of infantry.
This is pic where Siberian cossacks fights with Tatars:
http://vs1969r.narod.ru/Frend/Istor/ist24.jpg
You can also create small detachment (about 20-60 units) of Russian royal bodyguards (Ryndas).
http://www.ruslan-com.ru/zotov/uniform3.jpg
In 17 cent. Russian government organized small number of troops armed in Western European style. There were dragoons, riders, spearmen and musketmen. But they were trained worse then western troops.
You can find them in this pic:
http://vs1969r.narod.ru/Frend/Istor/ist25.jpg
So, that's all for today. Let me know if I can help you some more. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...icons/wave.gif
Actually Russia was agressive from the beginning ( XVth century) of Muscovy state.Quote:
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The border between Poland-Lithuania and Russia was in an endless state of war almost till the destruction of Poland ( XVIIIth century).
Though, You are right they were not agressive enough to be rated very dangerous or powerful till Peter the Great.
Check Your e-mail for details.
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Ellesthyan
Don't forget the Dutch, people They absolutely should have a faction, if only to make all us from the Netherlands happy.
Sorry. I do mean to add them from 'high'.
SwordsMaster
they should be available from the beginning of high era for free.
Not possible. Why ? Because the number of titles is restricted to all these connected to certain buildings.
BTW, Spanish fleet should be 1.5 times more expensive than everyone else's. All spanish development was orientated towards land combat. The only ship that should be cheap for spain is the Galley.
I'm not sure it is possible. Probably only if we add a number of Spanish ships and for Spain only. The second is easier, granting a faction adventage for Spain should solve the problem.
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Agreed. Russia was aggressive state since IX century (the time of Rurik).Quote:
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But we was not not agressive enough till Peter. We just had no luck in wars with our western neighbors. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...ons/tongue.gif
Couldnt it be possible to add those 3 titles to...say...the Military academy or something?Quote:
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Or alternatively, just change some royal councelor titles to Maestre de Campo (at least 1 of them).
Couldnt you have some sort of faction disadvantage as well? and rise the costs of all other ships....
Ok, agree to Barbarian Raider for russians,then, but im still not convinced that that depicted the situation really well....
Maybe you could PM one of the Lordz to ask if there is a way of making shorter turns....
BTW do You know anything about 'hulajgorods' - the big 'siege towers' with small cannons the Russian army was using at that time?Quote:
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hmm...read some of the material you sent me, and my conclusions are:
-Cavalry was polish spearhead, well trained, heavily armoured, etc..
-Cavalry was a shock troop, not well suited for defence.
-They couldnt fight effectively a musket-heavy army, specially if not in open field.
-they relied heavily in infantry to clear the way for the heavies. That leads to the thinking that the cavalry charged troops already disorganized and softened by artillery and infantry.
-the poles had a good sapping ability (that reminds me of Rome: TW somehow) and were able to build good fortifications in short time. (so maybe you could lower the costs of the first 2 levels of forts for the Poles)
-Cossacks were really good at fighting Tartars ans Ottomans. The Hussars were only used for defence against those foes.
Am I mistaken?
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You can read about Gulay-Gorods here.Quote:
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Gulay-Gorod (better to write gulyay-gorod) can be translated as walking town.
For the first time they was used by Russians in 1530 during campaign against Kazanian Tatars.
Gulay-Gorods has been used in sieges until the beginning of 17 century.
http://www.ruslan-com.ru/zotov/gulay-gorod1.gif
http://www.ruslan-com.ru/zotov/gulay-gorod2.gif
Then I'll be making those info pictures.Quote:
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A request to all and any who can provide appropriate pictures/paintings links, that can be used for making those info pics:
Send me a PM with links to such pictures, so I won't have to search for everythings myself (as many of you know your national units much better than I do).
Those pictures which are posted in this thread, you obviously don't have to provide again.
Dead Moroz
Great pictures http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...-2thumbsup.gif Could you find more for cassack cavalry and other eastern units? Those you've already posted - I'm making info pics for them just right now.
Regards,
EC
@eastside character:
look in the links I posted already.Most of them have pics.
Anyways, I'll try get some more detailed ones.
cannon
apic of a spanish cannon in the middle of the battle.
Not too clear, but hope its usable
@EC
it`s polish pancerny, those was oficers husaria and pancerny, first for sure husaria`s :-)) http://www.kawaleria-polska.pl/portal_new/marek/3.jpg
Armour weight ab. 11,5kg
http://public.srce.hr/husar/Polish%2...rny%201683.jpg
LOL, dunno about their capacity as cavalrymen, but the one on the pic surely drank lots of beer.... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...ons/cheers.gif
BTW, forgot to say, that for the Ottomans, the galleys should also be cheaper, as for the spanish.
http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...s/rolleyes.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by [b
I've tried to change years to quarters. But you can't, apparently it hardcoded. At least I was told on this forum it wasn't possible. But you can set the counter to what ever you like of course.
http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...icons/wave.gif
p.s Intresting stuff about the Vityez.
SwordsMaster
hmmm... I think ive seen shorter than yearly turns in some mod, NTW, possibly.
I'm quite sure it is impossible to change it. The shortest ( and longest) turn = one year.
Dead Moroz
Cossacks are cavalrymen. They lived in steppes, they had to fight with Tatars, so that's why they are cavalrymen first of all
YOU are right, my mistake. My statement was because comparing to Polish cavalry the Cossacks were rather poor horsemen - of course I do mean Polish professional soldiers.
It was said that 100 Poles easily defeat 1000 Cossack cavalry, but 100 Cossacks protected with wagons can defend vs. 1000 Poles - a French envoy witnessing battles between Poles and Cossacks.
At that time Cossack ( Zaporohian) infantry in wagons was very hard to break and many times Poles used this infantry if possible because of its very high quality - for example at Chocim in 1621, when Polish-Cossacks army defeated Ottoman invasion forces.
During the Chmielnicki's Revolt most of early Cossack victories were due to Cossack-Tatar ( tough infantry and agile cavalry) alliance and lack of good commanders ( at that time) in the Polish army, not because Cossack cavalry was so good.
SwordsMaster
but they were famous for their cavalry.
Yes, but from XVIII or even XIXth century.
1 question: can u make different flags for different units?
something like, one flag for cavalry guards, and a different one for normal cavalry...
A faction can use only one flag, unfortunatelly.
Dead Moroz
(not Czterej pancerni i pies)
Oh, I liked this tv series when I was 6-9 years old, even it was 'historically accurate' almost as 'XENA'. What a joy it was
You can also create small detachment (about 20-60 units) of Russian royal bodyguards (Ryndas).
Infantry or cavalry, and what type ?
We just had no luck in wars with our western neighbors.
Except the Swedish invasion of Poland in 1655, which changed the balance of power in Eastern Europe enough to allow Russia to conquer Ukraine, I belive.
SwordsMaster
Couldnt it be possible to add those 3 titles to...say...the Military academy or something?
No additional titles can be added. We'll have to choose one of the existing ones to change if possible.
Couldnt you have some sort of faction disadvantage as well? and rise the costs of all other ships....
Only faction advantage can be granted ( smaller cost).
Ok, agree to Barbarian Raider for russians,then, but im still not convinced that that depicted the situation really well....
I believe it's quite justified, especially in later years of the reign of Ivan IV the Terrible.
Just few examples - after Polish-Lithuanian political union ( 1569) Ivan was so angry that after he had learnt about some boyar nobles from Novogrod are going to betray him ( or he just thought they are going to do this) he ordered them and THE WHOLE city to be destroyed i.e. thousands of people were tortured and killed.
Second when Russian army invaded Poland in 1654 one of the armies conquered almost whole Lithuania and it's biggest city Vilna. The army looted and burned the town ( it was burning for three days ), after the city was recaptured the Russian commander was found guilty of 'war crimes' and executed ( one of the earliest war crime sentence).
Finally as far as I remember between XVIth and XXth century Russia was conquering about 10 square
kilometers A DAY - probably the number should be higher, though.
So, Yes Russia was agressive, and from time to time this was really a 'barbarian rider' - especially during the later years of Ivan the Terrible reign, who was a real madman.
FACTIONS - probably the final proposal,
= the same=
Poland=
Hungary - Transylvania - replaces Hungary in 'high' and 'late';
Spain=
France=
Venetia - replaces Italian;
England=
Danes=
Russia=
Ottoman - replaces Turkish;
Crimean Tatar - replaces Almohad, 'early' only;
Austria or Hapsburg HRE - replaces German HRE;
Burgundy - replaced with United Provinces ( Dutch) in 'high' and 'late';
Sweden - replaces Novgorod;
Portugal - replaces Aragon;
Ukraine - replaces Byzantine in 'late';
Egypt - only in 'early';
The Knights of St. John - replaces Sicilian;
Pope - not playable;
Swiss=
additional factions - not in the first release, though;
Saxony
Scotland
Navarre
Florence
Genoa
Brandenburg
Persia - only in case of map changes;
GENERALLY - 26 factions, 25 playable;
Regards Cegorach/Hetman
PS I've tried modified Husaria already. I think it is possible to make this unit almost as the same as in reality.
Plese try this link - really much info. about polish armyQuote:
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There is more info especially about Husaria attacking Tatars.
Answer. Infantry was really important to help cavalry, but the 'softening' was done by quite small units e.g. Klushino 1610 - there were about 200 - 300 infantrymen agains 5000 Swedes and 30 000 Russians, their main task was to demolish some fences and buildings were the Swedes were waiting.
http://www.jasinski.co.uk/wojna/index.htm
Hetman http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...ons/cheers.gif
Ok, then I have two questions:Quote:
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1- Are we going to implement a general unit?
2- If yes, then just call the spanish general unit Maestre de Campo.
The Maestre de Campo had a guard of 8 heavily armed and armoured halberdiers that received really good salaries, so they fought to death.
You are right, but that included the expansion to the east, which is out of our scope. They did not conquer that much en europe tho, until the XVIII cent.Quote:
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Thats a pity. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...cons/frown.gifQuote:
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About factions: Include NAvarre in early, but not in High or Late.They had some privileges, but they paid taxes and soldiers to the spanish king as everyone else.
Instead, include Genoa in High, coz those guys substituted the Spanish as the first naval power in the mediterranean in around 1620.
The pope should only hold Rome. BTW, the Spanish landsknechts (emperor Charles´ landsknechts) looted Rome in 1547(?) not too sure about the date.
So the pope was very careful when it came to Spain.He said nothing when Spain fought France.